Why US Trucks have a "Nose" (and European ones don't)

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  • @MatthiasSchwarzerEnglish
    @MatthiasSchwarzerEnglish  8 місяців тому +3

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    • @robsx4280
      @robsx4280 8 місяців тому

      I have watched 2 of them, will check out slow cars in Sweden next😉

    • @TimothySielbeck
      @TimothySielbeck 8 місяців тому

      One truck manufacturer used to make cab-overs in the US. I think every truck driver in the '60s and '70s just wanted to drive a Peterbilt which many considered the "Cadillac" of the trucks of the day.

    • @joemcallister6677
      @joemcallister6677 2 місяці тому

      Where is the road featured at 9min 30 sec please. It looks amazing.

    • @bruceh4180
      @bruceh4180 2 місяці тому

      Staying out of the "which is better" debate, the one thing I'd add is delivery locations / roads. The size of the USA roads and the actual delivery locations are far different.

  • @SebastianD334
    @SebastianD334 5 місяців тому +36

    Another huge factor is maneuverability vs stability
    In europe, the shorter wheelbase of a cabover is very helpful around turns and especially when backing up, in the US the roads are much wider with wider turns, allowing the longer wheelbase to work and even being advantageous on long distances, since it’s more stable.

    • @robbieoorschot6816
      @robbieoorschot6816 3 місяці тому +3

      The steering system of an American truck can not turn very sharp in compare to a European truck.

    • @evacody1249
      @evacody1249 Місяць тому

      Well that's just how the US and Canada are. We have a lot of land and wide roads.

  • @AHVENAN
    @AHVENAN 8 місяців тому +48

    Im pretty sure there isn't any rule that actually says you can pass on the right in the US, they are supposed to follow the same lane discipline as here in Europe, they just either don't know they are or they don't care, I've heard lots of americans complaining about the lack of lane-discipline on US highways

    • @davidc.w.2908
      @davidc.w.2908 6 місяців тому +13

      There is zero lane discipline in the USA! Overtaking on the right is NOT allowed in any state, but since almost everyone does it, it’s hard to enforce on just that, so police picks the drivers who also speed for example. Drivers passing on the shoulders - left and right shoulders -, passing on an exit ramp, passing on the shoulder and continuing to the next on ramp to get back into traffic, and passing over solid double white or yellow lines leads to many major accidents.
      While most Americans think or assume that cabover trucks are less fuel efficient, it all has mainly to do with maintenance. European roads are better maintained and not many trucks drive internationally. The USA has many over the road truck drivers, who drive all 48 lower states and often Canada and sometimes Mexico. The roads are of inferior quality and often have potholes. The long distances over bad roads leads to many instances where maintenance is required. Often that maintenance cannot be performed at the terminal of the truck company and so in this case time is double money, because if you need maintenance you can’t drive and you have to pay for the hours of service performed by third parties. The faster you’re back on the road the better, also to limit the cost you have to pay for that maintenance.
      Second reason to use conventional truck over cabovers, is comfort. The longer wheelbase of the conventional truck makes driving, especially long distances, more comfortable. The problem here is that American manufacturers (who are often owned by European companies) invest less in technology and advancement and so this is no longer true.
      My truck is a new 2024 model Freightliner Cascadia and uses more fuel per mile than any European cabover truck uses, even when I’m driving at European speed limits.

    • @ivanlandry3830
      @ivanlandry3830 2 місяці тому +1

      Correct. It has really become an issue in the last 20 years. Didn't used to be this way.

    • @tsjeriAu
      @tsjeriAu 2 місяці тому +3

      I will regularly "pass" on the right here in Europe on highways, vast majority of the time it's people driving slow in the left lane and I just keep my cruise control on and pass them at the speed limit. Technically illegal, yes, but as are they from being in the left lane and going slow. They should be in the right(most) lane.

    • @yoochem
      @yoochem 2 місяці тому

      @@davidc.w.2908 interesting comment; I also used to think that overtaking on the right was legal in the US!

    • @Sgt_SealCluber
      @Sgt_SealCluber 2 місяці тому +1

      @@yoochem It is legal to pass on the right (Washington state law as the first example I found):
      "(1) The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass upon the right of another vehicle only under the following conditions:
      (a) When the vehicle overtaken is making or about to make a left turn;
      (b) Upon a roadway with unobstructed pavement of sufficient width for two or more lines of vehicles moving lawfully in the direction being traveled by the overtaking vehicle."

  • @mundotaku_org
    @mundotaku_org 8 місяців тому +6

    Short cabs were popular in the 70s and 80s.

  • @sprague49
    @sprague49 8 місяців тому +10

    Impressive research!

  • @jinxyle
    @jinxyle 2 місяці тому +4

    you would think this channel would have like 2mil subs from this vid. great job man

  • @robertcabrera6232
    @robertcabrera6232 8 місяців тому +15

    When I first began in the freight business, here in the US, in 1980, cabovers were the majority of long-haul tractors, and quite normal. This was because, like Germany, there were strict length restrictions on the combination of tractors and trailers on our interstate highways. Then when Ronald Reagan became President, his administration eliminated the overall length restriction and instead regulated only trailer size. Trailers that had been 48 feet in length were allowed to grow to 53 feet and were widened as well. Also smaller 28 foot "pup" trailers were allowed to be combined in tandem throughout the country, when previously they were only allowed west of the Mississippi. The driving force behind the increase in tractor size and the change from cabover to "conventional" was fuel economy and ease of repair. Even routine maintenance is more expensive in a cabover design where the entire cab is hinged and there is little room to work. And even small gains in fuel economy can add up quickly when truckers are having to drive the great distances they do here in the States.

  • @Alby_Torino
    @Alby_Torino 3 місяці тому +10

    Sorry but it's a little bi too focused on Germany. Fiat started to build trucks in 1903 and from 1939 all its trucks were cab over. No "nose truck" since 1939 regardless German laws on tuck length.

    • @offichannelnurnberg5894
      @offichannelnurnberg5894 Місяць тому +1

      I mean listen to that guy it's obvious where he comes from. So I don't blame him for making videos of his homecountry.

    • @Alby_Torino
      @Alby_Torino Місяць тому +1

      @@offichannelnurnberg5894 Well, not exactly. I know he's German. Basically, though, what he's saying is that Europe has cab over trucks because the German industry imposed this as a standard. It didn't happen.

  • @jackjoyce1744
    @jackjoyce1744 6 місяців тому +10

    In Russia both types of trucks are used because they don’t limit the length the tractor unit, only the trailer.

  • @valdemarzock9617
    @valdemarzock9617 Місяць тому +2

    shocking they dont have scania trucks

  • @richard-riku
    @richard-riku 2 місяці тому +1

    I like the video but I think that German might have the same word for safety as for security, which explains the mention of the nose truck having better "security" related to visibility/collisions but that is "safety" in English and not security.
    security: related to crimes like theft. safety: related to personal injury. eg seat belts are for safety but nothing to do with security. good visibility is mostly about safety (unless you count being able to see robbers creeping up close to the truck who are about to hijack it).

    • @littlekishmish
      @littlekishmish 2 місяці тому +2

      @@richard-riku good catch! Yes, we use the same word, “Sicherheit” to refer to both safety and security.

    • @kuchenblechmafiagmbh1381
      @kuchenblechmafiagmbh1381 Місяць тому

      Exactly, in return we have words with two meanings like "Schlampe, schlampig", one meaning of that is "slut, slutty" and the other is for a messy person (due to that we often use "Messie" even if the person doesn't have hoarding disorder).

  • @williamgibson6429
    @williamgibson6429 8 місяців тому +1

    Great job!

  • @robsx4280
    @robsx4280 8 місяців тому +1

    Really interesting thank you 👍

  • @skylark.kraken
    @skylark.kraken 8 місяців тому +1

    In the UK, lorries/trucks needing to go by ferry to continental Europe et vice versa, is also a factor for snub nosed trucks. Not a huge factor or anything, it'd just be more expensive, and this also doesn't include ferries that only transport the trailers, just a small influence.

  • @denzzlinga
    @denzzlinga 4 місяці тому +1

    I never realized it´s that divided by today. When i grew up in the 90s, it was still mixed, there were a few bonneted trucks in europe too, mainly made by Scania and Volvo and some old MAN, and the us was still manufacturing a few cabovers, Kenworth, International, Freightliner.

    • @grahamlive
      @grahamlive Місяць тому +1

      Yeah, they still exist in Europe today but exremely rare. Especially where I am in the UK. I'll see one maybe once or twice a month.

    • @denzzlinga
      @denzzlinga Місяць тому

      @@grahamlive probably because they are that old now, like Scania 4 series, at least 20 years.

  • @Diwasho
    @Diwasho 2 місяці тому +4

    School buses in US also typically come with a nose but not the regular transit buses and coaches, and in Europe hooded buses are pretty much non-existent entirely. Wonder why that is.

    • @Lilian040210
      @Lilian040210 2 місяці тому +3

      I suppose being shorter, more maneuverable, and allowing better visibility in front is preferable for a bus. As they have to work in the city, as opposed to trucks that usually kept out of city

    • @Leptospirosi
      @Leptospirosi 2 місяці тому

      Sitting on the front wheel, with as little protrusion as possible in the front, allows for better perception of the limits of the coach and less blindspots.
      For a semi trail it also allows for tighter turns, which is not the case for a Coach.
      As Coaches have a limit in the permitted length, removing the bonnet allows for more living space inside.

  • @jeorgedavid3239
    @jeorgedavid3239 8 місяців тому +5

    As a American truck driver i miss driving a cabover truck i got into trucking in 1988

  • @bgezal
    @bgezal 2 місяці тому +3

    Cabover sleeper trucks are a thing both in EU and US.

    • @grahamlive
      @grahamlive Місяць тому

      True. Very prevelant in Europe. I practically lived in one for 10 years.

  • @dlewis9760
    @dlewis9760 2 місяці тому +11

    Cab overs and loose items inside are a load of laughs in the repair shop. Time is money. Whose paying for tracking down pens, pencils, laptops, clothes, shoes, jackets, food.......to keep it all off the windshield when the cab is tilted forward?

    • @grahamlive
      @grahamlive Місяць тому +1

      As long as the item isn't heavy enough to break the windscreen then what does it matter? But it is just part of procedure when tilting a cab to check for loose
      items that may cause damage. It takes seconds.

  • @joshausterlitz3798
    @joshausterlitz3798 2 місяці тому +1

    Anyone correct me if i'm wrong here, but i remember back in the late 80s when i got into trucking, cabovers were vastly disappearing because of length requirements, alot of states require (Florida i know) that the tractor has to be a certain length to drive there. When i had a cabover, i was told i couldn't go to Florida or certain north eastern states. I started working for a company in 92 and they had no cabovers so they could go everywhere. If there was a length requirement, no reason to have cabedover tractors as they were higher and harder to repair. We also have weight distribution rules where each axle has to be equal to each other or have spread axles to meet the length requirement to weight, those short cabs with a single drive axle would all be illegal here. This makes me wonder about the new Nikola cabover trucks that have so much space between the cab and trailer because of those requirements and why not just go with what Tesla is doing or just make a normal nosed tractor.

  • @henrytsai590
    @henrytsai590 5 місяців тому +5

    The US is a vast country to delivery, trucks need to travel long distance and the driver need to execute multiple days of driving on the trip, so driving comfort is one issue. The federal regulation allows long tracker wheelbase, since the roads are long and wide enough. So sharp turns on the mountains.

    • @robbieoorschot6816
      @robbieoorschot6816 3 місяці тому +2

      There is more driving comfort in a European, than in a American.

  • @smol_yote
    @smol_yote 2 місяці тому

    The biggest thing with why American trucks went to long long hoods is weight and length restrictions. When combined truck length rules switched to trailer length rules it allows truck owners to get long hoods that are easier to service and are safer in a crash.
    As for why we still use them today, most of American trucking is corporate owned, and most “owner operators” are people suckered into a lease program, those people don’t really get to choose their truck.
    Corporations likes long hoods because of easier maintenance, it’s a proven design, weight distribution over longer wheel bases, and the major truck manufactures don’t don’t sell a class 8 cab over.
    It’s a chicken and egg problem, 99% of companies don’t buy them, all of the manufactures don’t make them. Rinse and repeat

  • @antioch4019
    @antioch4019 5 місяців тому +3

    I think if we had the same distances between urban areas and Euro truckers lived in their truck as much as american truckers it could hasten any change to long nosed trucks. But because Europe is so densly populated and urbanised compared to the US there is almost always a truckstop, motel or equivalent available to them. A long-haul trucker I know says he sleeps in his truck maybe 2-3 times per year, for most nights he sleeps in a motel/truckstop. With such low frequency you can deal with the smaller cabover. Also smaller roads in many countries so a long nosed truck could actually be unviable as the turn radius is attrocious.
    One thing you didn't mention in this video but is another fun fact difference betwen US/Euro trucks is engine size and power. Volvo and Scania dominates the high power engines, but even if Volvo offers trucks in the US they don't offer the behemoth engines over there. It's simply because mostly US truckers has a lower weight limit and relative flat terrain so demand for stronger, more expensive and fuel hungry engines is very low. While f ex Sweden and Finland can go up to twice the US weight limit for a truck and have more challenging terrain wich would need those behemoth engines.

  • @KironManuelCards
    @KironManuelCards 2 місяці тому

    A good truck story

  • @robbieoorschot6816
    @robbieoorschot6816 3 місяці тому

    There where a lot of US trucks in Europ, mostly in Swiss du to the aloud low wheigt of trucks.
    In France you can find todday a lot of American trucks, mostly with a tanker on the fifth wheel.

  • @johncooper4637
    @johncooper4637 2 місяці тому +1

    One of the downsides to cab over trucks is the driver is closer to the accident.

    • @Jimmyxsx
      @Jimmyxsx 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes, and a lot of people overlook that aspect. Safety is my number one priority. Ive driven the scania and Mercedes semi trucks in Mexico and they are very very comfortable and very powerful but I just love my Kenworth t-800 (CATERPILLAR 3460 engine).

  • @JacobNascar
    @JacobNascar 8 місяців тому +1

    Just wait til you see what American Yard Mule trucks look like. Ive been driving one for the past 8 years.

  • @joemcallister6677
    @joemcallister6677 2 місяці тому

    Does anyone know which road is featured at approx 9.30 into the video? Thanks.

    • @bgezal
      @bgezal 2 місяці тому

      Europabrücke? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_Bridge

  • @garyjarvis2730
    @garyjarvis2730 8 місяців тому +2

    If you are traveling at 75 MPH on a US highway the long nose adds life saving "crush space" in case of an accident. The flat nose trucks in my opinion look way more modern but you are siting on the nose of an 80,000 pound arrow in the US market. Thanks for a nicely done video and an interesting topic.

    • @0KiwiStyles0
      @0KiwiStyles0 8 місяців тому +1

      What are you hitting like an arrow when you're sitting above it?

    • @atvheads
      @atvheads 8 місяців тому +2

      But the truck driver are sitting way up.
      And the common collision is between the truck and a car.

    • @kylesenior
      @kylesenior 8 місяців тому +1

      My understanding is that flat nose trucks have to pass the same safety standards. Those standards are much stricter in the EU.

    • @AHVENAN
      @AHVENAN 8 місяців тому +5

      You should watch some crash tests of Euro style trucks, yes they don't have the big crumple zone up front, but that has prompted the manufacturewrs to devlop some very impressive safety systems so you are alot safer than you might think up there

    • @benandolga
      @benandolga 3 місяці тому

      @@kyleseniornot true

  • @benandolga
    @benandolga 3 місяці тому +6

    Not so many people say that American bonneted trucks which claimed to be better are vey unsafe, dangerous on the road because of many blind spots, hard to maneuver and falsely claimed to be the best and more powerful! American trucks only the best for museum be the look like Harley Davidson outdated but endlessly praised for unique design!

  • @tarstarkusz
    @tarstarkusz 2 місяці тому +1

    A lot of US trucks are cabovers. A cabover is what you are describing as not existing in America.

  • @Chris-bs8qj
    @Chris-bs8qj 8 місяців тому +8

    Hands down Australia 🇦🇺 have the best trucks in the world

    • @PO_Lease
      @PO_Lease 2 місяці тому +1

      You wish 😂 European truct are better logically

    • @manikyum
      @manikyum Місяць тому

      Hands up Australian trucks are the worst in the world.

  • @Leptospirosi
    @Leptospirosi 2 місяці тому +6

    Flat nose tractors have the big advantage of having a tighter turning radius, which is important in Europe, where cities are human oriented rather the car oriented

  • @SangoProductions213
    @SangoProductions213 2 місяці тому +2

    14 minutes summarized in one word: Government.
    In more words: In order to make money on transport, the German government (who became the defacto EU government), decided they needed to knee cap their competition.

  • @buckyhollinger
    @buckyhollinger 8 місяців тому +1

    I always thought that the main reason was the tighter road geometry of European roads compared to N. America. N.A. tractors are longer, needing wider turning radii. The change from cabover to front engine allows for much better aerodynamics and more room in the cab for the sleeper.

    • @benandolga
      @benandolga 3 місяці тому

      But American trucks are more dangerous and too big!

  • @J0HnDq3
    @J0HnDq3 8 місяців тому

    wow, I must say, that this is a great video, my friend. Always don`t understand this difference. And now I see. Just stupid politics.

  • @johumm455
    @johumm455 8 місяців тому

    And a next video: why the heck is 60 km/stunde the max speed on german bundesstrasse ? for trucks...

    • @robbieoorschot6816
      @robbieoorschot6816 3 місяці тому

      In France its 70 on departmental roads, in Belgium its also 60 or 70 on N ways.

    • @nemlas85
      @nemlas85 2 місяці тому

      probably to reduce road maintenance costs

  • @jimmypockrus7725
    @jimmypockrus7725 8 місяців тому +1

    I answered before watching the entire video but I believe US trucks have a hood to be more aerodynamic allowing for driving faster and more efficiently

  • @stevekenilworth
    @stevekenilworth 8 місяців тому +1

    the scania T has nose just like usa trucks, but yes lot don't

    • @robbieoorschot6816
      @robbieoorschot6816 3 місяці тому

      They don't have it anymore, Vlastuin in Holland is building the T from normal cabines.

  • @OptimusShepherd
    @OptimusShepherd 2 місяці тому

    Peterbilt 379 in Europe lol

  • @robbieoorschot6816
    @robbieoorschot6816 3 місяці тому

    Iff you drive localy in the states you ar stoked in a COE tractor with just room to breaht !!!

  • @myotherchannel2729
    @myotherchannel2729 6 місяців тому

    Scania do lorries with noses, don't they?

    • @jackjoyce1744
      @jackjoyce1744 6 місяців тому

      Not anymore. They stopped the T series Scania in 2003.

  • @williamgibson6429
    @williamgibson6429 8 місяців тому +1

    It is my understanding that English actually came from someplace like Hamburg Germany. I forget which town it came from but how did that work out that the Germans taught English to the English and therefore that language eventually made its way to America so our language actually came from Germany. We know that the Scott’s talked whatever kind of gibberish they talked in the, Welsh had their language and the Irish had their language Gaelic but what did the English do to communicate with each other before the Germans taught him how to speak English this has been a very fascinating subject for me. Do you have any inside into this? I only have really American sources to turn to because I don’t travel to Germany, although I would love to I’d love to see the castle there and all that stuff and that’s the culinary and meat cutting center of the culinary and meat cutting arts. It’s also where they invented the trade guilds which is what made America very strong because instead of having idiots that didn’t know what they were doing that were masters of many trades. We ended up with people who were masters of their trade, and therefore able to produce many products that making us less vulnerable to war because we could produce our enemies and we all that to the Germans and the trade the trade guilds of Germany well anyway thank you you have enlighten me about European trucks and American trucks. I’ve often wondered what they were made that way specially, Volvo trucks seemless thought out anyway, have a great day and keep up the good work good Nobin

    • @merikblackmore
      @merikblackmore 8 місяців тому

      Old English emerged from the dialects and vocabulary of Germanic peoples, Angles, Saxons, and Jutes, who invaded & settled Britain in the 5th century CE after the Romans buggered off. This displaced Common Brittonic, which was the celtic language previously spoken there, and Latin. I imagine some pointy and blunt instruments were used to implement these changes. No gibberish languages have ever been spoken in the British Isles. If you want to follow the evolution of Old English to Modern English, or find out more about the Celtic languages spoken in Wales, Cornwall, Irland, Scotland & Brittany then search engines are there to help you. As an English speaker learning German, I am so very glad we got rid of masculine, feminine & neuter genders, those conjugations do my head in.
      The less said about the American war machine the better.

  • @anymancandoitwiththerightools
    @anymancandoitwiththerightools 8 місяців тому +1

    So.. it is not legal in every state to over take on the right. It's generally frowned upon across-the-board.
    Great video, tho!

  • @wilurbean
    @wilurbean 8 місяців тому

    They didn't give out licenses for noses, that's why.

  • @robbieoorschot6816
    @robbieoorschot6816 3 місяці тому

    German people afraid of big trucks, in almost every Norht European country and Spain, there ar aloud bigger and heavyer trucks. 60 metric tons and 25 meters long and in Sweden and Finland up to 90 metric tons and 33 meters long !!

    • @richard-riku
      @richard-riku 2 місяці тому +1

      I live in Finland and we do have those massively long trucks, but most main roads were built in the 60's or later so we don't have any narrow country roads like in many other European countries. Many roads are like you see in car commercials. Sweeping curves, no other traffic, just lakes and forest either side.

  • @davidb2885
    @davidb2885 2 місяці тому +1

    Sounds like the US have the better system.