Fixing The Cheapest Generator, starts but won't stay running.
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Thanks for watching. This generator was the cheapest one I could find at stores. Its not new but it doesn't have a lot of time on it. The problem is that it starts but i won't stay running when off choke. - Авто та транспорт
I had a similar problem, except mine would NOT start at all. This video made me a hero in my wife's eyes. Thank you for that!
no problem and you did all the work, so yes you are a hero!
Thank you for this tutorial! Cleaning out my carbuerator as you instructed worked like a charm for my generator, and in the process, I learned something new. Thank you Home Garage and thank you UA-cam!
Glad it helped
Thanks. I have this same problem. I'll be pulling my carb tomorrow. I have this one and a 5500W. I use the 5500W with my Hobart 140 MIG welder, so I'm running that one quite a bit. Once fixed, I'll run this one once a month(as I was before) using a vacuum when I clean my cars. Thanks for posting the video.
no problem and thanks for the comment
You did it!!! Pulled the carb and it was clogged. Also replaced the gas. Never had a 2-cycle carb with a bowl. Runs great now. I'll run it dry from now on. Thanks again.
no problem and thanks for the comment
Nice fix, I run my generators about every four months. Probably should do more, but I drain the carbs after every use.
excellent maintenance routine. Thank you Waterman one for the comment I appreciate it.
Exact same generator with exact same problem after only 2-3 hours of run time. Remove and clean out the jet and its back in business. Need to figure out how to fit a filter in fuel line. Thanks for the video, made the fix that much easier.
no problem and thank you b k
Just a quick tip. I've had other carb problems so what I did with the carb studs is I threaded on a nut and cut a screwdriver slot wit my Dremel cutoff wheel. Removing the nut cleans up the threads. Now I can remove the studs with just screwdriver.
I've done that, it's really does help
Great Video. Been working on the same type generator. First issue was cracked and dry rotted leaking fuel line. Then it would not stay running. Checked fuel shutoff valve for clogging, next will try this fix. Thanks for posting.
you're welcome and good luck with it!
Just did mine great instructions! Although I had to keep pausing the video to keep up with your speed it worked out for me . I even took off the gas tank dumped the gas out and put fresh gas in. I even looked through legit, and it was clogged up, but I thank you so much for the video!
I apologize for the speed, I tend to talk fast.
Thanks a lot for the video. Mine was doing the same thing and now it’s running normal again. I do need to run it at least once a month as indicated in the owners manual. Thanks again
no problem and thank you Juan Vega for stopping by.
Can't believe how small the air filter was. (if I owned it) After the warranty I would have modded it to a bigger one, you could see dirt coating the inside of the carb. Also would add an aftermarket inline fuel filter. Would recommend it to the customer cause I know people leave covers off of gas jugs all the time and dirt and dust blow in them. (I'm betting that was how the jet got clogged).
Thank you for another fine fun Video to watch
thank you Anime Red for the comment. Yes I'm sure it was due to cost cutting.
Soooo question, if you put a fuel filter inline with a 50:1, wouldn’t the oil block the filter?
@@martinwagnerproductions Hi, good question. Mine is not a two-cycle. It's a four-cycle and has oil in the base of the engine. Just straight gasoline
@@animered1986 Ya, I have those as well and run fuel filters, when you mentioned a gas filter for this one, which I have, all I could think of is the oil getting caught up in there lol.
@@martinwagnerproductions I was thinking about this. I see filters inside the chainsaw fuel tanks and I think if you just get a fine mesh inline filter. then there is no reason the 50to1 should ever clog it up and it would help keep any big debris out of the carburetor.
Love your videos man, you have really changed my mindset in repairing small engines. I have learned a lot from watching all your videos. Well done. Keep it up.
Thank you evil red Boris for the comment I appreciate it.
Will add this on my routine
HG, some carburetors have a defected float system, needle can be adjusted to allow more gas, but careful not to over flood, love your video, big up,,man,,
Thank you Rick Paul.
Cool. A friend brought this exact generator over today & i googled it and found this, a channel I already subscribe to and trust. Thanks for the video, now I have a shortcut the what I and doing next.
thank you haneyoakie14
@@HomeGaragechannel thank you. You saved me a lot of time. If you want, I am posting the fairly short video of it running on my channel.
I'll take a look.
I don't even need one of these but I want one lol, heard a lot of good things about em for the price! Great video by the way, you're video help me learn how to diagnose what's wrong with my stuff.
Yes I feel the same way. IT's simple and somewhat useful. Thank you Bobby
that's a great trick with the two nuts to remove the studs, thanks for sharing
no problem.
The Gas part helped me. Had Too much gas on it that it won't run. Thanks!
no problem
Thank you so much for your helpful videos.
Glad you like them!
Hi mate hope your good. For what they are they do the job. It’s a good little runner. Great little video as Always. I’m doing one too this week. Mine is in bad shape unfortunately. Stay safe mate
I will Mick Mowers thank you.
Harbor Freight Special 👍
Haha
Most definitely
@@smallengines1018 lol
Both you and AvE have a tailgator video today 😂
Oh really. I'll have to watch it. Thanks
very clear views, good camera work!
thank you perf b
Nice work! I don’t know if anyone else is having a problem with being unsubscribed but I’ve noticed it on some other channels that I’ve subscribed to plus this one. That’s 😜
Good to know and thank you Mike Jones.
Lights, action, camera timing, edit perfect
thanks
That was good HG. ✔👌
I appreciate it Steve Chandler
Gonna do the same to mine. Was doing the same thing... Run/stall. Now not starting at all. Thanks for the great video
Good luck!
Thanks a lot for this video. Hopefully will be the solution for my generator. I run it at least 4 times a year
hopefully so.
@@HomeGaragechannel IT WASSS!!!!!!. Thnaks bro!!!
nice work!
That really is the cheapest generator.
I believe so
Saved my day!
nice work, and thank you Jerrica Rosenbalm.
Awesome video I know it's a video but it helped me out a lot
thank you Matt
Thanks. That helped.
no problem Joseph Burton
I have such a generator too. Mine has another collour an another name, but it is the same cineese one. The flywheel key sheared of. Because the flywheel key is cast onto the aluminum flywheel. I had to file a groove into the flywheel where the key was and made a key myself. Now it is running like e charm .
nice idea!
I test mine quarterly. It's a nice Sat. afternoon beer drinking job. Fire it up and let it warm up for about 5 minutes then load to 600 watts for 20 minutes. shut off the fuel and a minute later shut off the load and let the rest of the gas burn off.
very nicely explained. Sounds like an enjoyable task
I have a red Storm Cat genny with similar appearance. Pretty neat when you’re in a pinch. I can’t afford a Honda unit, but this is better then nothin’ and powers things up to 6 amp limit. It’s an 800 watt btw😅
nice, and yes it's better than nothing
Thanks so much for this! I’m going up clean my carb… you made it look simple. Last time I messed with it, I took off the gas tank/top to access inside/fuel line. Glad to see there is a proper way to do it.
Any suggestions on what to use/go about to add an exhaust pipe? I would like to mount this in my truckbed under a tonneau cover and run a small exhaust pipe out.
I've never had to do that type of work before on a generator but it sounds like an interesting idea.
I cleaned the jet tonight and sadly not much luck.
How does the Governor work? I notice it opens/closes a plate on the backside of the carb.
Seems like it closes/opens just as it is dying. And I don’t quite understand how the spring tension causes this to happen based on some change in the carb.
Oh, just wanted to add this…. Mine is a bit different. The carb mounts with 2 bolts, not studs, that hold the front face on also. Easier to take carb off, but more a pain to align it all putting back together.
There is also an anchor screwed to the top of the face and bolted to the AC motor/generator to some some part and the ground. The tank has to be taken off to remove the screw or bolt.
Great demo on how to get the studs out btw!
in a non running condition, the plate Is open and the governor is also keeping it open, that is until the engine starts and the governor inside the engine starts to spin. It will then start to move the governor arm and linkage to close the plate to maintain a certain RPM.
thank you. Have you confirmed that you have spark?
Did you pull out and check the pilot jet?
I exercise my generators once a month. I also got rid of the gasoline storage problem by converting it to run on propane. No clogged jets or stale fuel to worry about.
very nice maintenance schedule.
Is this how you are supposed to turn it off every time ? Great video thank you! My tail gators will run for 30 min to hour before shutting off on its own I’m assuming it needs carb and air filter cleaning , last summer I was trying to charge my iPhone and it barely charged and the battery life died very quickly don’t know if it was too hot outside for the phone but they are great for powering lights and a pump for river floaties!
It's the way I turn them off, it will keep the gas from damaging the carb during short storage.
The gen side crank seal popped out on one of mine, it's a 20x30x7 oil seal. That makes for a huge crankcase air-leak, so it wouldn't start (of course) This was an earlier model, I don't think it was the correct material for gasoline/oil. I haven't had any problem (yet) with the crank seal under the flywheel but I think it's the same size.
When adjusting the engine governor speed, I use a frequency meter shooting for 60Hz at about half load, using a 500Watt incandescent shop lamp.
Thank you for the tip, I appreciate it.
I run mine every 2 months with a load. I use 93 octane with an ounce of Seafoam per gallon. It always fires up on the 1st pull. I don’t need it often, but it’s ready to go if I need it. An ounce of prevention....
Very well said. Thank you Jeffrey Baker
Project Farm tore two of these down brand new for a “before and after” experiment. One had a scored cylinder from the factory and the ports on both had rough castings with no machining at all.
Can you send me the link to the video? I haven't seen it and I don't see it on his channel.
I think I remember seeing that video.
@@HomeGaragechannel Can you find it? I haven't seen the video, it seems interesting.
@@cdos9186 If I get around to doing it I will
These are known to come from the factory with some light scoring in the cylinder. Mine is no exception. It doesn't really seem to cause any issues, though. I've put about 50-60 hours on mine.
Had same problem Thanks. 👍👍
Glad it helped
@@HomeGaragechannel Yes but 900 watts is not enough so i can use this one for out side lights. get a 2000 watt for inside Motor Rv 19 feet good for in side. Converter inverter broke. Solar panels would be some more Permanent. Thanks Again you Give Perfect instruction with Clear View's.
@@trafficjon400 no problem
I have one like this (mine is yellow) and I have no spark. I have voltage coming off the two wires coming from the flywheel coil and then they go into a small box and then one lead comes out of there and goes to the coil on the end of the spark plug lead. It looks like I have no voltage coming out of that box. Do you know what it is ? I was wondering if I can bypass it and go straight to the spark plug coil, but I would have two leads not one ?
no I don't know
By the way your videos are great
thank you Jeff Cox I appreciate it.
Hi. Watched your vid.Great work! The issue with my generator is that while it is running, the power that it is generating will intermittently cut out while it is running. This has never happened before while running the same hammer drill. What do you think may be the issue?
first I would check for loose connections behind the electrical panel on the generator, then I would look at the voltage regulator and see If it's looking kind of burnt or it might be loose as well.
Ok will do! Thank you for the reply.
Have a question for you my friend I have a troybilt 2410 blower it was used about 6times it wants to go foward in reverse 1 reverse 2 fine any ideas
I don't work on snow blowers so I'm not what the problem is.
Can you please make a clip on how to proper adjust the adjustable screws (the ones with springs around them) and the idle screw, and how to adjust the governor : why there are three holes on the governor lever how to adjust on "static" without the engine running, then how to adjust "on load". I have dismantled to pieces this generator, put it back together but I don't know how to put everything "in line" to have a working generator. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks
sorry I don't have this generator anymore.
I've got a blown head gasket on my car and I really do not have the time or luxury to do this repair. I just bought the thing and it's probably run less than 8 hrs.
I would have appreciated you excellent work on the carb but I would have tried to reduce the fuel first to see if that was all it needed; obviously yours did but does mine? I have reduced the fuel and so my answer is evident. But I just don't want to take apart a brand new device with this level of delicate work. Oh, hey, my first thought early on the vid was if I could hire you to fix mine.
that's a Nice gesture but I don't do that kind of work
Well well my gas is at the bottom of the filter. Hum, I think that means something.
Oh and I put the spark plug tool on just to test the fitting. The plug turned with some slight resistance. It turn about a quarter turn by hand. It seems that that could indicate something. Your thoughts, anyone?
@@HomeGaragechannel
I was only kidding.
Er, but that was my first thought.
@@rmatrix4777 thank you for clarifying that
We would seldom need a generator since out local supply authority has plonked a bigger 132/11kV substation in our town,the last time we had a big power outage was in 2014 when we had a big flood & storm which knocked down some power lines & shorted the 11 kV side out & caused the circuit breaker to trip.
Their repair crew couldn't get out to us until the flood water subsided. !
that certainly makes sense.
I run my Yamaha generator once a month and then put fresh gas once a year with staples it's always worked for 10 years
Wow nice routine. Thanks for sharing
Interesting didn't know the stud removal method that you use I always just screwed them up with pliers
hey I've done before too, thank you Andy Hollister
These are pretty good little generators, dirt cheap for a brand new one though, 99 bucks at harbor freight will get you a new one of these and they have so many rebrands lol
you are absolutely right about that.
Great video. Mine will not start at all. Would it be the same issue?
there's a very good chance.
Gen on rv starts fine, runs (I warm it up for 2-3 minutes) then I put a load on and it works. Then for some reason after running for 10 -15 minutes I remove the load.The gen continues to run and shortly thereafter it cuts out and switches off. Any suggestions please?
Is it LP, gas or diesel?
i bought one of those just because it was cheap for running battery chargers for cordeless tools. It threw a rod after about 3 hours of use.
wow, that didn't take long.
brob you used straight gas
What is the name of the machine you fixed at the input socket
can you give me a time stamp in the video, so I know what you're looking at
I typically don’t leave fuel in my equipment. But my generator I run ethanol free 90 octane and leave it full. However I run it once a month under load.
that's the best way to do it.
NICE, WHERE TO PUT OIL FOR LUBRICATION?
this is a 2 stroke machine so the oil goes in with the gasoline
After starting my tailgator when I push lever to run it stops running. What can I do to fix this
clean the main fuel jet, or there's an obstruction at the filter screen in the tank. Either way, there's not enough fuel to get thru the carb, and into the engine for it to stay running, at higher engine speeds.
I've had a few of those chineese generators, all with carb problems, and getting the carb off is a pain, woud be a lot easier if they used bolts and not studs .
I totally agree with you
@@HomeGaragechannel My 2 ETQ TG1200 generators use bolts, I'll bet you can find some replacements for the studs.
@@yellow_panther I'm pretty sure you can too.
The only times I run these generators is when the power stays off and the coolers are warming up or we need well water which is pulling 220. I never leave fuel in the gensets and have an old 5K Coleman with a 10 horse Briggs flat head and added a 'T' fitting and another shut off valve so I can drain the tank while the generator is running itself dry and I also added a throttle so it can warm up slowly instead of wide open. And it has a battery maintainer and I spin it over several times a month to keep ot limber. Thanks and Blessings!
I don't mind these little ones, but they can't do much.
@@HomeGaragechannel 1 or 2 fridges would be enough in an emergency.
oh I see.
@@HomeGaragechannel Every little bit helps.
I accidently left the fuel line open and it has the same problem, wont stay running. would this fix that issue? its only a month old and only ran it once. thanks
I would give it a try. Is the gas only a month old?
@@HomeGaragechannel yes and its the pre made 50-1
Since mine is a new generator Pred. 1800, it is probably something else, but a good video anyway.
thank you and good luck
Is that the only place to clean up is the jet no other parts?
In this case it was only the jet, but if there's been fuel sitting in the carb, for a long time
then you might have to clean everywhere the fuel was touching. That means the bowl, the float, and even the pickup for the carb.
how do I get tgo the rocker arms and values?
not on this model, 2 stroke
Beware that gas cap doesn't seal, period. It's a poor design, not overfilled. It will also cause the gas to go stale rather quickly, so draining the tank for storage is absolutely essential.
Thanks for the information
I hear for the price they are a pretty decent generator ! Two stroke though I mean right ?
I've actually got zero problems with this purchase. It's a great little generator
@@HomeGaragechannel i used to disparge these generators on the internet....untill in sept 2017 Hurricane Irma blacked my area i was without power for 8 days. for the 1st couple of days i hooked up a 400 watt inverter to a car battery and used that. then i started running one of my cars all night long with the inverter on it. then someone loaned me one of these little buzzy turds and it ran my fans and charged my tool batteries without issue. it ran great. after the crisis was over i promptly went out and bought one.
here is the thing. these things are nearly the perfect generator. they are light in weight (under 50 lbs) can be stored anywhere. powerful enough to run a 5k window ac. super simple to repair. basically the only things that break are the carb, the reocil starter, and the capacitor that serves as the voltage regulator. if it doesn't run its the carb, if it doesn't produce power its the cap. there is no oil to change. there are no valves to adjust. if you buy one, get a gallon or more of 2 stroke oil for those long power outages. they consume a 5 gallon can of gas every 24 hours. so if you are planning for a week, get 7 cans.
oh and these while two strokes, they only run at 3600 rpm. about 1/4 the rpm of chain saw and 1/2 or less than that of a weedeater or blower. they don't need high performance expensive synthetic 2 stroke oil. the cheap stuff works just fine in these.
@@MrSGL21 thank you for sharing your experience
Its 100 dollars get it before you wish you did lol
I run my big generator about 1-2 a month, I treat my fuel with startron and I never have an issue. Better than stabil.
very nice maintenance routine!
Done. Runs like new
very nice.
Nice!!
Thanks
Yep
@@HomeGaragechannel did you see my other comment on this video
@@smallengines1018 no I only see these last 3 from you
@@HomeGaragechannel it wasn't this comment is was another one
hi, we have a similar generator that looks like that but in our case , it stays running for about 20-25 mins then it stops. what could possibly wrong with it?
I believe you need to replace the gas cap, because it seems to not be venting properly.
Try pulling the muffler off an look up the exhaust hole up by the piston you may have carbon buildup in there if so make sure the piston is all the way down so it out of the way an take a screwdriver an clean out the hole then pull the starter a few times then put it back together an see how it runs
Trying this tomorrow. I have a tiller with this problem.
I'm sure you can get it going
I have left my generator not started for about a year. When I started, it had same issue like this one.
it happens from time to time.
Our newest generator is propane so I don't worry to much about that one. Our smaller one is gas and I think It has a bad low oil level sensor. Bummer on that. Merry Christmas
Are you going to bypass the switch?
How to adjust the governor linkage same generator my is running to high
do you see the screw that has the spring around it, with.. a black plastic cap on it? Turn that, counter clockwise to lower the running speed
Is it normal for the light bulb to blink a bit when the light is plugged into the generator
are you asking about the spark checker? if so, it will blink while connected to it, and while the generator is running.
@@HomeGaragechannel thanks for your repy sir i just want to ask? Is it really natural? that the light is pretty flashing using the generator? but the voltage at the generator output is correct, isn't it dangerous for appliances?
I think I kind of understand what you're asking, and I'm going to say yes, if your lights are flashing, I wouldn't use it for your appliances.
I run my generators on natural gas. Test run under load four times a year.
nice. you're definitely ready for any power outages.
You don't have to run the choke in the choke precision.
Mine was working fine the night before but just won’t keep running the next night. I replaced the carb but the same thing is happening!
have you consider that there might be something wrong with the fuel?
Can't help you on this one I don't own a generator. LOL
Not everyone needs one
50 cc genarator 😂 my chainsaw is 50.1cc
I know right.
How to add engine oil in this generator
this generator Is a 2 stroke, you mix the oil and gasoline according to the owners manual
Air filter not cleaned. Warranty voided.
yes sir
Half of the cost for the generator probably went to the warning stickers
you're on to something
dont forget to change the sparkplug
yep
I never leave fuel in any of my equipment that way I'm sure I'll get more life from my machines
I believe you are absolutely correct
Run rough needs a tune up
runs good enough to make power.
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AvE released a video of the same generator the same day.. hmmmmmm.
It's a conspiracy
I don't have a generator. If I did, I'd dry out the tank and clean the carburetor before storage.
Same
I understand the reasoning for not needing one so I consider it a luxury .
thank you Small engines for the comment
well if i had one i,d run mine as often as possible etc.
My generator too smokey , someone help me please
are you measuring how much oil you're putting in the gasoline?
@@HomeGaragechannel how much need to 5L fuel?
.125 L, if you're putting more than than in, that would explain why it's smoking
@@HomeGaragechannel thank you dear.
The chinese spark plug is junk and has paint on the threads so the conductivity isn't good. I replaced it with a $2 one from Walmart and it fires up and runs every time now.
yes you are correct
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hey I appreciate you helping out with the algorithm
I have one that won't even start! Don't buy it! Cheap is correct!
thank you
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Dude wtf I bought one of these for $10 and it wouldn't run for anything. So I Cleaned carb more thoroughly than shown here, replaced piston and rings (dirty and full of carbon) and have spark when the plug is grounded out of the cylinder. Makes 89psi cold. It won't fire a single time no matter what. Not even a squirt of gas in the carb or cylinder will make it start. Any help is very appreciated.
It will produce spark regardless of what position the on/off switch is in which I found interesting.
even though it's make 89 PSI, it would be better if it was higher. I have to wonder if the the engine is flooded. I would take the spark plug out and pull it over several time, and leave it for a few days, that way.
@@HomeGaragechannel okay thank you. Cold psi usually doubles when warmed up as I've seen 68psi cold turn to 152psi when ran for a minute or two with snowblowers for example. I understand it's not a 4 cycle engine but probably goes by the same principle. It had the same psi before the piston swap too actually lol. Perhaps it is flooded or my mixture is too oily but it has never even tried to fire. I have older saws that want oil so that's what everything gets. About 32:1 give or take. Some people have reported (although rare) that it wouldn't fire without a new or better spark plug. And even said it would show spark well outside the cylinder but then would never fire inside the cylinder. It has a torch ft7c or whatever and I believe it's actually supposed to have a bp5es. Don't know if those interchange. This is a powercraft gg900 but they're all the same more or less.
that's strange
I'll have to check again, but
every time I've done cold an hot
compression tests, they've been consistent
and there's hardly a difference