Hey there! Thanks to cogmission I was informed about a mistake I made regarding flash sync speeds. I switched that up, sorry. Here it goes: A1. Mechanical shutter: 1/400th, 1/500th APS-C. Electronic shutter 1/200th. A9 II. Mechanical shutter: 1/250th. No sync with electronic shutter. Best regards to cogmission!
Hi! I love it when an enlightened person can admit mistakes - it's no big deal, so why not? There's a LOT of numbers to memorize! :-) (I have just been living for the A1 for 2 months - crazily devouring all content about it I can! Not owning it, just craving it!) Thanks so much for your hard work (and extraordinary character)! Subscribed!
At 15:20 that was. Indeed. I was just about to make a comment about that. Well done for the correction. Now that’s what we do: we make mistakes, we correct them. Easy.
Great video Mark10!!! Btw, EVERYBODY is overlooking the fact that the A1 sensor is not just a 'stacked' CMOS sensor like the A9/A9II, but a STACKED BSI (Back-side illuminated) SENSOR(!!!), which is truly a crowning achievement: combining the best of speed and dynamic range into a single unit, which for a long time just wasn't possible: you either had to go with speed and sacrifice some DR (a9II), or get great DR and image at the cost of speed (A7RIV)... truly amazing!!
To date, this is still the best, hands down review of any system components. All facts, no fluff, just concise info with simple, clear practical examples. KEEP MAKING GREAT CONTENT. This video recently lead me to compare all three in person, and purchase the A1. I'd been a Canon 5d2,3,4/1dxii user for over a decade. The following points were deciding factors. A1- The viewfinder, focus, file size and physical handling surpass any other stills body by a factor of two. Literally. A1- The "8K capability" is a phrase that editors and compositors love, clients brag about, and provides the ability to shoot slightly wider, knowing you can punch in or recompose in post. It's like shooting with a b-camera on a tighter lens at all times, which is incredible. A1- The ability to carry one body for both commercial production level video and stills is huge. My backup is a ZVE10, and I've only used it for a bit of B-roll, or when the A1 was at risk of physical damage from falling off a rig or similar. A7Siii- Price. At $4500 here in Canada, you can buy two, or one with $4000 in extra glass, but the requirement to have a designated 30MP stills body was prohibitive A9ii- Price. They're on the used market at $3400 CDN, but the viewfinder is on par with older mirrorless cameras in the $600 range, which kills it, imho. The requirement to have a designated video body, with all the capabilities of the A7sii or iii, was again, illogical. At the end of the day, the combination of the video and stills capabilities won out, and I went for the A1 with a ZEV10 backup, and have now ordered a second. The camera paid for itself within the first three jobs it was used on, without a doubt. (Of note, if you can fined a used Leica Summicron 50mm and a good adaptor, I'm telling you its like having a 100mp Hassleblad that shoots video like a Sony cinema camera).
I have literally spent days watching A1 reviews on youtube and this is by far the most informative and complete one.. Thank you so much for taking the time to create this!
The best review I've ever watched, my man! I love the format. I usually stay away from reviews that compare 3 products because I find them not as comprehensive and can't effectively compare the 3 different sets of features. Your review was a first. Comparing the A7sIII with the A1 was so good, anything you said about the A9II was so clear and you didn't have to mentions the a7SII anymore! Great work! I'm subscribed :)
Great job on that review, nicely structured, professional presentation (technically & how everything was presented) and making the right comparisons (Sony A7s iii and Sony A9 ii which the camera both tops and somewhat combines, you could also compare it to the A7R iv for detail but that has been covered in some other videos and technically in terms of AF, video etc it's not needed). One thing which is hard to film but would be vital to this review is at having at least one real world sample of a situation which benefits/requires/shows the difference of 120AF/AE calculations. The only person having showed that on youtube so far is Mark Galer. The comparisons in video where really nice, these real world usage comparisons are vital though since a few minutes of this video are spec comparisons which are ready available on the official Sony website. Overally well done video though.
I am on a list to get an A7IV, but right now in germany it can't be delivered.......I might be able to do such a reiew in 2022....thanks for the nice comment!:) Best regards Mark
Great review! Mechanical Shutter-Sync gets 1/400th, and 1/500th in APSC mode. Highest sync for Electronic Shutter is 1/200th. You had these reversed...
... a1: oversampling 4K footage is only available in crop mode, otherwise in FF it‘s with pixel bining. And in 8K you will see a significant rolling shutter. But you get an external oversampled 4K signal with the Ninja V (watch Gerrald Undone‘s video).
4K FF on A1 is basically the same like A7 SIII, very hard to find some differences. Super35 mode is sharper and with more detail. Rolling shutter in 8K mode is still very good, much better than old FF A7 III for example.
@@cogmission1 Yes i'know. Super 35 is sharper than normal FF mode on A7 SIII but 4K FF on A1 with pixel binning is very similar and close to A7 SIII and still you can shoot to 8K with great details.
Great video, I have been shooting with an A7s MK III in underwater caves in Florida at ISO 12,800 and the video is beautiful no noise at all. Hoping to test the A1 in the same environment soon and see how high the ISO can be pushed.
@@Mark10ProVideo actually, I really have a request Mark, would you make a depth go though for settings and it’s functionality for a Sony camera such as A1 or 9xx? I think it would be very interesting to watch it from you
Both seem fantastic! I was thinking of the new Sony A9 ii or the A1 or A7S iii. For lens, I was in a Zeiss demo center, and really liked the cp.3 cinema lenses
Sorry, a little mis-information with your Flash Information... A9II Flash Sync is 1/250 ONLY with Mechanical Shutter. No flash sync with ES. A1 you have reversed... 1/250 with ES (No other camera can do that) AND 1/400 (1/500 APS-C mode) Only with mechanical Shutter and again, no other of the competition can do that.. Also, your Viewfinder report is also incorrect. They are the same size and resolution but the A7SIII is only 120Hz refresh and the A1 is up to 240Hz.
Great review! It’s unfortunate that Sony can’t get their act together and make enough of the A1. They are sold out everywhere, and retailers have no idea of when they will be available.
That's not a Sony problem but a worldwide chip shortage and resources problem. Literally every electronics industry is affected by this. All kinds of cameras from any brand, cars, smart devices, even some home appliances etc. are hard to get right now.
True, same problem across the board though. Chip shortage. I work for a construction company that builds custom road cionstruction machines. They rely on chassis from MAN. I was shown a picture of an MAN plant with roughly 1100 chassis waiting for a single chip.
Hey brother what would you recommend for someone doing both photography and video in terms of a single camera and lens(es) if budget/cost was unlimited? So far I am thinking either Sony Alpha 1 (A1), Sony A7IV, or A7SIII . Ignore prices, I looking to buy once/cry once on most versatile camera & lens(es) setup.
Thanks! I can't afford it and I don't really need the MP count or 8k or the incredible speed. For everything I do the SIII is the perfect fit for me. Best regards Mark
yeah, one thing I really like about the Fuji camera screens is that they are just like the Sony (non-flip screens) but have that added hinge for portrait mode. Once you have a camera with that feature for portrait photography its so hard not to have it anymore (its greatly missed).
Thank you for the comparison. I have a hard time getting the colors right on the A7S3. It's very orange with WB set to match the keylight Kelvin unless I adjust the color offset all the way to the left. The A1 is super-expensive for a non-pro, but I am so tempted. I've been mainly shooting talking head videos with A7S3. Any insights/suggestions are appreciated.
XRite color checker passport video. I always take one with me. Super simple, exact white balance and magenta green shift correction. Then from there I use WB creatively If I don't like the look.
... the speed (fps) has no(!) influence on the buffer capacity, as it is misunderstood here in the video - 30 fps or 20 fps, it‘s of cause the same capacity Correct is: JPEG Extra Fine L: 182 images, JPEG Fine L: 400 images, JPEG Standard L: 400 images, RAW: 238 images, RAW and JPG: 192 images, RAW (Lossless Compression): 96 images, RAW (Lossless Compression) and JPG : 83 images, RAW (uncompressed): 82 images, RAW (uncompressed) and JPG: 78 images
Thank you Mark for your review one question though; regarding recording video in APSc mode in both the A1 and A7 S iii, no one is talking much in detail about that. Maybe it's possible on the A1 because of the high MP, but what about the quality, for both cameras is 4k detail resolution still possible? please elaborate
The SIII has no 4k APS-C crop mode, like the A7III. Not enough resolution. A1 has a crop mode, but I did not have the time to test it and see how good the quality is. I assume there will be a lot of processing applied to the signal to go from 8k resolution down to a 4k crop resolution. I would assume that the 4k quality without crop is better than the 4k quality with APS-C crop. Just a guess though.
Mark: “one has 8K, the other DOESNT ” Me: *expects the price tag to be maybe a few hundred dollars more for the 8K* The camera: *is THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE*
The A1 is better in low light for ISO's 4000-10,000 than the A7sIII as its second native ISO is 4000. The A7sIII native ISO's are 640/12800. So for ISO's 10,000 the A7sIII is gonna be the winner. What this means in the real world? For MAX DR and cleanest image you always want to shoot at the base ISO's. A1 for video is 800/4000 and A7sIII is 640/12800. So shooting in lower lights means you get a cleaner image on the A7sIII if you shoot at 12800 vs ISO 3200 which means you need to use ND filters inside (but it also means you can use lower power light sources. I have the FX-3 and the A1. I had the A1 first as I mainly do stills and play with video. The video on A1 is excellent but I've used many cine cameras for video and find the shooting experience for video more enjoyable on the FX-3 because its geared towards video and all settings inputed will be for video shooting (this would be different on the A7sIII since it has a similar layout to the Alpha bodies (hybrid setup).
No, it performes the same when it coms to noise levels, the a9II might give you more accurate exposure and color, but if you set that manually on the a7iii you will get roughly the same results. Good results with either camera. I would get hte a7iii and spend the money saved on fast glas.
Hey there! Thanks to cogmission I was informed about a mistake I made regarding flash sync speeds. I switched that up, sorry.
Here it goes:
A1. Mechanical shutter: 1/400th, 1/500th APS-C. Electronic shutter 1/200th.
A9 II. Mechanical shutter: 1/250th. No sync with electronic shutter.
Best regards to cogmission!
Hi! I love it when an enlightened person can admit mistakes - it's no big deal, so why not? There's a LOT of numbers to memorize! :-) (I have just been living for the A1 for 2 months - crazily devouring all content about it I can! Not owning it, just craving it!) Thanks so much for your hard work (and extraordinary character)! Subscribed!
At 15:20 that was. Indeed. I was just about to make a comment about that.
Well done for the correction.
Now that’s what we do: we make mistakes, we correct them. Easy.
Great video Mark10!!! Btw, EVERYBODY is overlooking the fact that the A1 sensor is not just a 'stacked' CMOS sensor like the A9/A9II, but a STACKED BSI (Back-side illuminated) SENSOR(!!!), which is truly a crowning achievement: combining the best of speed and dynamic range into a single unit, which for a long time just wasn't possible: you either had to go with speed and sacrifice some DR (a9II), or get great DR and image at the cost of speed (A7RIV)... truly amazing!!
The A1 does NOT oversample it’s 4K unless in super35 crop mode. The full frame 4K is binned.
To date, this is still the best, hands down review of any system components. All facts, no fluff, just concise info with simple, clear practical examples. KEEP MAKING GREAT CONTENT.
This video recently lead me to compare all three in person, and purchase the A1. I'd been a Canon 5d2,3,4/1dxii user for over a decade.
The following points were deciding factors.
A1- The viewfinder, focus, file size and physical handling surpass any other stills body by a factor of two. Literally.
A1- The "8K capability" is a phrase that editors and compositors love, clients brag about, and provides the ability to shoot slightly wider, knowing you can punch in or recompose in post. It's like shooting with a b-camera on a tighter lens at all times, which is incredible.
A1- The ability to carry one body for both commercial production level video and stills is huge. My backup is a ZVE10, and I've only used it for a bit of B-roll, or when the A1 was at risk of physical damage from falling off a rig or similar.
A7Siii- Price. At $4500 here in Canada, you can buy two, or one with $4000 in extra glass, but the requirement to have a designated 30MP stills body was prohibitive
A9ii- Price. They're on the used market at $3400 CDN, but the viewfinder is on par with older mirrorless cameras in the $600 range, which kills it, imho. The requirement to have a designated video body, with all the capabilities of the A7sii or iii, was again, illogical.
At the end of the day, the combination of the video and stills capabilities won out, and I went for the A1 with a ZEV10 backup, and have now ordered a second. The camera paid for itself within the first three jobs it was used on, without a doubt.
(Of note, if you can fined a used Leica Summicron 50mm and a good adaptor, I'm telling you its like having a 100mp Hassleblad that shoots video like a Sony cinema camera).
I have literally spent days watching A1 reviews on youtube and this is by far the most informative and complete one.. Thank you so much for taking the time to create this!
The best review I've ever watched, my man! I love the format. I usually stay away from reviews that compare 3 products because I find them not as comprehensive and can't effectively compare the 3 different sets of features. Your review was a first. Comparing the A7sIII with the A1 was so good, anything you said about the A9II was so clear and you didn't have to mentions the a7SII anymore! Great work! I'm subscribed :)
Thanks for the nice comment and support, Mshati Productions! Much appreciated:)
dude, great review, no filler, just specs. love it.
This Review is a gem and so underrated. Surprised it doesn't have more views. Great work dude!
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Excellent comparison. Very well presented. Subscribed. Thank you.
...and now more than a year later, and Sony shocks us with the Firmware Update giving the A1 8K video in 4:2:2!! The A1 is truly, truly amazing!!
Excellent information! Thank you for the comparison!
Great job on that review, nicely structured, professional presentation (technically & how everything was presented) and making the right comparisons (Sony A7s iii and Sony A9 ii which the camera both tops and somewhat combines, you could also compare it to the A7R iv for detail but that has been covered in some other videos and technically in terms of AF, video etc it's not needed). One thing which is hard to film but would be vital to this review is at having at least one real world sample of a situation which benefits/requires/shows the difference of 120AF/AE calculations. The only person having showed that on youtube so far is Mark Galer. The comparisons in video where really nice, these real world usage comparisons are vital though since a few minutes of this video are spec comparisons which are ready available on the official Sony website. Overally well done video though.
Very well done review! good comparison points. I had been looking through lots of other videos,but this helped me make my decision to go with the A7s3
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Neat, concise and informative... you kind of lit us up with the radiance of this review... Great job mate.
Thanks, Sriram Ravindran!
Love the video, so informative and also your voice is so nice calm
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Amazing detailed review! You go. Can you make the a1 vs a7iv review?
I am on a list to get an A7IV, but right now in germany it can't be delivered.......I might be able to do such a reiew in 2022....thanks for the nice comment!:) Best regards Mark
Great review Mark just ordered mine today with 100-400 and 24-105 excited
Mega N I C E!
Thank you for so good comparison!
Thanks, Bestmobiles!
Thank you for the review. I wish a1 gets an update to shoot 4:3 or 3:2 video for anamorphic shooting
Great review! Mechanical Shutter-Sync gets 1/400th, and 1/500th in APSC mode. Highest sync for Electronic Shutter is 1/200th. You had these reversed...
My Phase One with Blue ring lenses has got 1/1500th
great review! thank you very much
Thank you.... this guy is helpful... very simple comparisons but very helpful... again
No problemo, M.Rizky Fadhillah!
That was quite extensive, thanks man!
No problemo, Bananas and Bass!
... a1: oversampling 4K footage is only available in crop mode, otherwise in FF it‘s with pixel bining. And in 8K you will see a significant rolling shutter. But you get an external oversampled 4K signal with the Ninja V (watch Gerrald Undone‘s video).
4K FF on A1 is basically the same like A7 SIII, very hard to find some differences. Super35 mode is sharper and with more detail. Rolling shutter in 8K mode is still very good, much better than old FF A7 III for example.
@@JiriFikejz Can't shoot 4K in Super35 mode on the A7siii.
@@cogmission1 Yes i'know. Super 35 is sharper than normal FF mode on A7 SIII but 4K FF on A1 with pixel binning is very similar and close to A7 SIII and still you can shoot to 8K with great details.
Great video, I have been shooting with an A7s MK III in underwater caves in Florida at ISO 12,800 and the video is beautiful no noise at all. Hoping to test the A1 in the same environment soon and see how high the ISO can be pushed.
@Mark 10, nice video and info.
How does it stack up to A7R4? I was thinking of swapping out my A7R4 + A9 for the A1.
I have an A1 and A7r4. Never use the r4 anymore unless I’m videoing with my A1.
@@ralphtime, do you see yourself using only one body with the A1 or will also keep the R4?
You are amazing man thank you for the very detailed information ✌️
No problemo, kareem soliman!
WOW mate you are a legend! amazing review, keep it and definitely supscrtibed to reserve time for watching every bloody video on your channel!
Thanks for the nice comment and support, Jay Kay! Much appreciated:)
@@Mark10ProVideo actually, I really have a request Mark, would you make a depth go though for settings and it’s functionality for a Sony camera such as A1 or 9xx? I think it would be very interesting to watch it from you
Really really great video man
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Well detailed 👏
Both seem fantastic! I was thinking of the new Sony A9 ii or the A1 or A7S iii. For lens, I was in a Zeiss demo center, and really liked the cp.3 cinema lenses
Wow! Great job!
How much sony a6400 has AF Calc./s?
Sorry, a little mis-information with your Flash Information...
A9II Flash Sync is 1/250 ONLY with Mechanical Shutter. No flash sync with ES.
A1 you have reversed... 1/250 with ES (No other camera can do that) AND 1/400 (1/500 APS-C mode) Only with mechanical Shutter and again, no other of the competition can do that..
Also, your Viewfinder report is also incorrect. They are the same size and resolution but the A7SIII is only 120Hz refresh and the A1 is up to 240Hz.
... yes, you are right, in the video you will find some incorrect informations. It’s 1/200 (FF) sync with ES and 1/250 (APSC) . 😉
Great review! It’s unfortunate that Sony can’t get their act together and make enough of the A1. They are sold out everywhere, and retailers have no idea of when they will be available.
That's not a Sony problem but a worldwide chip shortage and resources problem. Literally every electronics industry is affected by this. All kinds of cameras from any brand, cars, smart devices, even some home appliances etc. are hard to get right now.
True, same problem across the board though. Chip shortage. I work for a construction company that builds custom road cionstruction machines. They rely on chassis from MAN. I was shown a picture of an MAN plant with roughly 1100 chassis waiting for a single chip.
@@Mark10ProVideo you mean MAN AG from Germany
Awesome comparison. Please review Sony a9iii when comes out
Hey brother what would you recommend for someone doing both photography and video in terms of a single camera and lens(es) if budget/cost was unlimited?
So far I am thinking either Sony Alpha 1 (A1), Sony A7IV, or A7SIII .
Ignore prices, I looking to buy once/cry once on most versatile camera & lens(es) setup.
A1 24-70 2.8 GM.
Thank you
Great and very informative Video !
No problemo, Real Estate Toronto Photography!
best camera on the market. A1
Dánke! Excellent review. Are you getting an A1?
A low light test between the two would be nice.
Thanks!
I can't afford it and I don't really need the MP count or 8k or the incredible speed. For everything I do the SIII is the perfect fit for me.
Best regards Mark
If the A1 had a flip-screen or 2-axis tilt-screen for portrait photography it would be my perfect camera!
I personally don’t like the flip screen because it’s not plum with the camera and it gets in the way. Just personal preference.
It’s funny how people like different things. I like the traditional flip screen because of how I shoot Events and Wedding’s
yeah, one thing I really like about the Fuji camera screens is that they are just like the Sony (non-flip screens) but have that added hinge for portrait mode. Once you have a camera with that feature for portrait photography its so hard not to have it anymore (its greatly missed).
gute Arbeit, klasse Video
Thank you for the comparison. I have a hard time getting the colors right on the A7S3. It's very orange with WB set to match the keylight Kelvin unless I adjust the color offset all the way to the left. The A1 is super-expensive for a non-pro, but I am so tempted. I've been mainly shooting talking head videos with A7S3. Any insights/suggestions are appreciated.
Maybe it helps to try measure whitebalance on a white card (x-rite video passport) on the place of the talent.
XRite color checker passport video. I always take one with me. Super simple, exact white balance and magenta green shift correction. Then from there I use WB creatively If I don't like the look.
wow this is the 1 review. great job
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Great video but I would also compare with a7R4
Thanks för the video! Can you please share your lut .cube file for s-log3 when running in front of the camera. Thanks!
what a fantastic review!
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Exzellentes Video. Vielen Dank.
No problemo, Silke Herrling!
... the speed (fps) has no(!) influence on the buffer capacity, as it is misunderstood here in the video - 30 fps or 20 fps, it‘s of cause the same capacity
Correct is: JPEG Extra Fine L: 182 images, JPEG Fine L: 400 images, JPEG Standard L: 400 images, RAW: 238 images, RAW and JPG: 192 images, RAW (Lossless Compression): 96 images, RAW (Lossless Compression) and JPG : 83 images, RAW (uncompressed): 82 images, RAW (uncompressed) and JPG: 78 images
How does the 4k/120 footage compare between the A1 and SIII?
I couldn't do more tests than the ones you saw. Can't really tell you, sorry:) Should be more crisp on the A1 from what I understand.
Awesome information
Brother please make a comparison video of Panasonic Lumix S1H Vs Sony alpha 1
Good Idea, but I can't get my hands on an SH1 any time soon. Really only makes sense for video to do a comparison, but that would be interesting.
Thanks for considering and replying thank you brother
12:12 Hey, birds are animals too!
just like us humans.
Thank you Mark for your review
one question though; regarding recording video in APSc mode in both the A1 and A7 S iii, no one is talking much in detail about that. Maybe it's possible on the A1 because of the high MP, but what about the quality, for both cameras is 4k detail resolution still possible? please elaborate
The SIII has no 4k APS-C crop mode, like the A7III. Not enough resolution.
A1 has a crop mode, but I did not have the time to test it and see how good the quality is. I assume there will be a lot of processing applied to the signal to go from 8k resolution down to a 4k crop resolution. I would assume that the 4k quality without crop is better than the 4k quality with APS-C crop. Just a guess though.
Gerald Undone did a comparison in one of his a1 videos. I think the first one.
Mark: “one has 8K, the other DOESNT ”
Me: *expects the price tag to be maybe a few hundred dollars more for the 8K*
The camera: *is THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE*
"one has thother does"? come again...
Great Video
How is lowlight in A1. Because we know that a7siii is very good but how is in A1?
The A1 is better in low light for ISO's 4000-10,000 than the A7sIII as its second native ISO is 4000. The A7sIII native ISO's are 640/12800. So for ISO's 10,000 the A7sIII is gonna be the winner. What this means in the real world? For MAX DR and cleanest image you always want to shoot at the base ISO's. A1 for video is 800/4000 and A7sIII is 640/12800. So shooting in lower lights means you get a cleaner image on the A7sIII if you shoot at 12800 vs ISO 3200 which means you need to use ND filters inside (but it also means you can use lower power light sources. I have the FX-3 and the A1. I had the A1 first as I mainly do stills and play with video. The video on A1 is excellent but I've used many cine cameras for video and find the shooting experience for video more enjoyable on the FX-3 because its geared towards video and all settings inputed will be for video shooting (this would be different on the A7sIII since it has a similar layout to the Alpha bodies (hybrid setup).
@@justinavila1320 thanks for long answer
I just want to know if the Sony a9ii is better than the Sony a7iii for night photography?
No, it performes the same when it coms to noise levels, the a9II might give you more accurate exposure and color, but if you set that manually on the a7iii you will get roughly the same results. Good results with either camera. I would get hte a7iii and spend the money saved on fast glas.
Thank yiu
great job!!!!!
Thanks, PM-R TV!
great review, A1 is a beast.
but ugly form factor
Ratio
Was that an FX3 on the table?
No, that is an unfinished rig for the A7III I am experimenting with:)
I want the a1
Plus: The A7SIII has the advantage of a fully articulated screen for video.
Great review! Thanks