That’s the greenest western Sydney in summer has been in years - used to live there and golden grass was the colour normally, it looks VERY different! But beautiful!
The whole terminal and aerobridge infrastructure just looks way too small to start with. How many flights can be handled at once considering this is a major international and domestic airport. How will it work from the off?
@@fatdoi003 There are actually 13 airbridges plus there will be several hard stand gates (same as Sydney for REX) so the number of gates will be up to 20. The airport will be the same size as Adelaide which handles 7.9 million passengers annually.
My guess is 5 minutes after it opens they will start work on stage 2 of the terminal. It might look small from the air but it will be able to process 7-8 million passengers per year. That's 20,000 per day.
What is your problem dude? The capacity of this airport is 10million as is, with the second half completed as demand grows. Why build a second runway until needed? If they did I'm sure you'd complain about it being a massive white elephant. It's got a 30 year development schedule ffs. Oh, that's right - build a 50m capacity airport in the middle of nowhere and wait 30 years for it to be needed. Glad you don't plan Sydney's infrastructure.
Melbourne airport handles 60 - 70% of the passengers that Sydney does, and they have a main runway and a cross runway. Equivalent to maybe 1.4 parallel runways? WSI will do just fine with one runway for many years.
If only Kingsford Smith's curfew was lifted. $$$ saved. After all, Kingsford Smith is considered to be the world's longest continuously operating airport, way before residential buildings popped up in surrounding suburbs.
Sydney Airport started operating in 1920 and is now 104 years old. While its true that air traffic with noisy jet aircraft like the 737,727,707,DC8 & VC10 increased in the 1960s and 70s by the early 1990s new airliners had relatively quiet engines and all of these aircraft are retired. Any aircraft that is less than 20 years old is very quiet, especially on landing. -To summarize there is now little need for curfews. -I would immediately lift the 11pm curfew on international flights and flights from WA for landing and extend the time till 12pm with only small fines for being only 40 minutes late.
I understand there are more gates (or should I call them "stands"..but access via a bus, similar to at Melbourne. As it grows I suppose they will make more aerobridges
@@MaxS-hn8we The obvious demand is evident. The amount of traffic that is sent their way to alleviate congestion at Sydney is way too much for this so called International airport to handle. The Government will make a big fanfare years into the future announcing another runway when it should have been constructed at this moment
www.westernsydneyairport.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/wsa-plan-2021.pdf Scroll down to about page 20. Diagrams of airport layout showing parallel runways.
Here we go again! “ will” In other words no idea or way into the future unless there is a catastrophic accident due to lack of construction to match the obvious present urgent need let alone the future
The car spaces are well and truly underestimated . Opening day alone ,How will the Airport cope with parking for the crowds. Not all will travel by trains that are only 3 carriages in size. A lot of desire for as much green as possible but truly the planners don`t fly that much. Mascot earns a billion dollars plus a year from it`s car parks so it has been said, will WSI turn it`s back on a Billion dollar plus profits ? Intentions are very good and respected but open their minds and face reality .
you're joking, right? They should build car parking to cater for the opening day crowds?? And they should build car parks not based on passenger requirements, but to grab revenue? Stage 1 will have 11,500 car spaces. Long term plans, as the airport grows and when it becomes a two runway operation, the plans call for 70,000. That's extremely unlikely. The existing airport only has about 16,000 split between domestic, international and long term. Remember, it is a SECOND airport, served by a high speed metro with more capacity than the existing airport line. Parking will not be a concern, ever. As for "the planners don't fly that much", yeah, sure, they've go no idea about this airport that has been more than a decade in the planning. Here's the easy-to-read public guidelines. Take a look and tell me they're a bunch of greenie dreamers. www.westernsydneyairport.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/wsa-plan-2021.pdf
@@zizhiqu The government has stuffed the public transport to this airport.. "jet " buses from Liverpool ,Campbelltown ? etc NOONE will use those they are absolute mockery. Who will be lugging their luggage on an old bus that takes a hour for a 15 minute drive? The metro takes the long way around back into Sydney via Parramatta and you must change from light to heavy .The car parkings will be in hot demand, all locals will drive to the airport.
@@zizhiqu As a retired Cabbie that use to service Mascot , One A330-300 or alike can easily absorb 300 taxis Alas , what if two or more planes are docking near the same time . A 24 hour airport will need ranking for at least 500 taxis at any given time and domestic peak will require even more. The Taxi holding should be capable of holding at least a thousand taxis. If I had my way the taxis would all be 7 seater maxis minimum capacity with some up to 15 seat capacity .
While it looks like 7 'gates', there is actually 13 Aerobridges....allowing 13 planes to park and load all at once! Then there is more likely several bays for smaller planes to park and load with stair access. Every airport have these, Even Mascot and Tullamarine!
You mean “ will be built” Without a plane being landed planners knew that the demand will be overwhelming and planes and passengers will be diverted back to Sydney
Why is this new airport for the future not 2 runways? No space has been allocated, even if it wasn't built now. With 50 years of planning I am a flabbergasted tax payer at the lack of foresight.
I still prefer the cattle paddock's that were there before.Would have been 10 time's cheaper and easier to build another runway at Kingsford Smith .Some sleazy palm's where greased with that Airport.
Many people, who are also voters, are not going to be happy with a no curfew airport in their neighbourhood. Please government ... Liberal or Labor .... legislate a curfew and you will win some extra votes.If you don't you will lose many. To be fair and just, people of the west deserve the same as people near the other airport.
Screw the selfish nimby. Aircraft are no longer noisy and haven't been for 20 years so there is no reason for curfew on the latest generation of aircraft to pander to people with OCD. If you are an Australian flying from say Perth you can't leave in the afternoon because of timezone and because you hit curfew. Likewise for international passengers transiting via the middle east or Africa. You are forced into early flights or horrific red eye flights. Furthermore the airport will bring work into the area as well as productivity for the country. You know productivity that gives us jobs, healthcare and pensions? If people can't handle the city they should move to the country.
Nice aerials of the site!
Those Solar Panels look like hail storm heaven...
And hailstorms ain't unknown in western Sydney.
That’s the greenest western Sydney in summer has been in years - used to live there and golden grass was the colour normally, it looks VERY different! But beautiful!
I was just thinking the same thing. Right now that area is as brown as.
Hope parking will be a bit cheaper than Sydney
The whole terminal and aerobridge infrastructure just looks way too small to start with. How many flights can be handled at once considering this is a major international and domestic airport. How will it work from the off?
after more than 40 years just for a 7 gates airport
@@fatdoi003 There are actually 13 airbridges plus there will be several hard stand gates (same as Sydney for REX) so the number of gates will be up to 20. The airport will be the same size as Adelaide which handles 7.9 million passengers annually.
My guess is 5 minutes after it opens they will start work on stage 2 of the terminal. It might look small from the air but it will be able to process 7-8 million passengers per year. That's 20,000 per day.
Just note, locals tell me that despite the official name, it is referred to as Badgerys Creek airport.
Why only one aerobridge at the northern(?) end? All the others have two.
cause thats the domestic side, the other side is international
$15B but can't afford a cross runway?
Progress update?
Have they built the second runway yet?
they doing it like later idk
What is your problem dude? The capacity of this airport is 10million as is, with the second half completed as demand grows. Why build a second runway until needed? If they did I'm sure you'd complain about it being a massive white elephant. It's got a 30 year development schedule ffs. Oh, that's right - build a 50m capacity airport in the middle of nowhere and wait 30 years for it to be needed. Glad you don't plan Sydney's infrastructure.
What, since this video was shot? Your comment is 2 days after the video was posted.
Melbourne airport handles 60 - 70% of the passengers that Sydney does, and they have a main runway and a cross runway. Equivalent to maybe 1.4 parallel runways? WSI will do just fine with one runway for many years.
with only 7 planes..... the traffic's too small for another runway.....
If only Kingsford Smith's curfew was lifted. $$$ saved. After all, Kingsford Smith is considered to be the world's longest continuously operating airport, way before residential buildings popped up in surrounding suburbs.
Sydney Airport started operating in 1920 and is now 104 years old. While its true that air traffic with noisy jet aircraft like the 737,727,707,DC8 & VC10 increased in the 1960s and 70s by the early 1990s new airliners had relatively quiet engines and all of these aircraft are retired. Any aircraft that is less than 20 years old is very quiet, especially on landing.
-To summarize there is now little need for curfews.
-I would immediately lift the 11pm curfew on international flights and flights from WA for landing and extend the time till 12pm with only small fines for being only 40 minutes late.
Looks like a small country airport with one runway and 7 boarding gates, not much for a second airport to Sydney,
I understand there are more gates (or should I call them "stands"..but access via a bus, similar to at Melbourne. As it grows I suppose they will make more aerobridges
I thought so too until I saw it in person.
It’s not finished yet. A second runway and three more terminals will be added as demand grows.
@@MaxS-hn8we
The obvious demand is evident.
The amount of traffic that is sent their way to alleviate congestion at Sydney is way too much for this so called International airport to handle.
The Government will make a big fanfare years into the future announcing another runway when it should have been constructed at this moment
So, the carpark on the north side of the Airport is where teh 2nd Runway gonna be?
I am not sure. I would imagine it will be further to the south in all the green space below the Sydney Metro Station is my guess. Sorry
www.westernsydneyairport.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/wsa-plan-2021.pdf
Scroll down to about page 20. Diagrams of airport layout showing parallel runways.
It will be parallel to the existing runway but on the other side of the terminal. They have a good visitor centre with all the details, near Luddenum.
Here we go again! “ will”
In other words no idea or way into the future unless there is a catastrophic accident due to lack of construction to match the obvious present urgent need let alone the future
Is there one or are there two runways. In only one direction. Mascot has more runways than you can poke a stick at. This thing is not going to work.
1 runway cargo airport, nothing more, nothing less.
The car spaces are well and truly underestimated . Opening day alone ,How will the Airport cope with parking for the crowds. Not all will travel by trains that are only 3 carriages in size. A lot of desire for as much green as possible but truly the planners don`t fly that much. Mascot earns a billion dollars plus a year from it`s car parks so it has been said, will WSI turn it`s back on a Billion dollar plus profits ? Intentions are very good and respected but open their minds and face reality .
you're joking, right? They should build car parking to cater for the opening day crowds?? And they should build car parks not based on passenger requirements, but to grab revenue? Stage 1 will have 11,500 car spaces. Long term plans, as the airport grows and when it becomes a two runway operation, the plans call for 70,000. That's extremely unlikely. The existing airport only has about 16,000 split between domestic, international and long term.
Remember, it is a SECOND airport, served by a high speed metro with more capacity than the existing airport line. Parking will not be a concern, ever.
As for "the planners don't fly that much", yeah, sure, they've go no idea about this airport that has been more than a decade in the planning. Here's the easy-to-read public guidelines. Take a look and tell me they're a bunch of greenie dreamers.
www.westernsydneyairport.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/wsa-plan-2021.pdf
@@zizhiqu The government has stuffed the public transport to this airport.. "jet " buses from Liverpool ,Campbelltown ? etc NOONE will use those they are absolute mockery. Who will be lugging their luggage on an old bus that takes a hour for a 15 minute drive? The metro takes the long way around back into Sydney via Parramatta and you must change from light to heavy .The car parkings will be in hot demand, all locals will drive to the airport.
@@zizhiqu As a retired Cabbie that use to service Mascot , One A330-300 or alike can easily absorb 300 taxis Alas , what if two or more planes are docking near the same time . A 24 hour airport will need ranking for at least 500 taxis at any given time and domestic peak will require even more. The Taxi holding should be capable of holding at least a thousand taxis. If I had my way the taxis would all be 7 seater maxis minimum capacity with some up to 15 seat capacity .
@@ronvorbach1464how does a 737 absorb 300 taxis when it seats 174 people?
@@nickwaller3823i was scratching my head over that one too!!
so after more than 40 years just for a 7 gates airport??
While it looks like 7 'gates', there is actually 13 Aerobridges....allowing 13 planes to park and load all at once! Then there is more likely several bays for smaller planes to park and load with stair access. Every airport have these, Even Mascot and Tullamarine!
It’s a shame this airport is going to be better than the terrible one in mascot.
0/10 for design. 10/10 for boring.
Where is the 2nd runway? Or is this one of those 'we will build it later when it costs twice as much as it does now' jobbies...?
A second runway and three more terminals are being built as passenger numbers grow.
You mean “ will be built”
Without a plane being landed planners knew that the demand will be overwhelming and planes and passengers will be diverted back to Sydney
Great views ! Hopefully this will have more than one runway? May as well make 3 while they are at it :P
Why is this new airport for the future not 2 runways?
No space has been allocated, even if it wasn't built now.
With 50 years of planning I am a flabbergasted tax payer at the lack of foresight.
Because we don't need 2 runways right now. And there's plenty of space allocated - all you have to do is google a freaking map ffs.
About smaller than I expected. Only one runway too. That car park is a _severe_ underestimation. Who designed this?
Sorry. $5B.
I still prefer the cattle paddock's that were there before.Would have been 10 time's cheaper and easier to build another runway at Kingsford Smith .Some sleazy palm's where greased with that Airport.
As has been said multiple times for over a decade - there is no ROOM to build another runway at Mascot. Every Sydney resident knows this.
Many people, who are also voters, are not going to be happy with a no curfew airport in their neighbourhood. Please government ... Liberal or Labor .... legislate a curfew and you will win some extra votes.If you don't you will lose many. To be fair and just, people of the west deserve the same as people near the other airport.
Screw the selfish nimby. Aircraft are no longer noisy and haven't been for 20 years so there is no reason for curfew on the latest generation of aircraft to pander to people with OCD. If you are an Australian flying from say Perth you can't leave in the afternoon because of timezone and because you hit curfew. Likewise for international passengers transiting via the middle east or Africa. You are forced into early flights or horrific red eye flights.
Furthermore the airport will bring work into the area as well as productivity for the country. You know productivity that gives us jobs, healthcare and pensions? If people can't handle the city they should move to the country.
When this Airport is finished no one will be able to afford to go anywhere the World economy is going down fast 🔥💲🔥
Progress update?
Have they built the second runway yet?