Ultima was powerful, yes, but to be fair Ultima did not fight 3 Eikons in their prime. Clive took most of the power from Dion after their fight, just remember what he could do in crazened state during fight with him. I do not mean that Dion is weak in any way! Dude managed to be able to get that form even after Clive took the powers, which is not something most could do, took the burden by flying both Clive and Joshua in this form which takes a toll and pushed his abilities to the limit even in this weakened state with the last laugh. The true dragoon he was. What I mean is that it really was not the fight with the protagonist team in their peak state, due to being on the clock, Joshua's powers limited due to the need to suppress Ultima's clone sealed in his body, Dion being weakened by Clive and other factors, like Ifrit Rizen which could have helped.
Yep people seem to forget that previously an enraged Bahamut was started to be capable of entirely destroying the world. As a single Eikon, I would say Bahamut is the absolute strongest, with only Ifrit being more powerful due to absorbing eikons.@@Designer-Speech7143
Agreed, you have a full power and enraged Bahamut who was stated to be capable of burning the world, that required the power of Ifrit Prime who struggled defeat him, this is the same power who was able to defeat a fully primed Ultima. On top of that Jote even said that Joshua isnt as strong since absorbing Ultima as it takes a toll on his body, and Clive is an odd one, his power lies in absorbing and not having any negative side effects of using Eikon powers (whereas all others going all out lose control or turn to stone) , but doesnt feel as powerful compared to others, he wins down to endurance and unique abilities. I would say against a full power Bahamut, Phoenix without ultima absorbed and the unique capabilities of Ifrit, Ultima would have had a much harder time@@Designer-Speech7143
The power of the Ikons came from Ultima to begin with. I would say this shows how frighteningly powerful Bahamut is to force Ultima to commit so thoroughly that he was completely caught by surprise, and destroyed that avatar.
Without aether from the Mothercrystal he consumed? Good luck, bud. He was shown using Mega and Gigaflare throughout the Twinside battle, and Teraflare once we hit space, so all of those have a place in this fight. But Zettaflare had a full-ass wind-up AND used practically all the aether that the Mothercrystal's heart had to offer. There's no way he could pull a Zettaflare out for this fight. Besides, Ultima Prime's already shown to be powerful enough, we don't need to see him overpower a Zettaflare.
Damn, wish we had the option to change to colour of clives limit break and ifrit form, then we could look like ultima prime through limit break and ifrit, that would be fire ngl
Yeah. To me. It only felt like Bahamut really pushed their eikon to the limit. That standoff with Ultima was great. But Joshua, and Clive felt powerful yet subpar. It seems they could’ve been more versatile. Plus we never had gameplay against Ultima. It was like a cutscene. I’m surprised devs never allowed the player to control fighting more directly.
At least he didn't push it in our faces like a good part of the world. He stayed quiet about that side of himself. Which makes him my third favorite character of the game.
@@AnimeJR9025 maybe man , but this thing ,at least for me, has already crossed the redline. the slightest mention of this topic makes me feel disgusted. Same thing for films, TV series and other cultural products.
@@AnimeJR9025 maybe i'm not so religious, even though recently I'm trying my best to reconcile with God , but basically that is not the main reason . I can't stand the arrogance of this movement , the impact on the young generations, the contradictions that arise from it , and the delusion of that folk when we deal with the issue in terms of biology and science. This is absolutely nothing of what I want for my future children. That's why I'm putting so much effort on my project in order to leave Europe once and for all.
@@pa02tri07zio82 Same, I'm in America and I'm trying to make this money so I can go live in Japan. This is just clown world in the west and it's getting to the kids, but it won't have my kids when I find the right girl. One last thing stick with Jesus Christ he will get us through this.
I think it's ment to be scripted and ment to lose but the first phase the second phase is ultima is buffed up and upgraded and uses his clones as a weapon the third phase is ifrit vs ifrit a match up and the final phase is using every eikon abilities via qte
Yeah, they realized they can make cutscenes playable with QTEs so you're not putting the controller down for minutes at a time, while still telling the story they want to tell. It's cool unless you're one of those people that actually likes putting their controller down for 5 minutes
The music. The art direction. Every time I see this, I don't know why but I immediately get chills and tears fill my eyes.
I never thought of it till now but the best thing anabella did by remarrying was making these 3 step brothers.
True
well just brothers the only step bro is the mans dion
@@zaigeixthank you captain obvious.
Joshua: I'm Joshua.
Dion: I'm Dion but you have to call me Bahumut.
Joshua: You have to call me Phoenix.
Dion's adopted
Dion is truly a remarkable fighter until the end
Ultima’s little “oh…” always gets me 😂😂😂
This really shows how frighteningly powerful Ultima is. The combined might of three Eikons couldn't even take him down.
Ultima was powerful, yes, but to be fair Ultima did not fight 3 Eikons in their prime. Clive took most of the power from Dion after their fight, just remember what he could do in crazened state during fight with him. I do not mean that Dion is weak in any way! Dude managed to be able to get that form even after Clive took the powers, which is not something most could do, took the burden by flying both Clive and Joshua in this form which takes a toll and pushed his abilities to the limit even in this weakened state with the last laugh. The true dragoon he was. What I mean is that it really was not the fight with the protagonist team in their peak state, due to being on the clock, Joshua's powers limited due to the need to suppress Ultima's clone sealed in his body, Dion being weakened by Clive and other factors, like Ifrit Rizen which could have helped.
Yep people seem to forget that previously an enraged Bahamut was started to be capable of entirely destroying the world. As a single Eikon, I would say Bahamut is the absolute strongest, with only Ifrit being more powerful due to absorbing eikons.@@Designer-Speech7143
Agreed, you have a full power and enraged Bahamut who was stated to be capable of burning the world, that required the power of Ifrit Prime who struggled defeat him, this is the same power who was able to defeat a fully primed Ultima. On top of that Jote even said that Joshua isnt as strong since absorbing Ultima as it takes a toll on his body, and Clive is an odd one, his power lies in absorbing and not having any negative side effects of using Eikon powers (whereas all others going all out lose control or turn to stone) , but doesnt feel as powerful compared to others, he wins down to endurance and unique abilities. I would say against a full power Bahamut, Phoenix without ultima absorbed and the unique capabilities of Ifrit, Ultima would have had a much harder time@@Designer-Speech7143
But later 1 guy beats him with the power of never giving up and friendship. Or maybe that was Naruto.
The power of the Ikons came from Ultima to begin with. I would say this shows how frighteningly powerful Bahamut is to force Ultima to commit so thoroughly that he was completely caught by surprise, and destroyed that avatar.
If I had a nickel for every time Dion fell from the sky with a grievous head injury…
And they say that a hero can save us... Sorry. Here's your Nickelback.
You'd have two nickels
@@SpookGod which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice, right?
5:00 Strait DBZ moments right here it never felt more appropriate. Piccolo would be proud!😢
This is the most epic power scaling in Final Fantasy ever. I don't think any other characters were as strong as these.
Bro dion should’ve done the Zettaflare on ultima
He was weakened in this fight
Without aether from the Mothercrystal he consumed? Good luck, bud. He was shown using Mega and Gigaflare throughout the Twinside battle, and Teraflare once we hit space, so all of those have a place in this fight. But Zettaflare had a full-ass wind-up AND used practically all the aether that the Mothercrystal's heart had to offer.
There's no way he could pull a Zettaflare out for this fight. Besides, Ultima Prime's already shown to be powerful enough, we don't need to see him overpower a Zettaflare.
Was there that the zetaflare right at the end? When it turned gold
@ oh I'm blind nvm
@@bugworrall nah dion’s like that. I think he could do it
“Oh.”
Damn, wish we had the option to change to colour of clives limit break and ifrit form, then we could look like ultima prime through limit break and ifrit, that would be fire ngl
What’s the name of the track playing???
On the Soundtrack it's called "A Far Cry from Heaven"
I only wish that Bahamut use zettaflare against ultima
Oh Dion :'(
3 brothers by maternal sides....
Joshua : I'll carry you Clive
Dion : No I'll carry you both
Clive : Okay
Cid : Heh boys
Hey I want ask is when will you going to do the "legend of heroes trails of cold steel 2 movie with Alisa bonding"?
Can you make a movie for Master Detective Archives: Rain Code?
The fact that bahamut kept up so well against ultima and killed him in spite of his emotions.
5:09 I didn't know I was playing a dragon ball z game lol.
All I'm seeing is remastered Digimon Adventures 1: Greymon, Birdramon, and Kabuterimon
What's a Digimon some pokemon clone?
Im sad how i think the ifrit phoenix vs bahamut battle was better than this, idk i just feel like something wasnt there with ultima
Yeah. To me. It only felt like Bahamut really pushed their eikon to the limit. That standoff with Ultima was great. But Joshua, and Clive felt powerful yet subpar. It seems they could’ve been more versatile. Plus we never had gameplay against Ultima. It was like a cutscene. I’m surprised devs never allowed the player to control fighting more directly.
I’m surprised it’s not skippable since it pretty much is a cutscene
did Dion kill ultima? i think did…
This game's anime factor is not of this world.
god of war better than this :)
No these are different games wich you cannot compare
God of War is garbage. Final Fantasy XVi is much better
@@DragonKingMadaraUchihagod of war is miles better
@@VulcanReborn-s5g God of War is trash. Final Fantasy is always the better series.
I only wish bahamut wasn't a lgbt quote ... I' d have bought this game . How to ruin a series...
At least he didn't push it in our faces like a good part of the world. He stayed quiet about that side of himself. Which makes him my third favorite character of the game.
@@AnimeJR9025 maybe man , but this thing ,at least for me, has already crossed the redline. the slightest mention of this topic makes me feel disgusted. Same thing for films, TV series and other cultural products.
@@pa02tri07zio82 Crazy world, I'm religious thats why it bothers me. What about you, you also religious or you don't like it for the sake of it.
@@AnimeJR9025 maybe i'm not so religious, even though recently I'm trying my best to reconcile with God , but basically that is not the main reason . I can't stand the arrogance of this movement , the impact on the young generations, the contradictions that arise from it , and the delusion of that folk when we deal with the issue in terms of biology and science. This is absolutely nothing of what I want for my future children. That's why I'm putting so much effort on my project in order to leave Europe once and for all.
@@pa02tri07zio82 Same, I'm in America and I'm trying to make this money so I can go live in Japan. This is just clown world in the west and it's getting to the kids, but it won't have my kids when I find the right girl. One last thing stick with Jesus Christ he will get us through this.
Did you know you can fail every QTE here and still auto-win?
Yeah that's big down side on these boss fight, these are pretty lame, its always the same command and doesn't punish enough sometime
I think it's ment to be scripted and ment to lose but the first phase the second phase is ultima is buffed up and upgraded and uses his clones as a weapon the third phase is ifrit vs ifrit a match up and the final phase is using every eikon abilities via qte
Yeah, they realized they can make cutscenes playable with QTEs so you're not putting the controller down for minutes at a time, while still telling the story they want to tell.
It's cool unless you're one of those people that actually likes putting their controller down for 5 minutes