This guy is for real! I watched the video, tried to make my own tool (almost broke it off in the lock). I texted a bit with Al, and he showed me a few other videos. I figured what the heck, a lock smith or dealer would charge me more than $35 so why not try his tool. The tool works, but it's not so much the tool as the time Al takes to make sure you know how to do the job properly. Picking this lock takes some patience, but Al will walk you through it start to finish. It's a good learning experience and you'll feel a sense of satisfaction when the barrel does finally pop.
Ronald Johnston The videos(s) make it appear easier than it can really be . In all fairness, I have 12-14 years experience doing this on countless trunks and bags . So much of the removal is “feel” and some luck that though not brain surgery I do know the videos make it appear the cylinders practically jump out on their own . Good luck .
Hi and thanks for the video. I just bought a second hand r1200 and was advised by previous owner that the lock was a bit tricky. I did struggle, so much so that the cylinder came out with the key... However I still can't press the button to open it... any idea why?
Bastien Chabé-Ferret please contact me via email . Need picture of case and a picture of the lock cylinder with the key fully inserted please . A profile picture . Thanks . Tri750@hotmail.com
The piano wire method is useless . The bulletin describing its use came from bmw and I attempted it years ago. That waste of time allowed the development of the several tools available depending on the generation of luggage .
It depends on what model . Some of the older bikes have removable cylinders . Most , the cylinder isn’t removable without removal of the whole switch first then disassembly . The ignition is held in place by tamper proof screws from underside . What bike are you working on ?
Watch this video and make a similar tool and try . For a seat lock you may have to try both directions pointed UP or DOWN. But method is the same . You can try paper clip but metal is very soft . Hobby wire or piano wire is best . ua-cam.com/video/9TEwD6nEpgk/v-deo.html
@@rigodiaz01 if you need the tool, email me at Tri750@hotmail.com The reason why piano wire may work is the older lock wafers are a full rectangle without the anti pick feature . You won’t be able to rekey the lock as the wafers are pinned in if that’s your plan . But contact me anyway for a possible work around
@@classiccycleconnection9334 I'm hoping I can make a new key. I bought the bike without key. I figured getting that specific cylinder out would be the easiest.
The Sport Panniers are the most difficult as everything inside and out is plastic . For these you have to try both ways. The bag on your bench with the outer lid facing up. Work the left side of the lock pulling down . If no success , flip the bag over with the lid down on a pad or blanket and again work on the left side of the lock , again pulling downward . These are not very popular bags so I just don’t recall which way the lock comes out . Like all bmw locks if they were ordered from bmw by VIN number the existing locks cannot be RE keyed as the wafers will be pinned in place . New cylinders will need to be ordered. I can supply you with the correct part number to order and the proper tool to remove .
@@francescorubuano4520 The lock cylinder key way should be vertical . Take your pick if you begin bag lid up or down . Then insert a tool and the tang or tooth of the tool will be pulled down and left . If your tool is too short . Won’t work. If the tang or tooth of the tool is too short or too long . Won’t work .
GSRider only to remove the cylinder . After re-keying the lock cylinder to your key, the key inserted into the lock becomes your installation tool. Be sure you DO NOT put a wafer in the slot right next to the locking wafer . It remains empty as it is when you hopefully remove it .
Classic Cycle Connection Thanks!! I have seen vids on the Vario panniers where you remove 3 screws to gain access to release the tumbler. With your method, this isn’t necessary, correct? Also, I have a top box which appears to have different configuration (seeing waaay more than 3 screws!) and with your method is the tumbler removed without disassembly?
GSRider removing the three screws is much easier and you don’t need a special tool. Do it that way . Send a picture of the top box as I don’t fully understand you. Send pictures of the top box to : Tri750@hotmail.com
Classic Cycle Connection I sent it. Now, REALLY stupid question time! I am doing a 2 for 2 swap with the panniers. Literally swapping identical (2007 vs 2011) panniers from bike to bike. Would it be ok to just swap the whole tumbler and not rekey each? Seems logical but I married a math teacher so I often THINK I’m right! I do, however, need to rekey my top box but doing only one instead of five would be MUCH better!
Jay Em I’m in Fresno . If you are in the travel mode , bring down and I’ll have a try . Or you could ship the case. It’s a triumph case tho. Not a Givi etc ?
Hi hope my message finds you in good health,I have a couple of questions you may be able to help with, having used your ingenious method I have removed my barrel but it caught me by surprise when it came out, 1st does barrel have a specific way to fit back in ( top /bottom)and 2nd my locking wafer doesn't seem to be spring loaded (has it came out during relasing barrel?) Is this normal or should it be spring loaded Many thanks
All wafers are spring loaded . Likely the tiny spring has fallen out . Look closely in the area you worked in . Remove the lock wafer , use a toothpick or knife blade to scoop in the area to confirm no spring . Email me with questions and further instructions on how to deal with this . Tri750@hotmail.com
This guy is for real! I watched the video, tried to make my own tool (almost broke it off in the lock). I texted a bit with Al, and he showed me a few other videos. I figured what the heck, a lock smith or dealer would charge me more than $35 so why not try his tool. The tool works, but it's not so much the tool as the time Al takes to make sure you know how to do the job properly. Picking this lock takes some patience, but Al will walk you through it start to finish. It's a good learning experience and you'll feel a sense of satisfaction when the barrel does finally pop.
Awesome video...will be calling if I can't make my own. Thanks for sharing the info!
Ronald Johnston The videos(s) make it appear easier than it can really be . In all fairness, I have 12-14 years experience doing this on countless trunks and bags . So much of the removal is “feel” and some luck that though not brain surgery I do know the videos make it appear the cylinders practically jump out on their own .
Good luck .
Note the price of the tool is $30.00 U.S. and I’ve switched to USPS Ground Delivery which takes longer than First Class and Priority Mail is now $9+
Hi and thanks for the video. I just bought a second hand r1200 and was advised by previous owner that the lock was a bit tricky. I did struggle, so much so that the cylinder came out with the key... However I still can't press the button to open it... any idea why?
Bastien Chabé-Ferret please contact me via email . Need picture of case and a picture of the lock cylinder with the key fully inserted please . A profile picture . Thanks . Tri750@hotmail.com
Hi, would you mail a tool to England? I've utterly failed with the piano wire.
Email me at Tri750@hotmail.com
I probably have a better solution than mailing .
Q: where in England are you ?
The piano wire method is useless .
The bulletin describing its use came from bmw and I attempted it years ago. That waste of time allowed the development of the several tools available depending on the generation of luggage .
Can one use this method to remove the ignition key?
It depends on what model . Some of the older bikes have removable cylinders . Most , the cylinder isn’t removable without removal of the whole switch first then disassembly .
The ignition is held in place by tamper proof screws from underside .
What bike are you working on ?
Would this method work on removing the lock cylinder for the seat on a k100? Thanks!
I have no idea . I haven’t done anything with a early K bike in many years . Let me see if I have a solution and get back .
Watch this video and make a similar tool and try . For a seat lock you may have to try both directions pointed UP or DOWN. But method is the same . You can try paper clip but metal is very soft . Hobby wire or piano wire is best . ua-cam.com/video/9TEwD6nEpgk/v-deo.html
Thank, I'll give it shot.
@@rigodiaz01 if you need the tool, email me at Tri750@hotmail.com
The reason why piano wire may work is the older lock wafers are a full rectangle without the anti pick feature . You won’t be able to rekey the lock as the wafers are pinned in if that’s your plan . But contact me anyway for a possible work around
@@classiccycleconnection9334 I'm hoping I can make a new key. I bought the bike without key. I figured getting that specific cylinder out would be the easiest.
Hi, how do you know if you have to push down or up when you doi this on sport panniers?
The Sport Panniers are the most difficult as everything inside and out is plastic .
For these you have to try both ways. The bag on your bench with the outer lid facing up. Work the left side of the lock pulling down . If no success , flip the bag over with the lid down on a pad or blanket and again work on the left side of the lock , again pulling downward . These are not very popular bags so I just don’t recall which way the lock comes out .
Like all bmw locks if they were ordered from bmw by VIN number the existing locks cannot be RE keyed as the wafers will be pinned in place . New cylinders will need to be ordered.
I can supply you with the correct part number to order and the proper tool to remove .
@@classiccycleconnection9334 Thanks. Mine are bmw f 800 r sport panniers. So I have to turn on the left side before pulling down?
@@francescorubuano4520
The lock cylinder key way should be vertical . Take your pick if you begin bag lid up or down .
Then insert a tool and the tang or tooth of the tool will be pulled down and left .
If your tool is too short . Won’t work.
If the tang or tooth of the tool is too short or too long . Won’t work .
@@classiccycleconnection9334 thanks a lot, do you have a site or else? which tool do you suggest me?
@@francescorubuano4520
Im in Calif
Where are you ?
I make and sell a tool for this purpose .
$35 U.S.
Email Tri750@hotmail.com
Or text 559-288-1480
I've seen lots of these videos. QUESTION!!! Is the tool necessary for REASSEMBLY or does it just snap back in place?
GSRider only to remove the cylinder . After re-keying the lock cylinder to your key, the key inserted into the lock becomes your installation tool.
Be sure you DO NOT put a wafer in the slot right next to the locking wafer . It remains empty as it is when you hopefully remove it .
Classic Cycle Connection Thanks!! I have seen vids on the Vario panniers where you remove 3 screws to gain access to release the tumbler. With your method, this isn’t necessary, correct? Also, I have a top box which appears to have different configuration (seeing waaay more than 3 screws!) and with your method is the tumbler removed without disassembly?
GSRider removing the three screws is much easier and you don’t need a special tool. Do it that way .
Send a picture of the top box as I don’t fully understand you. Send pictures of the top box to : Tri750@hotmail.com
Classic Cycle Connection I sent it. Now, REALLY stupid question time! I am doing a 2 for 2 swap with the panniers. Literally swapping identical (2007 vs 2011) panniers from bike to bike. Would it be ok to just swap the whole tumbler and not rekey each? Seems logical but I married a math teacher so I often THINK I’m right! I do, however, need to rekey my top box but doing only one instead of five would be MUCH better!
The question being, I am assuming that the tumblers would be interchangeable. They certainly look like they would be.
Will the tool work for Triumph top cases?
Jay Em I have no idea. I worked at a bmw dealership for many years , but I imagine it might . Where are you located ?
@@classiccycleconnection9334 Nor cal
@@classiccycleconnection9334 USA
Jay Em I’m in Fresno . If you are in the travel mode , bring down and I’ll have a try . Or you could ship the case. It’s a triumph case tho. Not a Givi etc ?
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Hi hope my message finds you in good health,I have a couple of questions you may be able to help with, having used your ingenious method I have removed my barrel but it caught me by surprise when it came out, 1st does barrel have a specific way to fit back in ( top /bottom)and 2nd my locking wafer doesn't seem to be spring loaded (has it came out during relasing barrel?) Is this normal or should it be spring loaded
Many thanks
All wafers are spring loaded . Likely the tiny spring has fallen out . Look closely in the area you worked in .
Remove the lock wafer , use a toothpick or knife blade to scoop in the area to confirm no spring .
Email me with questions and further instructions on how to deal with this .
Tri750@hotmail.com