BMW Top Box - 49L - "Old style" On a New RT
Вставка
- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- This is the old style top box that BMW sold as an accessory for the K1200GT, K1300GT, and the previous generation R1200RT. Thankfully BMW has not changed the luggage racks on their big tourers, so therefore this box still fits just fine on the new 2016 R1200RT.
If you have a new style RT, your dealer will most likely suggest a new style box (like the one on my K1600) , but this older version is much less expensive, is lighter, much easier to put on and take off and has the same capacity. Also, since these are not big movers like the new boxes, your dealer may have old stock that they would be willing to sell at a discount.
I also included the keying of the box, since this is a pain for some -- but really this is easy and quick. Taking an old cylinder out of this box is an exercise in frustration, but it can be done.
![Дон ДОН, Алаудинов и СБЕЖАВШИЕ из под Курска ахматовцы 😁 [Пародия]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/dEfCf5IK26Q/mqdefault.jpg)
I have a K1600 GT that came with this style box and I love it.
When traveling, it is so nice just to turn the key to pop the handle, lift it off, and carry it into the room.
This one also seems to be a lot more steady than the K1600 GTL factory case.
I bought a new 2018 and took the OEM plunge with the custom Blue Planet paint (option 719) 1600$. It stung! But look how dam purty. And thanks Chris, for all your vids. God loves yu and so do I
Thank you for this. I just refurbished an older style top box for my 2015 RT, and getting the lock rekeyed was the final step.
BMW has another top box which is refrigerated for your adult beverages. It has a solar panel on top of the box to generate the needed electricity. You should check it out.
I have an ‘18 RT and bought this box and key cylinder. I figured, for the $700 savings I could lock it myself and I very definitely prefer to have the ability to easily remove the top box.
Brilliant, Chris. I'm box shopping this morning for my new to me 2018 RT and of course, it's boxless at this point. I don't necessarily need one but my GF demands one due to the backrest feature and her wide assortment of traveling hair dryers, curling irons, and makeup mirror. You just made my ebay search a hell of a lot easier. Thanks much.
Great video, have just taken delivery of a new R1250RT I have bought the old style 49L top case and used your guide to fit the lock. Very well explained and one very happy customer!
Hello Guy, could you please confirm to me that it fits perfect on the new R 1250 RT and your experience with it.. I'm scared about purchasing before being completely sure. Thank you very much.
@@juanantoniorosadobenitez9508
I checked with my local dealer before I ordered the top box and confirm that it fits perfectly. The top box is great and I'm very pleased with it.
@@guypurdy654 Thank you very much, my local dealer told he was not sure about the fitting of the old model in the new bikes, so once purchased I would have to pay for it assumming the risk. Now I can be sure it will not be a waste of money. Thank you again from Spain.
Thanks for the vid, I just purchased a used box exactly like yours today for $200. Even came with two keys. Absolute bargain.
I had a local locksmith rekey my top case and he only charged me $20. Glad you posted this video tho, I see that I could do it if I had to. Thanks
Thank you for the upload, great Vid!
Regarding inner bags though, ever since I tried them back in 2009 & realized how tidier things can be, specially with larger boxes that can accommodate more stuff, they've become for me a standard accessory with any motorcycle purchase.
I have used both boxes and I think the old one is a bit bigger inside. Case in point; with the "classic" case, I could place the helmet upright on one side of the case. With the new one, the helmet would need to be placed on its side for the lid to close properly. Thus, taking up a little more room.
Gold info here. Thanks a bundle.
excellent, now thinking of buying an older style box for my RT
Thanks!
I followed this video and it was perfect. Pay close attention to the added screen shot wording where he writes the message about the 7th tumbler. I messed this up because I wasn’t clear in which end to count from. If you mess this part up your key will be stuck in the lock and you’ll be sad. His directions are clear but a better warning about this one critical step would have helped. I ended up having to remove the guts of my box 5 times to remove the key barrel and line all the closing and locking racks. Very frustrating
interesting that you're back to an RT. I love my 2014 after 5 years on a GoldWing. I loved the wing, but the RT isn't as bulky, handles better and is a joy to ride. A great touring bike with some pizzaz.
+Michael Kallelis You are correct. Having ridden an RT hard through the mountains i really developed an appreciation for a well balanced tourer. I think if i did less back road riding i would stick with the K16, but since my riding is more varied, and i typically flip bikes every 3 years, i wanted to try the new design RT. The K16 handles curves just fine, its just a little more work.
The Wing riders i meet who flip to BMW's are varied, but , like you, are very clear on what they want.
Well, the RT has been good so far. My only complaint has been the odd tire wear on the Metzler's. After 7,000 miles I'm changing to the Michelin's. I'm riding the RT from Seattle to Boston this year (4,000 miles) and I'll get a good feeling if this is my forever bike or not. Keep up the videos!
struts are cheap on amazon and would be easy to add.
Looks like all you really need to me.Thanks!👍
Well done. Great explanation. Much appreciated. Thanks.
The key part was great!
My desire is to purchase a sport tourer, but right now, money is tough, and unemployment is looming. However, I did find a very nice, low mileage 2006 K1200GT. I can only hope that after getting back to work, I'll be able to afford it.
Anyway, I was thinking that I'd like a top case to go along with that bike, and looking around, I went to Shad's site. Apparently, Shad makes the top boxes for BMW! So, while it won't have the BMW logo on it, you could get a very nice case, up to 50L in size, that should mount directly to that rack on both the older bikes, and the new RTs. Plus, for the 50L Shad box, AdMore also has a very nice lighting kit for running lights, turn signals and braking lights, all for less than the cost of a new BMW top box!
I just hope I can find the money to get the bike. :p
+Gary C you will be very happy with the K12. My main riding partner runs a K13GT and he adores it. The SHAD is the number one alternative choice for these bikes. I have tried GIVI and SWM as well, and although they were perfectly functional, neither had the insulated inner liner that comes with the BMW box. Good luck with your employment situation-- hope to see you on the road.
kiki231000 Thank you very much, I hope to be there as soon as possible. Safe riding to you!
Thanks for sharing this video, fallowed your advice and bouht the older version ( in europe only 500 euro insted of 1100 euro fot there nwe tipe
Thanks a lot. Awesome work with the Video.
Very helpful Sir.
Thank you!
Hey looks like I get to be first to comment....So this is the new RT, looks good....Hoping to see more videos on the "new bike"...Ride safe!!
+Sam Rowland My plan is to install a "tank lock" style tank bag and a set of driving lamps within the next several weeks. Stay tuned!
+kiki231000 I put the SW-Motech Ion tank lock bag on my RT, and it is a nice small size for the essentials.
Not a bad looking case. Everything looks like an alien space ship with insect eyes these days.
Chris... Can you explain how to get the lock cylinder out of the topcase? I have seen discussions online, but haven't been able to get the lock cylinder out. I have the same topcase as your video. I purchased it new/used and I don't have the key. BTW... love your videos.
You can access the release pin but it is very difficult. You remove the "coin screw" plastic cover beside the latch cut-out inside the bottom half . At the end of the plastic housing for the lock cylinder down in that hole is a spring loaded tab that faces down --
however, if i recall, you will need the key to align the tumblers in order for the cylinder to come out.
so you may be out of luck regardless.
If that's the case, carefully drilling out the cylinder may be your only choice.
Thanks Chris. I'm wanting to change the barrel in my oem 49l top box and have seen the videos using a little tool to remove it but had no luck. If i remove the black interior of the box does this give me access to the barrel? how do i get this thing out???
good question. BMW recommends NOT taking it apart -- its glued and riveted (from what I can see) , and you may have difficulty putting it back together and keeping it that way. That being said-- I have never taken one apart so I really don't know.
The recommended course of action is to remove the little coin cover inside the lip , and use a long bent pointer to release the spring retainer
Hi do you have second hand top boxes👉👈 can you give me 1? I really want it🥺
Can someone help? I have an 04 BMW K1200GT with a JDEHA top case I am not the original owner and the key I received for the top case is plastic, as you might have guessed I managed to break the key. I'm looking for a new lock cylinder for the top case. I see Chris has located a new one in his video, does anyone have an idea where I might be able to locate one? I've tried several locksmiths and they can't help. Thanks
Does anyone have the factory BMW part numbers for this specific top case?
My dealer wanted a couple hours labor plus I had to agree if they damaged my top box removing old lock set they would not compensate for the damage. I have not re- keyed my old box. Do you know of any videos that show removable of old lock. Great video I want to try to do my old box I'm using on my 2015.
+Arnold Terkel yes-- as a matter of fact this is a common problem when people attempt to re-key or remove an old cylinder. There is a short-cut that many owners have used and it apparently works very well
ua-cam.com/video/CCJ677blYzM/v-deo.html
I have never tried this method, but those who have swear by it. I believe the person who made the video built the tool out of a piece of hacksaw blade. But clearly it works well. Once the old cylinder is out, the rest is a piece of cake.
Hi Chris, I got a brand new top case for my K1600GT and I think I made a mistake setting up the new lock and now the key is stuck into the cylinder and is not coming out. Do you know how to remove the cylinder ?
Chris, have you had any passengers that could comment on the comfort of the rear case as well as the efficency of the windscreen for the rear. thank you and great videos. Jason
Unfortunately the individual who rides in the back of this bike does so infrequently I don't think her opinion would be helpful. She simply says it's comfortable.
my key got bent when it was inserted into my left glove box and I moved the handlebars (2016 RT)....not real bad, but does anyone have an idea on how to straighten it without breaking it?
Robert Nowell use a hammer and a large flat surface like and anvil to gently hammer it flat. I’ve had to do it myself
Hi. I have a R1200R 2012 and am trying to re-code the lock of my side bag. Take off the cylinder was easy. How to take off the tumblers from the cylinder?
Paulo Medeiros if it was the original cylinder from the factory you cannot remove the tumblers without a Dremel tool or grinder. However, I recommend buying a new cylinder kit
nice video, is there any idea how how can i attach luxury backrest (from gtl or RT lc) to 1200 RT 2011
top case?
Unfortunately that might be a challenge as the shapes are different. However, with some ingenuity and the 2 parts side by side, I am sure there is a way.
@@kiki231000 thank you mate
I just bought this box for my 2010 1200RT. Looks great and fits perfect. The best news is I bought it online from the UK for $533 including shipping! Here is the link to the store and the box. www.bmw-motorrad-store.co.uk/bmw-top-case-49-liter-for-r1200rt-k1200gt-and-k1300gt-color-aluminium-matt.html
Now for the bad news. Man, I wish I had watched your video 3 hours ago. I took the new box and lock down to my local locksmith to key match it to my existing key. Well, they proceeded to key it an install in the box. Now the key is stuck in the lock in the box and won't come out. :-( I'm hoping they can fix it without destroy the key or the box.
+Mark Metz it is a challenge, but you can get that out. The locksmith most likely used all the slots and didnt leave the empty slot. Normally you can get the key out, and then use the pick tool
ua-cam.com/video/CCJ677blYzM/v-deo.html
Since the key is stuck, you will need to have a long drink of cool water, and attach a piece of wire to a long thin screwdriver and go into the case through the little twist cover in the video. Its challenging, but you can release the retainer this way by inserting this wire in through the hole on the side of the cylinder (the hole closest to the back of the bike).
+kiki231000 Thanks for the info. After several hours they managed to get it out and fixed. The key looks a little worse for the wear but still works on all the locks on the bike. They waived the charge since they screwed up the job and took 2 days to fix it. Oh, the lessons in life we learn the hard way... :-)
do you have the BMW part number for this top box? I have a 2014 Rt. txa
+William Barroso yes the part number is BMW 71607720456
Bought the new model box (sans lighting) from Germany, delivered to my house in USA for $735 US.
Yes. I have heard of several people that have gotten that staggering deal. It's a little tougher here in Canada, but still much lower than the local dealer.
Great video! I recently purchased the deluxe, powered topcase from KFM in Germany, only to realize the power socket wouldn't fit my wiring harness (since I didn't have central locking). Oh well, the entire box, plus the extra brake light only cost me $1050, as compared to $1600 at dealer. One problem, is the dealer added a lock cylinder for me, but it won't turn. They claim it has something to do with it being designed for central locking, but I think they just keyed it wrong. After watching, I'm guessing they put something in slot 7. Any idea how I can get that lock cylinder out of the deluxe case so I can verify that?
Yes-- I did another video of me installing a cylinder in the same style topbox that you refer to.
ua-cam.com/video/mygeTPWUhqY/v-deo.html
Towards the end it will show you how to get that cylinder out-- only takes a second.
You moved from the K16GT?
Yes. I had no intention of moving but my dealer contacted me out of the blue and offered me a deal that was simply too good to turn down. I had spent some time on one last year and was very impressed so only time will tell if it's as great a bike as the 16 was
+kiki231000 I looked hard at the K bike before buying my '15 RT. I sometimes wonder if I chose right.
+keilwerth29 I wouldn't worry too much. Both bikes are excellent. You really can't go wrong either way and in the grand scheme of things they are very much alike.
do you have the BMW part number for this top box? I have a 2014 Rt. txa
+William Barroso According to their website, that box will only fit up to a 2013. You can click on the link above and peruse the site to see if they have a newer model available. Good luck.
+Mark Metz They will suggest the newer model box, but i can assure you that the number posted above does indeed fit my 2016 as shown perfectly.