League's match-fixing scandal just got worse
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League's match-fixing scandal just got worse
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Chapters:
0:00 The Leaked Screenshot
2:01 The Lost Media
3:58 Match Fixing
5:38 League's largest-ever competitive ruling
7:42 Closing thoughts
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honestly idk why riot try to be reasonable with this players, at this point why not perma ban them, idk not life sentence in prison, just video game ban
That bit about recording assists was funny as hell ngl. Great comedic timing!
Please correct me if I am wrong, but how can it be that the company responsible for monitoring the competitions and betting operators, SPORTRADAR, has never come forward and pointed out any irregularities?
Why would i download malware on my computer? thought you cared about ur viewers
@@folkenberger is he forcing u
5:00 The caster was so confused as why he was casting a silver game for a second there. Bro let out the most honest HUH i've seen 💀
The last "Huuuh" is "Họ", which means "They" 😅
He just confused and don't know how to explain current situation
Nah, even silver's would go for a finish here.
As Ryscu said Silver will end the game, this is level of decision making of Iron 5
it was a super obv to end the game there based on lead + death timers.. of course the caster would be hella confused
Thank you for emphasizing that the 32 players are merely under investigation as opposed to so many opportunists simply falsely stating that they've been banned for match fixing. While it's a serious issue, we need to make sure we're condemning the right people.
It's still bad that 90% of the teams are involved in the investigations though
😂😂 as if other regions do not do riot match fixing .....
@@tamdang8346 China was another one but so far, haven't really heard Koreans doing it but the attackers have been trying to make it happen
Most of them will be banned so whatever
@@adamszabo2874 You really out here saying shit you can't back up with the confidence of a math teacher, huh.
Rough translation for what the Caster said at 05:00:
- They don't end the game ? Huh ?
- Can they end the game ? Huuuuh ?
can they end the game? they.....
HUH
Yo, just a little criticism on the editing: The effects used to highlight the main points on the texts at 3:07, 3:58, 5:14, 6:38, & 6:56 can be irritating and uneasy on the eyes. It is doing the opposite of what you might have intended, blurring it instead.
As someone with astigmatism, it's nearly impossible to read.
Thank you for posting this so I don't have to ❤
i honestly thought there is something wrong with my eyes.
Thank you for stating that. It was so horrible to my eyes. Hopefully it's taken in account for future videos.
@@lesterjohn9038 I took off my glasses to double check.
its nice to see im not the only one with that problem, i was legitimately worried my eyesight was getting worse when reading that text.
As a vietnamese person growing up in the vietnamese culture for the majority of his childhood, the worst part about this whole scandal is that im not even surprised that it's the VCS doing this
To elaborate, vietnam has a deep history of war and often fought as the underdogs. We prevailed because of our determination and ingenuity (so much so that many forms of traps went to Geneva). Past the wartimes, that culture that puts your cunning at such a high regard maintained, but has slowly morph into a general anti-authority, deals on the side kind of system. Look no further than the education system, where cheating in school is not only common, but almost expected. In legal systems, bribery is a big problem, and soooo many gov officials has been incarcerated in the past couple years for embezzling funds. I want to say I've internalized a certain negative bias on vietnamese people, but like, it is definitely not a totally irrational and unjustified bias.
@@khrispham9075 I wouldn't say ingenuity, more like ruthlessness. Many of the traps were ones deemed as inhumane because they were simply cruel. Soldiers are also meant to fight so that civilians won't add up the casualty count, but Northern Vietnam engaged in pure guerilla warfare: hiding among the civilians, placing traps in open fields that would only cripple soldiers, and much more.
This ruthlessness and rebellion fueled war period resulted in a similar situation as France where the country was ruled by a militant power with rigged elections and much more corruption. Thus, the people have stopped trusting the government and whatever societal constructs that were in place and have simply sought to make the most for themselves. Hence, the cheating and match fixing.
It's been a sad 80 years for Vietnam, and it's honestly a huge relief that it wasn't nuked or turned into a complete dystopia as it had been a massive war border.
@@khrispham9075 I understand you are more referring to the society than the people. I'm not Vietnamese but have known many Vietnamese-Canadians who were intelligent, hardworking, and very decent people. Also, reading about some commenters allude to potentially the economic reasons that VCS team members may have turned to match-fixing (relatively low salaries), I can't help but think that LPL, LEC, LCK, LCS, don't have the same degree of such pressures...so the situation is unfortunate but I can find some sympathy.
@@Effie.B Not to mention they have a relatively low educational background, some not even get past high school and simply droped out. So they still can't quite comprehend the consequences of their wrong doings.
@@Effie.B ha ha, you really have a general and deep thought about the match-fixing, rather than a (or any) country's problem
The comedy and anecdotal nature of your promotional content actually had me watch it unskipped with a chuckle. Nice way to integrate the ads without making them feel oppressive.
Its also really nice when an ad isn’t taking 3 minutes of a 8 minute video
My favorite part about this sort of thing is the announcers. The "HUUUUUH?".
The people commentating are 100% the first to notice the wintrading
my region ❤
to be honest, match-fixing to win bet (or just to gain some extra money apart from their already low salary) has been so common lately that these kind of scandals just can't aren't surprising at all to me.
Don't worry bro, China has been doing this since its debut into pro-esports LoL and Riot will do NOTHING about it, why? Cause they can't they're owned by Tencent.
Proofs pls.i just see Tencent bad, Murica f8ck yea@@mis8866
Hey man, awesome video as always! I just wanted to leave one bit of feedback regarding something that bothered me a bit personally while watching.
During the bits where you show the translated announcements such as at 3:07, 4:02, 5:20 or 6:53 I found those bits to be quite irritating to look at due to the visual effects used for editing. That 3D glasses kind of effect (for lack of a better term) used on some of the text was kinda hard to look at, at least for me personally. Don't know if other people feel the same way or if it's bothering me because of my new glasses or something but I thought I'd point it out.
Nonetheless this was a very entertaining video so keep up the good work!
agree with that point, if theres text on the screen i usually pause to read through them. the extra effects kinda makes it irritating
exactly i was just about to write the exact same thing like why would u do that
i watched thru after seeing ur comment and cant help but agree
Was about to type it, IT's umbearable for me. I'm red green colourblind so I don't know if that's just making it worst for me.
2:32 the screenshot said OPG was supposed to lose
Update, they were able to get the VCS playoffs going, however two teams, MGN Blue esports and Cerberus withdrew, leaving Secret, GAM, Viking and Whale to compete, notice aside from Whales, they were the teams that had the least amount of issues
The color degradation on the text is not a good idea dude, please if possible dont do that, i double checked my glasses 3 times thinking it was my eyes, i had some problems with my eyesight as of late, i legit thought man, its getting worse? thank god i checked comments and its not only me
There’s a thing I want to highlight before banned list comes up. Riot doesn’t allow their pro-player relate to any kind of gamble (but I heard that there’re many proplayer participated in gambling including soccer/footbal matches). But Riot doesnt tell us the reason why the players be banned. Therefore, all speculation for banned players is match fixing. I don't want to justify the violation but there is an ethical barrier between match fixing and betting. So if you don't really know why they were banned , I hope you can treat them more gently.
It's already hard to believe all if not most of the non-finals are not fixed in the simplest ways like who gets FB.
Every employer or leader in asia abuses the dream of "opportunity to be rich" to justify paying pennies in asia,
Same thing happening in many sports in Asia namely PBA(Philippine basketball association ), only champions and top 2 if not 3 gets some money if not something, so it's a way for the 4th and below to get something out of their effort, (not saying the top 3 are not doing it)
It's quite easy to fix in Asia cause people would just say, they're just sore losers or something.
I wonder if Riot even investigates match fixing unless there are leaks. Let's be honest, I've watched some LCK, LCS and LEC games and some of the plays were things that would look weird even in bronze.
Here some information, my english not good but I'll try my best. There're person (1) who contact many proplayers for match fixing and he worked with RW head coach, RW head coach lied about money for match fixing ( players got paid 200 mils but he asked for more than 400 ), then he went betting on his team winning against other team (MBE-also has player match fixing), MBE supposed to lose to RW but RW player sold the game as well. In the end RW lost and he lost a lot of money so he borrowed many people money then went missing after that. Person (1) found out he's been tricked so he gathered all proplayers information about match fixing he worked with and sent it to Riot. MBE vs TS match fixing was so obvious that Riot had to act right away after that match. Match fixing was there for many years but Garena always hide everything for the sake of money, I'm glad that Riot doing all of this saving VCS from everything Garena left behind for so long.
@@streetball014 Never heard/watched garena tournaments so I never knew, at best I only look up who won in the worlds xD
Never regretted to never watched if that's the case
I'm not gonna defend match fixing but considering this happened on a SEA nation i could see why, cause most of the players here are paid so little they might as well be paid literal bags of candies. Most SEA pro players also have more pressure since most of the time your parents are very traditional and won't really lean on you going into pro gaming, hence why there are less pro players in this region compared to china/europe/korea/usa.
I agree with your second point but the first point in which you said they are paid very little is not entirely correct. Yes, compare to LCS, LEC and other regions it is substantially less. But I would argue that the cost of living in Vietnam is very cheap. 700$ monthly is more than enough for you and you have many rooms for savings. They are paid more than average workers in Vietnam. Only greed justifies everything they did.
It's not like someone force them to be Pro gamer. These player accept the job after consider salary. Their action destroy very job they are depend on. So now it went from getting paid to nothing
@@su3t yeah greed does play a big part and when they get paid 10x their current monthly wage by a single game they match fix, it does make you think twice.
@@NotLookinGood Nuh uh. Bet values on LCK games are orders of magnitude higher. Why didn't LCK players consider match fixing? Apart from top tiers players, other players earning is not that higher compare to the living standards in Korea. Imo by match fixing you earns 10x but when you get caught you will not be able to play professionally again. All your time devoted to the game is now meaningless and no amount of money can bring you back the time you have lost.
Paid so little is subjective. The avarage pay is $200-$350 a month, higher than national avarage pay. Plus accomodation and food, they dont have rent, no groceries.
In vietnam you can’t find a job that you wake up at work, wake up at 11am, no traffic waiting, people cook for you, AC 24/7, and 6-8 hours work day
Nice Video but I think using the red and blue effect to highlight text is not a good option. It made it hard to read und kinda hurts too see. I think to highlight text is better to just underline it.
As someone from SEA, this is why we can't have nice things. It's only recently that Riot actually paid attention to SEA countries, with Philippines and Indonesia getting their own Riot servers instead of 3rd party companies like Garena.
they only took back PH to use it as a guinea pig for Vanguard, if you look it up, Philippines was/is the first country to roll out Vanguard.
They gave ultimate skins but only given 1 year to enjoy them with the Vanguard BIOS requirement that many PC's don't have.
not looking good for the country considering that just a few weeks ago TFT pro players from VN are also slapped with matchfixing/colluding allegations with hard evidence. I'm not surprised if Riot will stop supporting their country altogether
Pro players either quit as a Hero or play long enough to see themselves as the villain.
Maybe if riot paid their players a reasonable amount of their insane ad-income money to begin with, they wouldn't have to go looking for alternate sources of income.
A bit of a fun fact: The reason why you cannot get the official Vietnamese broadcast of TS vs OPG is that the channel which owns all the broadcasts till the end of 2021 - VETV7 (VETV) owned by Garena was shut down as a result of Riot taking responsibility of VN's server. Hence, all of their content on UA-cam was locked from access.
Please correct me if I am wrong, but how can it be that the company responsible for monitoring the competitions and betting operators, SPORTRADAR, has never come forward and pointed out any irregularities?
The color filter on the images with text hurt my eyes.
It the whole vietnamese community, even for tft the recent SEA qualifiers had alot of viet players doing unsportsmanlike or sus like behavior. One of the qualified vietman player for worlds ended up getting banned for promoting betting sites
I still think that the "throws" are not as obvious as the ultra liga ones.
I honestly gave up on basically all competative esports for any game as matchfixing is running rampant RN in just not only league...
Ranked play across multiple games is completly collapsing aswell so yeah
I mean wasn't the top challengers in Vietnam server were also win trades? Not all but a huge chunk of their challenger players win trade a sht ton
Dw bro if your region was China you'd be sweet as, Tencent overlords and all.
Riot piss me off cause they have CLEAR evidence of Chinas cheating problem but do nothing about it just cause they're owned by em, actually so sad to see a dev team who literally left blizzard because of "abuse" only to end up selling out to the most abusive Chinese company to ever exist in video gaming history.
rough translation of the leaked screenshot at 1:26, he explains it in the video but if you don't speak Vietnamese and curious here
( S: sender, R: receiver)
S: Be careful, exact and no mistakes
R1: At 1:59p.m
R2: Game 1 is at 2:02 p.m
Game 2 starts at 2:02 p.m
Game 3 PHt dies 14:02
R1: Ok 2:04 p.m
S: Game 2 celebrates at 2:05 p.m
R2: Game 1, Atifact dies first, Tss win.
Game 2, Celeb dies first, OPG
Game 3, PHT dies first, OPG lose
S: Ok
Deal
ngl, I sometimes feel like lcs games are off. not in terms of giving free kills or dying stupidly but. sometimes I would see a champion do so much damage but the next game it doesnt seem to the same. ofc I did consider the fact it could be the items or being fed or being ahead in levels. but still sometime it just feels off
LCK also throws even at worlds.
I was stunned when I saw how everyone in SKT T1 except for Faker played in finals of world 2017.
Like all the games in worlds were great until the final where everyone just started randomly throwing while Faker was trying to carry and getting punished for this.
I dont even know why gambling stuff is so prominent in vietnam, when it comes to putting bets on Games in esports, somehow vietnamese people are so prominent. I have literally seen entire chats turn to vietnamese chats simply because of the betters chatting and even witnessed threats against people for losing.
The thrills and quick bucks I guess. Many see it as a harmless hobby, one that give you an excuse to hang out with the bois and burn your disposable income at weekends. Some see it as life changing opportunity without ever break a sweat.
this is a perfect example of short gains over future gains. Same thing in NA they choose the money over making a labor union or invest in challenger teams. By the time they did it was to late. Now no one gets paid and a lot lost there job because they choose the short money.
I bet
Please no more chromatic aberration effects on text, it's a nightmare to read, good video tho
man, and i thought it was because i'm reading without my glass @@@
editor: **adds god rays, ambient occlusion, depth of field**
The effects on the text makes my eyes hurt specially at 5:23, i would avoid them in the future
Hi Ryscu, I enjoy your videos a lot but please use the text effects where there is blue&red blure around normal white text, its disorienting to look at, it would be really appreciated
agreed
not me reading the comments during the video bc the text effect physically hurts my eyes, but I still want to hear the news.
Skill issue.
I really thought my vision was going bad, so Irubbed my eyes a lot I started to get worried glad to see this comment.
When I was highschooler monkey who love scaling school's wall to go to netcafe midday break, I vividly remember there was a matchfixing of Age of Empire (?) that involved big money was unearthed, the glowies in green busting in netcafes for id check and several ring leaders was cuffed. Crazy time, the 10pm law was introduced around this time too I believe, after some public outcry, where netcafe cannot be open from 10pm, of course they still do, you just need to know the way in. Now day netcafes are thin on the ground, but you can bet the glowies are working around the clock on those betting site, they love busting gambling den after all for obvious reason.
Thank you for uploading these very informational video and bring this info forward to more eyes
we even heard that the coach encourage players to match fixing
I never ever thought i would see vcsenglish(the unofficial english casters) mentioned in a youtube video. I used to watch them long ago
Karma to riot optimizing the game for esports instead of just making an esport version, they will get unloyal players who are only in it for the money, I knew teams that are not in the top 2 consistently will make money somewhere else aka bets.
incredibly sad to see this is how my region gets spotlight on them, really wished for the VCS to get bigger but doesn’t seem like we’ll be seen as legit any time soon
Mum I made it into a ryscu video
love the vids im happy to be updated on all the gossip lol
Man, who could've seen THAT coming, huh?
Not sure if its just me and my eyesight lol, but trying to read the rainbow text at 6:56 was just slowly hurting my eyes. Not sure if its just me though
What's with the glitchy text? Example at 6:37. Seems like it appears when you inserted pictures of text
There's players in riot challenger na right now, win trading, scripting abd even buying accounts.
Just a small thing: That weird filter or blur over the announcements at 3:03 . 3:59 , 5:14 , 6:37 , 6:58 makes it harder to read the messages.
Apart from that very nice video.
I honestly feel for the VCS players. Theyre so underpaid they kinda HAVE to rely on match-fixing to get the bread and support their family. While what they're doing is absolutely wrong, I can understand why they have given up on integrity. As a vietnamese, the sad truth is that if you want to make it big here, you'll always have to get your hands dirty
I wonder if Riot will actually ban 32 players if they are all found guilty? Or they will only soft ban the ones that didn't commit too bad of a crime so that it doesn't look too bad on the league
Top LPL teams casually losing 2:0 back to back to teams with 10x coefficients. Nah no match fixing here
2:34 It's actually means OPG to lose, not win. Yup the situation is pretty bad, but hey, at least we can see SofM play again :D
My best moment is missing all skill shots, still getting the kill with AA then type EZ in chat
Im viet, so I can give u guys some closer look at this ridiculous situation. Before 2023, the League server and VCS was controlled by Garena - think of it like Steam but for South East Asia. At the time, everyone implicitly understood that the tournament was controlled by a force behind it, and rumors says the one controlled it all was Mr.Vinh - ex owner of GAM Esports (people making jokes that the VCS is actually called Vinh Championship Series). And because this was only controlled by one person, rigged games happens already. The Lucian u guys saw at the early of the video was actually kicked from his team (and maybe banned i dont actually remember) because the owner of the team found proofs that he involved in match fixing. The page that given us most of the info is actually anonymous, and has been leaked super percise information about the scene without anyone knowing who actually is behind it etc. This thing is a mess, but now since the server and the league go back in control of Riot, lets hope good thing happens
I thought it was sus when riot released the song "fly phoenix" even before fpx won
the rainbow font hurts my eyes, please stop using those :/ (not in a h*m*phobic way, im just dizzy by the colors)
I hurts on both ways🗿
tbf it seems there stills some serious people working at riots competitive integrity, idk, or maybe they only punish the lack of care about hiding the fixings.
Riot: Does matchfixing to give you Winners and Losers Q
Players: Does matchfixing
Riot: Wait that is illegal
Hypocrites
True, I think it's also called EOMM
Great video. Love your style!
The effects/filters you used made reading texts so hard and painful to the eyes. Please refrain from using that again.
Riot ignored betting and game fixing and now it’s spreading to the competitive side and will only get worse if they don’t address it properly
I bet
VCS matchfixing like crazy, LCK getting DDoSed while Riot trying desperately to remove the necessary pings and other fun parts from the game, what a inhumanly intelligent move ngl
Ryscu two days ago i was playing lol on tr server i was having max 7 ms then i got ddos and disconnected 12 times and 600 ms min
i wonder how will the world react when we find out IF the worlds championship got fixed or msi or regionals and all people that were considered gods of league are fake , let the chaos begin , time tells no lies
Bro that's some great content, keep it up!
can you please talk about the fact that pbe legit just has this horrible bug that makes it so you cant sign in to the pbe i have tried so many things but i cant seem to load in every time its always failed to launch or i don't have a pbe account when i do in fact have one I've tried deleting the game from everything auto run fixes admin priority other fixes restarts basically the whole reddit list of things I can do
7:00 list of 32 suspects, some with the rainbow text highlight lol
Match fixing is so bad in League right now. Even my own teammates participate is solo queue (I'm in Gold) .
btw tipp dont install this overlay and overwolf stuff, it makes riots already broken client even more laggy and broken
Wait, is there a game where both teams try to lose in a official match?
Too much prop markets that you don't even need to consider ML
Man when you put on the blue and red filter for text it kinda f**k my eyes. Quite hard to red anything.
Match fixing is so common in all sports.
who would want to watch men's fixed matches? I rather watch womens sports fixed or not 🤣
how did tahm kench ult ashe on lvl2? 2:25
this was a very old clip from pre tahm kench REWORK, eat use to be a normal spell with his ult being different
the dark web is full of price fixing websites. mostly real sports but im sure theres esports in those websites as well
Every region is doing this btw.
It’s just that these guys got caught because there’s not really that much money involved.
first it was TFT and now this. sigh SEA region is lost for Esports
its bad in ow2 i got false report silenced and harassed by incel gamers so now i get trolls flamers every game 30% winrate, except on venture 51% winrate, it'd be 80% winrate with non shit mming
If everyone is match fixing, is no one match fixing? Legitimately how do you try and give FB if everyone is trying to throw.
I feel like a buncha teams win-trade just by drafting like shit and then play the best they can with a gimped hand 😂😂
but hey, we got a chance to see sofm playing at play off for vke agianst gam today
3:10 please don't use that effect, makes some of us dizzy lol
Pls dont do that edit with letters, where they overlap and in different colours, it hurts the eyes and i legit thought my eyesight was fucked up.
The matchfixing isn't just in the VCS. It's widespread imo. You only need to open your eyes.
How much money do they get for such match fixing
Thanks for the content.
Today I learned Team Secret has a League team.
this is happening in other tier 1 leagues, and definitely rampant throughout CS as well…. and not a damn thing is done
riot really need stepup their with esport,
thanks for that text, I didn't need my eyes anyways! xD
Ahhh my region, after all these dramas, I'm glad that VCS is taking a big turn for the better. There is currently a trend of old, fan-favourite players joining teams in Play-off to replace the suspended players. This includes VKE Sofm (Worlds 2020 Runner-up) and TW Optimus (the midlaner of GAM 2017 roster). Needless to say, VCS will be making a big return next week and I'll be there to root for my region.
VCS FIGHTINGGGGG!!!!
Someone to the new player: Just so you know you will get a cut if you get FB, etc. :3
They’ve been match fixing ever since the betting on these games came out. Everyone just ignored it
The text is blurry my eyes hurt pls use yellow highlights or any color that doesn't hurt eyes
They sacrificed 32 bad player to summons the goat of vcs
“But first my rent is due” that’s vaild ngl ill download outplay
Waiting for that hour long video
can u not put the green blue red filter over text?
Since so many people cheated in VCS it would be better to cancel VCS completely and to ban all players from playing competitive. Riot Games should also file a lawsuit.
Many of them were cheating and the rest of them probably knew about cheating. Nobody needs players like that in Esport and it would send a message to other cheaters.
I don't know. I have seen silvers leave a wide open base to take baron before. You're giving them too much credit
Reminds me of a losing game as Nilah in URF, and I killed 2 towers and their nexus straight xD. Someone came to try to stop me but he was an auto-attacker
36 month ban?? Life time ban!!
Cause they know League nor TFT won't be popular if not alive forever.
And they need their stardom for other projects.
Most honest SEA "people"
What a competitive scene with match fixing? 🤔 This is new.