Getting marry part is easy. Just don’t over spend or don’t have a wedding at all and just sign a marriage certificate. Having a child is a big financial burdens
The media have blown it way out of proportion, lots of people getting married and having kids in Japan... Tbh it is a thing that happened in most industrialized societies, what is unique about Japan maybe is that overwork is so common, if the gov really wish to combat that, they need to increase base pay, cut overwork and give more holidays, it does not take a genius to figure that one out.
I agree with you except on the more holidays, I feel like there are a decent amount of national holidays here. Setting strict limits on maximum work times would help. みなし残業 (precalculated overtime pay) is a disease
@@hijackhypergamy if hypergamy was the root cause then developed nations would have higher birth rates than poorer nations, and you would see much higher immigration levels, you would also expect richer families to have more children, which you dont see
@@Terszel No. Because in developed nations women have the government serve as the beta bucks provider role of provisioning and protection. They don't need "men" and don't need marriage to live well. Also huge beta orbiters and simp economy on developed countries thus, fertility plummets.
In Belgium it’s similar. Starting at the age of 3 they start normal education (school) so that is free to a large extent. Before that daycare is more expensive but prices are adjusted to income. But maternity leave is only 4 months here. So you are going to have to find a way to bridge that or one of the parents will have to stop working. So the logic is that education is free but day care is not technically education yet.
I live in Japan for 7 years and I truly believe the root of this issue is on dating culture. For the average japanese man, marriage is not interesting. The japanese men saw their fathers going through a sexless marriage living on okozukai. They decided they don't want it for themselves. And of course, a man cannot say 'I don't want to get married' because that is not socially acceptable, so they just don't pursue it. They enjoy their hobbies and single life. A good point to prove this is the fact that the foreigner couple in Japan, even having lower income and less access to governmental help, have more kids compared to japanese couples. Of course, financially speaking, having a kid is a hard path to choose, but it is not the root cause.
I'm not sure I agree with that, but thank you for your viewpoint! Like you, I don't think money is the primary reason. I think the logistics of dating are more of the issue. If you ask one of these men who is isolated and focused on his hobbies if he is interested in getting a girlfriend, he would likely say yes. And once dating, he would probably be open to the idea of marriage. The financial and social logistics of getting married are a barrier, but you can not easily convince me that most people would rather not date someone.
@@william_in_japan It's likely a combination of reasons contributing to the issue. The preferences will vary from person to person obviously, but below are some trends. Increased Access to Pornography and Services(Both digital and physical in Japan) Changing Attitudes Toward Marriage and Family(Personal freedom and career over family) Economic Challenges(Weak yen, stagnant wages, and rising inflation for decades) Improved Contraception to prevent babies(Enjoy sexual freedom without the risk of making a baby) Social Isolation and Changing Relationship Dynamics(More digital, individualistic, and isolating)
“You pay them when the wedding plan is finalised” Wow that’s pretty trusting of the company! Most people I know dated for many years before marrying. I’d wonder does the matching service just wait during that time
Yeah, it’s sad child care is such a pain everywhere. In the states it’s just insane prices. In general I think the economy everywhere is taking a dump and has been. Great video btw followed so I can live vicariously through you.
Birth rates and Births outside of marriage Japan 1.26 2.4% USA 1.67 40.6% (black71%, native66%, hispanic53%, white30%, asian17%) Western countries 35-60% Which society is healthier? 😃
The abundance of substitute utilities is still the number one cause In a 3rd world country.. having a child is one of easy-to-obtain utilities whist comfort, wealth, security and more are ones which difficult to obtain,, hence higher childbirth
That's just Japan. Things could be so much better if they just tweak this one little rule (like the 3 year old thing), but no, that never happens -- not ever.
I’m living in the US in one of most expensive and richest city and I paid much less for daycare than you did. It’s insane!!! Also we absolutely don’t have any problems with options and was very picky about what daycare we want to choose for our son and they ALL had plenty of free seats.
In Seattle area, daycare here costs different. You can find small home-based ones with like 10 kids and 2 teachers for $1100-$1500. Then, right next door, there might be a big corporate like daycare with 15-20 teachers and big groups of 20-25 kids (like 3-4 groups). Those places are all about education and security, but they cost more, like $1900-$2300. So, there’s something for every budget. But in Europe, where part of my family lives, daycare is almost free 150-300$, so I still think daycares in the US are expensive.
@@aisnow5788 Sounds like one of those super expensive private daycare/kindergarten with dozens of teachers, cameras everywhere, three meals a day of restaurant food and two excursions a week.)
Japan is in one way over populated. As the population declines, many might choose to go live in the empty country side. Remember, Japan's population was about half their current size 150 years ago. They did survive to become the 2nd largest economy of the world. So all this pessimistic views about Japan is just unnecessary and an exaggeration.
I see what you're saying, but the U.S. population has doubled in just 70 years, so you have to look at the available resources and land as well. With that being said, Japan does have quite a bit less inhabitable land than you would think since it is so mountainous.
It's not just about total population, but about what % of the population is elderly, which is increasing at a huge rate. There will not be enough taxpaying workers to support these people's social benefits or provide nursing care.
this would make sense if there were more young people in japan than elderly but in reality its the complete opposite- the average age in Japan rn is 49 there's going to be an abundance of elderly people in the near future but fewer and fewer young people to take care of them. and that's assuming the young people have the means to take care of themselves and keep the lights on in the whole country too!
Interesting video. It's not money: the poorest countries and societies have the highest birth-rate. It's not overwork: previous Japanese generations worked much, much longer hours than today, and had higher birth rates. No, I think the reason is a change in cultural values: For decades, women in the west have been taught that being a homemaker means being a second-class citizen, and the only worthwhile aim in life is to emulate men and to achieve a successful career. Even the UN is mandating that more women become cabinet politicians, boardroom executives etc. Teaching women to be more like men is fine, and maybe even noble, but it does inevitably lead to lower birthrates...Don't forget that 50 years ago, the vast majority of Japanese women were housewives, and had more than 2 children. The whole culture of motherhood and large families has been eliminated in just 1 or 2 generations.
I see where you're coming from, but what I wanted to say in this video is that many Japanese women still want to be housewives but just aren't able to anymore due to economic circumstances.
@@william_in_japanin US, women take off up to elementary school and work and take care of family unlike Japanese women who want to just stay home for one child 😂
I would give you a like if you didnt say making women be like men is noble. But yes, now we wave plenty women cabinet politicians but not enough housewives.
I've never understood why people have children. Even in America, only 30% of married people have children. Why burden yourself with children unnecessarily? I'm a 77 year old American & I've never even thought about having children.
*OBVIOUSLY a BIG part of the reason japan's economy has gone downhill continuously and will continue downhill is because most japanese students for the past 15 calendar years have wanted to be managers or in marketing, and NOT engineers or scientists or anything else highly skilled (outside of the entertainment and adult entertainment industry).*
Getting marry part is easy. Just don’t over spend or don’t have a wedding at all and just sign a marriage certificate. Having a child is a big financial burdens
True getting a spouse is easy. Pay for one is easy.
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The media have blown it way out of proportion, lots of people getting married and having kids in Japan... Tbh it is a thing that happened in most industrialized societies, what is unique about Japan maybe is that overwork is so common, if the gov really wish to combat that, they need to increase base pay, cut overwork and give more holidays, it does not take a genius to figure that one out.
I agree with you except on the more holidays, I feel like there are a decent amount of national holidays here.
Setting strict limits on maximum work times would help. みなし残業 (precalculated overtime pay) is a disease
It's hypergamy pure and simple.
@@hijackhypergamy if hypergamy was the root cause then developed nations would have higher birth rates than poorer nations, and you would see much higher immigration levels, you would also expect richer families to have more children, which you dont see
@@Terszel No. Because in developed nations women have the government serve as the beta bucks provider role of provisioning and protection. They don't need "men" and don't need marriage to live well. Also huge beta orbiters and simp economy on developed countries thus, fertility plummets.
@@Terszel You clearly do not understand what hypergamy means, it would literally mean the opposite of everything you just stated.
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Thank you so much!
In Belgium it’s similar. Starting at the age of 3 they start normal education (school) so that is free to a large extent. Before that daycare is more expensive but prices are adjusted to income. But maternity leave is only 4 months here. So you are going to have to find a way to bridge that or one of the parents will have to stop working. So the logic is that education is free but day care is not technically education yet.
I live in Japan for 7 years and I truly believe the root of this issue is on dating culture. For the average japanese man, marriage is not interesting. The japanese men saw their fathers going through a sexless marriage living on okozukai. They decided they don't want it for themselves. And of course, a man cannot say 'I don't want to get married' because that is not socially acceptable, so they just don't pursue it. They enjoy their hobbies and single life.
A good point to prove this is the fact that the foreigner couple in Japan, even having lower income and less access to governmental help, have more kids compared to japanese couples.
Of course, financially speaking, having a kid is a hard path to choose, but it is not the root cause.
I'm not sure I agree with that, but thank you for your viewpoint!
Like you, I don't think money is the primary reason. I think the logistics of dating are more of the issue. If you ask one of these men who is isolated and focused on his hobbies if he is interested in getting a girlfriend, he would likely say yes. And once dating, he would probably be open to the idea of marriage. The financial and social logistics of getting married are a barrier, but you can not easily convince me that most people would rather not date someone.
@@william_in_japan It's likely a combination of reasons contributing to the issue. The preferences will vary from person to person obviously, but below are some trends.
Increased Access to Pornography and Services(Both digital and physical in Japan)
Changing Attitudes Toward Marriage and Family(Personal freedom and career over family)
Economic Challenges(Weak yen, stagnant wages, and rising inflation for decades)
Improved Contraception to prevent babies(Enjoy sexual freedom without the risk of making a baby)
Social Isolation and Changing Relationship Dynamics(More digital, individualistic, and isolating)
“You pay them when the wedding plan is finalised”
Wow that’s pretty trusting of the company! Most people I know dated for many years before marrying. I’d wonder does the matching service just wait during that time
Happy to see you moving on, head up bro.
Thank you, I appreciate it!
This sinde thing is the new subway surfers thingi
I figured people wouldn't want to just watch me the whole time 😂
I have several videos I took walking around Tokyo, so I figured I'd use them.
@@william_in_japan lol
Thanks for the video - interesting hearing people's personal experience with these things
Yeah, it’s sad child care is such a pain everywhere. In the states it’s just insane prices.
In general I think the economy everywhere is taking a dump and has been.
Great video btw followed so I can live vicariously through you.
Thank you for your comment!
Gee bro, well done! A comment of support here!
P.S.That "curtain mask" is flawless!
Thanks! I just checked out your channel. I like your vlogging style and showing interactions with Japanese people!
@@william_in_japan Oh wow! Thanks man!
Birth rates and
Births outside of marriage
Japan 1.26 2.4%
USA 1.67 40.6%
(black71%, native66%, hispanic53%, white30%, asian17%)
Western countries 35-60%
Which society is healthier? 😃
The abundance of substitute utilities is still the number one cause
In a 3rd world country.. having a child is one of easy-to-obtain utilities whist comfort, wealth, security and more are ones which difficult to obtain,, hence higher childbirth
13:08 the phrase is catch 22 btw lol
my first time using it and I missed😭
That's just Japan. Things could be so much better if they just tweak this one little rule (like the 3 year old thing), but no, that never happens -- not ever.
I think you need to have a few kids in Japan before you can really comment on this.
I have a son. How many kids do I need?
@@william_in_japan3. You need 3 before you can make any comments
I’m living in the US in one of most expensive and richest city and I paid much less for daycare than you did. It’s insane!!! Also we absolutely don’t have any problems with options and was very picky about what daycare we want to choose for our son and they ALL had plenty of free seats.
Wow, that's awesome. I thought it would be more expensive in most U.S. cities. Mind sharing what state that is in?
NYC has pretty decent daycare programs the rest of the country (and maybe japan) could learn from
Our daycare where I live is $1800 a month to $2100.
In Seattle area, daycare here costs different. You can find small home-based ones with like 10 kids and 2 teachers for $1100-$1500. Then, right next door, there might be a big corporate like daycare with 15-20 teachers and big groups of 20-25 kids (like 3-4 groups). Those places are all about education and security, but they cost more, like $1900-$2300. So, there’s something for every budget. But in Europe, where part of my family lives, daycare is almost free 150-300$, so I still think daycares in the US are expensive.
@@aisnow5788 Sounds like one of those super expensive private daycare/kindergarten with dozens of teachers, cameras everywhere, three meals a day of restaurant food and two excursions a week.)
I been going to doutors for years then one day they ask me if I want a points card ! Forgot ? Or is my color ?
What video is this comment replying to😂 Thank you for watching!
Japan is in one way over populated. As the population declines, many might choose to go live in the empty country side. Remember, Japan's population was about half their current size 150 years ago. They did survive to become the 2nd largest economy of the world. So all this pessimistic views about Japan is just unnecessary and an exaggeration.
I see what you're saying, but the U.S. population has doubled in just 70 years, so you have to look at the available resources and land as well.
With that being said, Japan does have quite a bit less inhabitable land than you would think since it is so mountainous.
It's not just about total population, but about what % of the population is elderly, which is increasing at a huge rate. There will not be enough taxpaying workers to support these people's social benefits or provide nursing care.
this would make sense if there were more young people in japan than elderly
but in reality its the complete opposite- the average age in Japan rn is 49
there's going to be an abundance of elderly people in the near future but fewer and fewer young people to take care of them. and that's assuming the young people have the means to take care of themselves and keep the lights on in the whole country too!
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Sounds quite a bit like USA
Interesting video. It's not money: the poorest countries and societies have the highest birth-rate. It's not overwork: previous Japanese generations worked much, much longer hours than today, and had higher birth rates. No, I think the reason is a change in cultural values: For decades, women in the west have been taught that being a homemaker means being a second-class citizen, and the only worthwhile aim in life is to emulate men and to achieve a successful career. Even the UN is mandating that more women become cabinet politicians, boardroom executives etc. Teaching women to be more like men is fine, and maybe even noble, but it does inevitably lead to lower birthrates...Don't forget that 50 years ago, the vast majority of Japanese women were housewives, and had more than 2 children. The whole culture of motherhood and large families has been eliminated in just 1 or 2 generations.
I see where you're coming from, but what I wanted to say in this video is that many Japanese women still want to be housewives but just aren't able to anymore due to economic circumstances.
It's hypergamy which is directly related to status. And everything the Japanese government does to "address" this makes it worse.
@@william_in_japanin US, women take off up to elementary school and work and take care of family unlike Japanese women who want to just stay home for one child 😂
I would give you a like if you didnt say making women be like men is noble. But yes, now we wave plenty women cabinet politicians but not enough housewives.
I've never understood why people have children. Even in America, only 30% of married people have children. Why burden yourself with children unnecessarily? I'm a 77 year old American & I've never even thought about having children.
*OBVIOUSLY a BIG part of the reason japan's economy has gone downhill continuously and will continue downhill is because most japanese students for the past 15 calendar years have wanted to be managers or in marketing, and NOT engineers or scientists or anything else highly skilled (outside of the entertainment and adult entertainment industry).*
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source?