SPV3 is an ambitious love letter to the Halo series | SPV3 Review
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- The new SPV3 release is here, and with it came a whole host of new additions, modifications to existing content and various QoL features and updates. Im in a fortunate position where I havent played spv3 since maybe 2019. Its been so long that a lot of my memory on the experience has eroded. On top of the time its been, I’ve changed quite a bit as a person as well. Moods and opinions have shifted and it was interesting to revisit it. Especially interesting due to my familiarity with MCC on PC to compare it to. SPV3 once upon a time WAS “the” modern halo PC Game but now? It shares space with its slightly buggy but equally ambitious brother. How was my time with SPV3’s “final update?”
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Iz chips dubbo still there?
I want you to know I read this as Vietnam doing the editing which made me laugh
Consider me a new sub
2:00-2:45 You nailed it! That is what I wanna see in Halo Infinite! It’s what I’ve always wanted to see again.
Have you ever noticed that spv3's marines have similar armor to the Halo 4's
Wait, is this the last update?
When you mention the emphasis on space in the sky box we can’t forget seeing he Milky Way on the ark in halo 3
Pretty accurate too
That was such a brilliant moment the first time. Instantly felt that feeling that it’s do or die, so far from home in the unknown with no support if it all goes wrong.
My first thought when he said that. That skybox was amazing.
I think Reach had some amazing skies, and its space in the original startup and on Long Night of Solace is really something
came here to comment that. wow
Hey, for the record, as someone partially involved with the audio team including working directly with Jafet Meza, I feel I need to address some details about the overall sound mixing and implementation.
I can confirm that everyone involved with the actual music aren't the people that implement it in the game. Jafet doesn't touch the editing kit or any part of the Halo engine and his work is handed off to someone else. Who that is is beyond my knowledge (It could be the lead designer Masterz1337, or someone else, I'm purely involved only with the music.)
There are parts of Jafet's and our work that are used in the complete wrong place instead of where they were intended to play, or were outright never implemented, this is partially responsible for the game audio often appearing constantly "bombastic" when that was never the intention.
Some of the music cue placement in this mod is misplaced and the audio team aren't the people responsible for that, a significant few people in the music team wish they had more say over placement of triggers because it ends up poorly representing their actual work.
There is a whole myriad of upcoming and completely overhauled tracks, several of which were already completed and were not put into 3.3 to avoid clash with what was already there, or for reasons unknown, which is why there's still a massive chunk of the older and outdated material. The newer tracks and updated ones have far more range and subtleties that complement the gameplay far superior to what the unfortunate result here has ended up being.
Long story short the audio team would love a build with more creative control over the music cues and implementation, preferably by someone who actually studies and understands more about music and how it should and can be used to interact with and engage with the player and the overall game experience, lol
thats interesting. I was wondering why the mod didnt use some of the newer revisions to the music
bump this 5ever
@@LateNightHalo Kinda sucks that you blamed Jafet in this, he works hard on these songs and your community will probably think that he's not even trying after what you said, the music in the game is only mock ups for now and he's re-working pretty much all of the soundtrack to make it perfect, Jafet is a Halo fan and really wants to give the player the halo feel. Hope you will clear your statement soon, because what you did there is diminish is work, even if it wasn't your intention.
I'm not trying to start a fire over SPV3 or anything, but as a composer and modder myself, I know I would be frustrated to see my work misrepresented and I feel it was the right call to make some of this known.
I've been lucky enough to be involved in a few of the great remaining strongly knit together communities for CE and Jafet's over the the past couple of years and I've seen a lot of discussions across these communities that have shown a lot of light on things that the wider public community don't necessarily get the whole picture on.
I can say that this "misrepresentation" doesn't just occur in terms of the audio, but a lot of the asset team and assets adapted for or used in SPV3 over the years as well, there are some controversial figures and moments that have happened in the modding scene over not just the last few years but quite a while, and it saddens me that some of their and those actions are partially why this sort of thing happens.
(I use "misrepresentation" for lack of a better word, that word carries a lot of meaning behind it that is not the intention of my post, but it's the best I could convey things.)
@@ClicStudio Giving opinions = diminish ah yes
I see my divine influence is spreading. Nice mask.
The old me would’ve lost my mind if this were a thing back during CE’s release. It really does make it feel like a whole new world, but the same one you knew, I love it.
You have another thing coming in the next few months. Prepare to duel once more, my chunky green adversary.
@@craigthebrute6032 The battle we never wanted, but the battle we always needed
The Library in SPV3 felt how the Library in the book is described
The whole mod takes inspiration from the book in my opinion
So same shit except 10 times the infection forms and the covenant every so often?
@@sargeantBones
I mean yeah. Just in the sense of being more exhausting and hopeless feeling.
I believe Elias Haverson has entries in the UNSC terminals, I remember seeing his name.
Lethality weapons: exist
LNG: And I took that personally
😂
Fellas is it boring to have weapons that are designed to kill?
@@lv1543 I agree, I was just joking about how much of a sandbox purist LNG is.
@@fireclaw9602 ik. I like how whenever theres a weapon that actually deals damage LNG gets upset
Also the fact that THIS version of the mod lets you use the MCC version of Halo to install the mod instead of the old method.
Yo actually?
Yes, I can confirm
@@Ausomgamer112 that's awesome
Real shit?
to preface this you don't actually install it into mcc, you run custom edition still. however masterz (the team lead) uses whether you own mcc as a way to justify installing a pirated copy with all the spv3 content in it. which is a weak justification in my opinion. im kinda wondering if this build will get a dmca from microsoft since it contains the entire game repackaged into their installer.
When you first saw Halo, were you blinded by its majesty?
Yes, yes I was.
Hope we can see more projects like this, I just wonder what they could've done with the other Halo games.
343 keeps saying that mod tools for newer Halos are on their way, I hope its true since they've been saying so for so long
Same would love to see what they can do whit halo 2
@@chrisdiez4777 Dude, imagine a large campaign mod that implements some of Bungie's scrapped ideas into Halo 2. That would be the sickest shit ever.
2:40 halo 2 high charity. Staring out into the covenant city and realising you're only travelling across two small towers
hahaha
This update/version seems really good, cant wait to get it, i do kind of wish it had more 'fun skulls' like bandana or acrophobia etc. The game is clearly focused on being a bit nore difficult than vanilla CE, hence removal of easy and addition of a difficulty above legendary, so the skulls there are unique and make sense, i just wish some were a bit more... whacky
I wish it had co-op to be honest.
11:35 you don't remember the gold hunters from ODST?
those were more or less still just "Hunters: But gold"
Im referring to mechanically different Hunters if that makes sense? Ones with different functions and weapons
@@LateNightHalo They were different though. They fired single shot projectiles as opposed to the Blue one's stream of plasma. Not a huge change but it is more than just a color change.
@@BiomechanicalBrick Still different to the hunters everyone was used to at that point 🤷🏻♂️
Environment: Contrast 100%
Sky box: contrast 500%
Colors: All of them
I’m sorry but I don’t think any of this looks good (coming from a concept artist perspective). I think the artists taking charge of SPV3 are the same type of people that think that slapping raytracing on everything is the end all solution to “good” graphics
oh, I dont think its got a great art style, its just impressive since its the CE engine.
@@LateNightHalo Yeah I should say I still value their work and their effort definitely shows, plus there’s no reason to really shit on a mod made out of pure love for Halo. Just noting a few things that people seem to not realize when they seriously consider this as a worthy upgrade to CE. And of course Halo Anniversary suffers from similar issues
@@BlueBrickCinema yeah, Its definitely quite messy looking
I just dislike how people say its peak halo. It's just odd to me.
if you want to see all these assets used correctly look up the original silent cartographer evolved. they were a seperate team from the main mod and made much better balancing decisions and reduced the bloat. also the shaders are waaaay better in tsce forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=47823&start=1
Am I the only one who thinks that SPV3 is a bit too bloated. It could have been Halo CE plus. Like taking stuff from the books as an added idea.
You're the only one, it's the most overused and unexplained argument against SPV3 that never get backed up. Nobody goes into lenght to analyze where the "bloat" is.
Even if to be fair both end of the spectrum is subjective, i feel the oposite toward the original CE, it simply doesn't have enough because just playing H2 make CE incredibly outdated mechanically speaking and from a weapon roster stand point. It's way to small ironically for a game with such vast open environement. For example... SPV3's extended rock-paper-scissors with weapons affinity, nuanced stats, and effects add much more depth that feels welcome. Even the extended levels made me appreciate the sandbox more.
Even Ruby's rebalance took notes from it. It's a mod with a shit loads of good idea that adds lots of replayability and depth. SPV3 effectively modernize CE and manage to keep the the atmosphere's main point for me.
Still though screw Masterz.
@@ProsecutorValentine he is very much NOT the only one. Check out the comments section on noodles critique of SPV3. And he wasn't even harsh enough.
The mod is 'bloated' because its stuffed full of irrelevant trash that artificially lengthens the game. Terribly-designed segments added to every level that turn classic, well-balanced experiences into tedious slogs. Intricately detailed copy-paste weapons contrasting horribly with poorly-rendered environment textures that makes the whole thing feel like a stale tech demo. Awful enemy distribution, with countless high-ranking elites placed everywhere with no thought to the logic of having them there. In OG CE gold elites are like mini-bosses that guard important areas - in SPV3 they show up anywhere and far too often. The mod lifts voice lines from halo 2 that completely breaks immersion - we all know these lines of dialogue belong to another game. I could go on...
The whole mod is just a poor reinterpretation of Halo CE that makes the game shabby and boring. The modders need to learn that sometimes less is more. OG CE is a perfect example of subtle and efficient game design, and SPV3 misses the mark entirely.
You're absolutely not. There's a lot I want to like about this mod, but there's also a lot getting in the way of that. And it's not even just that many of the levels have been lengthened in such a way that doesn't improve the overall experience (although that's also a fairly massive fly in the ointment). My biggest gripe with it is how they needlessly changed a lot of basic things - such as the controls, the UI, the textures in a lot of places - in a way that actively makes the game *worse* than the vanilla experience. They even reorder lines of dialogue in some of the cutscenes that achieve literally nothing except making them seem like they're out of order. It's like they try to change everything just because they can, rather than zeroing in on only the parts that would actually make the game better.
@@ProsecutorValentine about the weaponry. Two different assault rifle models, the Battle rifle has two modes that are redundant, the SMG is a slightly worse Assault rifle, the DMR shouldn't exist like it somehow does in Halo 4. The covenant weapons have a few oddities. Also vehicle wise the Grizzly is not needed, the wasp has it's clipping issues. Level wise the Library is even worse ( and I'm the odd one in liking the original version) and the tutorial level on easy and Normal frontloads too much onto players even those familiar with the games.
Nope, it’s indeed bloated to high hell with many redundant weapons that feel like inferior versions of each other. Feels like Masterz pumping air into MC’s ass for his dA inflation group.
Its weird to think a decade ago I didn’t know what a halo was whilst SPV3 was being worked on but i was excited along with the community to see its release in 2021.
For once I disagree with you. I share Noodle's opinion about SPV3.
This mod is just a mess. It's quantity over quality. It did not felt like a Halo experience. The art is even more uglier than HCEA, the weapon sandbox is a mess, the levels are too long, etc...
Oh, I do think its messy but im looking at it with the context of HOW long its been in development haha Some stuff is "baked into the game" unfortunately. I do still vastly prefer the original CE. I just think SPV3 is a very interesting window into the halo series' last decade
My take on SPV3 is this: a very bloated sandbox but an ambitious mod. I don’t like Masterz1337 but he’s not the only person working on the mod, so I appreciate the work even if it’s not my favorite thing
Why don’t you like him?
@@theaverageclownhole3369 I vividly remember him posting on Twitter how people who like classic Halo are conservatives and people who like new Halo are liberals. Also he’s an asshole to people in his discord a lot and bans people who disagree with him. He also melds his political opinions with Halo, where he wanted to make an ODST campaign where Mickey faced homophobia in the ODSTs (which doesn’t make sense because in the context of Halo humanity has basically solved racism and other kinds of bigotry)
@@dextergrif1052 didn't know that about him
@@dextergrif1052 Not to mention his zealous defense for that Father/Daughter Keys incest terminal...
@@Pine0wlple jesus
Honestly, while it isn’t objectively bad, I just feel like overall it lost the halo image. The whole thing looks more like an over-modded Half Life 1 mega project. To each there own, but I feel like it really lost itself to try an stand out.
It’s Like a fanfic that has grown so far away from the source material that it’s basically an original product wearing the rotting skins of its host.
I tried playing this on my pc that was able to run it 4 years ago...it died
Careful LNG, starting to sound like IGN 11:14
i love SPV3 and a lot of it, its just the graphics, both lighting and textures, just feel too dirty too me, not ugly or bad just dirty or grimey in a way i dislike i love halo reach's art style too i might add
Quite honestly, SPV3 is a mixed bag for me. There's a lot of new ideas that liven up the Halo formula for me and brought back fun I haven't had in a while (I had just finished a playthrough of Halo 4), but at the same time the artstyle felt like a lightly fried meme. The additions were mostly positive, but some stuck out to me as pointless, like the DMR, Battle Rifle, and the Magnum all serving the same role, not to mention the single fire on the battle rifle existing in the first place.
Honestly, other than SPV3's really garbage installer (that for some reason simply refuses to understand that a computer can have drives other than C for me), I don't mind CMT's remake; they absolutely ruined Lumoria and everything that made it interesting or fun, though.
It has the same weapon problems of halo 5
spv3 looks horrendous, half of the time I can't even see what I'm shooting at because everything is unsaturated and dark, they even took TSC:E and made it looks bad, lmao. The OG halo is bright, colorful and stylized, still looks fine today.
@@snark567 Yeah, at times it looks like an N64 game and on top of that it runs like ass. I have a high end PC that runs Fallout 4 at full specs with mods; there is *zero* reason I should need to run this game at low specs and low resolution to get more than 15 FPS.
But the DMR, BR and Magnum don't all share the same role? Just because they can headshot enemies doesn't make them identical.
DMR deals the most damage per-shot of any UNSC non-power weapon, making it excellent at punching through Brute armour and even the shields of lower-ranked Elites. Combine that with a 4x scope, and you essentially have a mini-Sniper rifle that demands pacing of shots in order to make the most of it.
Conversely, the Battle Rifle has the *weakest* per-shot damage, making it ill-suited at eliminating shielded enemies unless you can circumvent or eliminate said shielding first (typically through a plasma weapon). However, the massive ammo pool combined with the ability to switch between burst and semi-auto modes while zoomed means that this thing can mop up entire swathes of unprotected fodder without making so much as a dent in the player's ammo supply.
The Magnum is expressly the high-powered sidearm tuned for close-range engagements. It's damage approaches that of the DMR, meaning that it can be spammed in order to weaken/pop an enemy's shield, but you're better off doing that with your primary gun (especially the AR) and leaving the Magnum as a headshot machine. Heck, both the Magnum and AR are so complementary to each other (especially if the player utilises the entirety of their arsenal like Grenades and melee) that a player could go through the whole game using only those two weapons.
Going on about one of my comments I’ve made before... I’ve always loved how Halo had a thin sky. When I was in school I would go in my backyard and stargaze in the night of California, while imagining I’m on a Halo ring. I got a deep sensation out of it and it really made me wonder what’s out there in our galaxy.
“Do you ever wonder what’s up there?”
Started off as a lot of fun, but later became exhausting to play. Levels became way to long for my liking and some encounters have to many A.I.
I seriously wish my PC's motherboard didn't die.
what socket is it? I might have one laying around that matches to kick out to you.
343i is not going to take notes from this bc they know that some things just dont work like the BR and DMR being in the mod at the same time the magnums zone is still there... You see why i dont consider SPV3 to be the way to play Halo CE. *well fuck I sound like Noodle here*
Another video, another smile on my face!!! Late night you beautiful man, I’ve said it before but you’re videos are absolutely the highlight of my week. Thank you my dude!
@@e.chewout770 what? 🤣
Am I the only one feeling like the BR has a damn delay between click and fire?
Correct, actually. The way we managed a consistent burst-fire in Halo 1's engine was to actually program the burst via a veeeerrryyy small (but still somewhat noticeable) charge-up before it fires.
@@ODX_Animation Makes it very un-fun to use sadly
@@ares903 It was the only way we found, through multiple years of trying, to make it fire 3 shots consistently. Other methods made it spazz out and fire anywhere from 2-5 shots at one time, and basically all at one which made for an incredibly wonky gun.
@@ODX_Animation How did you manage to get more complex explosions that breaks vehicles into individual pieces in CE's engine.
thats caused by regions. you seperate sections of the models into a region and you can set damage value for that region. once its damaged enough the region switches to the damaged version of the model and from there you can spawn the broken pieces. in halo ce scenery objects dont have any physics propertys so the broken off pieces are actually undrivable vehicles in order to utilize the physics propertys.
Why is Late Night Gaming adorable? He's like wholesome and innocent, man! Love this guy!
one thing i will say. the difficulty is fucking nuts. on normal it takes so many shots to kill a grunt and jackal if they arent head shots. plus the BR and DMR added to the game are REALLY bad. the covenant weapons are the best and if you play always go for the brute shot. the best of the covy weapons
@@e.chewout770 ??? I’m not promoting my channel as I don’t even post stuff anymore😂 so whatever you’re trying to imply has failed miserably.
Did they take out the incest references tho?
Looks awesome still
I haven't seen any datapads in Keyes so yeah, Except covenant ones.
wincest
This game reminds me of one of those Fallout New Vegas "enhanced graphics mods" videos on UA-cam where they would have some terrible texture pack or character overhaul that made every single character, object, or texture the most unpleasant thing to look at (Master Chief's armor especially reminds me of one of those T-45/T-51 retexture mods from like 2014 that just looked horrendous). On top of that, they would also add in some dogshit ENB presets that would crank the bloom settings up to 11 and made my eyes bleed just by looking at them. It just looks really ugly
Agreed. They made the same mistake the Anniversary devs did, which was oversaturating and overdetailing what was originally designed to look best as a lonely, desolate, arid environment.
What are you're thoughts on photo modes in games?
Every game should have one tbh
@@lordjeremetrius even the ugly ones?
A few minutes ago I asked myself hey when does he get to talk about the update to spv3 and then I saw this in my feed thanks for the video keep up the good work!
Who needs YT notifications when we have our instincts
does anyone know if semen is flammable. I want to know but am too scared to find out.
It can melt but I've yet to see it burn
*w h a t i n t h e g o d d a m n*
Great for skincare, not sure how useful it would be in lighting a campfire tho
I'm currently building a computer with my family (we're all getting to build one each), and when I'm done building it, I will get MCC on it and start installing mods, this one definitely included!
*cough* this isn’t for mcc *cough*
@@SLAD3 this version can actually go on mcc so...
@@AtlasofSol wait really? I didn’t know we got mod tools
@@SLAD3 just recently
@@AtlasofSol spv3 isnt installed in mcc and we did not get official mod tools yet for mcc as well. All spv3 does is check to see if you HAVE mcc, and if you do it will allow you to install the Halo PC game that spv3 runs on
SPV3 is something I feel bad criticising. Cause I really did not like this, but you can see the passion put into it
No, go off king, spill it out.
This is the 3rd review of SPV3. How many more you gonna make?
Hopefully the final one since its "feature complete" now.
Laughs in SPV3.4
@@LateNightHalo You underestimate the amount of numbers we yet have left between 4 and 10 :O
Honestly I'm not a big fan. The enemies are always too bullet spongey and you're way too weak to withstand any real damage like in CE.
Agreed. I don't know why more people don't talk about the unbalanced damage system.
The brutes take no time at all to kill. But the elites I swear take all my ammo just to bring down.
It depends on your weapon. Elites have shields, so plasma stuff burns through that faster I believe. Brutes are easier to kill with human weapons. Magnum shouldn't be the weapon of choice for everything.
@@AstoundLikesWoW I see. So it's making us swap out weapons more often during fights. I can kinda dig that. But I just love human weapons too much. It's all I carry if I can 😅
@@DayBowBow that was how the normal game was also
@@AstoundLikesWoW
Not quite that extreme though
looking back at SPV3 after playing infinite, It is kind of sad that a team of modders did a better job at materializing the "Infinite" possibility of a halo campaign then 343 with 6 years of development and MS's huge cash support
I feel like SPV3 is liked only because it's a giant fan overhaul for Halo CE. But, let's be real, if 343 made anything close to this it would be ripped apart.
Halo fans will spend five hours complaining about how 343 ruined the ‘30 seconds of fun’ Bungie philosophy
Let's also be real, if they had a real game engine to work with it wouldn't be as clunky and better fleshed out.
The suppressed weapons were not really for aesthetic purpose when I played spv3 on heroic difficulty ( Especially in the beginning of assault on the control room and many linear compact areas afterwards ) They really had their own tactical advantage
Does anyone else think spv3 is complete garbage? It feels like a fanmade remake of a 343 game. Spv2 was cool it was just halo ce with more weapons. SPV3 is a janky abomination
As a fan of both games, it feels like the halo equivalent of what the 'Cinematic Mod' is for Half Life 2.
@@brighampitts I know exactly what you mean and you're right on the money.
SPV3 is Masterz inflation art with how much redundant bullshit he pumps into it
Unrelated but I thought the thumbnail had a Mega Construx master chief figure lmao
The Autumn’s cafeteria has electric billboards POGGERS
idk why thsi made sense to me
The lens flares in this mod make me feel like I'm watching some weird collaborative project between J. J. Abrams and Kootra
wut
I don't appreciate the CE Anniversary soundtrack but love the spv3 and Halo 2 Anniversary soundtrack.
the art style is really bad imo. overdetailed. looks like textures stretched on flat boxes
Yeah I don’t really see the big hype for this mod? It just doesn’t look good at all..
i can't disagree
@@colonelmilk2586 bcus 343 bad and halo fan good
You need to remember, you can only do so much with a 20 year old engine, it has limitations. I'm not saying you can't dislike it, but you need to remember that aspect.
@@Those2menoverthere Yeah that's true but that doesn't mean that it doesn't look bad. Amazing stuff still and pretty great they were able to pull it off.
I respect your opinion but this looks worse than CE Anniversary.
I am not really a fan of the new marine models they look out of place
Yeah, Keyes seems to run a tight ship and they look a little out of discipline, a little too Colonial Marines-ey.
The ODSTs are dope though
Hey LNG, have you seen this new guy on UA-cam, Reclaimer Gaming, he makes fan fiction halo storys, and then voices them out, there great highly recommend.
Wait is this seriously the final update of SPV?
I do wish they'd fix the bug where controller settings don't save. I play Bumper Jumper so I have to remap my controls every time I launch it.
My biggest hope is that the MCC on Steam gets Steam Workshop support. Being able to easily install mods like this would go a long way to making them more accessible to the masses.
Never gonna happen because that would mean game pass can’t use mods and that’s a big Nono for Microsoft
I have to say that the effort in this mod is amazing, but there are 2 things that i don't like:
-They add stuff just because it looks cool, making some weapons feel kinda useless and/or out of place
-The game sometimes looks amazing, and other times looks like a PS2 game with PS3 models (This last one is a little bit nitpicky, considering that it's all done on the Halo CE engine it's really amazing)
@@e.chewout770 stfu and stop writing the same comment like 4 times already, you won't get more than the 2 subs you already have.
@@e.chewout770 You quite literally have NO videos on your channel. What fucking content are you even talking about lmao
SPV3.3 looks really good. I can't wait to see their next project or edit
Are they doing any other projects?
Hey LNG,
Can you restore original Halo aesthetics in Halo 1 Anniversary using Reshade?
I would love to see that.
Search it up on Nexus mods
Am I the only one who really dislikes the way this game looks? It has some good high quality assets in it, but also some really bad looking models and environments. Everything looks... off. It's very off-putting. Frankly, I think classic Combat Evolved is much more pleasing to look at.
Also, why the hell is this game so dark? It looks like a lot of the levels are just stupidly dark.
I haven't played much of 3.3, but some of the changes I've noticed are pretty dumb. I really hate how they decided to keep the assault rifle's low initial rate of fire, despite making the zoomed shots even slower. Another thing is having Johnson and the Marines at the beginning of the second mission. Obvious lore inconsistencies aside, it feels very jarring and kills the lone survivor atmosphere that the vanilla game had. The most bizarre change though has to be the revive mechanic. Masterz is very unabashed in his apologetics for 343's game design, and this is very clearly inspired by it's inclusion in Halo 5. After going back to regular CE, it's hard for me to enjoy how busy this mod can get at times. More doesn't necessarily mean better.
4:29 Did they jackal just initiate a melee? Combat had evolved!
they do it in the newer Halos IIRC
@@protocetid which one?! I never recalled
@@nomad155 might be H5, don't quote me tho
@@protocetid It is Halo 5, all enemies except Watchers can melee in that game.
Imagine if Halo 2 got an Spv3??
Yeah I hope it does.
@@Highrollinhunter Won't happen, unfortunately. The modding tools don't have the capability and flexibility that we've created for Halo 1 throughout two decades of work. Masters himself abhors Halo 2's linear level design, as well, and has basically sworn oaths to not touch the game outside of weapon tweaks if even.
@@TheBananamonger Masters is still an outstanding modder and can organize a team well. But alright, even if we discount Master's involvement, Halo 2 is a terribly broken game that literally exemplifies the phrase "held by duct tape and glue." There have been uncountable efforts to create great content in it ever since Halo 2 Vista, and we've yet to do even a tenth of what we can in Halo CE. Our best bet for a new playground is Infinite.
@@ODX_Animation Mmh... We can always hope the official mod tools, with the help of ex modders and members of Eldewrito working with 343i, can set a scene for other Halo game. Never say never, well, maybe except for the jankiness of Halo 2 of course. But i can totally see H3, ODST and Reach expanding.
What I like about the SPV3 DMR is that they really leaned into it being more of a mini sniper.
So not only does it sound super beefy, but it also causes enemies to flinch and stop shooting while they recover from the powerful shot. It's useful against Brutes which I believe flinch a lot less than Elites. I have a distinct memory of throwing a grenade at a brute that was advancing and then shooting him with the DMR to stun him backward so he couldn't dodge the grenade.
Flinching and disrupting enemy firing patterns is also a HUGE component of a games' difficulty. So a weapon that can flinch an enemy that's shooting you as you run to cover (notably T&R's hanger) is useful.
I like SPV3’s music because the grandiose music fits the saturated feel of the entire mod. The sandbox, the visuals, the environment, and the enemies are all fleshed out to their maximum potential. It only makes sense that the music should be too. The overbearing tunes make the experience feel right to me
This seems much improved, having played SPV3 when you last reviewed it. Even with MCC on my shoulders I'm feeling inclined to give it a play. Aside from drive space I don't have much to lose.
Especially since it can now pull its files from your MCC version of CE.
Really? I’m not sure what that would do. Except maybe, environment improvement?
Exponaut R-01 Its more so you don’t have to track down a CD key for the original PC release when you already own CE on MCC.
Oh that makes sense
Exponaut R-01 Yeah since SPV-3 is probably only pulling textures and some audio at this point due to level rewites and engine upgrades,all of which the MCC version has.
This is great
This mod is good, I played through most of it but deleted it recently.
I loved the extended levels and the few levels that were completely re imagined were amazing, my issue was that calling it resource intensive is an understatement, when I played it I thought my PC was going to melt. Also, the level Keys is next to impossible.
Neat
Never was a fan of this mod really, it doesn’t feel like CE, and the amount of weapons just kinda defeat each other (magnum, Br, dmr) just these three all share the same purpose
Oh god, the Windows Cortana. Phenomenal.
I loved it. But holy shit the flood are an absolute threat in thr outbreak levels.
If the grass texture on the ground outside is forming a visible grid, that’s a HUGE problem
Ah yes, the "Throw shit at the wall and deep fry the colors" mod.
I didn’t mind halo 2A’s soundtrack. Songs like kilindini harbour or u yielding soul I thought were improvements to the originals (earth city and unyielding) however there is little more improvements but I didn’t most of it and I only disliked some of it. For example the remakes of the incubus and breaking Benjamin songs were garbage and the reclaimer remake felt too packed
I dislike the mod and and i don't like the lead dev, but i appreciate the effort put into it
Problem: After clicking Load SPV3 a box says "A crash report for this exception has been saved to your OpenSauce Reports" If anyone can help I'd really appreciate it.
Join us on discord. We will make sure you can play it.
@@subhadeepjasu292 believe it or not that was the first thing i did. Im in both the reddit and the discord. Ask 2 days straight on the help page, no response (although i found others are having same thing). Basically one of the mods in discord said to change my Loader Settings, I did, still cant play. I told him and havent heard anything..... :( If you know anything or could help Id owe you big time
@@IBrinkI Whats your user name? May be I can pick up from there.
@@subhadeepjasu292 my discord name is IBrink#0029. I posted in the Troubleshooting-Help thread. If you want to message me directly on there so I can also tell you what a Dev or Mod told me on my post on reddit. Again Thank you very much for taking the time to help in whatever way you can
@@subhadeepjasu292 I somehow found out how to open the game but now my screen is flickering solid white, but I can head the music in the background behind SPV3 Initializing screen. If you could help Id deeply appreciate it.
Every youtuber has good frames while my game is stuttery and droping to the 20s from 60+ on a GTX 1660
Game is more CPU limited due to the engine being so old, adding all that scripting and code to the game has really made the game run clunky even on decent systems. AMD CPUs suffer the worst from this, unfortunately.
@@IndyMiraaga i have a ryzen cpu...hmm thanks now it makes more sense
@@John-it3wn My 3600 still stutters and hitches during gameplay even when paired with 32 gigs of very fast RAM and a 2070 Super. The fact it manages to run at all on a 20+ year-old engine is impressive as hell though.
@@IndyMiraaga damn i see yeah these guys pulled a miracle blam engine especially ce's is ancient
Check the optimization guides - WIndows 10 thinks the original Halo CE engine is a mobile game and treats it with low resources by default
I love your videos
I'd love to see a passion project like this for halo 4. I'm a huge fan of the h4 story but having a 'classic halo' overhaul like SPV3 and seeing how fans would tackle the environment and story of the game would be very interesting.
The closest thing is the RUBY rebalance he’s working on. Two levels are done. It’s cool but nothing like this
I tried this over the past few days - I wish I could see this how you do. I don't like it at all. I know it's a case of personal taste, but this left a bad taste in my mouth.
I went in with good expectations, as per people's reviews of this game. I was just blindsided by an experience that left a horrible taste in my mouth.
Love the video though mate. You've got an excellent mind for this kind of stuff.
I'd definitely wouldn't say that its the mod 343 should learn from or that it is the next step for Halo, if the stretched levels, crude enemy AI and enemy encounters, bloated weapon sandbox, poor balance and difficulty, gimmicks shoved in your face, even the music feeling too amplified or over-enthusiastic is anything to come across. The mod has definite flaws, and I'd even say, with how its constructed, that the mod doesnt have much flow at all and that there's too much to use, so nothing feels distinct after a few missions. If I had any noteworthy final comment to leave off on for anyone else reading this, be mindful of what you like and dont like and formulate your own opinion accordingly, SPV3 is not perfect and should never be treated as perfect.
Hmmmmm.....as someone who really likes CEA/2A soundtracks, I never considered them grand.
8:01 did you run over that Marine?!?! Be honest otherwise I can only see the dislike button!!
I would definitely say it’s potential is kind of held back by the engine they are using. The graphics feel held back, the gameplay could be rebalanced so you don’t have 5 different single shot weapons. I think they could have the DMR be the quiet stealth weapon than have the Silenced BR.
Why, hello there?
Imma call it speeve
General Kenobi
General Kenobi
In my eyes, I prefer *Halo: CE Anniversary* much more than SPV. It's just the way I am with the Halo lore and franchise.
Anniversary will always hurt
Speaking of SPV3. I did stream halo spv3.3 and found some new rooms in the pillar of autumn that wasn't there before in spv3.2. heh but got alot to run through.
Wait I've been out of the loop for a bit with Halo. What's SPV3?
(Edit): So I installed it and holy shit it's fun. So glad I did a full legendary run with a friend on the MCC because that really prepared me for the difficulty on this too
the best cmapaign overhaul ever made
Basically a crap ton of fuckin things mashed into a Halo CE (first game) mod
Imagine having installed a fuckton of mods on Garry's Mod, this is basically that
How do I download this for the Master Chief Collection?
I did a double take when I saw that needler reload
SPV3 looked like that high-school super star Diva that demands so much stuff. Looks great but hard to maintain, it's got ideas but I cannot for the love of me play it without my computer screaming for mercy...
Apparently according to Noodle
The decision making to why a feature would be added was, and I quote “Because it was cool”
That’s how I would develop a game lmao
Half-true. That was the first part, and the second part was "because we can." Many features could admittedly be described as proof-of-concept. But again, they're still cool.
@@BiomechanicalBrick yes but he got that info from ex cmt members, and there are a lot of them lol.
imagine spv3 type mods for the other halos.
I also want to see a brutal halo mod.
we have brutal doom,brutal half life brutal quake (quake 1.5)
Finally get the dismemberment that bungie always wanted
Yes. I want to chop elites to pieces with an energy sword!
@@acreativename7999 i don't just mean dismemberment i also mean throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. i love to see crazy shit like oh yeah were gonna add the UT99 flak cannon to halo and make the player zoom around. oh and lets also i dunno add brutes with weak points. and while were at it we might as well ad rocket jumping.
this is pretty much what reach evolved is. minus custom assets.
I'd love to see an enemy gib after being super-combined with the Needler or stuck with a Plasma Grenade.
SPV3 needler reload is 😢
after watching noodles rant on this mod i wont be touching it with a 10 foot pole.
I also saw that rant but I'd at least try it for yourself first.
Noodle's opinion is mostly him being mad like a hipster cuz it's popular and it got articles. Because of an outadated build that is irrelevant now because of a lot of changes, corrections and fixes that has come since in newer versions... and most importantly, the "CMT developper" he talked about without giving any name whatsoever, and spitting bullshit with "we only add stuff cuz it's cool", when it's not the case at all.
As a result, it spreads misinformation, and of course, some people prefer being stupid and naive and take it as fact.
Which brings me to you: Please develop the skill to doubt people and informations, as well as a personality. Thank you.
Meanwhile, if you have any actual good negative critc about the mod, go to the discord, and offer feedback.
@@ProsecutorValentine dude i've seen enough about the mod to know that i never want to play it. for instance, having a battle rifle with a single shot mode is already incredibly stupid. but having that in the same game as the magnum, the dmr and other precision weapons just makes the weapon sandbox bloated. why would they have added those guns for any reason other than because its cool?
you've got your head shoved far up your ass buddy.
I absolutely love the elite HUD shown at 14:21, it's reminiscent of the Halo builds from the 90s but with its own style and fits perfectly 👌
I've played it, and honestly, it just really isn't for me. It no longer feels like halo ce, and that it just takes everything from every halo game and crams it into one game. It's clustered and claustrophobic.
It’s bloated
11:00 It also feels thematically appropriate.
Another Operation Trebechut video? Please?
I would like SPV3 more if the art style and assets didn't clash as much and if the dude that made it didn't hate Halo 2 and 3. Plus remove the rape section from his terminals lore that he and his team have made.
"Halo's great and all but what it really needs is some more forcible extraterrestrial zombie incest." - No one ever
My opinion on the whole soundtrack situation, I think that soundtracks like Halo 2 Anniversary’s and SPV3’s go good on their own, but in the campaign’s context, they just don’t fit the same as the original soundtracks.