Hamilton on Disney Plus - Is It Good or Nah?
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Fun fact, Lin Manuel Miranda HIMSELF admitted that he's not an actor and his strengths lie in lyric writing.
Sauce?
then why would he cast himself as the lead lol
Dylan Ford What’s a GOOD reason he casted himself?
Everybody and their mom knows this.
@@matthewatkison7526 If I created a play or musical I'd cast myself as the lead role lol. I dont blame him
“Schaff likes Hamilton, who knew?”
Everyone.
hE DoEs?!?!!#!??
h u h ?
"makes constant references to musicals in animated film reviews"
"pretty sure he referenced hamilton at least 3 times in them"
"Schaff likes Hamliton"
Holy shit.
Top ten plot twist
I didn't know .-.
People are really sleeping on Chris Jackson's performance. The amount of energy and passion that he brings into the role is absolutely unbelievable
In the compendium book Lin-Manuel talks about how he pretty much turned in a different performance every night. With a lot of the other actors there's points where the physical demands of the performance sort of override the acting, and it never did with Jackson IMO. Incredible talent.
he was by far my favorite.
Who was heM
@@mr.mcweasel6257 Washington.
@@mr.mcweasel6257 he was George Washington
Someone: *mentions Hamilton*
Everyone in the Hamilton fandoms: *flash backs to miku binder*
Oh no
*You’ve said the words that unlock my memories of the fandom.*
whats... whats "miku binder"???
@@theyketchup4544 "Miku binder" is a reference to a drawing of a transgender, bisexual, weaboo, drug-dealing Thomas Jefferson that wears a binder with a Hatsune Miku design on it.
@@helenaperez4343 i... i regret asking. Excuse me while i purge my mind of that image.
why would you say something like that
Him introducing Hamilton to people: "Do you have a minute to talk about our lord and savior Hamilton?"
No our real lord and savior
Is the potato
HaveyouacceptedHamiltionasyourpersonallordandsavior
Hye Biased N-no, I like Les Misérables
Evan Watkins are you in 2012 my guy?
Hye Biased ghost stories?
may i just say “Thomas Jefferson” in a miku binder is my sleep paralysis demon
i as well 😔
Buff Music Man tbh I love that meme because thomas jefferson would absolutely hate everything about it and that delights me
It makes me want to die
@@camilafeitosa7743 name a person who doesn't hate everything about it
@@camilafeitosa7743 imagining Thomas Jefferson's reaction to the phrase "I met God, she's black" brings me so much pure joy
I thought Lin's performance was intentionally breathless. He's trying to say as much as he possibly can before he has to breath. Like the character Hamilton, trying to say as much he possibly can before running out of time. This happens especially at the beginning of the show when Hamilton is young, brash, and excited about being in the middle of a revolution. You can hear his rap become more composed throughout the end of act 1 and beginning of act 2 when he needs to compromise with Jefferson and Madison. His rap is much stronger thru songs where he isn't hamilton level passionate about the topic. He still gets borderline hysterical on some topics which comes thru in his raps where he becomes breathless again until its quiet uptown when we get an emotionally exhausted and broken hamilton whos like... fuck it.
So that is my essay where I thought lin's weaker performance was used for the character
i feel like he only sounded nervous and talking to fast in act 1 though when he was still young, he had alot of brain but no polish
Damn! That makes a whole hell of a lot of sense!
Yea. I think it was fully intentional. He’s an bastard orphan coming from a rough life and entering an entirely new one. He’s nervous and breathless and isn’t the best. He’s trying desperately to prove himself and make a carreer and learning the ropes. He’s not supposed to be a complete master of words though once he gets his polish, he’s no longer struggling while moving through the ropes of politics and now leaps through them with ease and mastery.
Exactly, Lin Manuel Miranda is a musical genius. I refuse to believe anything is a coincidence in these songs.😂
yeah I thought it was obvious that he's breathless and in a rush on purpose. it's well done and brings something new
One thing I found interesting is that my friends who HATE musicals with a burning passion, loved Hamilton because it was non-stop singing. They said that they think the worst part of musicals is the awkward transition from singing to talking and back to singing. You don't have this in Hamilton. I just thought this was interesting...
Ah, the musical/opera distinction. Interesting.
You don’t have it in Hamilton because the talking is like talk singing if that makes sense? And because Lin knows how to blend music together so it fits seamlessly. It’s all about execution.
There actually is one part In the musical with just talking but it's only like 2 words
Musicals with no talking are literally the worst lol. I don’t love musicals in general either, but I can suffer through the songs if I get some actual conversation I can focus on too. I just really enjoy dialogue and it’s very hard for me to enjoy media that lacks any
@@Effervescent06 so does this not count as dialogue? Because characters in Hamilton converse through song, singing is their dialogue. What do you like about dialogue that singing can’t match? I’m just curious because I find your position a bit strange
Schaffrillas in High School: Have you heard the good news of Hamilton?
What's his name man?
Hello! I would like to tell you about a musical about America a long long time ago.
did you ever hear the tragedy of president hamilton the wise
And even in those early days ge was sponsored by SquareSpace
"Hello!
My name is Elder Schaff
And I would like to share with you
The most amazing show."
Really?? Showing THAT fanart of Jefferson with no warning? Cold.
the fandom got a LIIIIIIIIIIIIITTLE out of control lol oof
Wat
I love fanart of different fandoms, Hamilton including. But with shipping, I kind of draw a line. Well... it's technically canon through historical letters than John Laurens and Alexander liked each other, but still, I draw a line!
@@anothercarttogo1819 Generally, I can get behind it when it has historical basis. Lams, Hamgelica and Howardcleves (Six) at least make some sort of sense.
Why does Jamilton exist? They HATED each other!
People who were present in the fandom when that image was first birthed from the ninth circle of hell deserve a veteran's discount. Anytime I see it I'm delt 25 psychic damage.
Why do I agree with literally all of his points, *ESPECIALLY THE ONES ABOUT THE FANDOM*
The fandom is scary
I know and I’m a part of it.
Seriously back out now. Do not follow me down here
Hello the Hamilton simps are here
Clarina Stoneheart Oh I’ve already seen too much
Because you're an empty cup waiting to be told what your opinions should be?
Obviously Lin isn't the greatest singer or dancer. But I still feel like he has a distinct and interesting voice and the way he acts through his singing is solid. Even though looks wise and dance and singing wise, you wouldn't naturally pick him to play Hamilton if he weren't the composer, I think he sold the character.
Seeing those Hamilton fanarts out of nowhere was like getting stabbed
I hope it didn't hurt 😌
Mila Blanco it did. It felt like I was stuck in dry ice while in the middle of the Spanish Inquisition
@@marshmallowallen5677 no one expects the Spanish Inquisition
Johnny Anonymity they always come when you least expect it, OH SHIT THEY FOUN...
miku binder Thomas Jefferson war flashbacks
Is no one gonna talk about how much Jonathan Groff spit up when he sung
He really got into character. LOL
I thought it added to it. King George's character as a froth-at-the-mouth madman matched with that performance. (I also like the character and may be grasping at straws, sorry).
the fact that he didn’t break character or lick his lip or something is really impressive!
It put me off his first song when I listen to it now
@@marioalfredo5542 EVERYONE likes King George. There's nothing to apologize for.
They gotta get a Hadestown proshot out. Personally feel like they are at the same level and equally deserving of being cultural phenomena.
I agree but my heart will be sad bc it probably won't be Damon Daunno playing Orpheus, and his performance in the 2017 version is easily stronger imo
Yes. You don’t know how much I love Hadestown. I’m a low alto. I think that’s all I have to say. Also both the Broadway cast and OG cast are great and I love them.
I haven't seen Hadestown, so this is making me hyped for it
A Cote I KNOWWWWW HIS VOCALS WERE SO MAGICAL the new actor (I can’t be bothered to remember his name) is a passable actor but his vocals are just...the worst in the show by far and hilarious compared to damon daunno but they rewrote songs to give him more singing than DD??? Like I skip over his part in chant and wait for me
yeah but i hope it's not just available on disney+
I’ve never gotten burnt out because of Hamilton, but I was never really involved in the fandom, and I just really love musicals ,_,
Don’t go into the fandom. It’s scary in there.
@@unhingedpenguin4870 Idk - I've been peeking in over the last month or so, and honestly, from the way people were talking about it, I'd expected it to be hell.
And it really wasn't. That phenomenon where the people who love the show most feel the need to constantly distance themselves from "those weird fans, I'm not like THEM" annoyed me much more than people shipping Jamilton.
I've been on the Internet before you know. It needs more than a vaguely controversial ship to faze me.
And there wasn't much more, from what I've seen. The insaner parts (like the fanart in this video) are being called out by literally everybody and, from my limited experience... are not a good characterization of the fandom as a whole.
I'd join you all, but honestly - I don't have the energy to be in a fandom that gets so much shit from everyone. It's tiring.
Same.
@@baguettegott3409 I get where you’re coming from. I agree with all of the statements in this video even tho some of them kinda called me out like with the shipping. Yes, I am shipping some characters and yes, I don’t ship the founding fathers but the characters in the musical and how they are portrayed. I recently made an Account on Hamilton Amino and the fandom was so welcoming. The majority are so nice and I haven’t met a single toxic fan yet. And in days they grew to be kind of like a family. I feel so appreciated in the Hamilton fandom because people like my art and are nice. And now we are often doing video calls and playing Minecraft. Of course fandoms can be scary but it’s not nearly as bad as people say it is. For me it was one of the best experience I ever had actually
@@Igelmanz You're so right :D I wrote this comment two months ago, and let's just say, those were two good months. AO3 had a lot to offer, and yeah, it's a bit ridiculous and shameful, but also - it was a great time.
The people were cool, and I felt it added to the whole experienc of Hamilton. I mean, if I hadn't looked deeper into the fandom, I'd never have discovered nonbinary Lafayette, can you imagine that??
No but seriously. The fandom is cool. I'm honestly part of much more toxic and exhausting fandoms. The worst part by far was, as I'd predicted, being made fun of by other musical theatre fans.
the phrase “miku binder” gives me whiplash and ptsd simultaneously
What does "miku binder" mean?
TyphoonZebra it’s a reference to the jefferson fanart that schaff showed at the beginning of the video
TyphoonZebra binder with Hatsune Mike on it, referencing that cursed Jefferson fanart
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@@whydoiexist4430 I hate you
It’s like most historical fictions. The events are right, and most of the relationships and facts are correct. But it’s a referential jumping-off point, not an academic source
MJVD G MJVD G exactly, thats exactly why i dislike Theatre Kids (not all, but obnoxious stereotypical ones) act like they know all about the american revolution because they listened to Hamilton, i was almost like that in 6th-7th grade, and i grew out of that phase and I’m glad i did before i got to US History. Ive met people who thought that Philip Hamilton was an Only Child and that Angelica, Eliza and Peggy were the only Schuyler kids, and when i ask them why they think that, they source Hamilton. I love Hamilton, and its partially what made me so interested in history, but i dont say that i know US History and just credit Hamilton. You can like the idea of Hamilton Thomas Jefferson and Hamilton Alexander Hamilton dating, or that Hamilton Thomas Jefferson is trans and has a miku binder, but dont romanticize the brutality of the war, the slavery, the affair or the revolutions because you like the musical.
@@snoozebvtton4874 : There's a line in where Phillip says ‘I have a sister’, so if they don't know that much, then they weren't paying attention! (There's also a #Ham4Ham where they do all of Hamilton's children to "So Long, Farewell" from _The Sound of Music,_ so true stans know all of them.) (But there's also a line where Angelica says ‘my father has no sons’, and that ain't true.)
It’s good for knowing basic dates of when things happened and who was involved but if anyone wants anything more specific you gotta read a history book
yeah, it really annoys me when ppl complain about hamilton being inaccurate without mentioning the fact that literally EVERY other "historical" musical is just as (if not even more) inaccurate. musicals like 1776 and Evita get waaaaay more things wrong about history, but of course hamilton is the one that gets the most flak bc it's more popular.
@@snoozebvtton4874 the theater kid thing doesn't really exist at my school there's theater kids yes but not theater kids if that makes sense. So when I see people hate theater kids i always think they hate people who enjoy theater until I realsisd
please please talk about the spongebob musical. it's an underrated masterpiece and people need to know about it
This
^^ !!!!!!
YES. FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS!
Could you please tell me where I could watch it? 😊
@@cheeseisherelive753 Amazon Prime!!!
There is this charm to Lin’s voice that my tone death ears personally enjoy a lot that makes me really love his singing. It’s just my far from professional preference lol
Excellent eggcorn
The good things that came from the Hamilton fandom (yes they exist):
- Introduction to musical theatre
- Introduction to history
- People covering songs
- People making artwork/animatics of the show so the people who couldn't see it live could have a visual medium to go along with it (some of which I think were a little better than the show due to the limitations of a live performance compared to artwork)
- Creating jobs for POC and giving them a spotlight in a white dominated industry (thank you to people in the replies for pointing this out.)
The bad:
- That image
- The circumstances/fandom culture that lead to that image
- People who are unable to separate reality and fiction really rearing their heads
- people harassing artists to make more Hamilton content to the point of completely divorcing themselves from the musical (GalactiBun ring any bells? My heart goes out to them)
EDIT: I know it's not historically accurate. That's why I said "introduction". If someone likes the musical, it could push them to want to learn more. Even if the person just wants to know more about the musical itself, they'll quickly realize it's only loosely based on Chernow's biography if they didn't know that already.
What is “that Image””. ???
@@starlord6433 the "Thomas Jefferson" in a hatsunu miku binder drawing from the beginning of the video
This.
Other cons
-people like Mike Pence being fans of the show
-people treating the show like historical fact
@@tcideh4929 Yes, it is historical fiction, but in the American Gov class I TA'd for in highschool had the students really involved for that year because of the musical, so I feel it's a great way to get people interested in learning more. (And I know that sounds like "and then everyone clapped" but it's the truth)
Now begins the hunt for Schaff’s Hamilton rap graduation speech
Let me know if you run into anything.
Same
heh...
he’s gonna murder us when we find it.
We must find it
please let someone find this
Heed not the fandoms that scream revolution, they have not your interests at heart.
Amazing
Fandom: Oh my god, tear this dude apart
Chaos and Bloodshed are not a solution, don’t let them lead you astray
This fandom does not speak for me their playing a dangerous game I pray that Lin shows you his mercy for shame for shame
About Lin's performance. While I was watching the mastershot on Disney + I noticed that Lin's performance as Hamilton actually gets livelier as Act 1 continues. With every song he speak/sings/acts with more enthusiasm than the last until it caps at Non-Stop and he's golden throughout Act 2.
This could be attributed to one of two things. Either Lin is slowly overcoming stage fright as the play continues, or it's a subtle form of character development. The scholar that Alexander Hamilton's character was, let's not forget that prior to My Shot he'd "never had a group of friends before." With limited interaction with his late family members and likely very few genuine conversations if any, it makes sense that Hamilton at the beginning of the play would seem somewhat awkward or socially stunted in some way, despite being one of the most articulate characters in the production.
for me, Hamilton is like Amadeus: here for the great story, not for the historical accuracy.
There is a musical called Amadeus?
@@tychoderkommentator2989 nope an old movie about mozart
Similar almost to inglorious basterds as well
Amadeus gang rise up
Comandante Thorn There is this a German-language musical called Mozart that I like...
Favorite moment was that shot in “The World Was Wide Enough” where Eliza walks out of the way and you’re staring right into Burr’s gun barrel.
So it went full James Bond? Okay I need to see this now
XO KiraAnimations XO
About 2:25:00
@@georgesikorski9891 As a matter of fact, it did. ua-cam.com/video/2oeRDXgRyHU/v-deo.html
@@cryofpaine Thank you!
“Is Hamilton on Disney+ Good, or Nah?”
Yes. Next question.
In all seriousness, yes. I enjoyed it immensely. It enhanced the story for me to be able to see the actors’ emotions and the way the characters are interacting. Not to mention, a live performance is the way Lin Miranda always intended it to be experienced, and this is the closest many of us can get to that, especially now that the original cast has long since moved on to other things. Plus, the album doesn’t contain “Tomorrow There’ll Be More Of Us” and that scene is incredible, it pretty much defines the end of Act 1 all on its own.
already cried enough during quiet uptown but then seeing his face and he was crying and he looked so defeated...
i cried just a bit more
Me crying on how I don’t have Disney + ;v;
Also I can finally learn the dance moves instead of just imagining my one moves(which is horrible)
Yea. I’m actually always surprised when it’s not the end. I consider it the main ending. Non stops just a quick time skip so you have info for “what did I miss” which gives a very strong entrance with a key character that defines part 2 and the plot being intoduced and it’s kinda a welcoming song not only for the character but the audience as well.
hate to be that person but it's called Laurens Interlude, and he left it out to be a surprise when people watched the musical irl. it was intentional.
1:29
Thomas Jefferson:
• Art Education Major
• Goes to Starbucks
• OBSESSED w/ Anime
• Always Beats Alexander Hamilton in Pokémon
• *Cocaine Addiction*
• Hatsune Miku Binder
No. Just no...
This is the Dai Li. You are hereby accused of high treason and disturbing the peace. Now, come with us, or we will employ more forceful tactics
The power of christ compels you ✝️
begone satan
Marshmallow Allen There’s no version of Thomas Jefferson like that in Ba Sing Se. Come take a vacation to Lake Lagiou
Renee Ra Ra that’s the worst spelling of Lake Lao-Guai I’ve ever seen
Schaff: “If you’re already obssesed with Hamilton, you’ve already seen it”
Me, a brazilian, where there’s no Disney +: *silently cries*
Queres pirataria? É no Utorrent
This is a mood
maybe you can see it on soap2day?
torrentão brabo saiu no primeiro dia de lançamento, não é dificil baixar
drive.google.com/file/d/1W47OIpM9WNnj_cixeERLmOVRo-ibEceu/view
According to Lin, he was pretty tired when they were recording for this movie; so I think that might explain why he wasn't bringing much fire at first?
The show was filmed from the end of Lin's run. He'd been living with the musical for over 8 years at that point, while the rest of cast was only about a year in. Lin was ready to leave. understandably, and it kind of shows. Of course he was tired and burned out.
True
Yeah, in all the close ups you could see how tired he was. Not saying that baggy eyes are bad but you could tell, ahha.. but he did an excellent job nevertheless!
Robby Bevard I saw him live, and the start was slow when I saw it in person as well.
Either way, he’s still not the best performer. I can’t stress that enough. I said that once to my friends because I’ve listened to so many musicals and they almost murdered me. When you look at him as a talent, and then look at EVERYONE ELSE he’s clearly lackluster. His composing skills are fabulous, but the only reason he’s on Broadway is because of those composing skills.
"It's sad for the people who don't got to see it before bc of musical exclusive public" (or something like that)
Me: *laugh in bootleg*
Laugh in 144p resolution
Laugh in 20 minutes of black screen
Seriously, fuck Broadway
So....
Y’all ever heard of the beauty that is the Percy Jackson musical?
Dam!
Oh yes! Is such a good musical, way better of the movies.
*she steals my mascara and all of my dates*
THIS. I listened to it out of curiosity the other day and the line about josh groban in DOA literally put me on my ASS
it’s not that good
But that’s the genius of Miranda: surround yourself with people who not only understand your work, but they can surpass your expectations of interpretation “outperforming” you. Surround yourself with people better than you, and you will grow....even if you created it
Hey, it worked for people like Thomas Edison and Walt Disney.
The term you’re looking for is Seinfelding
@@clayflix9569 Where would the Mouse be without Walt's "Nine Old Men"? Where would Edison be without slavery?
@@runtherockies7 While there's no better example than Seinfeld (ten points to Gryffindor), I can't help now but think of Seinfeld's contemporaries that did the same thing: "Frasier," to a point, and "Everybody Loves Raymond." But yes, let us call it Seinfelding; it has a latex salesman/manziere catchy sound to it.
@@clayflix9569 And that Tesla guy
I'm kinda sad you didn't mention Phillipa Soo's sad scream when Phillip died, I loved that part, it was great
I didn't like that part because the song was so soft and I was used to the soft crying in the soundtrack that kind of went with the melody
I loved that part and also hated it bc it made me cry
She's an amazing singer and actress, honestly a queen
@@peculiarcandlestick I mean I see where your coming from, but that scream really shows Eliza's pain with Phillip dieing, it just has strong emotional strings to it ya know?
Kaylee Washington I think it was Eliza being strong for Phillip. Because at the beginning she’s freaking out and then she sees Phillip and her attitude does a complete 180.
Wait but Lin was literally acting weak on purpose, that was the whole point. Hes playing a nineteen year old who is surrounded by legends and is looked to as a leader.
Hamilton only intentionally contradicts history when it wants to be more emotionally engaging
Last time I was this early Disney wasn't making live action remakes every year
I wish we could go back.
I guess that's one good thing to come out of 2020
@@lonebattledroid4474 None!
Yet.
Lone Battle Droid Isn't the live action Mulan supposed to come out this year?
Yup
I personally think Christopher Jackson was THE best performer change my mind.
Daveed Diggs tho 👀
@@irlgamergirl ON FIRE 🔥
Philipa Su
I agree Jackson was SOMETHING ELSE WOW
I WAS YOUNGER THAN YOU ARE NOWW
Ngl when Hamilton first came out, I really didn't get the hype. And this is coming from someone who loves musicals, from both an audience perspective and as a frequent pit musician. I actually quickly got annoyed with how popular Hamilton had become, and was particularly irritated by the fanbase. It all just seemed so grating. Fast forward to 2019 when the hype had largely died down, I actually went to see the show in the West End (because the ticket prices were no longer totally extortionate) and I loved it! It's such a well-crafted show and I can't believe I missed out on it for so long. Still hate the fanbase though.
Honestly same, the fanbase is scary
same I absolutely refused to even listen to it back when it first got popular and it took me years to listen to the songs and now I regret not being into it at the same time as all my friends
Why do you hate the fanbase? Is it because of them shipping the characters in it or something..?
I wonder this movie has slaves songs for a long time
lol you do you, i love the fan base
It’s not necessarily “historical fiction,” rather, it’s a musical biography that is a modern yet respectful take on real American history. To say it’s “loosely” based on Alexander Hamilton’s biography would be... technically incorrect.
Yeah, having read Chernow's book I was more often surprised at the accuracy than the inaccuracy. Some of the timeline is shifted to serve the drama, but otherwise you can totally see how Lin-Manuel did his homework.
(Also, I'm super tickled to see Edelgard herself commenting on the nature of historical narratives and complex political figures. "Who writes your story," indeed.)
The loosely part probably comes from how historically Hamilton was white
there were alot of key things that were true, but just as many that were wrong, the very personalities of some characters would have never existed back then, the whole schuyler sisters song made it seem as if some kind of equal rights movement was happening then and by then women had absolutely no rights. george washington owned slaves, jefferson, almost every founding father, hamilton never actively talked against slavery to protect his career even though he was against it.
Did everyone else read this with Edelgard's voice and mannerisms? If not I don't think you're doing it right
@@creed8712 what did you mean by this
I love how you can see Jonathan Groff Literally spitting during you’ll be back. Also his dance was the best part of the show
Oddly enough, this is the second time today I heard someone mention Hades Town. I think it's a sign that maybe I should check it out.
EDIT: Based on the recommendations of the replies, I now think I need to see it.
yes pls watch it its amazing!!!
If it wasn't, this is: you should check out Hadestown.
i love hadestown, definitely recommend it
Hope you do! It's phenomenal, and their Tony's performance last year was stunning and on youtube if you want to see some of it live
Same
Lin is definitely a more of a composer. But he is a good actor, and his singing has actually improved a ton over the years. I watched him in Mary Poppins returns a couple weeks ago and he sounded amazing!
The thing about Lin's performance that leads me to disagree with you about the beginning of the play is that Lin's performance seems to map to Hamilton's personal arc. In his first couple of songs he seems a little meek and unsure of himself but ready to play out his hand. As he matures through the end of act 1 his performance grows as Hamilton the character gains confidence and resolution, and he emerges in act 2 as a fully formed character giving his strongest performance.
I think one of the biggest problems with modern day fandoms is that the "newcomers", so to speak, are in a vast majority, pretty young (11-15) and these people can't recognize the divide between fiction and reality.
The big majority of people in fandoms don't recognize that enjoying something portrayed in a book, show or movie doesn't mean that the person who consumed or created the content approves of said content.
And it's fucking sad.
(And not just Hamilton, fandoms in general.)
Edit: Spelling
M Matute Exactly. I’m in my teens and joined the fandom in early 2018, so I was in the demographic you stated. As I got older, I kind of wanted to distance myself from the “fandom” which I view subjectively as “immature” now (because of the shipping, and what not, and the younger fans). I enjoy Hamilton for, not only for the music (which is amazing to say the least), but also the musical as an art form. It has really inspired me in so many ways; in art because of animatics, music, costumes, *history,* and other subjects. And although I love the musical, it doesn’t mean I approve the of the real life Hamilton. I understand that the Hamilton in the musical is just a character and not equivalent to the real life inspiration. I hate when people compare these two things when they aren’t meant to be accurate representations in the first place. I had the same problem with The Greatest Showman. I like the movie and music, and the characters and story are intriguing, but it doesn’t mean I support irl PT Barnum and his exploitation of people.
Sorry my response is so long 😣 I just wanted to share my opinion,
@@silversunset Ah, don't worry mate! It's fine if your response is long, you just wanted to express yourself.
I agree with you, shipping in fandoms has gotten incredibly annoying. Have you ever seen She-ra? (The 2018 version)
I've seen people literally sending death threats to each other for something as nonsensical as the ship (Catradora) because "It'S aBuSiVe".
And don't get me started on the new fans of Hannibal, goddamn Is that a mess.
Props to you for taking a step back from the insanity that fandoms are.
Tbh I had a hunch that the loud, immature Twitter crowd would try to cAnCeL Hamilton now that it's out for them to see. Gosh, I despise Twitter. It gives too much importance to the people undeserving of it.
Most of the people trying to cancel hamilton won't get anywhere.
Watching the audience laugh with some of the lines made me remember how funny some of them are. I heard them so many times that I guess it kind of lost its effect. Also watching the physical comedy that you can’t get just by listening to the album was a joy to experience. Jefferson throwing a pamphlet to Alex Lacamoire in the Reynolds Pamphlet was golden, as well as Mulligan being the one with the flower petals at the wedding
I know I really like having those small audience moments. They weren’t in your face and didn’t overpower the performance but I always like knowing what other people thought of these sort of things so having those reactions was great (especially given theatre is supposed to be live)
I love your pfp bro
Twisted is the best musical ever
King George sitting on the sidelines, gleefully dancing to Burr's lines at the start of the Adam's administration segment.
Also just the entirety of the duel at the end, the lack of accompaniment lands harder when you've got a stage full of actors.
Leslie did such a good job in Wait For It but I believe that The Room Where It Happens was his best performance. Just the insane choreography combined with that singing... Damn. It's such an underrated song too.
"If you're obsessed with Hamilton then you've already seen thiis"
But I don't have Disney+ ;;3;;
drive.google.com/file/d/1W47OIpM9WNnj_cixeERLmOVRo-ibEceu/view
@@katies3062 Thank you so much sir!
soap2day, my friend
You're on the internet. You do not have an excuse not to see things you want to see.
@@JayAreAitch oh for sure, I've watched it by now. It's just that at the time I couldn't find an upload of it online
Well it certainly isn't no masterpiece like Shrek the musical .
Aww, you beat me to first
Very true
Lmao true
Why did you say that like 17 hours ago
Ikr
I got extremely burned out from Hamilton. My family kept playing all the songs in the car when I was in 5th grade and it burned me out.
Yeah, I introduced it to my friends a while ago and got them obsessed and now whenever I say like the word “Burn” they HAVE to sing the whole song. And,
“Should we listen to music?”
“Sure, could you just play something other than Hamilton for once?”
“No.”
I’m not completely burned out from it yet, I can still listen to the songs from time to time but it’s annoying when all they listen to is Hamilton. And we barely can’t have a normal conversation without someone accidentally making a Hamilton reference and them putting on music to sing.
That’s my least favorite thing about a good musical. My mom played big river for me and my brother through out elementary school and now I can’t like it as much as I used to
Same. My mom started listening to it when it had just come out. Idk if it was even on broadway at the time because I hadn’t heard anyone say anything bout it. I was in 8th grade and I wanted to die every second. :)
oh my god im not the only one.
I also loved Phippla's performance. While she was amazing in the cast recording, her acting was beautiful. Im sorry I just needed to get that off my chest.
I need a Hadestown proshot more than I realised
Same lmao
I remember back in middle school my friends and I always sang Hamilton songs during recess, but I never got a chance to see it. I haven't thought about Hamilton since 2016, so it was honestly really surreal to see all these songs that I had memorized when I was 13 strung together with the live performances. I'm really happy I finally got to see it.
Also Phillipa Soo went to my high school and she came back a while ago to watch a show I did costumes for so that's a flex.
I think the real flex is that you had recess in middle school
@@imdyingfromhype6037 our cafeteria was too small to house everyone for a lunch period, so half of us went outside for recess for one half of the period, then the other half we had lunch lol.
shukezi
Daaaamn congrats on the Phillipa thing!! That’s so rad!
Also I had a similar thing with my middle school! There was literally like five tables in the cafeteria so everyone but the early birds ate outside sitting on the ground in the Arizona heat. My friend got into a fistfight so we could sit in the shade one time, she didn’t even get sent home or scolded much bc my school literally didn’t care
"If you're a fan you've already watched this and just wanted my opinion."
* Laughs in Not Available In This Country *
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;)
@@phroginator you are a saint 🥺🙏🏻
alice That’s piracy??
@@dablackvenom7748 i wont deny that lol
alice that’s also illegal
My first time hearing or seeing anything to do with Hamilton was on Disney + A couple of my friends were big fans so I decided to check it out and boy I’m going into the obsession stage now.
I agree with all the points made and definitely that Lin was not the most amazing performer but agin I was able to look past that because I could just appreciate his lyrical genius.
"one of the best musicals ever but i got it out of my system a long time ago" oh god thank you for putting this into words bc it's what ive been struggling to find a way to say to my mom who i introduced this musical to, and she manages to still be obsessed with it all these years later and keeps talking to me about it as if id just shown it to her yesterday.
“If you’re already obsessed with Hamilton... you already watched it but just wanted to hear my opinion”
😳
Meeee 😂
I’ve watched it 4 times
🙈🙈🙈
Schaffarillas straight up called me out
*surprised pikachu face*
Please make an analysis of Hadestown , I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO ABOUT THIS MUSICAL
seconded with my whole heart!!!!
Please I need it too
i may just be over emotional right now but when he takes about hadestown i wanted to cry because i love hamilton dearly but hadestown is my favorite musical and i would do anything to watch it
YESYESYESYESYESYESYEYSEYES A HUNDRED TIMES YES
Yesss
Lin had a major role on the camera shots btw. He has put so much effort translating the theater experience to the TV screen. Also he's said that singing is not is thing but composing is.
WARNING FOR SPONGEBOB: Some scenes were cut from the pro shot in order to fit the show into a 2 hour time slot, as it premiered on live cable on Nickelodeon. It is still a great, charming show, but there may be a few moments or lines that confuse you if you watch through the end. Nothing super major, but still noticeable.
Netflix U.S: Nice, we got Avatar and we're reaping in quarantine viewership.
Disney +: haha, YOU FOOL!
Mario Alfredo In my country, there was always Avatar on Netflix though... 🤔
@@silversunset Same here on mine, where are you from?
Well in my country they only have the first three seasons 😭😭😭😭
@@ameliasv222 there are only three seasons
@@ameliasv222 what are you talking about, there are only 3 seasons.
Miku Binder Hamilton takes away several years off my life every time I see it
i keep hearing about that but ive never seen it before. what is "miku binder Hamilton" and wtf is a "miku binder"
TheyKetchup45 just live in blissful ignorance i promise you you’ll be better off not knowing what it means
@@potatsalad1389 another comment told me. You were right, blissful ignorance would've been MUCH better
It's okay. Those are years off the END of your life!
@@theyketchup4544 I kinda want to know now
Alexander Hamilton
He can Alexander handle it
Lost 150 pounds
Alexander damn he thin
@@argentinaluque9531 Never lost a signal fight
Alexander Champion
Cheated on his wife?
ALEXANDER HAAAAAMILTON
alexander on a date
alexander candle lit
To me, Angelica was an absolutely phenomenal showstopper in the pro shot.
King george: kill them all
Hamilton: how about we make a peice of paper with writing
King George: ugh fine you can go
(Ok but king George is the best character)
He IS the show.
The king is the best character in any musical EVER
I have had his first song stuck in my head for the past week now help, ( actually don’t I like it )
Y’know, I could’ve gone my entire life without seeing that image and died a happy man. But instead, you chose to inflict it upon all of us.
i just want to say that Disney releasing Hamilton was one of the happiest moments of my life. A lot of Hamilton fans who don't live near USA and going to see a Broadway show live is almost impossible finally got to see it. People don't realize that there are musical fans all around the world and unfortunately a lot of us don't have the money or possibility to go to USA. Anyway great video as usual ♥
"And the world's gonna know your name, what's your name man?!"
"Alex and I love Christmas. My name is Alex and I love Christmas. And there's a million gifts I haven't wrapped. Please give me time, please give me time."
"When he was 10 found out Santa wasn't real, he couldn't deal. Bupbeepbupbadupbupboo"
;)
WHY
I heard that long before I watched the actual show. To this day that's my go-to official version of the song.
I never realized when I watched Hamilton that it's basically just songs? Like I don't know, I thought it would have like dialogue and scenes but it's just song after song for the most part, which isn't bad but just not what I expected
SAME. I was really annoyed during the first five songs, but then I just gave up and tried to enjoy the musical :'D.
yeah same
Omg yeah!! Kinda had this waiting for dialogue moment, then I realized that the movie is about as long as the cast recording lol. But!!! The only dialogue they did have was amazing. The Laurens interlude is so well placed, it kinda gives the effect of the world stopping as Hamilton realizes that his best friend is, well, yknow, then it just fuckin roCKETS into Nonstop. Anywho thank you for coming to my Ted Talk
Same but I was kinda glad and I am pretty sure this is how all Broadway musicals work
@@hussainvirk8598 not really. I saw quite a few, and there was way more dialogue. Hamilton is sort of just like that, with most the show being singing. Its really impressive.
"Hamilton is such a musically and lyrically genius show...."
DUDE MEET ME IN INSIDE IS IN 7/8. If THAT ALONE doesn't SCREAM genius I don't know what will....maybe it's not GENIUS but...it's certainly crazy....was Miranda out of his GOD DAMN MIND or what when writing that bit? lol wow. Just WOW.
I don’t understand the genus of that, but I’m stupid when it comes to music theory
@@jkeirejejhehehehe6796 Ditto
@Ribotto Studios please explain
Is the point here just that 7/8 is a tricky time signature?
Mentioning 7/8 time is just how to flex with music theory without knowing about music theory
Some people seem to forget that people can be good and bad at the same time, and that they should both be acknowledged and recognized. Hamilton not only was entertaining and provided great opportunities for PoC on Broadway, but presented a fictionalized, fun story that included good parts of the founding fathers to make it an inspiring musical and get people interested in history. It doesn’t have to be historically accurate and it never claimed to be
So first its about celebrating good things that historical figures did, then it's not about history at all and is just a musical? you can't have your cake and eat it too.
@@goldenhorde6944 What I’m saying is that while it’s not completely historically accurate it shows both sides of the founding fathers with historical information that gives us a relative idea of who they were, not just the “they were amazing” side or the” they were horrible” side. They had good and bad, and both history and historical fiction can show this very well, it doesn’t have to be so black and white, good or bad
@@taral.7128 They were slaveowners you apologist, you're just arguing for erasing parts of history we don't like because apparently saying "slavery is bad" is "unbalanced" to you.
@@goldenhorde6944 That is literally none of what I said lmao. Perhaps go back and read what I actually wrote instead of trying to argue with me about something I never said? Clearly you have your opinion and you’re entitled to it, but I ain’t gonna argue with you about something that was never argued in the first place
@@taral.7128 Get your memory checked, your whole argument was that we needed to show "both sides." The bad side there is that they're slaveowners, I'm not going to explain why you can't downplay slavery and act like that's somehow fairer.
I heard an idea that Lin sounded nervous and out of breath at first because Alexander was still young and inexperienced. And as Alexander got older and more experienced, Lin played it with more intensity.
Yorktown is a god tier Broadway song
Agreed
Satisfied though..
Someone said that they "treated Hamilton as a good guy" as a defence for how it should be cancelled...
Hamilton was never a good guy. He cheated on his wife, got his son killed and that's just the major points of the musical.
A person with great work can be a not good person (HP Lovecraft for example)
I love Lovecraft's cat
Ventinian me too. What was its name? Could you help jog my memory?
@@marshmallowallen5677 Garfthulu www.reddit.com/r/imsorryjon/comments/h0yy8c/cthulhufiled_or_garfthulhu_cant_decide_d_not_sure/
Reading the Chernow biography, I was surprised that he actually comes across as more unsavory in the musical (while the reverse is true of Burr). He was certainly flawed, but he did seem to have a pretty solid moral compass, as evidenced by his readiness to make political enemies by speaking his mind. Even the dueling, which seems SUPER alien to modern audiences, makes a lot more sense given that, indeed, "most disputes die and no one shoots." It was typically done out of honorable obligation; while Hamilton did express moral qualms regarding the practice, there were public ramifications for avoiding duels, and we all know how jealously protective he was of his reputation. Framing his life as a tragedy necessarily highlights the flaws, because that's how that narrative functions, but I was surprised at how many profoundly admirable moments Chernow recounts that the play didn't even touch on.
I think the problem with our desire to neatly place people in "good" and "bad" baskets is that we lose the opportunity to learn from their actual experiences. Even just looking at the play, there is so much truth distilled into it about power and insecurity and risk and imperfection, about how our traumas shape our actions and inactions, about the power of small kindnesses and the mundaneness of great injustices. Lin-Manuel peered back into history and saw himself and people he knew in these figures, and so animated them onstage with a remarkable amount of empathy. The point isn't whether these figures are "too glorified," as if the better version of the play is the one where everyone is profoundly unsympathetic and the audience comes away feeling either defensive ("this was just another anti-American smear campaign!") or smug ("what terrible people! good thing I know better."). The point is to tell this story in a way that resonates with modern audiences and highlights the human connections, both universal and particularly cultural. The point is to see ourselves.
@@RisingSunfish i think he was probably a good person at heart, but the normalities of the time he lived in which we now know as wrong didnt seem that bad to him, well some did obviously, slavery didnt sit well with him but he never spoke against it, but the point is if he had the general mindset of a normal modern person, political stances, social justice and just acted the same he would be gucci
5:59, hamilton is the first musical i've ever watched. i very much recommend for the first time lmao
might just be me, but hey, this got me hooked in.
This was my first experience with Hamilton and musicals in general and I thought it was absolutely fantastic. Yorktown was also my favorite song in the play too :)
Question, to everyone here who’s seen Hamilton live, are there any people who you personally liked better than the original cast?
Sabrexi when I saw Hamilton in San Francisco late summer last year, the person who played Hamilton was very good in the role. I can’t find my playbill from that time, so I don’t know his name
@@dollartreebarbie225 I also got to see Hamilton in SF. I had the privilege to see it twice, once with Julius Thomas III and another with his understudy Deaundre' Woods. Both were fine actors but Julius just shot it out of the park!
miguel cervantes though 👀
When I saw it in NYC, the actor playing Hamilton (Michael Luwoye) said “I’ve been invited to the constitutional convention” with a squeal. It was amazing, and really sold the idea of Hamilton as a young and aspiring politician.
Rachelle Ann Go as Eliza in London's !! She was absolutely incredible, I *adore* Philipa Soo but the performance I saw was out of this world-
So the Hamilton fandom went full Hetalia? Not surprising, really.
AHHHHHHH!
That is correct LMAOOOOO
AAAAAAAHHHHHHH
Schafrillas,you are almost at 800k subs! Congrats!
The musical is one of the best ones in my opinion. But even after a long of listening and knowing everything, you do get a bit tired of it. It broke me when I realized I was getting a bit uninterested because I generally didn’t want to stop loving this masterpiece
I've never seen it before it came out on Disney+. My God it's a banger. I'm not obsessed obsessed with it, but just about every song had been in my head all day long. I really like it, especially because I'm a huge history need. It was so fun to see these historical figures in a different light, and it really got me interested in Alaxander Hamilton's actual story and what he did for the United States in its infancy.
He was flawed, all of the founding fathers were, but I still really really like it.
Also how it dropped some actual historical facts in there too, like how Hamilton wrote most of the essays in the Federalist Papers, and his affair with Maria Reynolds. It's an awesome way to get people to understand one of the most important founding fathers, but also it's damn fun to watch and listen to.
10/10!
Welcome to the club
he was probably one of the less problematic founding fathers tho, still u know by no means was he a good dude
tobias wood for sure
@@monke980 "by no means was he a good dude"
Without them, you'd still have slavery.
@@Gevaudan1471 yeah sure, but that doesnt mean he was a completely good man
I thought I was the only one who found Lin's performance a little off in this version of Hamilton. He sounds so much better in the cast recording
Thank you for that sweet serenade at the end it made my week
When I came accross Hamilton 4 years ago I was obsessed too and I couldn't stop talking about it to everyone I knew (and given that I'm french, living in france, where we have a few musicals but are genuinely ignorant about the whole broadway world, they all looked at me like I was an alien).
And I discovered Hadestown 8 days ago and haven't been able to listen to anything else since. It's on repeat all day long and I've been talking about it to everyone I know. It's just the same story all over again.
But last friday I had the chance to see Hamilton (which I thought would never happen because, you know... the ocean and queue and covid) and GOSH was I happy (god bless the torrent sites).
Now I'm yearning to see Hadestown and praying every god in the Pantheon to be granted.
Love your videos!
Finally, I’ve been waiting for this. Character study of Aaron burr please.
Not the real Aaron burr obviously.
Political Dood The real one was nuts. After he killed Hamilton he tried to take over Texas and become it’s emporor
@@robbieelko9617 He also let NYC get shitty rancid water from sub-par wooden pipes from the water company he had a big hand in creating so he could make money from its split-off bank (what became Chase Manhattan). According to "Nella Explains a Thing."
haha aaron go brrrr (sorry, i had to)
Robbie Elko dear god he didn’t seem that bad lol
Ok, when we reach 1 million subscribers, I want that SquareSpace 'Farmer Refuted' cover. That's the milestone.
Omg I second this
I third this
I fourth it
I fifth this
Agreed, I got excited xD
My brother doesn't like musicals but when I showed him Hamilton pro shot he loved it
I don't understand the stigma against musicals🤷🏽♀️ or just plays in general. I loooove theatre
I’m so happy you talked about this! I’m def one of those people whose passions got sparked because of the movie, and I really wished more musicals were shot to be more accessible.
honestly, having a burnout from being into Hamilton for so long is such a mood
When I saw Hamilton, Lin had left and the new Hamilton (I don’t remember his name, but I remember he was black) and I think he did WAY better than Lin did. And this is coming from someone who used to be a super fan of Hamilton!
The show was filmed from the end of Lin's run. He'd been living with the musical for over 8 years at that point, while the rest of cast was only about a year in. Its not surprising he was a bit burned out and didn't put forward his best performance at that point. Lin was ready to leave. understandably, and it kind of shows.
@@robbybevard8034 idk, I saw him in it July 6 2016 (three days before he left) and he was absolutely on point the entire performance, totally engaged and enthusiastic. maybe he was just giving it his all during his last week but he seemed to be on top of it then
I think you are talking about Michael Luwoye
I saw the Miami production early this year that had Kameron Richardson as Hamilton, and he was phenomenal! Fan or not, I think most people can agree that Lin doesn’t have the best vocal performance.
Lin is a good singer/rapper/performer, maybe even great, but his real genius is as a writer, while the other performers are absolutely incredible, so even though he’s quite good he often seems to fall short compared to them I’ve noticed
My brother: That can’t have happened in real life.
Me: Apparently they didn’t rap in real life either 🤷🏼♂️
Also, you saw Great Comet on broadway?? I was literally just listening to that musical before I watched this video. It’s so underrated.
Hamilton is a loose reinterpretation of that era but it helped me on my AP history exam so I am forever indebted to it
"Spongebob is way better than it has any right to be." Truer words have never been spoken.
Man, I really love your channel. You’re just a really likable and enjoyable person. Plus, you like Marvel, you like Disney, and you like musicals, AND you share basically the same opinions on those things as I do. And even when you don’t, I’m able to see why because you’re just so damn nice about it.
I loved the spinning parts on the stage! They added a lot of movement and interesting choreography to the performance.
My dad isn't a musical guy, yet he really liked Hamilton.
I hope you forgive me for saying this but... I came as soon as I heard
I'm not here for you...
Thank you
All the way from London? Damn
Thank God you understand what I'm struggling here to do
I wasn't expecting you to mention the spongebob musmusical but I'm so glad you did because I absolutely loved it as well 😭
Honestly, I'd be more excited about a Hadestown recording. That may be because I'm a sucker for retellings of classical myths. Here's hoping it happens sometime in the future.