Good info. Didn't even realize there was a 30 Mbs option in 4K. Recorded our first video using the A7IV the other day and it was great having a camera with no record limit as we went to around 40 minutes before stopping. Can't remember the last camera we had that didn't have a recording limit. We recorded in 4K 30p, no overheating and no warning icon came up either. Loving this camera!
The reason why the 4K APS-C "looks bad" is that it's not down scaled because in APS-C mode the A7 IV and A7C II have 4096 horizontal pixels, which is 4K DCI, but the 1080p is not downscaled it's line skipped from the down sampled 4K. You don't want the down scaling if you are trying to get a soft image because it makes the image overly sharp. You want to record the APS-C mode with an Atomos Ninja V, Blackmagic Decklink Quad, or 4K60 Pro MK.2. Some have fasely claimed that the bigger pixels don't matter, but you can center crop the A6700 and the A7C II and the A7C II will have less noise and better color accuracy. Clearly the FX3 has better low light because of the larger pixels and the sensor must be larger than APS-C to get good noise performance.
This is such a great video and thanks for sharing it, I have recently purchased Sony A7IV and the information provided really helps... wishing you all the very best
1080p has way less rolling shutter and 1080p apsc mode has even less than full frame mode. So one reason might be if you shooting action fast moving subject. 1080p apsc is the way to go.
Been looking for a7iv video for about a week and wanted to look for video comparison in terms of filesize + quality in the same time, finally found yours and some of my question answered. Thank you Handsome Mark Bennett's v1-v10. Too bad the XAVC HS doesn't offer 25fps (PAL region).
Much appreciate your video. For my needs 4k 30MB looks good enough. 1080 looks very soft but on the other side, it might hide all the imperfections of my skin. Natural soft filter. I shall test it when I get my a7iv.
Excellent tests. I will definitely look into color grading the 10-bit 4K XAVC HS in 50mbs, and see if it affects my ability to color grade. I'm guessing there will be some difference with 4.2.0, but will it be noticeable? Thanks for these high level tests. Very useful.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis That’s what I’m thinking. I will always shoot green screen and vfx plates in the highest quality. Great video. You’re starting to encroach Gerald Undone levels of detail.
it's decent HD but im a little cheesed its not as good as a lot of other HD modes from 4K cameras. GH5 has crispier HD than this thing. I think they might be pixel binning the HD. if you check a7siii vs a7iv HD videos you really see it. everything ive shot with my a7iv has been the 4K h265. it's perfect.
Yes, the HD is less than ideal. I think if file size is an issue for people they’d be better off using the 50mbps with the 4K h.265 or eleven the 30. The APS-C HD is better than their full frame, but I will be staying away from it all.
Watching this again after seeing a video on the Leica M11, obviously a very different camera, but it's triple resolution capability reminded me of how changing the crop made such a difference in video sharpness. Very cool!
Okay but in clear image zoom mode there isn't focus point... when it comes to crop, I think 4k with full af possibility is much bettet choice than cler image zoom without focus.
Thanks from "one of the people" ... just the info I was looking for. Now I am wondering if the same would hold true with other full frame releases. Also it would be nice to know if sharper 1080p can be had from any of the 6XXX 4k cameras, they suffer from 1080p softness too. Cheers and again thanks for this vid.
when not zoomed in, it is hard to see the difference in detail between 4K and 1080 on my new M1 iMac. But zoomed in it is so obvious. So maybe not too much to worry about. the issue is that there are no 60fps in 4K on my Sonys. for handheld panning landscape shots slowing down more than 80% helps. Definitely, sharp 4K is useful for cropping or extra reach on a 1080 timeline. But if I watch videos and movies I can't hardly tell the difference between 1080 and 4K. Much less difference to my eyes than between 720 and 1080. 1080p can also be shot at 30 Mbit/sec Nice comparison,
I mean it's a 1000 pixels this way or that way.... I think 1080, 4K is not a huge jump in resolution yet. We are all still in the infancy of digital cameras. Why 1080 is still there is silly for $4K cameras.
This is a perfect video camera for crop mode. Down sampled 1080p and 60p 4K and little rolling shutter. If u got a ApS-c Sony camera already or upgrading from ApS-c this is a great choice. And it fixes all the issues the a6600 had and gives u even more. I know it’s 2x the price but worth it👍🏽
Excellent video!! Im using a 2016 hp i3 laptop with 12gb ram and my 4k footage out my a6600 is still to much depending on how im editing so I stick to HD All Day
can’t be soulful unless there’s a little blood shot in there. Many computers these days can handle 4K easily. there’s always proxy files if it can’t. The Sony can actually give you a proxy file if you don’t want to do it yourself on the computer.
Great video! I think my sweet spot would be 4K 50mbps 10bit 4:2:2. I guess it’s still better than the largest 8bit video from A7III for example? Did you notice much quality difference between this 10bit setting over 100mbps one? I guess 100mbps is more suited for people that do heavy color grading. Cheers.
hello my friend, I hope you are well Thank you for the info your work is very appreciated, I ask you, can you do something similar in the Sony ZVE10, it would be great, well I hope answers soon, a hug and blessings ...
Hey Mark, thanks about it. What is more interesting to me in 1080 FF coverage vs. 1080 in Crop is DOF and Low light performance not only sharpness and image detail. Sure I can see cropped version more detailed, but I can also see less of a bokeh in the background and I guess it will be worse in low light. Can somebody verify my logic please :)
Hey Mark, I have a question related to ZV E10. Currently, I'm owning ZV E10 + Samyang 12mm F2.0. Do you have any recommendation on which Polarized filter + Ring that I should get for my camera? I mainly shoot pics and videos outside in summer. I don't mind about the shutter speed(the 180 degree rule) so I just want to get everything inside my camera, like the beautiful sky. Thank you.
A7iv is an amazing camera. Even a7iii is awesome... Back in time, Some russian channels were using a7iii as tv camera. These days that cameras get my respect. Now zv-e10 is much more than my needs.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Thank you Mark. Thank you for the Weeylite video light. I'm so much happy about I'm the winner. I'm impatient to shoot street interviews at night with this product. Thank you...
@@csamd9049 Back in these days when a7iii was just launched, it was like this. Check Cannes film festival cameras of these years, you may get shocked how often they was using a7iii.
Hi Mark, thanks to share your interesting video. I have 2 questions please: 1) I will buy Sony A7 IV, which handyman zoom lens would you buy? I take freehand 4K documentaries. 2) Which profile would you choose to document the daily life of an indigenous population in their village on red earth? Thank you
The kit lens is a decent zoom if you buy it with the camera, but the lens I use is the Tamron 28-75. Great quality, light, affordable and a constant f2.8. geni.us/NVva0Kp I would suggest using S-Log3 with the LeemingLUT to get the best quality out of your A7iv. But if you do not want to colour grade in post, then I would choose Picture Profile Off, or PP11 (S-Cinetone).
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis THANK you a lot for your suggestion. I read Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 is a very good zoom but 75mm is little for me. I need around 100mm or a it more. Do you know another good zoom please?
The 70-180 is crazy good at stays at the constant 2.8 amzn.to/3KciQ2m If you need wider Tamron just released the 35-150 2-2.8 www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1658158-REG/tamron_a058_35_150mm_f_f_2_2_8_di_iii.html/BI/21906/KBID/28274/kw/TA351502SE/DFF/d10-v2-t1-xTA351502SE
Thank you So much for your work !!!☺ If you could make the same comparison 4k vs 1080 in different modes but a7iv vs Canon r6 with writing file sizes - it would be amazing. Couldn’t find this info ANYWHERE. For those who don’t have opportunity to try these cameras in stores and don’t know will their the computer work with these files - this information would be precious ✨ hello from Ukraine 🫶
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thank you for response ✨ if you’ll have opportunity - I think it’s what’s people searching for. These two cameras are some similar, but details you never know before trying both🥲
Why do they bother with the outdated low quality 1080 HD at all anymore? Seems like it's been around for a decade and rediculous to use VS 4K all the way - computer editing or not.
I never use it myself. But many people insist on it - even though, as I explained in the video, you can get a 4K file just as small 🤷♂️. But I don’t know everyone’s situation.
@@geopapa80 It’s an American Beer - but a good one 🤣. Not like the weak American beers - this one has flavour and wins taste contest, You might be able to find it because it is popular.
Dude, I've said it before, but I'm a'gonna say it again, you're some kind of camera genius guru/communicator. This was like, well, let's call it what it is: hall of fame material. AND I went out over the weekend and plunked down my dinero for a A7iv, based entirely on your unequivocal endorsement. So I better turn into Emmanuel Lubezki or Robert Richardson or somebody else of their caliber or I'm going to be mighty upset with you. Keep 'em coming.
New sub here !! great video with an amazing topic. I tested myself on my A7S3 the 4K XAVC HS 30MB 4:2:0 10 bit and the result is just ...... THE SAME!!!... as 4k XAVC HS 100MB 4:2:2 10 Bit... honestly I can't see any difference, but the amazing is that recording at 30MB on a 128GB SD Card I get 8 hours !! of storage vs 2:41 at 100MB..... OMG !!... this is game changer hahaha.... nice job
This is very helpful information for me. I find trying to distinguish all those codecs as confusing as….well, something that is really confusing. Do you have any preference or recommendations on SD cards. I already have several Sandisk V30 cards, but I don’t know for sure if they will suffice when I get the A74. Do you think I need V90 cards?
it would be nice to have 4K 60 in full frame, but looking at my tests, I see why they would want to keep it to apsc mode. if the 60 full frame had been soft, people would noticed. but the 60 in apsc is as sharp as a tack
Hey Mark awesome video thanks 👍 What about if I need good quality without the crop lol so I shot real estate so I really need that wide angle so do you think if I shot 1080 the quality is good enough real estate videos for clients ? I am just buying my first camera and debating to get this one bcs of the crop in 4K other than than I love the aspects but I want to make sure I can do professional work with it ? Thanks in advance
For sure you can do pro work with it. The crop in 4k is only for slow motion shooting at 60fps. There is no crop shooting in 4k at standard frame rates of 24, 25, or 30fps. The 120fps 1080 looks great. Just add a bit of sharpening.
damn...sony a7 iv vs fuji xh2s vs canon r7 or panasonic s5 ...and all I really need is a firmware update for my X-T4 to remove the recording limit (and not I don't want to use an external recorder)...help please ;)
for heavy colour grading, the 10-bit will be your key to success. But of course, if you have more info, it’s better for colour grading (but a lot of people won’t ever need that minute detail)
Excellent work. Very helpful. But what about fps. I have Sony 6400 and when i move the camera in 1080/25p and 4k/25p video is very choppy. In 1080/50p video is smooth.
yes, capturing at a higher frame rate will help with panning and movement. but the motion of people will look a little more like a “soap opera” at these higher frame rates
Sorry if this is not the smartest question - but does this mean that the quality is the finest when you have both 4K and APS-C together - i.e 4k at 60fps on Sony A74?
NOT a dumb question, and I should have mentioned it, but no, the best quality is the 4K Full frame. It uses the full sensor down sampled from 7k. the APS-C seems almost identical. But the 4K Full Frame looks sharpest by a bit
Hey. Question. APS-C lenses like the sigma 16mm 1.4 or the 30mm 1.4… Can we still get the full 4k resolution at 24p? Or is it cropping the resolution as well as the image at 4k settings on APS-C lenses?
you still get full 4K resolution. it used a smaller part of the sensor, but it’s still full resolution. Just like when it does 4k60. the footage will be remarkably sharp. Those Sigma lenses are a secret weapon for the Sony full frame cameras for video 👍
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Tysm for the response. It's on the way for me. I was crazy enough to purchase the G 16-55 2.8 APS-C lens for my a6400. I can't wait to try it in 4k60 on the a7iv! That lens is beautiful.
That’s tough - on full frame the sigma is equivalent to 27-75 f4.2. So a little better than the kit 28-70 3.5-5.6. Bit not a huge difference. and the kit lens is stabilized. I would instead save a little more money and do the Tamron 28-75 2.8
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis I was thinking about the size of the lens as one of the major factor. You are right about f4.2 though. Plus if I consider apsc lens, I will have same range values on photos and video since I intend to use 4k 60 mostly with catalyst brows to stabilize footage in post production
It’s surprising that 1080p in aps c mode is sharper than full frame, I thought full frame should have more pixels to oversample from hence better in quality?
They are just taking a cropped portion of the center for 1080, so in order to get a full sensor readout, they line skip the 1080. So the crop mode which is not line skipped would be sharper. The 4k is far shaper because it is 7k down sampled to 4k with no line skipping
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thanks for the reply. It escapes me why they don’t do downsample for 1080p as they do for 4K, should be the same logic but even easier with less pixels to sample from.
I wonder where you stand on the retro lens debate of things? not proper full-sized lenses but these Nameless 16mm, 25mm, 35mm are 1.4 -1.8 C-mount lens that is under 40$ and are supposed to be comparable to " big boy " lenses. because from the videos I find. no one really goes in-depth without making it easy to understand. there's so much obfuscation. and how do you feel about this running narrative of everyone heading towards mirrorless as the future standard for cameras? are DSLRs becoming...obsolete?
retro lenses can be great if you are looking for some character - but generally they are manual focus and have many imperfections. But there are a lot of photographers who get them for a “look” or they just like them. I do think the camera industry will be all mirrorless eventually, but it’s not like a dslr will stop working - you’ll still be able to use a good dslr in 10 years. I’m sure there are people who will never stop using them
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thank you. that was the most honest take I've seen on either so far. it always feels like someone's trying to pander to both sides. thank you for being cut and dry about it.
hi. thank you for video. i need your help. i need just had video quality for instageram page. but wich camera a7 III or a7 iv or a7c in 1080 had can give me better video?
The A7Iv is best and shoot in 4k. You can choose the lower bit-rate as I showed in the video and you can export in 1080. But if you shoot on any of these cameras in 1080, the image will be soft.
I believe what he was doing was comparing a zoomed in image in post to a zoomed in image in camera 1080 APS-C crop code with clear image zoom. The clear image zoom will be sharper in that case, but clear image zoom in 1080 APS-C mode is not sharper than non-zoomed APS-C mode in 1080
hi. thank you for video. i need your help. when I record a video from xavc hs format and transfer my file to premiere pro-2022 after edited the file and report I saw this error" this file requires the hevc code which is included white a creative cloud membership. to upgrade to a paid plan ". can you give me a guide on what I must do?
I’m not sure why you’re having that issue as I don’t use premiere pro, but the solution is to use DaVinci resolve. it’s free and the best editor. I am switching to it myself.
No science here, just terrible people doing terrible things :P It was quite surprising how bad the 1080 really was in comparison. You uncovered a gem there with that XAVC mode. How does Dougie respond to this type of savage comparison?
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ohh, what's that? Dougie just fell on the floor? Harvey just pushed him over? Damn son, those Sony cameras really have some rivalry going on haha
I don’t see any wild stuff on any of my screens, but it was snowing. Make sure you’re watching in full resolution. - sometimes UA-cam will show you stuff in lower quality
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis ah i see, thats a shame youd think they'd bump it up. guess thats only for those rich a7siii and A1 owners XD. Could you make a "best video settings" video for the a7iv? like you did with the zv-e10?
It will be the same sharpness coming out of the hdmi. It looks sharper in this video because he is comparing it to the a7iii which is less sharp. He he compared the 1080 in the A74 to the 4K in the a74 - you would see the difference. The 1080 is still useable in my opinion. Just add a little sharpening in post
Bwhahahahahaahahah... "tasty apple juice" dudeee! I just can't click off no matter if im actually interested in the topic, you're hilarious! 🤣and btw im not interested in the a7iv at all lol
Science doesn't Lie 😜 Great Video Bro.
You’re literally the best
:D Definitely :D
oh... look who's there haha hey man ;)
Good info. Didn't even realize there was a 30 Mbs option in 4K.
Recorded our first video using the A7IV the other day and it was great having a camera with no record limit as we went to around 40 minutes before stopping. Can't remember the last camera we had that didn't have a recording limit. We recorded in 4K 30p, no overheating and no warning icon came up either. Loving this camera!
I love it so far.
Not just informative but so entertaining. Best camera review personality out there. Great info and video.
Thanks very much!! Great thing to hear 👍👍
The reason why the 4K APS-C "looks bad" is that it's not down scaled because in APS-C mode the A7 IV and A7C II have 4096 horizontal pixels, which is 4K DCI, but the 1080p is not downscaled it's line skipped from the down sampled 4K. You don't want the down scaling if you are trying to get a soft image because it makes the image overly sharp. You want to record the APS-C mode with an Atomos Ninja V, Blackmagic Decklink Quad, or 4K60 Pro MK.2. Some have fasely claimed that the bigger pixels don't matter, but you can center crop the A6700 and the A7C II and the A7C II will have less noise and better color accuracy. Clearly the FX3 has better low light because of the larger pixels and the sensor must be larger than APS-C to get good noise performance.
This is such a great video and thanks for sharing it, I have recently purchased Sony A7IV and the information provided really helps... wishing you all the very best
Glad it was helpful!
SUPER helpful video! Answered the questions I had and provided examples right up front. Need more videos like this in the world. Great job 👍
Thanks!!
1080p has way less rolling shutter and 1080p apsc mode has even less than full frame mode. So one reason might be if you shooting action fast moving subject. 1080p apsc is the way to go.
it is true - much less rolling shutter 👍 But also less rolling shutter in APS-C 4K
Excellent work, Mark. Really appreciate your time in making this video.
Thanks - very nice of you to say 👍👍
Been looking for a7iv video for about a week and wanted to look for video comparison in terms of filesize + quality in the same time, finally found yours and some of my question answered. Thank you Handsome Mark Bennett's v1-v10. Too bad the XAVC HS doesn't offer 25fps (PAL region).
Best start to my day when I get to learn from you and get some Laughs with your jokes! You're just the best Brother! ❤
No, You're the best! 👍👍
Much appreciate your video. For my needs 4k 30MB looks good enough. 1080 looks very soft but on the other side, it might hide all the imperfections of my skin. Natural soft filter. I shall test it when I get my a7iv.
4K is just beautiful! Damn the rolling shutter in 4k though.
Yes, you definitely have to be aware of it and avoid it
Excellent tests. I will definitely look into color grading the 10-bit 4K XAVC HS in 50mbs, and see if it affects my ability to color grade. I'm guessing there will be some difference with 4.2.0, but will it be noticeable? Thanks for these high level tests. Very useful.
4.2.0 won’t be very noticeable for most people unless doing some keying or some heavy color grading.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis That’s what I’m thinking. I will always shoot green screen and vfx plates in the highest quality. Great video. You’re starting to encroach Gerald Undone levels of detail.
Very interesting! Fun experiment, I'll be sticking with that big sized crispy 4k but smaller 4k files still look pretty great!
Me too - just gonna buy a few hard drives on sale 🤣🤣
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Yup 😂
it's decent HD but im a little cheesed its not as good as a lot of other HD modes from 4K cameras. GH5 has crispier HD than this thing. I think they might be pixel binning the HD. if you check a7siii vs a7iv HD videos you really see it. everything ive shot with my a7iv has been the 4K h265. it's perfect.
Yes, the HD is less than ideal. I think if file size is an issue for people they’d be better off using the 50mbps with the 4K h.265 or eleven the 30. The APS-C HD is better than their full frame, but I will be staying away from it all.
Very good comparison man! Love your channel, keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!!
Thank you Sir! Great jump in to the shooting options on the A7 IV...and thanks for making me into 4K 30Mbps (4.2.0) believer 🤓
Watching this again after seeing a video on the Leica M11, obviously a very different camera, but it's triple resolution capability reminded me of how changing the crop made such a difference in video sharpness. Very cool!
Those blue eyes 😻
Such an informative video. I'm definitely gonna be shooting the 4k 50mbps or 30mpbs to save storage space.
Got me cracking up on how much you complimented your eyes 😂 great stuff, great info too
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Cool surprising results. Great work!
Thank you for the samples and demonstration!
Okay but in clear image zoom mode there isn't focus point... when it comes to crop, I think 4k with full af possibility is much bettet choice than cler image zoom without focus.
Thanks from "one of the people" ... just the info I was looking for. Now I am wondering if the same would hold true with other full frame releases. Also it would be nice to know if sharper 1080p can be had from any of the 6XXX 4k cameras, they suffer from 1080p softness too. Cheers and again thanks for this vid.
You were on pe of the people 🤣. and I was wondering th exact same thing J.R. Guess I have more tests to do.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis sony has ok 1080 only on their a7S line.. the rest is pixelated.
Had to subscribe. Love the vibes! :)
Appreciate it!!
Thanks man this video means alot
If you shoot 120 fps with forced HD, will the image be sharper using APS-C mode as well?
when not zoomed in, it is hard to see the difference in detail between 4K and 1080 on my new M1 iMac. But zoomed in it is so obvious.
So maybe not too much to worry about. the issue is that there are no 60fps in 4K on my Sonys. for handheld panning landscape shots slowing down more than 80% helps. Definitely, sharp 4K is useful for cropping or extra reach on a 1080 timeline. But if I watch videos and movies I can't hardly tell the difference between 1080 and 4K. Much less difference to my eyes than between 720 and 1080. 1080p can also be shot at 30 Mbit/sec
Nice comparison,
I mean it's a 1000 pixels this way or that way.... I think 1080, 4K is not a huge jump in resolution yet. We are all still in the infancy of digital cameras. Why 1080 is still there is silly for $4K cameras.
Hi, I wanted to know whats the best recording format in 60fps to save storage and get decent quality. Thanks
Aps-c mode 1080p was missing exposure on UA-cam. First mover💪🏽
Yes - it wasn’t covered much.
This is a perfect video camera for crop mode. Down sampled 1080p and 60p 4K and little rolling shutter. If u got a ApS-c Sony camera already or upgrading from ApS-c this is a great choice. And it fixes all the issues the a6600 had and gives u even more. I know it’s 2x the price but worth it👍🏽
The only question left is can I get down sampled 1080p 120p 10bit in S&Q ApS-c mode? Then all is covered 😂
Amazing video
How bout the A7III does it have the same behaviour?
nice tuto. what about picture profiles PP off, PP8, PP9, PP11 to be used for these different settings ?
Brilliant info! Thanks!
Our king is back.
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Excellent video!! Im using a 2016 hp i3 laptop with 12gb ram and my 4k footage out my a6600 is still to much depending on how im editing so I stick to HD All Day
Soulful, slightly bloodshot eyes.
I'm fearful of 4k due to the file sizes. What's a decent computer spec to edit without having a seizure?
can’t be soulful unless there’s a little blood shot in there. Many computers these days can handle 4K easily. there’s always proxy files if it can’t. The Sony can actually give you a proxy file if you don’t want to do it yourself on the computer.
Great video! I think my sweet spot would be 4K 50mbps 10bit 4:2:2. I guess it’s still better than the largest 8bit video from A7III for example? Did you notice much quality difference between this 10bit setting over 100mbps one? I guess 100mbps is more suited for people that do heavy color grading. Cheers.
Ues, in most situations, you won’t notice a difference in the 100mbps.
Great work Mark. Thx. Is that Brown Ale?
Samuel Adams Boston Lager 🍺
Thanks.
hello my friend, I hope you are well Thank you for the info your work is very appreciated, I ask you, can you do something similar in the Sony ZVE10, it would be great, well I hope answers soon, a hug and blessings ...
that video is on its way 👍👍
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thanks brother I follow your advice when I am more prepared I will put my tests, thank you very much …
Thank you, good info!
Ran this test on my A7c which oversamples 4k from 6k. Unfortunately, apsc doesn't improve. Sad. Will post a video for proof.
Thanks for letting us know. look forward to the test
Very helpful! Thank you sir.
You are welcome!
A7 IV BABY LOVE IT ❤️
my fav
Hey Mark, thanks about it. What is more interesting to me in 1080 FF coverage vs. 1080 in Crop is DOF and Low light performance not only sharpness and image detail. Sure I can see cropped version more detailed, but I can also see less of a bokeh in the background and I guess it will be worse in low light. Can somebody verify my logic please :)
Exactly
Great vid as usual! Wondering whether you can run the same test on Panasonic S5? Many thanks.
would love to. trying to work with the camera stores around here for more access to other cams. and I’m a huge fan of Panasonic
I think the lowest my XT3 does is 100mb in 4k or 1080. It goes up to 400. seeing 30 is just surprising
Yes - it’s the first time I think I’ve seen it. And it’s a high quality image.
Yes, this was another good one. Now I don't have to do my own experiments.
Still gotta pick the poison, less sharpness in 1080p, or more rolling shutter & crop in 4k.
apsc mode in 4K has very little rolling shutter
I just want 4k 60 uncroped man. Great video tho! Super helpful!
Hey Mark,
I have a question related to ZV E10.
Currently, I'm owning ZV E10 + Samyang 12mm F2.0.
Do you have any recommendation on which Polarized filter + Ring that I should get for my camera?
I mainly shoot pics and videos outside in summer. I don't mind about the shutter speed(the 180 degree rule) so I just want to get everything inside my camera, like the beautiful sky.
Thank you.
A7iv is an amazing camera. Even a7iii is awesome... Back in time, Some russian channels were using a7iii as tv camera. These days that cameras get my respect. Now zv-e10 is much more than my needs.
They are really great. the ZV-E10 has such great video - in good light it competes fantastically with the A7iv. Congrats on the light!!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Thank you Mark. Thank you for the Weeylite video light. I'm so much happy about I'm the winner. I'm impatient to shoot street interviews at night with this product. Thank you...
no normal TV channel will use a photo camera
@@csamd9049 Back in these days when a7iii was just launched, it was like this. Check Cannes film festival cameras of these years, you may get shocked how often they was using a7iii.
Hi Mark, thanks to share your interesting video. I have 2 questions please: 1) I will buy Sony A7 IV, which handyman zoom lens would you buy? I take freehand 4K documentaries. 2) Which profile would you choose to document the daily life of an indigenous population in their village on red earth? Thank you
The kit lens is a decent zoom if you buy it with the camera, but the lens I use is the Tamron 28-75. Great quality, light, affordable and a constant f2.8. geni.us/NVva0Kp
I would suggest using S-Log3 with the LeemingLUT to get the best quality out of your A7iv. But if you do not want to colour grade in post, then I would choose Picture Profile Off, or PP11 (S-Cinetone).
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis THANK you a lot for your suggestion. I read Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 is a very good zoom but 75mm is little for me. I need around 100mm or a it more. Do you know another good zoom please?
@@ExploringWorldUA-cam how wide do you need it to go
The 70-180 is crazy good at stays at the constant 2.8 amzn.to/3KciQ2m
If you need wider Tamron just released the 35-150 2-2.8 www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1658158-REG/tamron_a058_35_150mm_f_f_2_2_8_di_iii.html/BI/21906/KBID/28274/kw/TA351502SE/DFF/d10-v2-t1-xTA351502SE
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis 28mm is Ok.
Thank you So much for your work !!!☺ If you could make the same comparison 4k vs 1080 in different modes but a7iv vs Canon r6 with writing file sizes - it would be amazing. Couldn’t find this info ANYWHERE. For those who don’t have opportunity to try these cameras in stores and don’t know will their the computer work with these files - this information would be precious ✨ hello from Ukraine 🫶
Hi From Canada!! I will look into it - but I don't have a R6 at the moment.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thank you for response ✨ if you’ll have opportunity - I think it’s what’s people searching for. These two cameras are some similar, but details you never know before trying both🥲
Why do they bother with the outdated low quality 1080 HD at all anymore? Seems like it's been around for a decade and rediculous to use VS 4K all the way - computer editing or not.
I never use it myself. But many people insist on it - even though, as I explained in the video, you can get a 4K file just as small 🤷♂️. But I don’t know everyone’s situation.
Irrelevant question: What beer do you drink in the videos? Seems like you drink the same beer in all of them ..
very relevant - and it Is the same one every time. Samuel Adams Boston Lager.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Well I don't think I could find Canadian beers in Greece but nevertheless, cheers mate 🍻
@@geopapa80 It’s an American Beer - but a good one 🤣. Not like the weak American beers - this one has flavour and wins taste contest, You might be able to find it because it is popular.
Dude, I've said it before, but I'm a'gonna say it again, you're some kind of camera genius guru/communicator. This was like, well, let's call it what it is: hall of fame material. AND I went out over the weekend and plunked down my dinero for a A7iv, based entirely on your unequivocal endorsement. So I better turn into Emmanuel Lubezki or Robert Richardson or somebody else of their caliber or I'm going to be mighty upset with you. Keep 'em coming.
I will take all credit for your future successes 🤣🤣
New sub here !! great video with an amazing topic. I tested myself on my A7S3 the 4K XAVC HS 30MB 4:2:0 10 bit and the result is just ...... THE SAME!!!... as 4k XAVC HS 100MB 4:2:2 10 Bit... honestly I can't see any difference, but the amazing is that recording at 30MB on a 128GB SD Card I get 8 hours !! of storage vs 2:41 at 100MB..... OMG !!... this is game changer hahaha.... nice job
Thanks for the info - I might do one on the A7iii myself!!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis the test that i did was on the A7 S III 😀
@@PabloRogat I read too fast. Even better to know!!
This is very helpful information for me. I find trying to distinguish all those codecs as confusing as….well, something that is really confusing. Do you have any preference or recommendations on SD cards. I already have several Sandisk V30 cards, but I don’t know for sure if they will suffice when I get the A74. Do you think I need V90 cards?
These Sandisk v30 work on all modes except All-I (which I do not use) geni.us/QoMpMQ
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Sweet 👍🏼. Thanks
Still no hope for slow motion FF 4K. Frustrating that Sony cropped - its just so useful to have a 40% push in wide.
it would be nice to have 4K 60 in full frame, but looking at my tests, I see why they would want to keep it to apsc mode. if the 60 full frame had been soft, people would noticed. but the 60 in apsc is as sharp as a tack
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis but no good for interior - id still prefer soft 4K over sub par 1080
@@markshirley01 fair enough - I take a wide lens when I want 60p, but there is only so wide you can go
Hey Mark awesome video thanks 👍
What about if I need good quality without the crop lol so I shot real estate so I really need that wide angle so do you think if I shot 1080 the quality is good enough real estate videos for clients ?
I am just buying my first camera and debating to get this one bcs of the crop in 4K other than than I love the aspects but I want to make sure I can do professional work with it ?
Thanks in advance
For sure you can do pro work with it. The crop in 4k is only for slow motion shooting at 60fps. There is no crop shooting in 4k at standard frame rates of 24, 25, or 30fps.
The 120fps 1080 looks great. Just add a bit of sharpening.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thanks very much
damn...sony a7 iv vs fuji xh2s vs canon r7 or panasonic s5 ...and all I really need is a firmware update for my X-T4 to remove the recording limit (and not I don't want to use an external recorder)...help please ;)
Science saying the truth 😁😁
Great video.....👍
Do the same tests with little duggy, it will be fun 😉✌️
👍
The real question is how does the 30-50Mbps hold up to color corrections and heavy changes to the image over the all-I
for heavy colour grading, the 10-bit will be your key to success. But of course, if you have more info, it’s better for colour grading (but a lot of people won’t ever need that minute detail)
Excellent work. Very helpful.
But what about fps. I have Sony 6400 and when i move the camera in 1080/25p and 4k/25p video is very choppy. In 1080/50p video is smooth.
yes, capturing at a higher frame rate will help with panning and movement. but the motion of people will look a little more like a “soap opera” at these higher frame rates
you are amazing
haha - I think so!!
Sorry if this is not the smartest question - but does this mean that the quality is the finest when you have both 4K and APS-C together - i.e 4k at 60fps on Sony A74?
NOT a dumb question, and I should have mentioned it, but no, the best quality is the 4K Full frame. It uses the full sensor down sampled from 7k. the APS-C seems almost identical. But the 4K Full Frame looks sharpest by a bit
Hey. Question.
APS-C lenses like the sigma 16mm 1.4 or the 30mm 1.4…
Can we still get the full 4k resolution at 24p? Or is it cropping the resolution as well as the image at 4k settings on APS-C lenses?
you still get full 4K resolution. it used a smaller part of the sensor, but it’s still full resolution. Just like when it does 4k60. the footage will be remarkably sharp. Those Sigma lenses are a secret weapon for the Sony full frame cameras for video 👍
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Tysm for the response. It's on the way for me. I was crazy enough to purchase the G 16-55 2.8 APS-C lens for my a6400. I can't wait to try it in 4k60 on the a7iv! That lens is beautiful.
@@ronniegibbs2594 it’s gonna be a fantastic combo!!
Awesome!
Thanks!!
Nice video ! can you shoot 4k 25p in apsc crop mode with it ?
absolutely
How about using sigma 18-50 apsc lens on A7IV as main lens as a traveling combo. Instead of getting kit lens
That’s tough - on full frame the sigma is equivalent to 27-75 f4.2. So a little better than the kit 28-70 3.5-5.6. Bit not a huge difference. and the kit lens is stabilized. I would instead save a little more money and do the Tamron 28-75 2.8
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis I was thinking about the size of the lens as one of the major factor. You are right about f4.2 though. Plus if I consider apsc lens, I will have same range values on photos and video since I intend to use 4k 60 mostly with catalyst brows to stabilize footage in post production
It’s surprising that 1080p in aps c mode is sharper than full frame, I thought full frame should have more pixels to oversample from hence better in quality?
They are just taking a cropped portion of the center for 1080, so in order to get a full sensor readout, they line skip the 1080. So the crop mode which is not line skipped would be sharper. The 4k is far shaper because it is 7k down sampled to 4k with no line skipping
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thanks for the reply. It escapes me why they don’t do downsample for 1080p as they do for 4K, should be the same logic but even easier with less pixels to sample from.
Agreed. Why does Sony not apply the same logic from 6k to 1080p downsampling?
what about the a7III and a7c is the 1080p crop downsampled to? thanks for your work!
looking into it!!
You are the best🚀
how did you got blue eyes?
Will crop hd look better the ff hd on a7c as well?
I should have an A7C in here next week. I’ll try to check it out
The people's man, indeed, indeed.
I wonder where you stand on the retro lens debate of things? not proper full-sized lenses but these Nameless 16mm, 25mm, 35mm are 1.4 -1.8 C-mount lens that is under 40$ and are supposed to be comparable to " big boy " lenses. because from the videos I find. no one really goes in-depth without making it easy to understand. there's so much obfuscation. and how do you feel about this running narrative of everyone heading towards mirrorless as the future standard for cameras? are DSLRs becoming...obsolete?
retro lenses can be great if you are looking for some character - but generally they are manual focus and have many imperfections. But there are a lot of photographers who get them for a “look” or they just like them. I do think the camera industry will be all mirrorless eventually, but it’s not like a dslr will stop working - you’ll still be able to use a good dslr in 10 years. I’m sure there are people who will never stop using them
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thank you. that was the most honest take I've seen on either so far. it always feels like someone's trying to pander to both sides. thank you for being cut and dry about it.
How i get a shaper quality with my a6400?
Hello sir could you tel me witch lens i choose for a7iv 4k 60fps crop to cover 4k 60fps full frame without loosing resolution?
Any lens will work. The camera automatically goes into aps-c crop mode with any lens in 4k 60 fps. It will be full 4K resolution.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thank you so much sir
Nice video ! can you make the same for the zve10? Thank you
In the works
Now I just need a sony camera to test all these myself. T.T
hi. thank you for video. i need your help. i need just had video quality for instageram page. but wich camera a7 III or a7 iv or a7c in 1080 had can give me better video?
The A7Iv is best and shoot in 4k. You can choose the lower bit-rate as I showed in the video and you can export in 1080. But if you shoot on any of these cameras in 1080, the image will be soft.
How did Jason get sharp 2X clear image zoom 1080P??
I believe what he was doing was comparing a zoomed in image in post to a zoomed in image in camera 1080 APS-C crop code with clear image zoom. The clear image zoom will be sharper in that case, but clear image zoom in 1080 APS-C mode is not sharper than non-zoomed APS-C mode in 1080
I thought you could only do 1080 hd in 8 bit on the A7iv
you can do 10 bit 4.2.2. up to 60p in 10-bit in 1080
Plz do same video about the little doggy they say 1080p is very soft compared to the 4k
I am preparing that video too
hi. thank you for video. i need your help. when I record a video from xavc hs format and transfer my file to premiere pro-2022 after edited the file and report I saw this error" this file requires the hevc code which is included white a creative cloud membership. to upgrade to a paid plan ". can you give me a guide on what I must do?
I’m not sure why you’re having that issue as I don’t use premiere pro, but the solution is to use DaVinci resolve. it’s free and the best editor. I am switching to it myself.
No science here, just terrible people doing terrible things :P
It was quite surprising how bad the 1080 really was in comparison. You uncovered a gem there with that XAVC mode. How does Dougie respond to this type of savage comparison?
Gonna have to figure out something for little Dougie
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ohh, what's that? Dougie just fell on the floor? Harvey just pushed him over? Damn son, those Sony cameras really have some rivalry going on haha
I sold a Canon t4i and the 1080 looked the same. 12 years later, same 1080? Wth? Why bother with 1080? Kick it to curb and give us all 4K.
Can we get a zve10 1080p vs a7iv crop 1080p comparison? Lol
niceeeeee
How do you put the Sony A7IV in 1080p mode (rookie camera user)
It’s in the settings under file format
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis is it XAVC S HD??
Am I tripping or is there some wild noise stuff going on in the background of that very first 100Mbps shot?
I don’t see any wild stuff on any of my screens, but it was snowing. Make sure you’re watching in full resolution. - sometimes UA-cam will show you stuff in lower quality
Hey Mark, is there any way to get sharp 1080p in zv-e10?
Looking into it!!
does 1080 p cropped 120fps has active steady Ibis ?
No, no active steady shot in 120
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis :-( thanks bro
Hey mark what is the highest bitrate for 120p?
100mbps. nothing different here
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis ah i see, thats a shame youd think they'd bump it up. guess thats only for those rich a7siii and A1 owners XD. Could you make a "best video settings" video for the a7iv? like you did with the zv-e10?
@@slyfox8900 yes - I should and definitely will do that.
i like the 1080 more, the 4k shows too many imperfections on my face
Is 1080p HDMI out also soft?
Why does the 1080p look really sharp in this review?
ua-cam.com/video/ww9C5zM_CiI/v-deo.html
It will be the same sharpness coming out of the hdmi. It looks sharper in this video because he is comparing it to the a7iii which is less sharp. He he compared the 1080 in the A74 to the 4K in the a74 - you would see the difference. The 1080 is still useable in my opinion. Just add a little sharpening in post
Bwhahahahahaahahah... "tasty apple juice" dudeee! I just can't click off no matter if im actually interested in the topic, you're hilarious! 🤣and btw im not interested in the a7iv at all lol
I appreciate the watch ESPECIALLY if you’re not interested in the topic. Best type of person 🤣
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis or I’m just crazy haha
indeed. you could even apply the scientific method and I'd still be the best in the world🤓
Very efficient video, btw!
Thanks! 😃