Trying to Stop a Battery Fire Ban in My Building | Nami BurnE Electric Scooter Ride
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Season 1 (2023)
We all knew this topic was going to come up eventually. On this ride to work, I talk about the battery fires in NYC, how it's affecting me, and how I'm trying to stop a ban from happening in my building. It's a long one so sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride!
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While I'm a homeowner and don't live in the city, I am a landlord and do have a concern about storing these inside. I pretty much trust the PEV's, I don't trust the owners will 100% maintain the batteries properly. Most of these fires happen due to under or over charging them, so it's the human element where my distrust stems from.
With that said, I do like the idea of dedicated safe and secure fire protected storage for areas like yours. The only problem is space is at a premium in the city, and that means $ someone will have to pay for.
Hey SS Offshore, thanks for chiming in. As a person whose worked in the real estate development industry and worked on several property management projects in the past, I totally understand. It’s hard to trust some tenants with proper maintenance of fridge let alone trusting them with a scooter lol.
I mean, that type of work should be covered by the capital reserves of the building and considered an investment for them to help increase property value. As these become more popular in the future, they have to think ahead and change with the times 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
What if .. and I am developing... if they had a fireproof locker to keep batteries in ? What about disability scooters ? Most thermal runaway is caused by damaged to short?
@@Vmaxfodder that’s my fall back if they don’t want to do the storage for the whole thing. Storage lockers where the ebike batteries can go and we have the bike itself in the apartment. That should open up space for the escooters in the garage. 🙏🏼
@@Vmaxfodder Most of these scooters and many PEV's in general do not have (easily) removable batteries. Most fires are typically from over charging or battery voltage getting too low, basically BMS failures or user error.
@ssoffshore5111 I'm making my scooter with removable batteries 2 . Huge batteries! And a removable battery box.
eBikes, PEV and all eVehicles are the future already here, so now really is the time to start embracing them and discussions to stay safe. Good luck with the board - I hope they see sense!
Hi lollett, thanks for watching the video and thank you for chiming in. I agree with you, these PEVs will evolve into the future of personal micro-mobility and folks have to accept that. I understand change is scary but it’s already here and they gotta stop getting all their info from the news lol.
Thank you! I need all the luck in the world and I hope they’re reasonable 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Came here from your other video and it didn't age well with the Lower East Side Ebike shop fire. Strangely enough I'm the only one at my job that actually uses and E-Scooter / Ebike to get to work so upper management after the recent fire so close to our HQs building was going to ban me from storing my PEVs at our office buildings. Strangely enough a lot of people are fear driven and they just run with whatever bullet points or gossip they hear. One of my biggest counter arguments to this was when you look at electronics do you have this irrational fear. Most people don't even know that their cell phones and the company laptops they abuse also have lithium ion batteries just like PEVs(I showed them one of the tagged decade old laptop marked for disposal with an expanded battery that had warped the casing and then a video of a laptop lith ion battery exploding), I also asked management if they were afraid about the Tesla's with Lith Ion batteries 10x the size of my scooter charging in their garages. Once you start to put into perspective that Lith Ion batteries are just a part of many aspects of your daily life people start to understand. And its good to see that the community acknowledges that its the battery abuse and jerry rigging of cheap batteries, power mods, and controllers that are ultimately causing these fires. In the end I was able to get them to back down but they have banned me from charging any PEVs are work which to me seems like a fair compromise if it will make them feel better. I just don't want to have to lock my PEVs on the street and risk people touching / stealing it I can responsibly charge my stuff at home.
Thanks for chiming in. I definitely need to stop talking about it because every time I say things like "wow its been great" there's another damn fire... I've definitely have those counter arguments in my presentation that I have prepared for my building. The only other things that I added to the list were sources of fire that are a bigger issue in NYC than PEV's (which seem to be getting alot of press compared to the thousands of fires related to things like smoking in the apartments and poorly made space heaters). The timing of the media coverage is just too convenient with the plan to release congestion pricing in the city lol. I told them "If you really want to talk about safety and protection from fires, I'd like you to work on all these other possible fire sources that are currently allowed in our building."
I really hope you succeed in this and make the entire city both aware of this and the solutions for this. Many individuals will want micro mobility to be banned for arbitrary reasons, but it's not because of fires it's also because of outside influence by auto manufacturers and those who support them in the light and from the shadows.
The messed up fact is that, during the horse drawn wagons and personal horse, anyone could walk in the streets with no issues and cross wherever they like. Then during the start of the car age if you did that you get either finned or arrested for Jaywalking. Big car businesses lobbied for this to be a law. Now at present we as riders face a similar fate because we are encroaching on their territory. Car manufacturers are feeling the squeeze, from the generations X thru present not purchasing cars and using alternative methods for commuting.
Making batteries safer is a good start, but in a city like New York, micro mobility, bikes, public transportation and limited taxi services would really revive Manhattan. Cars require way too much infrastructure just to maintain the vehicle, while scooters and bike require very little. Not to mention that E-Bike and E-Scooters are cheaper to purchase and maintain than a car.
Education is key overall but because of how many individuals have been programed into believing what they are told, we may have an issue.
Also, for the Karen's who want to ban alternative methods of transportation hold on to that stupidity, because when fossil fuels runs out don't ask us for help, don't get a micro mobility device. Just haul that 3 to 7 thousand pound vehicle to the junk yard and walk. Don't treat us like the bad guys and gals because we're making our situation work. Blame yourselves for not acting like a human being.
Hey Nick, thanks for watching the video and taking the time to write a detailed comment like this. I agree with all your points. It’s funny because the same group of people keep pushing their agenda on us regardless of topic. These same people are the same people that keep telling me, “use a real form of transportation like we used to” or “if you don’t like it then get out of the building”… Its a shame that people like that exist.
I appreciate your support and I’ll definitely keep y’all posted on what goes down after the next general meeting and after my presentation.
@@eyebahnrides stop if you heard this before, they need to visit the museum of Tolerance........ 😂😂😂😂
@@DT-Nicky lol facts. Btw, fun little fact I came across my research and something i knew from working in Real Estate:
"Space heaters cause about 1,700 fires a year nationwide. According to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA), they are the culprits in 81% of fatal house fires caused by heat"
I enjoy listening to you talk. I sure would love to come there and ride around with you in some leisure time.
Hey Area one, thanks for watching the video! I'm glad you enjoyed it. If you can make it down and there's a group ride that would be a fun ride. Based on my work schedule its always tough coordinating with folks for rides, thats why most of my content is solo riding while commuting =(. Occasionally, I'm able to ride with others at the group ride and thats always a good time! Where are you located?
@@eyebahnrides same here. That an being near Erie, Pa. 6 hrs away. If your looking for a country ride I just returned from the Pa Grand Canyon. Pine creek trail. Amazing beautiful place.
Hi Ivan. Thanks for making this video. I live in the Seattle area in WA state and as far as I know, the issues with PEV fires in homes/apartments hasn't become an issue that's been raised to the local public spotlight yet. For all of us PEV riders that live in urban areas, we're closely watching how the situation in NYC develops when it comes to dealing with PEV lifestyle. I hope that your board takes the time to carefully considers the situation and doesn't make a knee jerk decision to ban PEVs. I enjoy following your channel and hope things go in your favor.
Hey Noel, thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel. That's one of the reasons, that I really wanted to make this video. It's an uncomfortable topic but it needs to be discussed because the whole PEV community is anxiously watching to see how NYC responds to the fires. There's plenty of videos out there playing off of the "battery fire algorithm hype" that just summarizes whats going on along side videos explaining why battery fires happen. If I were to recycle the content, I feel like I wouldn't be adding anything of value to the conversation. So I decided to share my struggles as a PEV user and share how I'm trying to prevent my building from banning it. If it works, I hope that the community could just duplicate my method to fight for their right to own a PEV!
Thank you for your words of encouragement and thank you for your support. I hope that I'll be making a video soon where I'm celebrating a win against the AntiPEV folks in the near future!
I buy a Nami because of you channel... pick it tomorow... good luck with that!
Hey Kubica, thanks for watching the video. Oh man, that’s amazing, congrats on your new scooter!!! Gear up and ride safe, it’s crazy out there.
Thank you for the positive vibes, I appreciate ya! 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
@eyebahnrides ok that thing is just crazy! I will keep it tame for à while... and full gear too... shoei helmet and gloves for sure!
What's up Ivan and hope that all is well. A couple of things in my opinions that you can do.
1. Give them the suggestion of having the people who are PEV owners, Give the management and landlord the information printed on the specifications of the PEV stating UL listings or other listings verifying that these vehicles are legit.
2. If they agree to build a container within the garage, make sure that they compartmentalize small spaces seperating each PEV.
3.FDNY specs and inspectors approvals at the cost of the owners of course.
4.FireSacks are good for ebikes not escooters. I am actually working on trying to build something where a scooter can be stored. I will keep you updated bro and good luck. Maybe we can exchange info if you like.
Hey Domingo, thanks for watching and thank you for chiming in. That’s what I’m looking to do with the building with the registration. It’ll help us weed out the poorly built stuff that’s dangerous. The only thing that worries me about things like that is it might lead to discrimination issues where someone will feel like we’re discriminating based on what they can afford.
That makes sense about the garage container. I’m curious to see what you’re thinking of for the scooter. Hit me up on IG. I know firesak just made an xxl one for scooters/ large EUCs but options are always welcome!
@Eyebahn Rides always bro and if I may say, discrimination should be pushed to the side for them as not everyone can afford things that others can. All that needs to be done is to educate them, show them that banning this without knowing on the chemistry and backgrounds could lead lawsuits that may stem from it (not from you but the owners) This is a hard situation as the same is happening to me with my place of employment as well as my building. My project will take some time but it's a project in place. Going to see if I can get some sponsors from the city, fdny and maybe the people who make the lithium fire extinguishers. Let me know what's your IG account but I truly don't do social media, if you have another method or email, let me know how else I can reach you.
@@domingoc9721 Absolutely. Here's a fun stat that I just remembered from my days in NYC's Real Estate Industry:
"Space heaters cause about 1,700 fires a year nationwide. According to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA), they are the culprits in 81% of fatal house fires caused by heat"
hit me up on @EyebahnRides and I'll send you my email there. I just don't want to put it up here. I started getting alot of PEV solicitation for products. I appreciate that people want me to sell their stuff but I only really want to talk about products I believe in and use.
@Eyebahn Rides Absolutely 💯 correct Sir! Space heaters were one of the most known problems and did they forbid people from using it? No...not to mention, what else do we use on a daily and second basis? Cell phones have a very high combustible rate, tablets, laptops, Bluetooth speakers, anything with a lithium ion battery is vulnerable but needs a responsible person to not mess it up for everyone. I'll hit you up and share the stuff I have. Take care bro and stay safe.
Keep telling them that you don't want to lose your stuff in your house that you have worked so hard for just like everyone it's not the flint stones
Exactly. They gotta use common sense and think on their own for once instead of just believing what their told by the media. Why would I risk my home and my family’s wellbeing over my hobby. I’m trying to protect all of it lol
U will always have my support, I enjoy your content & I think the way your going about your situation is very professional and I wish you the best of luck.
Thanks Cory, I appreciate your support and I hope I can keep making content that you’ll enjoy watching. I need all the luck I can get but I figured if I approach it in a more professional compassionate manner, they would reflect and appreciate it. 🙏🏼
I don’t under why landlords and Karen’s think one can just toss a multi thousand dollar PEV away. Never seen this much lack of empathy towards PEV owners. Car crashes cause so much more death and destruction, where’s the same energy towards cars?
What the city should do is buy (same $ amount as it cost to buy it) back PEVS in buildings where they are banned in a worst case scenario where the building is totally suborn and bans it all. For a city that preaches about equality and fairness for all, it’s ironic how low income PEV owners are also being screwed over.
I once talked to a guy who works in Long Island from the Bronx and the most affordable way to get to his job site is via escooter and subway. The alternatives would cost him a ton more money.
Exactly, there are so many other things that are statistically more dangerous. For example, those old space heaters that burn down tons of homes a year…I’m not even going into vehicles killing pedestrians and PEV riders.
I agree If the landlords want to ban it so bad despite them being legal. The city should find a way to compensate us. Where are they gonna find enough room to throw all these PEVs away? Lol they can’t run it over because it’s gonna explode 😂
Same, some of us really rely on these things to commute and for work so
It’s stupid they’re being so selfish
I noticed a notice in my foyer apartment,about changing safety…London England
Thanks for watching the video and thank you for chiming in. That's great to hear that they're going over charging safety now. Do you think the use of PEVs on public roads will eventually be legalized in London?
Hi Ivan 👋 I really hope you succeed in this battle and they don’t ban EV’s from your building 👍🏼 sounds like you have a similar battle to what we have here in the UK 🇬🇧 (obviously not as bad) but just fighting to get them to legalise them! Anyway keep doing what you are doing for now and hopefully you will get the outcome you want 😊 nice content too.
Hey ScooterSquires, thanks for watching the video and welcome back to the channel! Good luck to both of us 🙏🏼👊🏼. The great thing is it’s legal for us to ride them and own the, the crap part is we have no where to keep them because of the landlords and the antiPEV folks 😅. An external storage built by the city would be nice, but we all know that’s never going to happen and if it did it would be 💩lol!
Thank you, I’m glad you enjoy the videos! 👊🏼👊🏼
@@eyebahnrides Thank you 😊 yes that’s crap 💩 hopefully they will build something worthwhile. I wish they’d hurry up here with legalising them! I’ve not been able to get out much recently with work and stuff, I’d prefer to just ride it to work, anyway great video mate and good luck with everything 😊👍🏼
@@scootersquires 🙏🏼🫡
@@scootersquiresyh mate I really want them to legalise them here in the UK I'm sick and tired of the British government 😢🥹 I feel like a criminal every time I pass by a police car here in London it's scary lol
@@shaun5761 They need to pull their finger out! It’s probably just some old guy sitting in an office that’s in charge and just because he doesn’t like them everybody else has to suffer! 😩🤦🏻♂️
Sounds like Cobra Kai! Good job striking first! Nice advocating for the PEV community! Hopefully all goes in our favor!
Hahaha thanks man, situations like these call for a preemptive strike. I agree with you. One of the guys running for the board is a NYC DOT guy who is pro pev. I’m trying to help him get elected so he can progress our community’s agenda in the building 😂
Hey where did you get that display for your nami? looks bigger, also would you consider moving to Jersey City, NJ if there is a ban in NYC? It's an easy commute to manhattan.
Hey Danny, thanks for watching man. I ordered this directly from Michael Sha at Nami when I ordered a few upgrades because I hit 2200 miles after almost 2 years. I’ve actually started looking into homes in Jersey City, West New York, and Staten Island. All 3 locations are easily accessible via the Ferry and are PEV friendly. I think if I lived in any of those 3 places I’d have a 72v Powerful Lithium build already along side a scooter, EUC, and eskate 😂
@@eyebahnrides I have almost 4k on my Thunder 2 and I got it this past July of 2022. I ride mine strictly for fun/leisure. It's become my therapy!
@@jessa.3857 thanks for watching the video and that’s amazing. I talked about that in a few videos. Sometimes I just go on these long rides for ride therapy just to clear the mind. 🙏🏼
Love your videos m8, very nice quality and fun riding around with you in NYC, I feel like I am back in a PS4 spiderman game haha.
This video was very informative for me and I think the way you approached the problem was a smart one! I am also a owner of the Max and you mentioned you use firesack for your PEV's and I saw your removable batteries from your bike in the firesack but how are you doing this with your Nami? Not removing the battery everytime into a firesack? Can it be?
Hey Snorri, thanks for watching the video! I’m glad it made you feel like you were in the Spider-Man game 🤣🤣.
That’s currently my solution for the ebike (which is the one they are most worried about). I’m waiting for one to be developed for the scooter of that size. At this moment, I don’t have a fail safe bag for it. I think one of my subscribers is working on one, I hope he finalizes the bag soon 🙏🏼
Since we're talking about dangers of fire in our homes here's some stats that I just remembered from my days in NYC's Real Estate Industry:
"Each year, about 1,700 fires, 80 deaths and 160 injuries are caused by portable space heaters as estimated by the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC). "
"National estimates by USFA FEMA - The 2021 national estimates for residential building smoking fires and losses show that there were: 7,800 fires.275 deaths.750 injuries.$361,500,000 in dollar loss."
Let's not forget the most dangerous item in everyone's house and apartments and that is NATURAL GAS! That is the most dangerous one and do they mention anything regarding the dangers in that? No, but, notice now, they are targeting stoves with gas that it may cause carbon monoxide poisoning but no where can they see that explosions have occurred due to stoves being left on as well? If you think about it, everything we own has a volatile state and condition. All people need is education on how to use things and explain to people that cheap batteries are dangerous. Also, offer a battery trade in program like they do with gun trade in programs. Offer people money or another battery replacement, even another electric vehicle replacement that meets the standards of UL listings and other certified groups. Smh...
Smart move deciding to take the issue to the building management
Thanks for watching the video and come to the channel John. Yup, I’m glad I did . Let’s just see if it actually does anything 😅🙏🏼
They better not ban anything. They pushed this battery thing onto ppl now they have to deal with it. I spent to much money on my Nami scooters to now get them Banned. Screw them
Thanks for watching BigBlue, I completely agree with you. They spent years pushing us into "alternative transport" and are even forcing buildings into "greener footprints". All of a sudden, the media and landlords want to talk about banning the storage of these products in our apartments... With congestion pricing about to go into full affect and MTA about to raise prices, this type of fear campaign seems a little too well timed lol. I'm at this point that my wife and I are even of looking to move out of the city into Jersey City to get away from the nonsense with the NYC landlords
Thank you for this, I’m experiencing this same issue with the management company and a nice letter/ email would definitely and if you can I would like something like that to send to my Managment. Because it’s at the point they are really paranoid about this.
Thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel. Unfortunately, there's no "universal template" that we can use to contact the management. When crafting your email, I would suggest telling them that you're aware of what's going on and offer to be part of the solution. Come up with ideas that your specific building would find useful. However, don't offer help if you don't plan on actually helping lol. That would only make things worse for you and everyone in your building.
Before I approached my building, I did my research and built my presentation around my findings. When the meeting comes up, I'll be offering information on sources of fire that we need to be more worried about and also offering solutions for PEV storage that can be implemented in my building.
I hope these examples/guideline help with your email/ presentation with your management company.
So sorry you're having to deal with this man; rooting for you from the Great White North. Actually, it's just Toronto. We might as well be neighbors😅 🤘
Hey Guilherme, thanks for the positive vibes and thanks for watching the video! I appreciate ya man. Toronto is basically down the block from NYC! 😅🫡
Are they dangerous? Sure. Do they need to be banned? No. Solutions are definitely out there and these types of vehicles are becoming popular so safety and solutions should start to become readily available. We have 6 electric scooters in my house, and 3 hover boards. They are properly used, charged, and stored and we have had no issues to date. Anything could fail at any moment and it be nothing other than a freak accident. I hope you get a good resolution with your building. For my family, our scooters are not so much a vehicle as it is just entertainment. I couldn't imagine paying for one of these as a daily commuter and then told you couldn't use it anymore.
Hi Emily, thank you for watching the video and thank you for taking the time to chime in. That’s amazing that you guys have such a diverse fleet of PEVs, these are those moments I wish we had a house instead of an apartment.
For those of us that use PEVs as our primary commuter, we’re extremely frustrated by the situation in NYC. You could literally purchase one at Best Buy for thousands of dollars because it’s legal, only to be told by your landlord/ neighbors that you have to get rid of it or figure out where you’re going to store it 🥲.
I hope that we can make progress in my building though.
Super 🚀
thanks for watching one of the OG videos on the channel!
Anything with either unbranded cells, or a brand of PEV that doesn’t come from a reputable factory makes me uneasy. That being said, it’s been my observation that a lack of education is what leads to most fires. Every battery fire I’ve heard of in my city has been due to misuse, incompatible chargers, or unqualified modifying of the packs.
Hey Connor, thanks for watching this video as well and thank you for putting up some great points. One of the key things that I plan to bring up during my presentation to my building is using the registration process to educate the owner of the PEV on the best practices for their PEV. We could even let them know that they bought something shady and hopefully they can exchange it for something else. Unfortunately, we as a building, can't assume that a person buying products like these have properly done their homework. After registration and an information session, we would proceed to give them informational packets that they have to review.
The sad thing here is, if the folks that are so pro banning PEVs would just pay attention to the information the news is giving them instead of the fear they're trying to create, they would see exactly what you brought up. All of it involves poorly made products malfunctioning due to lack of education, misuse, and unqualified modification/ repairs.
Sorry you're having to deal with all this. Hopefully things work out in the end.
Hi Claire, thanks for watching the video. I hope the search for the Klima is going well. Me too, I’m putting quite a bit of effort to try and make sure that my presentation is professional and concise. I’m also hoping they they appreciate that my solutions can be quickly implemented and low cost!
🙏🏼🙏🏼 I’m sure I’ll be making a video in the future with an update and to announce if changes will be made to the vehicles on the channel. It makes me sad thinking that I have to part with the Nami or the S73 🥲
@@eyebahnrides Haha I noticed you liked my post in the group 🤣 Probably just going to wait for the next restock even though I'm feeling super impatient 😭💔
Honestly, you have some of the best quality PEV city riding + commentary videos out there, very relaxing and enjoyable to watch, I feel pretty confident saying I and many others would stick around even if things had to be reformated a bit. It really is a shame you have to go through all that effort though, I hope it works out in your favor and gets those neighbors off your back.
@@claire2134 I had to show some support lol! By the way, it seems that even in the Brooklyn FFR that I go to, they only have the 25ah are backed up on orders for the Max! This reminds me of when I first tried to get the BurnE, people were waiting weeks to months for one 😓. I hope you don’t have to wait too long!
Thanks Claire, I really appreciate your kind words and support. It really is a shame that even in this hobby, the same close minded individuals are trying to impose their agenda on the rest of us despite the majority of people saying they want PEVs in NYC 🥲. Anyways, I hope that the people in charge of my building are reasonable and are willing to listen to us PEV folks 🙏🏼
Miss the nami Klima mate 😢
Hey Shaun, thanks for watching this video! I miss miss the Klima too. Unfortunately, because I'm currently in PEV Limbo in my building, I haven't been able to make a decision on the Klima yet. That's also why I've stopped modding the Super73 and I haven't really been riding it either. I love that bike but its really stressful to deal with the backlash ever ytime I bring it through my buliding's Lobby.
@@eyebahnrides Really sorry to hear that mate 🥺
Hey Eyebahn, Love the Reviews on the Nami BurnE I am thinking of buying the Nami Klima. I'm 55 Live in Chicago streets are similar to NYC. Which would you recommend to us older riders who are done using the 15mph the city has us renting. I love the feel but it's time to own my own scooter.
Thanks for watching this video as well Jose! If you're thinking of the Klima, you're going to love the video scheduled to come out this Friday! I love both the Burn E and the Klima. I believe both will be great for riders looking to take that next step in performance and comfort. It's going to depend on a few things.
If you have the space for storage, don't have to carry it around at all, NEED the top speed because of the roads around you, and are ok riding around on something massive, you'll enjoy the Burn E. It the most comfortable scooter I've ever ridden and delivers one of the best packages for those with space.
If you need the smaller footprint, need to lift the scooter, are ok with 40 mph, and looking for something that is more maneuverable, I would go Klima / Klima max. I think this is a better scooter for city riding and urban commuters.
I hope this helps and keep an eye out for Friday's video!
It’s not the consumers responsibility it the manufacturers responsible to make good products. When the samsung galaxy was catching fire did they ban cell phones? No samsung fixed it. To ban ev means you have to ban everything with rechargeable batteries which doesn’t make sense
Thanks for watching and welcome to the channel! You’re absolutely correct that the manufacturers have to be better and it’s good to see some of them are trying. The only problem is there are so many of these terrible companies making s💩t knockoff low quality products and selling it for a low price. For some folks they have no choice but to go with that because the well made ones are so stupidly expensive. That’s why I’m happy to hear NYC actually pushing these gig companies, that make millions off the back their deliveristas, to help subsidize the cost of repairs for their gig workers.
I agree. In my presentation to my building Im planning on mentioning a ban on rechargeable batteries affect the very people asking for it because their elderly electric mobility scooters are powered by the same thing. Also, there are more dangerous things like smoking and space heaters that we should be focused on. One of the other apartments literally had a small fire the other day because someone left their space heater on for so long that it melted itself in into the outlet and burned the wall… thank god that person was ok.
I think a great solution is for the city to make an effort to build bike garages! Some of these EV's are pretty heavy and most buildings don't have elevators/ elevators are always broken. Since EV's are here to stay more people are buying 2 or more personal ev's and storing it in the apartment. Which I have no issues with other's storing their property in their apartment but at the same time some of these guys do not understand that they cannot leave the batteries charged overnight.
There needs to be more education surrounding battery care and storing in order for most people to have a piece of mind. Lot's of people have a hard time following the law so it's understandable that people don't trust other's with ev batteries. More education on this the more people will understand that many factors can cause these fires. I think public garages to store/charge ev's is great for those heavy ev's but also maybe more of a piece of mind.
Thanks for watching Katon! I agree that both public storage and education would really help us out. I’m not sure how they could implement it but the system they have in Tokyo for bike storage would be an interesting solution. However, this is NYC so I assume it’s gonna cost a ton because of the red tape and the extra security needed because people are always gonna try and steal your stuff.
I’m glad to see FDNY taking steps to educate people but the city really has to take more aggressive measures. As for the dangers of working on it yourself, the city needs to force the Delivery Companies making millions off the backs of the Deliveristas should help subsidize the cost of repairs for them so they don’t have to risk their lives so they can fix what they use to make money 👊🏼
What is that striped pipe sticking out of the road? @ 12:34
I'm sorry to hear that there is an anti PEV movement giving you grief...
Thanks for watching this one as well! Lol those are called "steam stacks or steam chimneys". People don't realize this but parts of NYC run on steam! Under NYC there's over 100 miles (160km) of steam pipes that deliver steam to almost 2000 buildings in the city. ConEdison (the power company) puts up those stacks or chimneys if there are leaks. The stacks allow the dangerous steam to be redirected above the cars and people no body gets burned.
Yeaaa..... it's gotten better but I'm still on alert. We're also looking to move into our own home in the future but that's looking like a pipedream with prices off homes in NYC lol
I would probably drive into one on accident. It's cool watching you and others dance around them on your commute. @@eyebahnrides
@@Dissentient lol. Yea you get used to them after a while. It’s like dodging cars, people, potholes, and rate 😂
i see tese batteries that are not ulc certified that is were the problem is.
Hey Juan, thanks for watching the video. Unfortunately, most things that have come out over the last couple do years will be uncertified and we have to rely on the individuals ability to do their homework and buy a quality product. Unfortunately, quality batteries are expensive so some folks don’t have the luxury of buying those. I hope there’s a solution that works for everyone out there…
@@eyebahnrides all I and others can do is save if they can 8 would rather get an original and not be sorry later
@@omen2467 yea, its best to get the original vs taking a risk
Brongoing hella quick lol for no reason I go 50 mph on my vset10+
lol we got places to go! I wish the roads were more open and in better condition in NYC. I'm always worried about dying because I hit a massive pothole going 50+ mph
Why don't they have a fireproof bag that they can put the bikes in.
Hi Thanks for watching the video. There are options now that can fit larger EUCs and Scooters because most of the batteries are not removable. Ebikes are different. There's no need to make a bag for the whole bike when the batteries can be removed and stored in a smaller bag!
They won't ban then they will just register/tax them for safety.
Hey Victor, thanks for watching the video. I don’t think NYC will and I don’t mind registration and taxation if that means I can enjoy my PEVs in peace. The problem is the the individual buildings can still ban them despite that.
Its just misinformation , people buying cheap batteries and carelessness basically. Anyway I recently bought 20ah battery for my e bike and I baught a good battery with Samsung cells not the knockoffs that u see around NYC. U gotta know your stuff , it's a classic case of the many ruining it for the few
Hey Lit Costello, thanks for watching the video. I agree with you. It’s all misinformation and misunderstandings spreading because of how click baity and sensationalized the local news outlets are. You know, I don’t blame people for purchasing cheap batteries due to budget restrictions. I need NYC to push the large delivery companies to help their Deliveristas subsidize the cost of repairs so they can keep doing their job with out breaking the bank on battery repairs.
@@eyebahnrides yes, and we will keep pushing for change thats all we can do, try to inform those who are willing to listen
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Hey teddy! 👊🏼
Three of the Best Buys we stopped in the past two weeks have changed up their display of ebikes,they use to be in the back.
They have now moved the Blu-ray/DVD section (shrinking) towards the middle and the EBIKes and scooters are in the front.
You cant be wanting folks to buy almost a $1800 bike/scooter and expect the owner to "now" find another place to store them???
Hey Nerds World NYC, thanks for watching the video and thanks for chiming in.
I 1000000% agree with you. The businesses have no problem making a profit and the govt have no problem taking the taxes by heavily promoting the sale of these products. However, they go silent when the landlords start pushing for bans.
Especially for those of us who spent thousands upon thousands of dollars to have a quality product to get around the city (with terrible public transportation infrastructure) only to be told it might get banned, is quite maddening. Another case of a small group making decisions out of fear because it doesn’t affect them 😓
I don’t understand why anyone would still decide to live in NYC. It’s turned into expensive trash heap.
😂🤣 unfortunately, home, families, and career have us tied down here.
Me to my landlord: Oh? Not allowed? Guess I won't need to pay rent for a while till you evict me, in the mean time, I'll have plenty of time to save the rent I would have paid you to find a better place.
Thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel Masters1250. I wish that was something that I could do lol
Nami 🤢🤢🤢 KAABO😈😍😍💪💪
🤷🏻♂️ they're both dope lol
So no laptops no computers they all have lithium batteries no phones they have a lithium battery
Hi Barry, Thanks for watching and welcome to the channel! I agree. These are some of the points that I've brought up with them. They also have to ban micro mobility devices that the elderly use in my building along with some of the equipment they purchased to help with the maintenance of the building lol!
@@eyebahnrides right its just such a broad range might as well not have any electronics in the building jeez lol
Remember when President Brandon said " all people must get an E.V. ? Yet??! Now he is not saying it anymore
Hey Vmax, thanks for watching the video and welcome back. I’m waiting for that support as well lol. I’m waiting for the government to help a homie out since they say it’s legal and have permitted the sale of these products for years. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
@eyebahnrides I feel the crunch ! I wish more people were responsible. Imagine a little kid wrecks his little scooter ,and brings it in his apartment? Maybe submerging it in a pond ,and says nothing to his parents ? 🤔 every responsible adult loses the privilege! . Been working on mine ! Looks like it may be heavy at 24s 22p . 82lbs of batteries alone. I found out the rear motor controller will crank out 18000 watts or 250 amps ! I don't know if I want that strong of one for the front axle? Just way too overkill? The amp hr is 110 calculations at 225+mile range at 27.5mph average. But that is not why it will be the most amazing scooter ride in the world ! Thanks for noticing lil ol meeee !
Just be safe don't have a scooter indoors cause tesla are catching fire and they are expensive car lithium is dangerous
Thanks for watching Wesley. Unfortunately, we don't have the luxury of space here in NYC so we have to store these in our apartments. Thats why a lot of us spend thousands upon thousands of dollars to buy the best and safest options available so that we don't hurt our loved ones, our property, and our neighbors. As for the dangers of lithium, everything is dangerous. However, its our job as a society to evolve along with our technology and master the tools we have.
@@eyebahnrides its not about best safeist scooter u can't determine what will happen like tesla can't u risk your life over a scooter
@@wesleybushell3215 I appreciate you sharing your perspective and responding. I think you're missing the point here. It's always about buying things that are the safest options that will increase your chance of survival. You can't judge a whole industry of products based on a few bad apples. I'm not going to stop driving my family around or sell my car because theres a chance of dying on the roads. You buy the safest product that you can afford with the best safety features.
"The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has released its latest projections for traffic fatalities in 2022, estimating that 31,785 people died in traffic crashes in the first nine months of the year."
There are more dangerous things in my building that has a statistically higher probability of killing me by causing a fire.
1. My neighbors with space heaters
2. My neighbors who smokes
3. My neighbors starting a fire in the kitchen because they dont know how to cook.
@@eyebahnrides I'm on about die from fire from scooter in home
@@eyebahnrides my point is its not safe if even the most expensive cars can blow up why v
Can't your scooter u missing the point not safe not worth it at all
How about they ban their overpriced Karen's Tesla from garages because of their giant ass Batteries
Hey vwbora26, thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel. Exactly. There are so many other things that we need to be focused on lol
don't buy Chinese-made batteries they don't have any standers LG cells, Samsung cells, or Molly cells are pretty much safe if you don't overcharge them or let them drop down too much in power otherwise batteries are very safe
I feel like this is scare tactic as well. A Chinese cell isn’t the problem, it’s how the pack is assembled. I bet Nami’s Chinese cell batteries are much safer than most, as they’re packed pretty well.
Cell quality, packing, BMS, and all of those things are things that we enthusiasts and owners are aware of. Unfortunately, the general public don’t care enough to learn about these things 😓. Like I said in the video, the folks that hate PEVs in my building are calling for a universal ban regardless of quality. That sucks lol
Dynavolt batteries are fine too
@@vwbora26 yup 👊🏼