THEY REVERTED THE NERFS? (Not Exactly) | BM's Rollercoaster Ride Continues

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  • @Azortharion
    @Azortharion  23 дні тому +21

    UPDATE: The changes are now properly in and it appears the nerfs are closer to 2-3% ST nerf, while the AoE buff is 1% stronger. Doesn't change my conclusions in a major way, but there you go.
    The bolded line #3 of my document is incorrect and should say "all damage done by you and your pets increased by 8%", not pets and summons.
    At one point in the video, I say that BM is 5-10% behind the other specs on ST. That number is really more like 3-7% (the lower end being if MM runs Dark Ranger, and the higher being if it runs Sentinel).

    • @Sangomah
      @Sangomah 22 дні тому

      Recommend pinning this if you can. I wrote an answer to the vid before seeing this. (Deleted it to not create confusion)

    • @ech3longames
      @ech3longames 21 день тому

      Thanks for this breakdown! The ST build on IcyVeins still has two points in Basilisk Collar. Is that intended?

    • @Azortharion
      @Azortharion  21 день тому +1

      @@ech3longames yep. Guides can be updated, videos can't!

    • @ech3longames
      @ech3longames 20 днів тому

      @@Azortharion Thanks!

  • @ourovermelho23
    @ourovermelho23 23 дні тому +31

    You out here doing God’s work for us hunters thanks Azor❤

    • @Maha-gx4zm
      @Maha-gx4zm 22 дні тому

      god doesnot play wow so shut up

  • @peterappeldoorn6695
    @peterappeldoorn6695 23 дні тому +8

    9 oktober:
     Basilisk Collar damage bonus per damage over time effect reduced to 2%/4% (was 5%/10%).
     Kill Command damage increased by 18%.
     All damage dealt by you and your pet’s abilities increased by 8%.
     Developers’ notes: We’ve corrected an issue with the Beast Mastery changes which previously excluded the baseline aura buff for both the Hunter and their pets. We’ve also adjusted the values for the baseline buff up, to better reach our target goals. Our intended tuning change for Beast Mastery is intended to be relatively neutral for single target, while increasing AoE performance, which was behind where it should be.
    25 september:
     Beast Cleave damage increased to 90% (was 80%).
     Kill Cleave damage increased to 90% (was 80%).
    These are all the changes we got/get in TWW and we are still 35% behind on AOE (pathetic). We have been doing bad on AOE after the prepatch hit.
    One whole month we cant attend any M+ because of this bad AOE. If they keep going on like this we will be okay AOE wise in........
    I have absolutly no confidence in DEVS anymore. 11.0.5 is not gonna bring what we want, at least i dont believe that

  • @phurygaming3347
    @phurygaming3347 23 дні тому +5

    I don't mind doing less damage until 11.0.5. I do think the changes to Basilik Collar was a bit heavy handed. I think changing from 5/10% it could have changed to 4/8%.

  • @tehFau
    @tehFau 22 дні тому +1

    Thanks for this recap Azor! Super grateful to have it broken down! And yeah, clearly, a lot more work needs to go in our spec huh?

  • @jmv2015
    @jmv2015 23 дні тому +4

    Thank you for your time explaining.

  • @TheOmegaSupereme
    @TheOmegaSupereme 23 дні тому +27

    If BM needs a ST nerf. Then why is mage left untouched?

    • @romerus6087
      @romerus6087 23 дні тому +16

      lol, mages aren't untouched, they'll receive some buffs ok.

    • @canwestop
      @canwestop 23 дні тому +6

      @@romerus6087 Yeah come on now, mages will always get attention.

    • @TheOmegaSupereme
      @TheOmegaSupereme 23 дні тому

      Not to the hero talents that count.​@@romerus6087

    • @canwestop
      @canwestop 23 дні тому

      @@isca141 Honestly you're right, I just wanna play BM in raid and blast without thinking of them.

    • @Qerleen
      @Qerleen 23 дні тому

      New to the game?

  • @jorg17h
    @jorg17h 23 дні тому +17

    Blizzard is realy something, those guys litteraly must honestly believe that if you buff 95 by 5% it becomes 100, i swear they need to go back to highschool.

    • @KostasDalas
      @KostasDalas 23 дні тому +2

      Actually, that was always the case with Bliz buff 95% by 5% and it becomes 100%. They use % on a standard base of the spell and when they say buff or nerf by X% they mean X% on that base and not on current dmg of the spell. At least that's what I think they are doing.

    • @Maha-gx4zm
      @Maha-gx4zm 22 дні тому

      why dont you make your own game then smarty pant

    • @jorg17h
      @jorg17h 22 дні тому

      @@Maha-gx4zm I m a few million dollars short genius

    • @oscargallman4178
      @oscargallman4178 18 днів тому

      @@Maha-gx4zmlogic

  • @palfotta
    @palfotta 23 дні тому +3

    This is what you can expect if you play with lesser classes. In world of lovecraft LOVE stands for Rogues and Mages, not for others.

  • @lovelywaz
    @lovelywaz 23 дні тому +4

    Looks like BM Hunters will be above Tanks in AoE outside of their 2 mins CD. Yay! A win? 🥳🥳

  • @josephandrees5381
    @josephandrees5381 23 дні тому +3

    Definitely like the direction theyre going. Basilisk collar had to change and this lets them see how the basilisk collar tuning affects us

    • @morgenmuffel5747
      @morgenmuffel5747 23 дні тому +3

      There was zero need to release the Basilisk Collar nerf ahead of the 11.0.5 changes. The changes coming this reset still leave BM unviable in mid to high keys while nerfing us in raid when we were far from the strongest dps to begin with

  • @the_udmurt
    @the_udmurt 21 день тому

    It will never stop amaze me how blizzard likes to break things that work and didn't need changes

  • @snuggles3277
    @snuggles3277 22 дні тому

    BM hunter is the ultimate proof that blizzard have no idea what is going on

  • @emarcoscr
    @emarcoscr 22 дні тому

    Nah, another month of farming. Thanks for your work.

  • @TheRealCHIMShady
    @TheRealCHIMShady 23 дні тому

    Blizzard balance seems cooked until you realize its all based on if a dev got smoked by a certain class/spec that week in their keys/bgs

  • @fernandoa.6678
    @fernandoa.6678 23 дні тому

    thank you for your time for explain

  • @mikkelkristensen3841
    @mikkelkristensen3841 23 дні тому

    I quess we have to see the final spec and Numbers live in 11.0.5 to determain wether bm will be able to compete. I have my doubts, thx alot for the numbers. For sure blizzard Saw your video. Lf to see your talent changes after this.

  • @justbart7615
    @justbart7615 23 дні тому

    Fingers crossed for patch 11.0.5 I guess

  • @JoSh25Sin
    @JoSh25Sin 22 дні тому

    So we expect a nerf BM ST dmg of 5% ish?
    And what % buff for BM aoe?
    Thx for reply

    • @shianova
      @shianova 22 дні тому

      He said it in the video, 14%

    • @ScorpionP2C
      @ScorpionP2C 21 день тому

      read the pin, its about 1%

  • @Meldan749
    @Meldan749 23 дні тому

    ST should be untouched. It's the only viable aspect of the spec. NO reason to nerf it.
    The AOE buff should probably be 2-3 x higher.

  • @Andyhaz1
    @Andyhaz1 23 дні тому

    F you got the Rogue treatment.

  • @tobanzi
    @tobanzi 23 дні тому

    I just wish if I was having to switch my single target that you wouldn't lose so much damage. Like it's better for me to just focus bloodbound horror on heroic bc if i switch to adds I just lose so much dmg

  • @Dumbmelee
    @Dumbmelee 23 дні тому +1

    🐐

  • @Akunza
    @Akunza 17 днів тому

    Still can't get into 10s or even complete a 10 I am 3rd in damage compared to the FOTM dps I group with and some tanks won't take me cause of my Spec lmao

  • @Chuckles540
    @Chuckles540 23 дні тому

    do you plan to switch to mm next week Azor?

    • @Azortharion
      @Azortharion  23 дні тому +3

      I will continue to play whatever is best for the content I am doing in any given moment. Next week will be Nexus Princess (BM) into SIlken COurt (MM) and probably some M+ (also MM).

    • @rickyjustus
      @rickyjustus 23 дні тому

      @@Azortharion You mentioned that the Dark Ranger changes on 11.0.5 will make BM better in AOE, but don't those changes also apply to MM, so won't the distance between them remain?

    • @Azortharion
      @Azortharion  23 дні тому +1

      ​@@rickyjustusMM currently plays Sentinel on AoE, which BM doesn't have

  • @dmoney5474
    @dmoney5474 23 дні тому

    What about it saying all damage done increased by 8% along with the pet and summons 8 percent?

    • @Azortharion
      @Azortharion  23 дні тому +1

      It doesn't, those are old patch notes before they revised them.

  • @hvdiv17
    @hvdiv17 21 день тому

    retail wow is the worst balanced mmo i have ever seen.

  • @12Beastn
    @12Beastn 23 дні тому

    Still refusing to even bring up SV hunters... SMH

    • @Azortharion
      @Azortharion  23 дні тому +1

      In a video about BM changes, I didn't bring up SV changes because there were none. I must be an SV hater.

    • @12Beastn
      @12Beastn 23 дні тому

      @@Azortharion LOL In my defense I'd put it on the SV video... but I can't seem to find any :S

    • @Azortharion
      @Azortharion  22 дні тому +1

      @@12Beastn I cover SV the exact same as BM and MM in my overview videos. It's just that there's less to cover, because it is receiving fewer changes. I think your problem is with John Blizzard, not me.

    • @12Beastn
      @12Beastn 22 дні тому

      @@Azortharion you ain't lying

  • @Piotr.nawara1
    @Piotr.nawara1 23 дні тому +1

    this is the price bm hunters are paying for 3 button rotation

    • @Qerleen
      @Qerleen 23 дні тому +2

      So you only play with half a rotation?

    • @TrueMarcaBlanca
      @TrueMarcaBlanca 23 дні тому +3

      Well mm has even less buttons xd

    • @curtharakaly4620
      @curtharakaly4620 22 дні тому +1

      3 button rotation? So you mean Ret, Ele, Fire Mage, Arcane mage, Dk, Warrior and just about every other dps spec in the game right?

    • @shianova
      @shianova 22 дні тому

      This is the old saying that BM is easy, have you played any other specs, BM is about as easy as 80% of the specs in this game

  • @elgar7252
    @elgar7252 23 дні тому +4

    I don't mind if BM gets closer to MM, but I'd really be disappointed if BM is once again topping MM in M+. It always feels like you HAVE to play BM to do higher keys as a Hunter, and loving MM, I hate playing it. I really hope MM gets to stay more 'meta' as far as Hunters go, even though the entire class isn't even remotely close to meta for M+

    • @dilios4026
      @dilios4026 23 дні тому +1

      why would u want that? when mm has very shit single target and is by far the squishiest spec out of all 3. i'd rather play surv than to play mm in m+

    • @Azortharion
      @Azortharion  23 дні тому +2

      ​@@dilios4026 MM has the best single-target of all the Hunter specs.

    • @aleksavukotic1511
      @aleksavukotic1511 23 дні тому

      ​@@Azortharion then i must be playing it wrong then, guide for st rotation?

    • @Azortharion
      @Azortharion  22 дні тому

      @@aleksavukotic1511 Here you go. www.icy-veins.com/wow/marksmanship-hunter-pve-dps-rotation-cooldowns-abilities

    • @shianova
      @shianova 22 дні тому

      BM is the most played hunter spec by a large margin, that's why they are looked at more than the 2 other specs usually

  • @asun1419
    @asun1419 23 дні тому

    Aren't all these changes taking place during 11.0.5????? The entirety of the changes??? Why mention it like " but what about 11.0.5" or what am I missing here.

    • @Archi89
      @Archi89 23 дні тому +1

      These changes are coming today/tomorrow

  • @gergs5110
    @gergs5110 23 дні тому

    I think they increase all player damage by 8%?

  • @etzu_gaming4779
    @etzu_gaming4779 23 дні тому +1

    You see the picture wrong, play with a good BM hunter in +11 and +12 keys, and they will own. The prob is, that 75% of hunter player are just casual players ans not really " good " at the game.. in terms of dealing DMG, how much of you are good at multi doting BS? Managing the placement of pets in aoe... As a bm you also deal full dmg while moving.. in high keys you have to move!! Or u die so you will do " less '" perfect Targetdummy dmg but that doesn't count for bm.. ull see bm rising high

    • @Azortharion
      @Azortharion  23 дні тому +16

      lol

    • @Qerleen
      @Qerleen 23 дні тому

      Here's a secret: Bm "owns" you because your terrible. That is all.

    • @georgeb1298
      @georgeb1298 23 дні тому

      Right...

    • @ritchy3875
      @ritchy3875 22 дні тому +1

      You're going to get flamed for posting that on a BM hunter video but you're right, most bad players gravitate towards BM for sure. The meme is "hunter brain" for a reason.

    • @Azortharion
      @Azortharion  22 дні тому +2

      @@ritchy3875 Even if it's true, it's completely irrelevant to anything or anyone, let alone this video.