Shine 2017 SSBM - TSM | Leffen (Fox) vs FOX MVG | Mew2king (Marth) - Melee LQ

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  • Опубліковано 26 сер 2017
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  • @munnawarhashim1933
    @munnawarhashim1933 7 років тому +45

    This was an incredible match. The rising mew2king on fountain of dreams was so epic.

  • @1000g2g3g4g800999
    @1000g2g3g4g800999 6 років тому +53

    10:03 Gilbert Gottfried yells "KILL HIM!"

  • @1122markj
    @1122markj 4 роки тому +25

    5:21 is THE most Wispy moment I've ever seen in my life! It's so perfect It's scary!

  • @BlackWhite1148
    @BlackWhite1148 7 років тому +9

    Thank you Leffen for giving GRsmash more material. It's been a long time since he made a Leffen getting rekt video.

  • @AU_Ocelot
    @AU_Ocelot 7 років тому +203

    New Video: Why the Marth- Fox match up is 100-0

    • @juniors8745
      @juniors8745 6 років тому

      i don t think that

    • @penalobi9002
      @penalobi9002 6 років тому +1

      Fox beat marth

    • @moncay3238
      @moncay3238 4 роки тому +3

      Peña Lobi No

    • @johnnycrash4892
      @johnnycrash4892 4 роки тому

      Fox doesn't lose, he's fox!

    • @AU_Ocelot
      @AU_Ocelot 4 роки тому +2

      @@juniors8745 I don't either, I'm a Marth main. Just poking fun at leffen. He made a video about this being 60-40 in favor of marth.

  • @3Qz_
    @3Qz_ 7 років тому +237

    What a set between Chu and M2k! It was really close! Good shit to Chu!

    • @viggokan
      @viggokan 7 років тому

      Ricky Ricardo 😂

  • @RebeCelebi
    @RebeCelebi 7 років тому +57

    The match will be replayed because TV had 11 dead pixels and the max tournament legal are 8.

    • @awdno4985
      @awdno4985 5 років тому

      Reddo lol

    • @Adaminho89
      @Adaminho89 5 років тому

      What is a dead pixel

    • @Adaminho89
      @Adaminho89 5 років тому

      Louis Roth II why you....
      Y U BULLY ME

    • @hhhhhh-vi6sq
      @hhhhhh-vi6sq 5 років тому +1

      @@Adaminho89 Dead Pixels Are Black Pixels Wich Aren't Supposed To Be There, And The TV Generates For A Reason I Don't Know

    • @Adaminho89
      @Adaminho89 5 років тому

      BupsAreA DyingRace ok thanks

  • @I_Rayne_I
    @I_Rayne_I 6 років тому +10

    6:36 _"Let's go, ChuDat!"_
    Fucking amazing.

  • @metaknight2941
    @metaknight2941 6 років тому +3

    9:33 - 10:58
    Absolutely amazing survivals by Leffen. Most entertaining segment of SSBM I've seen at Shine. Well played.

  • @colindoyle735
    @colindoyle735 7 років тому +69

    they should have replayed this set, leffen stubbed his toe a few minutes before. huge disadvantage

  • @Drakalin
    @Drakalin 7 років тому +8

    this match was amazing, holy god. My heart was pounding so hard!

  • @EnriqueBF96
    @EnriqueBF96 7 років тому +33

    4:12 where did that extra 1% come from?

    • @rammenmaster96
      @rammenmaster96 7 років тому +31

      I guess he was off camera just long enough to take damage, though it is pretty weird to see that happen onstage.

  • @Contradi
    @Contradi 7 років тому +54

    I'm sorry, are we not going to talk about that PERFECT juke at 2:00?

    • @dr_rl123
      @dr_rl123 7 років тому +15

      M2k with that frame perfect stuff strikes again

  • @MrWingzeroo
    @MrWingzeroo 7 років тому +4

    finally a good fun exciting set between these two. Everytime I watch these guys play it always seems like a mom's spaghetti pasta fiesta.

  • @Veecee11
    @Veecee11 7 років тому +53

    Can we just take a moment to respect the skill of both players...M2K managed to edge cancel off of Randal out of Marths up b which is hard because you don't have much lateral movement and EVEN THEN Leffen covered that option. Blows my mind

    • @Sauceguy241
      @Sauceguy241 6 років тому +1

      VPJC seriously.. I like to play this game netplay sometimes but these players make me look like a god damn fool.

  • @TheSleepKing
    @TheSleepKing Рік тому +3

    Damn, Chudat played really well this set

  • @samuelvibritannia4831
    @samuelvibritannia4831 7 років тому +22

    Leffen was playing pretty well this set, and M2K not quite as well as normal, but M2K is too solid in the matchup regardless.

  • @ElDrHouse2010
    @ElDrHouse2010 6 років тому +2

    Sick M2K movement & gameplay.

  • @itzyaboicloud8735
    @itzyaboicloud8735 7 років тому +1

    Great set.

  • @calebrobinson6406
    @calebrobinson6406 7 років тому +1

    Marth ledge attack is in the z axis, it often wiffs

  • @og6977
    @og6977 6 років тому +2

    Did anyone see Carrot top in the crowd or was that just me

  • @aestheticdogg613
    @aestheticdogg613 7 років тому +1

    Hail to MewChuKing!

  • @BalboaBaggins
    @BalboaBaggins 2 роки тому

    All hail the King!

  • @Varde1234
    @Varde1234 7 років тому

    Why is the stream boarder taking up a third of the screen?

  • @jeofickles2771
    @jeofickles2771 7 років тому +1

    M2K: Lord of Justice

  • @Skaasi
    @Skaasi 7 років тому +1

    m2ks marth swags so hard sometimes

  • @alexman159
    @alexman159 4 роки тому

    Wtf the game is like 60 percent of screen I can’t see shit on my phone.

  • @zumie3285
    @zumie3285 2 роки тому

    I heard lets go Jason like a million times

  • @KikuChalkz
    @KikuChalkz 2 роки тому

    BATTLE OF THE GODS

  • @xllTATARAllx
    @xllTATARAllx 7 років тому +3

    I love you m2k!!! XD

  • @joshuaciappara8872
    @joshuaciappara8872 7 років тому +1

    Do we ever see the character select screen in this video? I wanna make sure UCF is on, just in case we need to redo this set.

  • @thebuttersaur
    @thebuttersaur 7 років тому +1

    "LET'S GO JASON!"

  • @kkonabill95
    @kkonabill95 2 роки тому

    LET'S GO JASOOON

  • @ryngtolu4334
    @ryngtolu4334 7 років тому +2

    Looks like i'm late for the 40-60 joke :(

  • @ayrtonpavot3096
    @ayrtonpavot3096 Рік тому +1

    My absolute favorite matchup, love to see M2K dicing leffen

  • @jeanosorio1
    @jeanosorio1 7 років тому +7

    So why is there so much hear on leffen? o.o did i miss something?

    • @benjoleo
      @benjoleo 7 років тому +21

      Jean Osorio people always hate Leffen. Right now they're this vocal because Leffen and Chudat replayed their match and Leffen lost in the first, but won in the second.
      The match was replayed because Universal Controller fix wasn't turned on in the first one.

    • @guillaumegalienne6351
      @guillaumegalienne6351 7 років тому +17

      It's fun because it's not Leffen's fault if the fix wasn't turned on. And always that "USA" stupid chant... When you play Melee you cheer for the player or the character you prefer, or his style, not your country it's stupid... That bullshit is there since Mang0 - Leffen many years ago. Stop that shit.
      + People considering Chudat worths it better than Leffen are you kidding me ? IC wobbling ? Fuck that shit...

    • @iSoLazii
      @iSoLazii 6 років тому +3

      Jean Osorio I know right! I'm still wondering why people hate on Leffen so much, even before this incident.
      I'm not a fan of his, but he is really good, lol.

  • @robertoperalta5200
    @robertoperalta5200 4 місяці тому

    not UA-cam recommending a 6 years old tournament of melee, is this a sign?

  • @turts0890
    @turts0890 7 років тому

    Can anyone plz explain to me the controversy between Leffen?

    • @alixlaphaise4116
      @alixlaphaise4116 7 років тому +1

      Alexis Lopez Apparently the TO's made a screw up in the Leffen vs Chu matchb(something about Universal Controller Fix, idk), resulting in Leffen not being able to do super important stuff like shield drops and stuff. So after he lost, he asked to replay the set after fixing it. The second time around, he won, and ppl are now salty assholes because he won when it was played on fair terms.

    • @Prodigial
      @Prodigial 7 років тому +7

      He played 5 games. All 5. Once something is logged in the books, it's official. Name a single sports organization that has every had two teams replay a series due to missed/bad calls or a mistake by the officials. Teams and players get screwed. It happens. Redoing the set is one of the most unprofessional things I've seen from the Melee community, but then I guess the whole scene is going unprofessional. Pros get special treatment, and it's not even close to disputable. They show up late to matches, do insanely long handwarmers that make the even go over time, get coached mid set when the rules explicitly state that is illegal, and get sets reversed. Should EVERYONE who played a set on that TV be allowed to redo their games? Should we go and redo pools? What about everyone who played a top 96 match on that TV? Why does Leffen alone get the redo? The whole situation is just so scummy. It's not Leffen's fault, but the set should have stood.

    • @jawbreakerHxC
      @jawbreakerHxC 7 років тому +1

      Alix La Phaise Yeah because vanilla melee is on totally unfair terms

    • @MeatSlushie0421
      @MeatSlushie0421 5 років тому

      There's so much Leffen salt everywhere in these comments

    • @MeatSlushie0421
      @MeatSlushie0421 5 років тому

      I love it

  • @chocobokei2708
    @chocobokei2708 7 років тому +3

    aww m2k

  • @brantmkw4783
    @brantmkw4783 6 років тому +4

    *MARTH FOX IS 110/-10*

  • @frebo2541
    @frebo2541 7 років тому

    Leffen played so well yet still lost o.o

  • @jawbreakerHxC
    @jawbreakerHxC 7 років тому +4

    Vanilla Melee is banned

  • @shady8045
    @shady8045 3 роки тому

    why are people meming about chudat? what happened

    • @theseb5981
      @theseb5981 Рік тому +2

      ChuDat won a set vs Leffen on vanilla Melee (UCF was off). Leffen did not say a word until the SET WAS OVER, then he won the rematch that they played (with UCF on).

  • @ryanc4185
    @ryanc4185 4 роки тому

    leffens ado hittin hard

  • @Light_Repairman
    @Light_Repairman 7 років тому +7

    "look how clean he is with his edge guards" doesn't edge guard

  • @TheGiga40
    @TheGiga40 7 років тому +2

    the movement in this match was mind blowing holy shit

  • @Pokecatchofthestars
    @Pokecatchofthestars 7 років тому

    go jason!!!

  • @derpydayha
    @derpydayha 7 років тому

    Can we talk about m2k please. He went so ham this set lol

  • @MoJoProfessional
    @MoJoProfessional 7 років тому +1

    I think Leffen needs to study Marth more to learn how M2k plays him. Also, maybe choose a counterpick character to Marth like sheik or something and train.

    • @scottellis1204
      @scottellis1204 7 років тому

      MoJo Pro agreed on the study part. Leffens recent study into marth really shows here too. Tbh I don't think the counterpick is needed

    • @angelredvivar
      @angelredvivar 7 років тому +1

      MoJo Pro I think he wants to learn the match up more rather than relying on another character to beat that match up

    • @peacelovemetal5197
      @peacelovemetal5197 7 років тому +4

      Angel V Wow, a comment chain that is actually productive! Anyway, I'm no melee player (I play Smash 4) so I can't speak from experience in melee, but personally I think picking up a new character just for a single MU is harder and more time consuming than attempting to learn a bad MU with the same character you main. Of course, there are some exceptions, but since Fox is widely considered the best character in Melee I'm fairly certain he doesn't have any horrendously bad MU's like Ness vs. Rosalina in Smash 4. Feel free to correct me if I got something Melee-related wrong. Either way, regardless of the drama going on, great set to both players! The movement astounded me!

    • @MoJoProfessional
      @MoJoProfessional 7 років тому +2

      It is definitely more time consuming but melee is basically Leffen's life so why not? Just a thought though.

    • @AtroSpecter
      @AtroSpecter 6 років тому +1

      True. He lost to The Moon as well during EVO 2017, with his Marth.

  • @noelramos4948
    @noelramos4948 7 років тому +24

    Leffen fans act like we are upset for no reason, it's similar to the Komokiri vs Zach situation, the knockback affects both characters not just one, people are under the assumption that only fox was affected.

    • @alixlaphaise4116
      @alixlaphaise4116 7 років тому +13

      Noel Ramos People get pissed when the winner doesn't replay set, they get pissed when the set is replayed with a different winner... Smash community in a nutshell

    • @sunayi8736
      @sunayi8736 7 років тому +2

      That may be true but it also affects the battle. Komo wouldve won his match with Zack if it weren't for the knockback being affected

    • @K_v_B
      @K_v_B 7 років тому +1

      Suna Yi If you only consider that second or third to last hit, you're right. Think about it though the entire match could/would've played out differently. The knockback on EVERY hit was different including EVERY combo. No one knows how that exact game would've gone.

    • @WhosPixa
      @WhosPixa 7 років тому +4

      doesn't matter if it affects both players. In case the set was played not according to the ruleset the set/last match should be replayed. doesn't matter who ended up winning it.

    • @logangabold7700
      @logangabold7700 7 років тому +7

      It doesn't fundamentally affect the game like .9 does. Its a good addition to melee but they still played classic melee. The shit they have both been playing for ages. It's a dumb situation that makes leffen look like a dick and chu look like a bro.

  • @ricardovazquez9113
    @ricardovazquez9113 7 років тому

    ayee

  • @Jade_Matthews
    @Jade_Matthews 7 років тому +74

    🎶You're not one of the gods, you're one of the god awful🎶

    • @pmac139
      @pmac139 7 років тому +1

      BARS

    • @CaroFDoom
      @CaroFDoom 6 років тому +1

      we all gawking, looking at your fox
      bitch, stick to smash 4 and losin' by four stocks

    • @saraskyline8331
      @saraskyline8331 4 роки тому +2

      Caro not a fan of your style ain't standing on your ground

  • @user-hv5rv5ox2x
    @user-hv5rv5ox2x 7 років тому +4

    Close. I was rooting for Leffen, but wp to both.

    • @Solipsismreal
      @Solipsismreal 6 років тому

      SkaterLauro dont live in the past. live in the present.

  • @spaghettiking7312
    @spaghettiking7312 Рік тому

    Hype crowd.

  • @Papa_Question
    @Papa_Question 7 років тому +28

    Should be Chudat. Leffen didn't say anything until after the set so he would get two chances.

    • @doperuby4047
      @doperuby4047 7 років тому +3

      Also Evan I would like to point out that leffen had not 1 but 2 button checks during the set yet this wasn't a problem till afterwards

    • @ReaperOfMadness
      @ReaperOfMadness 7 років тому +2

      Maybe he noticed something was off, but couldn't figure out what it was. Easy on the assumptions

    • @confrontationalblackwoman6608
      @confrontationalblackwoman6608 7 років тому +11

      I love how you can read peoples minds, thats really cool.

  • @nickkluzynski1415
    @nickkluzynski1415 7 років тому +1

    Watching M2K vs Leffen is so much more entertaining than vs Chudat

  • @matrixxART
    @matrixxART 6 років тому

    edge cancel dolphin slash

  • @zekehorsman9532
    @zekehorsman9532 7 років тому

    There's very few of them but, the salty leffen fans are funny lmaooo

  • @josuesitopro7521
    @josuesitopro7521 2 роки тому

    m2spam

  • @KenShinta174
    @KenShinta174 7 років тому +3

    14:38 that stock was crucial

    • @biblical_figure
      @biblical_figure 7 років тому +1

      What an excellent profile picture

    • @guillaumegalienne6351
      @guillaumegalienne6351 7 років тому +2

      To me it's the crucial error at 7:24 I don't even understand why Leffen wanted to shine, m2k had no option but ledgegrab, edgehog was the only one solution. And then the match turned is m2k favour.
      Yeah it's earlier than your time. But I persist.

  • @jacobreynolds3917
    @jacobreynolds3917 3 роки тому

    Marth’s not famous for fire emblem....

  • @mitchmayhem549
    @mitchmayhem549 6 років тому +1

    I'm glad Leffen didn't make it far after Chu. He didn't deserve that rematch with him

  • @dontbeweirdrj1805
    @dontbeweirdrj1805 7 років тому

    Comment

  • @thepxlgaming1033
    @thepxlgaming1033 7 років тому +2

    Should be Shroomed Vs Chu smh

    • @Zach-nw9ok
      @Zach-nw9ok 7 років тому +6

      thepxlgaming you can argue chu because a result was actually determined but shroomed was not a lock despite what people seem to think lol.

  • @GRANDDADSEVEN
    @GRANDDADSEVEN 4 роки тому

    the comments about m2k MMMMMMMMmmMMMMMMMM no.

  • @MakoTheFrog
    @MakoTheFrog 6 років тому +1

    Fire the editor...why does the cam on the players and sponsor graphics take up 1/3 of the screen? also crowd was pretty disrespectful here, not a Leffen fan but you can't deny how good he is, i kinda wanted him to win the last game just to shut the "usa usa" clowns in the crowd up.
    all they are doing is creating a we/us vs. them mentality and thats toxic af.

  • @MATTierial
    @MATTierial 7 років тому +1

    F%!#$ Leffen.
    Thank you M2K!

  • @intheband002
    @intheband002 6 років тому +3

    When Leffen was beating m2k in the summer of '05, it was because he's amazing. Every time m2k has won outside of that, it's because marth beats fox. Just hold your L. Jason's up 4-1 in fox dittos if you want it that way.

    • @bigredog100
      @bigredog100 6 років тому

      KickPunch I wouldn't say "marth beats fox" outright. I'd say its 50-50.

    • @intheband002
      @intheband002 6 років тому

      I don't think you got what I was said.

    • @bigredog100
      @bigredog100 6 років тому

      KickPunch Care to explain further then?

    • @intheband002
      @intheband002 6 років тому

      I didn't say marth beats fox. Unless you were just commentating on the matchup rather than what I was saying.

    • @808sAndBlues
      @808sAndBlues 6 років тому

      E B you obviously said it in your comment

  • @Budymryo
    @Budymryo 7 років тому +1

    Leffen didn't deserve it

  • @TheFleeingPhoenix
    @TheFleeingPhoenix 7 років тому +19

    I don't know the commentator's names, but they were the voices when M2K wrecked SFat in that big reversal on Fountain of Dreams. Their bias is so obvious that it's actually becoming delicious to listen to them change tone when M2K wins. Can we force these dipshits to cast every winning M2K set so I can always enjoy their silent tears?

    • @ReaperOfMadness
      @ReaperOfMadness 7 років тому +1

      Salt always tastes best when it comes from tears

    • @thebrandonshow7093
      @thebrandonshow7093 7 років тому +3

      sick b8 dude
      you're a massive dumbass btw

    • @bladeOf3
      @bladeOf3 7 років тому +7

      TheFleeingPhoenix You obviously didn't watch the S2J M2K set. They didn't stop talking about S2J the entire set.

    • @TheFleeingPhoenix
      @TheFleeingPhoenix 6 років тому +5

      @carl you misunderstood, they're biased against m2k. Them talking about S2J all set backs up my claim that they are biased.

  • @sleeh28
    @sleeh28 7 років тому

    Leffen = talk shit get hit LUL

  • @PickyMcCritical
    @PickyMcCritical 6 років тому

    That one guy yelling to Jason every few seconds drove me up the wall. Unwatchable.

  • @Magitroopa
    @Magitroopa 7 років тому +15

    Leffen should've won, so many people hating on him for no reason now. :(

    • @dreadfury2485
      @dreadfury2485 7 років тому +50

      No. *Chudat* should've won.
      Get it right.

    • @enmar66
      @enmar66 7 років тому +22

      wait... no reason? are you blind or something?

    • @atomheartother
      @atomheartother 7 років тому +14

      The TOs fucked up, twice, not Leffen.

    • @samuelvibritannia4831
      @samuelvibritannia4831 7 років тому +9

      Guys chill the fuck out, M2K would have done what Leffen did. Leffen was right to be concerned about the control setups. Dash backs and shield drops are VITALLY important at this level. Missing those matters a lot.

    • @enmar66
      @enmar66 7 років тому +2

      for accepting the replay when he could have declined