We bought one even though we got a Powermate and a craftsman but this one is nice with it's small compact size and price we got ours on sale and we use it on a harbor freight pole saw. (the pole saw can pull 7 amps but the generator keeps it at 6.5 amps I know it's bad to push it but it fits in a lawn mower trailer and it's lightweight.)
What about the decibel levels? I don't think a black gas cap makes a generator better or worse than a green gas cap. Personally, I prefer NOT to have the extra housing around the spark plug wire because if your having troubles with your generator and your not getting spark at the plug, you can visually see the condition of the plug wire, with the housing, you can't . This means you may be looking further in troubleshooting than what you would normally do if you could see the obvious
I was at the holiday gas station and the guy lost his wallet somewhere They told him that they would have to call the police and he sold me A Ryobi 2300 watt inverter Generator in the box unopened for $300
On your opening photo you recommend the 63025 I know you have said the 63024 on other comments but looking at the video the 63025 is the one with the better quality. Did you just switch the positions in the video? Still excellent video
@@therealyooper7548 What makes you say that? What type of issues have you had with yours? Just curious I've been thinking about getting one but I've heard all types of mixed reviews on these! Although for $109 I don't really think you could go wrong.
ive seen 5k generators for $50 - $100 on craigslist many times. some look brand new some look old and worn out. if you know what you're doing, all of them can run great.
My 63024 has been a great generator, especially after break in, have over 100 hours on the original spark plug, just upgraded to e3 spark plug 3.22, it starts easier now. I have run over 900W loads no problem. I use high quality marine TCW3 oil.
I have the old Chicago Pneumatic blue generator purchased in 2009 , manufactured by Yangke still powering a lot of my electric powered tools and lawn and garden electrical tools . The secret to the longevity is 93 octane fuel with Staybil , quality 2 stroke oil mixed properly , an in line Briggs and Stratton fuel filter , put a real air filter that fills the entire filter chamber and keep it clean and slightly oiled , change the plug boot and change the spark plug , I use a NGK nickel BP5ES no problems so far . Make sure you brake in the generator properly , turn it off with the fuel cock and let the fuel bowl empty and drain any remaining fuel if you are not going to use it far a few months or longer . Always start it at full choke and it won't kick back at you if it is still hot when trying to restart it if you needed to turn it off . Engage the pall on the starter pull before pulling to start , never jerk it . I purchased a 63024 and am going to follow the same procedure on the new one , your info was very helpful in my decision , bought it on sale $84.99 , Thanks .
I have both models of tailgator and my 24 rattles like a son of a gun my 25 run's perfect so far. In my opinion the 25 is the better one. Also on the HF website more positive reviews on the 25 then the 24. Just my two cents worth
+cabmaker I haven't fired up the 24 yet, but it has all the better exterior traits of the 69381 and the 25 is clearly a repaint of the 60338, which in my experiences was horrible. I would suspect the extra reviews for the 25 are because there are more of them in the stores. I just looked at the reviews and they're almost dead even as far as percentages. Time will tell as the Tailgator variant is so new. I'll be putting these through some tough duty very soon. I'll be curious how they hold up compare to their counterpart StormCat models. Thanks for commenting. Let me know how yours hold up.
seems like we could take the best parts off each and make a hybrid that would be great. Thanks for your reviews. I have to admit I like playing with these little gen's
+cabmaker LOL. You may have inadvertently created the formula for a super generator. I agree that these are fun little generators, and cheap fun is always the best!
@@KevCentral I had a 50cc 2 stroke scooter before and Shell (dark green bottle with a snowmobile label) 2 stroke oil felt better than Amsoil and cheaper. Also there is this stuff called Xado, they make stuff that helps rebuild worn metal. My experience was with 1 syringe treatment on the auto tranny and it cured the notchy shifting driving and stop to reverse for like 2 years. I can feel alittle notchy when stop to reverse come back. May have to add another treatment. Hell save me thousands of dollars for mechanic work for $30! They have one for cylinder treatment, check it out.
Thank you been looking at picking up one of these for a backup and would have never realized there was that much of a difference. Kinda like their bar clamps same look but the blue handled ones are better made than the black handled. I'm going to pay closer attention to this type of thing in future.
But how do you know which one to get he has flipped and flopped on the numbers. One minute he says the one ending in four is good the next minute he saying the one ending in five is good okay...
You didn't explain why the 63025 models are more prone to failure which in my opinion is a pretty obvious mistake & the main reason why I watched this video to begin with. All the things you mentioned in the video were superficial sans the spark plug lead having a thin plastic tube over it which isn't a big deal either. Only one minute thing (spark plug lead cover) you mentioned effect the longevity or performance of these generators. I though you were going to mention something important like ie: 63024 models have a chrome plated steel cylinder liner & the 63025 models only have cast aluminum cylinder liners, or 63024 have Walbro carbs & the 63025 have cheap knock off carbs, or 63024 have forged pistons & connecting rods & the 25 models do not, Or 24 models have CDI ignition & 25 models have a points type ignition, or there is significantly more cooling fins on the flywheel fan & cylinder head on 24 models VS the 25 model etc., etc., etc.. It would really help consumers a lot more explaining more substantive reasons 63024 models last longer & perform better than the 63025 models. Just my .02 cents.
Jet Engine Thrust you desreve way more comment likes...are your comment legit or where you just saying examples? i got the 25 model....its done me well so far
@Jet EnghineThrust I have the 24 model but mine seems to be running a little rich. Do you have any insight or instructions on how to adjust the air/fuel mixture on this carb? I am mixing my fuel perfectly and it just seems to lobe a little more than it should and it smokes way too much. Any help will be appreciated.
I just got a"025" ran for 10 minutes. during that time the engine knock, with a distinct ring to it. after that it quit. it would restart them quit. tried to change spark plug , and check everything. had clean fresh gas, exact oil ratio. still nothing. disappoint. had hi hopes
Dude, you need to remake your video because no one knows what you're talking about. You keep Miss stating your numbers one minute you're saying get the for next minute you're saying get the one ending in five. Back and forth through the whole video. Honestly I have no idea which one to get
Yeah. That was back when I had no actual video plan and just started recording. If it helps, the current models are basically equal from what I can tell.
Both look to be about the same. Both could use an upgrade in the spark plug and starter grips. If you absolutely have to have shielding for the spark plug wire, its easy to obtain and install. If they come with the same engine and generators then you are getting pretty much the same thing. Or, engine is the first thing I would look at.
63024 & 63025 Neither are a perfect Generator , I bought one and it first running perfectly then abou two weeks later , it started to mess up the Engine , when i plug in the generator the light started go high & low same than to the house Fan , what the problem now , any Answers ????
Wish I had seen this video beforehand but, with hurricane Irma on the way, I'm lucky to have one at all. Do both manuals spec the spark plug gap at 0.0011"? I don't have a micrometer.
@@chevygang4505 Hey Chevy, Got it during a Black Friday deal and its still in the box today. Im wanting to use it for tailgating but havnt had the opportunity yet. I did read that a woman bought it for her mother after a hurricane and she operated a window a/c unit and fridge with no issues. Got a good deal on it so i grabbed it.
@@hksjoshua I read a girl got it for her mother in Puerto Rico a few years back after a hurricane and said it ran a SMALL window AC unit and a fridge with no issues. Ran for a few weeks, guess she had a lot of fuel. I wouldn't rely on it for that personally but i just use it for tailgating.
I have a 600w version of these. It was running perfectly then stopped, drained the carb, checked the spark on the original plug and there was none. Replaced with a Champion N9YC and still no spark, any ideas? I am now wondering about your comment of a flimsy plug cap. Hi from NZ, Anthony.
My advice is clean it out as best you can take the gas tank off make sure there's no rust in it and if there is put a bunch of nuts and bolts and some gasoline in and shake it up until there's no more rust before you put the gas tank back on check for spark but also check to make sure that no other wires are shorting out underneath the gas tank causing any Sparks and last but not least after all said and done and it won't start still just take off the pull cord and use a drill give it a first start let it run for a while and it should run with one pull after that if all is well. You may need a new coil pack if there's no spark or a new Magneto but both are under $20 each at Harbor Freight online
someone took pride in my 25 model...i thre away cup...useless anyway...kept red ring...somewhat usefull...manufactered nearly perfectly..no flaws that i have found. exept 6.5 amp sticker wrong...should be 7.5 max amp hence 900watt label
Man, I watched your video to get a perspective on which one to buy. I get your doing a thorough review but my God, the first 10 mins is spent showing box sizes and sticker decal similarities, metal edge differences... no one cares about that. Your confusing talking about all the model numbers, at the start there is a red generator on the left and a green one on the right, then POOF both of them are green. I have a headache!
Next time you may just consider 2 things. 1 put a sticky note on the one that is better and write the word "Better". Then when you talk about them you can just refer to the one that Better. Using all those numbers over and over makes my head spin :) I think folks would get alot more out of the video. But thank you for making it. I am glad that I have the "Better one"!
@KevCentral, I have 3 of these 2 stroke HF generators. What have you found to be the best spark plug for these 2 stroke HF generators? And what gap do you find runs the best? I always seem to get carbon fouling on my plugs. And finally, on average, how many pulls does it normally take to start yours?
Do you shake your generator before starting it? If not, you should. The oil and gas are separating and you are getting too much oil into the cylinder. Or, you aren't running the right mixture. That's just my .02 cents, I hope it helps.
You should stick to your reviews of shoes your talkin about how the box looks and over spray on the generator when when you should be reviewing the power output to see if one outperforms the other what a waste of a video
in addition to the 63024, I found a NIB never used 69381 Storm cat and a NIB 66619! paid $60 for each. just fired up the 66619 a few minutes ago. started on the 3rd pull.
+Bill Campbell Good call. On my personal one that's one of the first things I did as well. I also installed an NGK plug cap. ua-cam.com/video/5hSnG0_yn7s/v-deo.html
I added NGK spark plug cap and plug, a high quality fuel filter to mine plus put 3 tablespoons of 2 stroke oil down the spark plug hole before the first start. I sprayed the foam filter with foam filter oil.
Someone gave me one of these that he couldn't get started. I plugged in the spark plug and it started on the second pull. Works pretty good for a free generator.
I just got one tonight and it fired right up. Ran great too. Yes I did get the 63024 version. I also sprayed a light penetrating oil in the spark plug hole before starting it so it wouldn't be dry.
It says it is a 1 galon tank. It is not 1 galon it is about a little more than 1/2 galon. I have one i use a 1 galon cranberry juice jug to make my mix. When i fill the tank i a little less than 1/2 the jug left. It does run 5 hrs using. 32in led tv sat box charging 2 celphones and a 18 fan. Here in puerto rico after huricane maria
+Love2boat92 Thanks for commenting. That's totally my opinion and is in no way based on anything other than my suspicion and the differences in quality and components. I would imagine the volume alone would warrant multiple manufacturing sources for just about everything they carry. Hence the multiple different item numbers and differences in quality between the separate item numbers.
I picked up a 63024, I already have a 60338 (about 4 hours on it & yes it's knocking too). After changing the plug, boot & adding the same hour meter I found that the 63024 just runs smoother (from 1st pull) than the 60338. A noticeable difference really. I'll keep both, if I can get 281 hours out of the '38' it's worth it. Thanks for all the great research & testing. Nice Job....
+Tom Young congrats on the new '24,' and thanks for the comments. I have quite a few new videos coming on the TailGator and one potential comparably priced competitor, so check back.
@@haleybugbrookie458 you fill the gas tank all the way up with oil and then pull the cord about 10 times, (make sure the fuel valve is on) then turn the machine on it's side for about 20 minutes to absorb the oil, then you open the gas tank and fill with gasoline and repeat the process. It's really quite simple actually.
Generator '63024' was on the left side but then next thing I see, '63024' the right side what is the deal with you? trying to be confusing misleading or what?
im so lost on these numbers. Why just not called them Model A and the newer Model B. Whats gonna happen next year is HF gonna say, we got to new Models The Tailgator Model # 63969 and an even newer one The Tailgator Model # 63696?? if they do that im gonna wrap that pull cord around my neck and " choke" on it!! lol omg so freaking confusing!!!!
Brand new 63024 and it won't start. Took me ten minutes to get it started the first time...ran it until the fuel exhausted. Refilled it and it will not start...at all... taking it back. New equipment shouldn't be hard to start right out of the box, even if it is Chinese. JUNK
Chill out haters. If you watch the video you realize that he is recommending the 63024. I stalked the local HF's for several months until I could finally find one that wasn't the 63025. It worked great running it once a week last winter to charge my shed batteries and run some power tools, radio and lights.
Hey sir you mixed up your numbers in the video. The newer one is the 63025 and was shown boxed on the right side but in the end of the video you call it the 63024. The right side 25 model will certainly be a newer model, maybe they changed manufacturers because of minor defects.
GREAT! At 2:15 after you UNBOX the two you swap them from left to right?!?!?!?!?! YOu show the foam packaing and have the 024 of the left, then after removing the plastic, you put the 025 ON the left?!?!?!?! NOW how do we know which is which?!?!?!?!
I have a new one I just bought. 63025. It makes a knocking clattering noise while under a 500watt load. Is this normal? Most would say no, I don’t like i noise but if it is normal I’ll have to live with it.
well I have the 63024 and it just crapped out the other day, hopefully I can find the receipt as it is about 2 1/2 months old! Probably one of the worst little generators I have bought! Was making some clanging noises about 3 weeks old, gas cap leaks gas all over the place and now gas just pours out of the carb area. Not even going to bother with it if I can just go get a free replacement, gotta go hunt down that receipt. On a positive not when it did run it did take on a load fairly well when kept within the amps and watts.
They are cheap because there is no tight control in manufacturing so you get a wide range of defects from BOTH numbers which are Both made at the same plant - your comparison is ridiculous.
I have a 63025 Tailgator that recently stopped running properly. It seems to have lost its governor and runs only in an idle-like mode, and will not power anything except LED lights. Have you any experiance with this issue and how to fix it?
my 24 fired up on the second pull. Wawa 89 ethanol free Pennzoil twc3 two stroke oil. only issue was no load voltage was 141. I adjusted the gov down and stuck a 60 watt load on it. then I mowed the lawn. checked the Genny and voltage was way down had to adjust it back up. now I've got it. o load 127 and 120 with load.
@@pappy451 What are the differences? We used to use just regular old motor oil in our two stroke dirt bikes and mopeds when we were kids of course this was like a million years ago.
@@chivosadventures8171 . . . just in the way they are made . but i will tell you i did the same as you . in my old yamaha 360 . but they are different . one is made to burn , the other to lubricate . both will burn , but one is specifically designed to burn while the other is designed to resist burning ( from friction and engine heat ) , but yes , it does burn .
i ran my blue chicago electric one into the ground during hurricane sandy. was replaced with a red storm cat. that one finally bit the dust. been very pleased with them actually, i've run them hard and they are super cheap. i was about to get a tailgator but then saw that Costco is selling a similar looking generator, albeit slightly larger, about 5 lbs heavier, but.... it's 4 stroke!! it's made by Firman and is $149.99 right now. it's also more powerful, 1000W running. i decided to order one of those. i'll report back on my findings
I got the last '24' at my local harbor freight, been slowly breaking it's first 25 hours on small things like a 300 watt bulb or a small drill, then when that's over I'll push it to it's rated limits!
I just bought a 63025 and it has the thin rim around the top the the old "worse one" but has the clean nice casting of the new "better one" are they mixing parts now? Also mine didn't come with a mixing up. Has the old style pull handle and the new red gas fill ring.
+L Wolf The flashing on the end cap varies from bad to better on both models. The mixing cup should have been separately packaged in the box of the 25, but they regularly forget to put in items. All 25s should have the red ring. Have you ran it yet?
+Leslie B From my experience with these things you're good to go if they make it through the first 10 hours. I wouldn't worry too much about getting the 25 over the 24. They newer versions seem to have more quality control than in the past. Thanks for commenting.
+Aaron B I think I did accidentally reverse them once during the video. The 24 is the model I recommend, though the overall quality is nearly equal on the two models now.
I have a red one and a green one not sure of the numbers but they both work fine. Key is proper breakin and not to over load them. Take care of your tools no matter how much they cost. Been using them for off road races for last 4 years even loaned one to a race fan who's motor home gen took a sh*t, they needed to make coffee and run some lights. Nothing major in return he gave me a 100 foot heavy cord.
you were flip-flopping and the other guys asking about mixing the gas mix it in a can then pour it in Old Pro I ride a Honda CR500 but I only use VP fuel but gas applies the same
other than being picky on spark plug cleanliness my rig cut lucabond with a 4amp angle grinder like hot knife through butter . then drove screws to attach same to house under pinning all the same time running a fan for our comfort (did change spark cap to NGK type cap better for the inspection and service of plug cleaning at three tank fulls verry good value)
I just bought the TailGator. I put about 16 oz of Trufuel 50:1 into the tank and I must have tried 50 pulls with the choke on and off. I pulled out the spark pull to make sure that it was getting spark. After a few more tried it would start up but then die. If I would let it sit for a 20 seconds, it would start up again and die. I then put the full 32 oz of fuel in and it then started running. I let it run for about 30 minutes with no load and then I was going to put a light load on it for another 30 minutes. I was using a fan for the load. Probably under 300 watts. But once I put the fan on it ran for about 60 seconds then died. I started back up and it died again after a few seconds. The next time I started up and it started to die, I put on the choke and it started running again but I believe it eventually died. I can open up gas cap and I can see gas right below the screen. It seems like it is not able to get enough gas. Any ideas before I return it and maybe try another one? If it had something to do with spark plug I don't see how turning on choke would make it run better. And after running for 30 minutes, adding choke should not make it run better. Thoughts anyone?
My advise would be to take it back and get one you don’t have to fight to keep running. In my experience it’s not worth the hassle or worry when you can swap it for one that works properly out of the box.
The decision was kind of made for me. The 63024 is all that is available at my local Harbor Freight. I had to pick through the pile as most of the boxes looked like someone ran a forklift into them. I needed something to put a charge into a jump starter to run a CPAP in power outage situations and camping. This should do the trick!
I have a cpap machine too. I was thinking about getting a 12 volt lithium battery and a power inverter for power outages. The only downside is the cost as the Tailgater is much cheaper. The upside is you don't have to run extention cords because it's inside, and you don't have to worry about someone stealing the generator while you're sleeping.
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You keep mis-stating the stock numbers and losing everyone !!!!!!
We bought one even though we got a Powermate and a craftsman but this one is nice with it's small compact size and price we got ours on sale and we use it on a harbor freight pole saw. (the pole saw can pull 7 amps but the generator keeps it at 6.5 amps I know it's bad to push it but it fits in a lawn mower trailer and it's lightweight.)
What about the decibel levels? I don't think a black gas cap makes a generator better or worse than a green gas cap. Personally, I prefer NOT to have the extra housing around the spark plug wire because if your having troubles with your generator and your not getting spark at the plug, you can visually see the condition of the plug wire, with the housing, you can't . This means you may be looking further in troubleshooting than what you would normally do if you could see the obvious
keeps comparing to "338" but the title is for the 24 and 25..
Which one should I get, you confuse the numbers so much I don't know and we have a hurricane coming!
Since this video was made both are about equal in quality.
Now I want to replace the Chinese receptacle with a better quality dual outlet with a GFI. It seems pretty simple to me. Has anyone else done this?
I just plug a power strip into mine, then run off of that.
I was at the holiday gas station and the guy lost his wallet somewhere They told him that they would have to call the police and he sold me A Ryobi 2300 watt inverter Generator in the box unopened for $300
Kevin!!!
You keep flip flopping on the numbers ... first the 24 is the better one ... then you say the 25 is better ... then the other way again.
+Wayne Novotny Accidental inversion. I recommend the 24 over the 25.
On your opening photo you recommend the 63025 I know you have said the 63024 on other comments but looking at the video the 63025 is the one with the better quality. Did you just switch the positions in the video?
Still excellent video
Don’t buy one! I did its garbage!
@@therealyooper7548
What makes you say that? What type of issues have you had with yours? Just curious I've been thinking about getting one but I've heard all types of mixed reviews on these! Although for $109 I don't really think you could go wrong.
ive seen 5k generators for $50 - $100 on craigslist many times. some look brand new some look old and worn out. if you know what you're doing, all of them can run great.
My 63024 has been a great generator, especially after break in, have over 100 hours on the original spark plug, just upgraded to e3 spark plug 3.22, it starts easier now. I have run over 900W loads no problem. I use high quality marine TCW3 oil.
You owe me TYLENOL those numbers. I got heahache after watching ur video
I don't care about cosmetic differences. Talk about performance.
I have the old Chicago Pneumatic blue generator purchased in 2009 , manufactured by Yangke still powering a lot of my electric powered tools and lawn and garden electrical tools . The secret to the longevity is 93 octane fuel with Staybil , quality 2 stroke oil mixed properly , an in line Briggs and Stratton fuel filter , put a real air filter that fills the entire filter chamber and keep it clean and slightly oiled , change the plug boot and change the spark plug , I use a NGK nickel BP5ES no problems so far . Make sure you brake in the generator properly , turn it off with the fuel cock and let the fuel bowl empty and drain any remaining fuel if you are not going to use it far a few months or longer . Always start it at full choke and it won't kick back at you if it is still hot when trying to restart it if you needed to turn it off . Engage the pall on the starter pull before pulling to start , never jerk it . I purchased a 63024 and am going to follow the same procedure on the new one , your info was very helpful in my decision , bought it on sale $84.99 , Thanks .
Are you serious you did not even start them. I may be wrong but I am concerned with how they run not which one has a wider edge. Just saying!
That’s Interesting and I never would have thought about looking for this.
I have both models of tailgator and my 24 rattles like a son of a gun my 25 run's perfect so far. In my opinion the 25 is the better one. Also on the HF website more positive reviews on the 25 then the 24. Just my two cents worth
+cabmaker I haven't fired up the 24 yet, but it has all the better exterior traits of the 69381 and the 25 is clearly a repaint of the 60338, which in my experiences was horrible. I would suspect the extra reviews for the 25 are because there are more of them in the stores. I just looked at the reviews and they're almost dead even as far as percentages. Time will tell as the Tailgator variant is so new. I'll be putting these through some tough duty very soon. I'll be curious how they hold up compare to their counterpart StormCat models. Thanks for commenting. Let me know how yours hold up.
seems like we could take the best parts off each and make a hybrid that would be great. Thanks for your reviews. I have to admit I like playing with these little gen's
+cabmaker LOL. You may have inadvertently created the formula for a super generator.
I agree that these are fun little generators, and cheap fun is always the best!
+Leslie B Lol. That's the beauty of HF. You have a 90-day trial run period :)
@@KevCentral I had a 50cc 2 stroke scooter before and Shell (dark green bottle with a snowmobile label) 2 stroke oil felt better than Amsoil and cheaper.
Also there is this stuff called Xado, they make stuff that helps rebuild worn metal.
My experience was with 1 syringe treatment on the auto tranny and it cured the notchy shifting driving and stop to reverse for like 2 years. I can feel alittle notchy when stop to reverse come back. May have to add another treatment. Hell save me thousands of dollars for mechanic work for $30! They have one for cylinder treatment, check it out.
Thank you been looking at picking up one of these for a backup and would have never realized there was that much of a difference. Kinda like their bar clamps same look but the blue handled ones are better made than the black handled. I'm going to pay closer attention to this type of thing in future.
But how do you know which one to get he has flipped and flopped on the numbers. One minute he says the one ending in four is good the next minute he saying the one ending in five is good okay...
Thank you for the info. I just picked one up of the 24 variety and was glad I did after hearing your research. Kudos!
Stay safe !
Congrats, though I think the newer versions are about equal on both generators.
@@KevCentral yessir, I do so enjoy the little guy, works like a charm. Overall, for a benjamin it's well worth it.
Thanks!! A big help. HF always has 2 of what appears to be the same product. Now I know why.
You didn't explain why the 63025 models are more prone to failure which in my opinion is a pretty obvious mistake & the main reason why I watched this video to begin with. All the things you mentioned in the video were superficial sans the spark plug lead having a thin plastic tube over it which isn't a big deal either. Only one minute thing (spark plug lead cover) you mentioned effect the longevity or performance of these generators. I though you were going to mention something important like ie: 63024 models have a chrome plated steel cylinder liner & the 63025 models only have cast aluminum cylinder liners, or 63024 have Walbro carbs & the 63025 have cheap knock off carbs, or 63024 have forged pistons & connecting rods & the 25 models do not, Or 24 models have CDI ignition & 25 models have a points type ignition, or there is significantly more cooling fins on the flywheel fan & cylinder head on 24 models VS the 25 model etc., etc., etc.. It would really help consumers a lot more explaining more substantive reasons 63024 models last longer & perform better than the 63025 models. Just my .02 cents.
Jet Engine Thrust you desreve way more comment likes...are your comment legit or where you just saying examples? i got the 25 model....its done me well so far
@Jet EnghineThrust I have the 24 model but mine seems to be running a little rich. Do you have any insight or instructions on how to adjust the air/fuel mixture on this carb? I am mixing my fuel perfectly and it just seems to lobe a little more than it should and it smokes way too much. Any help will be appreciated.
Thumbs down without a complete tear down this tells me absolutely next to nothing
I have the red one and got to where it would not stare....got rid of the Chinese plug and put good one in....starts fine now
I just got a"025" ran for 10 minutes. during that time the engine knock, with a distinct ring to it. after that it quit. it would restart them quit. tried to change spark plug , and check everything. had clean fresh gas, exact oil ratio. still nothing. disappoint. had hi hopes
Dude, you need to remake your video because no one knows what you're talking about. You keep Miss stating your numbers one minute you're saying get the for next minute you're saying get the one ending in five. Back and forth through the whole video. Honestly I have no idea which one to get
Yeah. That was back when I had no actual video plan and just started recording. If it helps, the current models are basically equal from what I can tell.
I bought the 24.5
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Your confusing me. you keep calling the 24 the 25 and the 25 the 24.
+Keith Williams I only mixed it up once
Both look to be about the same. Both could use an upgrade in the spark plug and starter grips. If you absolutely have to have shielding for the spark plug wire, its easy to obtain and install. If they come with the same engine and generators then you are getting pretty much the same thing. Or, engine is the first thing I would look at.
Not only that, the dumbass SWAPPED them from left to right after unboxing so you don't know which is whiwh to get the BETTER of the two!!!!!
+Col Jr well if you paid attention,which you didn't, the 24 has a black gas cap. the 25 is chromed.
KevCentral you done a great job.
we don't care about trivial cosmetics, which one is more reliable?
Right? In a video like this you expect a complete teardown
WHY dont you start by stating the factory locations ? !
Thanks, after watching your video, I bought the 24
There are certain people in this world that you just DO NOT want to sell anything to!!
both junk!! never buy a two cycle generator
63024 & 63025 Neither are a perfect Generator , I bought one and it first running perfectly then abou two weeks later , it started to mess up the Engine , when i plug in the generator the light started go high & low same than to the house Fan , what the problem now , any Answers ????
Wish I had seen this video beforehand but, with hurricane Irma on the way, I'm lucky to have one at all.
Do both manuals spec the spark plug gap at 0.0011"? I don't have a micrometer.
Plug gap should be 0.020~0.022", it's not super critical but use a wire gap gauge. 0.0011 is way too close, almost no gap!
An 11tenths gap is probably all the mustard the coil has ;(
Just use quality oil in your mixture and mid grade fuel and it will run perfect
Just got mine, thinking of using pre mixed 50-1 gallon cans with it, also might switch out the factory spark plug for a more reliable one too.
@@MulletHead87 how is it I'm looking into getting one..and which model did you get thanks in advance
@@chevygang4505 Hey Chevy, Got it during a Black Friday deal and its still in the box today. Im wanting to use it for tailgating but havnt had the opportunity yet. I did read that a woman bought it for her mother after a hurricane and she operated a window a/c unit and fridge with no issues. Got a good deal on it so i grabbed it.
@@MulletHead87 I doubt it ran a ac unit !
@@hksjoshua I read a girl got it for her mother in Puerto Rico a few years back after a hurricane and said it ran a SMALL window AC unit and a fridge with no issues. Ran for a few weeks, guess she had a lot of fuel. I wouldn't rely on it for that personally but i just use it for tailgating.
I just bought the 024 and it didnt have a plug wire shielding around it .
I have a 600w version of these. It was running perfectly then stopped, drained the carb, checked the spark on the original plug and there was none. Replaced with a Champion N9YC and still no spark, any ideas? I am now wondering about your comment of a flimsy plug cap.
Hi from NZ,
Anthony.
This is old but it sounds like a bad coil, suuuper easy to change
Found one by the curb someone threw away looks brand new, any common issues I haven't tried to start it yet.
My advice is clean it out as best you can take the gas tank off make sure there's no rust in it and if there is put a bunch of nuts and bolts and some gasoline in and shake it up until there's no more rust before you put the gas tank back on check for spark but also check to make sure that no other wires are shorting out underneath the gas tank causing any Sparks and last but not least after all said and done and it won't start still just take off the pull cord and use a drill give it a first start let it run for a while and it should run with one pull after that if all is well. You may need a new coil pack if there's no spark or a new Magneto but both are under $20 each at Harbor Freight online
Please don’t add gasoline to nuts and bolts to clean the tank, marvels mystery oil is safer and any residual mmo is good for the fuel system imho.
someone took pride in my 25 model...i thre away cup...useless anyway...kept red ring...somewhat usefull...manufactered nearly perfectly..no flaws that i have found. exept 6.5 amp sticker wrong...should be 7.5 max amp hence 900watt label
Man, I watched your video to get a perspective on which one to buy. I get your doing a thorough review but my God, the first 10 mins is spent showing box sizes and sticker decal similarities, metal edge differences... no one cares about that. Your confusing talking about all the model numbers, at the start there is a red generator on the left and a green one on the right, then POOF both of them are green. I have a headache!
Next time you may just consider 2 things. 1 put a sticky note on the one that is better and write the word "Better". Then when you talk about them you can just refer to the one that Better. Using all those numbers over and over makes my head spin :) I think folks would get alot more out of the video. But thank you for making it. I am glad that I have the "Better one"!
@KevCentral, I have 3 of these 2 stroke HF generators. What have you found to be the best spark plug for these 2 stroke HF generators? And what gap do you find runs the best? I always seem to get carbon fouling on my plugs. And finally, on average, how many pulls does it normally take to start yours?
8:43 minutes wasted
if you keep fouling plugs, try an ngk bpr-5es or bp-6es
Do you shake your generator before starting it? If not, you should. The oil and gas are separating and you are getting too much oil into the cylinder. Or, you aren't running the right mixture. That's just my .02 cents, I hope it helps.
With that crappy undersized foam piece for an air filter,
I wouldn't buy any of them!........
You should stick to your reviews of shoes your talkin about how the box looks and over spray on the generator when when you should be reviewing the power output to see if one outperforms the other what a waste of a video
So I have 63025 that was free and soon to see if it runs! 👍👍 I will update you soon if mine runs
in addition to the 63024, I found a NIB never used 69381 Storm cat and a NIB 66619! paid $60 for each. just fired up the 66619 a few minutes ago. started on the 3rd pull.
First thing I did was put in an NKG spark plug.
+Bill Campbell Good call. On my personal one that's one of the first things I did as well. I also installed an NGK plug cap.
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I added NGK spark plug cap and plug, a high quality fuel filter to mine plus put 3 tablespoons of 2 stroke oil down the spark plug hole before the first start. I sprayed the foam filter with foam filter oil.
Huh, is NKG a new brand or something? I've only ever used NGK, in the yellow box with red accents.
Yet another waste of money. A quality spark plug in a junk generator. 👍
my brains melting
...I GOT THE 409 AND IT RUNS THE WHOLE TRAILER PARK !!
Thank you. This was great. Very helpful.
Someone gave me one of these that he couldn't get started. I plugged in the spark plug and it started on the second pull. Works pretty good for a free generator.
What a pal you are for not giving it back to him.
I just got one tonight and it fired right up. Ran great too. Yes I did get the 63024 version. I also sprayed a light penetrating oil in the spark plug hole before starting it so it wouldn't be dry.
It says it is a 1 galon tank. It is not 1 galon it is about a little more than 1/2 galon. I have one i use a 1 galon cranberry juice jug to make my mix. When i fill the tank i a little less than 1/2 the jug left. It does run
5 hrs using. 32in led tv sat box charging 2 celphones and a 18 fan. Here in puerto rico after huricane maria
Are you guys still running on generator power down there? I was hoping most of the grid was repaired by now.
Real world use is what should matter
63025=paying your workers $10/hr
63024=paying your workers $15/hr
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I wonder why they have 2 different plants manufacturing their generators. Thanks for the video!!
+Love2boat92 Thanks for commenting. That's totally my opinion and is in no way based on anything other than my suspicion and the differences in quality and components. I would imagine the volume alone would warrant multiple manufacturing sources for just about everything they carry. Hence the multiple different item numbers and differences in quality between the separate item numbers.
It's so that HF can identify quality control problems in case one stock number experiences higher failure / return rates than the other.
I picked up a 63024, I already have a 60338 (about 4 hours on it & yes it's knocking too). After changing the plug, boot & adding the same hour meter I found that the 63024 just runs smoother (from 1st pull) than the 60338. A noticeable difference really. I'll keep both, if I can get 281 hours out of the '38' it's worth it. Thanks for all the great research & testing. Nice Job....
+Tom Young congrats on the new '24,' and thanks for the comments. I have quite a few new videos coming on the TailGator and one potential comparably priced competitor, so check back.
Where oil go in
It mixes with the gas
@@haleybugbrookie458 you fill the gas tank all the way up with oil and then pull the cord about 10 times, (make sure the fuel valve is on) then turn the machine on it's side for about 20 minutes to absorb the oil, then you open the gas tank and fill with gasoline and repeat the process. It's really quite simple actually.
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Lmao
Generator '63024' was on the left side but then next thing I see, '63024' the right side what is the deal with you? trying to be confusing misleading or what?
Nah, just stupid
Confusing which model you're referring to..
Sorry to say but this is the only technical video about these that is not BS.
Everything at harborfreight seems to have 2 part numbers.
i got the TailGator 63024 yey!
im so lost on these numbers. Why just not called them Model A and the newer Model B. Whats gonna happen next year is HF gonna say, we got to new Models The Tailgator Model # 63969 and an even newer one The Tailgator Model # 63696?? if they do that im gonna wrap that pull cord around my neck and " choke" on it!! lol omg so freaking confusing!!!!
Brand new 63024 and it won't start. Took me ten minutes to get it started the first time...ran it until the fuel exhausted. Refilled it and it will not start...at all... taking it back. New equipment shouldn't be hard to start right out of the box, even if it is Chinese. JUNK
Can I add a triple socket adapter on the front of this generator? Or just a multi outlet plastic panel?
I just plug in a 6 way power strip into the generator, and plug my tools and extension cord into that.
Chill out haters. If you watch the video you realize that he is recommending the 63024. I stalked the local HF's for several months until I could finally find one that wasn't the 63025. It worked great running it once a week last winter to charge my shed batteries and run some power tools, radio and lights.
Hey sir you mixed up your numbers in the video. The newer one is the 63025 and was shown boxed on the right side but in the end of the video you call it the 63024. The right side 25 model will certainly be a newer model, maybe they changed manufacturers because of minor defects.
GREAT! At 2:15 after you UNBOX the two you swap them from left to right?!?!?!?!?! YOu show the foam packaing and have the 024 of the left, then after removing the plastic, you put the 025 ON the left?!?!?!?! NOW how do we know which is which?!?!?!?!
I have a new one I just bought. 63025. It makes a knocking clattering noise while under a 500watt load. Is this normal? Most would say no, I don’t like i noise but if it is normal I’ll have to live with it.
well I have the 63024 and it just crapped out the other day, hopefully I can find the receipt as it is about 2 1/2 months old! Probably one of the worst little generators I have bought! Was making some clanging noises about 3 weeks old, gas cap leaks gas all over the place and now gas just pours out of the carb area. Not even going to bother with it if I can just go get a free replacement, gotta go hunt down that receipt. On a positive not when it did run it did take on a load fairly well when kept within the amps and watts.
They are cheap because there is no tight control in manufacturing so you get a wide range of defects from BOTH numbers which are Both made at the same plant - your comparison is ridiculous.
I have a 63025 Tailgator that recently stopped running properly. It seems to have lost its governor and runs only in an idle-like mode, and will not power anything except LED lights. Have you any experiance with this issue and how to fix it?
my 24 fired up on the second pull. Wawa 89 ethanol free Pennzoil twc3 two stroke oil. only issue was no load voltage was 141. I adjusted the gov down and stuck a 60 watt load on it. then I mowed the lawn. checked the Genny and voltage was way down had to adjust it back up. now I've got it. o load 127 and 120 with load.
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Two stroke oil is two stroke oil it shouldn't really matter.
@@chivosadventures8171 . . . that is incorrect . there is definitely different levels of quality in oils . . . especially 2 stroke .
@@pappy451
What are the differences? We used to use just regular old motor oil in our two stroke dirt bikes and mopeds when we were kids of course this was like a million years ago.
@@chivosadventures8171 . . . just in the way they are made . but i will tell you i did the same as you . in my old yamaha 360 . but they are different . one is made to burn , the other to lubricate . both will burn , but one is specifically designed to burn while the other is designed to resist burning ( from friction and engine heat ) , but yes , it does burn .
@@pappy451
Aren't they all supposed to burn? after all we do use them in internal combustion engines?
Man I cannot hear a word you are saying
i ran my blue chicago electric one into the ground during hurricane sandy. was replaced with a red storm cat. that one finally bit the dust. been very pleased with them actually, i've run them hard and they are super cheap. i was about to get a tailgator but then saw that Costco is selling a similar looking generator, albeit slightly larger, about 5 lbs heavier, but.... it's 4 stroke!! it's made by Firman and is $149.99 right now. it's also more powerful, 1000W running. i decided to order one of those. i'll report back on my findings
+jgg204 please do. I'd like to see that generator.
costco went OOS. didn't get a chance to buy one!
I bought one today and I got the numbers backwards I bought the 63025! Lol. They didn’t have the 63024.
I got the last '24' at my local harbor freight, been slowly breaking it's first 25 hours on small things like a 300 watt bulb or a small drill, then when that's over I'll push it to it's rated limits!
I just bought a 63025 and it has the thin rim around the top the the old "worse one" but has the clean nice casting of the new "better one" are they mixing parts now? Also mine didn't come with a mixing up. Has the old style pull handle and the new red gas fill ring.
+L Wolf The flashing on the end cap varies from bad to better on both models. The mixing cup should have been separately packaged in the box of the 25, but they regularly forget to put in items. All 25s should have the red ring. Have you ran it yet?
+Leslie B From my experience with these things you're good to go if they make it through the first 10 hours. I wouldn't worry too much about getting the 25 over the 24. They newer versions seem to have more quality control than in the past. Thanks for commenting.
+Leslie B If Duromax wants to send me one I'll be happy to put it through some testing :)
+Leslie B Alabama. The place where humidity comes to retire.
The cosmetic differences have nothing to do with reliability. If they were made to the same specs, they should be the same. It's a crap shoot.
Got a LG gas one is much better
Just picked up the only 63024 in the store. They had about 10 of the 63025. Thanks for heads up.
You keep changing numbers far as which is which...
+Aaron B I think I did accidentally reverse them once during the video. The 24 is the model I recommend, though the overall quality is nearly equal on the two models now.
It was more than once. I'm now leaving this video more confused than when I got here...
Yikes! What a mess. You should have put a post it note on them with the numbers so you could keep them straight.
Please clarify which model number is the one to get.
They are both of equal quality now
Can these be used for charging up an RV battery while camping?
I have a red one and a green one not sure of the numbers but they both work fine. Key is proper breakin and not to over load them. Take care of your tools no matter how much they cost. Been using them for off road races for last 4 years even loaned one to a race fan who's motor home gen took a sh*t, they needed to make coffee and run some lights. Nothing major in return he gave me a 100 foot heavy cord.
you were flip-flopping and the other guys asking about mixing the gas mix it in a can then pour it in Old Pro I ride a Honda CR500 but I only use VP fuel but gas applies the same
this was very helpful. i will ckheck the product number carefully. thanks
Very confusing. Why did the two models get flipped from side to side vs the boxes in the opening shot?
Oh my God this video
other than being picky on spark plug cleanliness my rig cut lucabond with a 4amp angle grinder like hot knife through butter . then drove screws to attach same to house under pinning all the same time running a fan for our comfort (did change spark cap to NGK type cap better for the inspection and service of plug cleaning at three tank fulls verry good value)
Neither come with a 12v charging cable? If not the Amazon one seems better.
I just bought the TailGator. I put about 16 oz of Trufuel 50:1 into the tank and I must have tried 50 pulls with the choke on and off. I pulled out the spark pull to make sure that it was getting spark. After a few more tried it would start up but then die. If I would let it sit for a 20 seconds, it would start up again and die. I then put the full 32 oz of fuel in and it then started running. I let it run for about 30 minutes with no load and then I was going to put a light load on it for another 30 minutes. I was using a fan for the load. Probably under 300 watts. But once I put the fan on it ran for about 60 seconds then died. I started back up and it died again after a few seconds. The next time I started up and it started to die, I put on the choke and it started running again but I believe it eventually died. I can open up gas cap and I can see gas right below the screen. It seems like it is not able to get enough gas. Any ideas before I return it and maybe try another one? If it had something to do with spark plug I don't see how turning on choke would make it run better. And after running for 30 minutes, adding choke should not make it run better. Thoughts anyone?
My advise would be to take it back and get one you don’t have to fight to keep running. In my experience it’s not worth the hassle or worry when you can swap it for one that works properly out of the box.
who care what they look like all that matters is how they run
63024 is the one!
I would just spend the extra money and get a real one haha
I have the 60324
Woohoo, I feel like Snoopy dancing with glee. I bought the 24. Woohoo.
How about you stop talking and start the thing and see how it works we get it you know what the technical words are what a waste of time
Just bought the 04 model,should I purchase a warranty?
So, what are you going to do with all those hunks of crap?!
The decision was kind of made for me. The 63024 is all that is available at my local Harbor Freight. I had to pick through the pile as most of the boxes looked like someone ran a forklift into them. I needed something to put a charge into a jump starter to run a CPAP in power outage situations and camping. This should do the trick!
I have a cpap machine too. I was thinking about getting a 12 volt lithium battery and a power inverter for power outages. The only downside is the cost as the Tailgater is much cheaper. The upside is you don't have to run extention cords because it's inside, and you don't have to worry about someone stealing the generator while you're sleeping.