Yes but they're trying to push the more expensive mud tyre for selling. Promoting it the most and I'm sure a lot of people will buy these after watching.
GGFCHMMAL if your doing hard tracks than you get muddies but if you just going on the beach and on the road a lot like I do you get AT’s. simple they aren’t trying to sell tyres they are giving facts
@@MoonKnightH8 This is their bread and butter. Maybe I'm being pessimistic but I can't help but see through it as a big advertisement which is fine. I won't trust talk but more proof of a product and how it works. Always putting the A/T's last on the tracks is always less traction except in the mud hole where it's best to go second which the honour was given to the M/T's. Point is the M/T's were given advantage, they cost more, so promoted for more sales than the A/T'S. By the way Heath, make sure your tyres don't have too stiff a side wall if you mainly do sand driving. You want the tyre to balloon out with not too low pressures to keep the beads on the rims. Just in case you didn't know, I think people aren't so aware of that. 🥴
You need to establish a control before any test like this. Same road, same speed. And using a radial as a base for the “lowest” possible Db. And then establish a difference from there. Basing the results off the control rather than the variables. yes the difference between at and mt is the same, but compared to a control (quietest possible outcome) you can more accurately determine which type of tire is best suited, based on its off road performance. If the control is reading a 89 DB, the At 107 DB and the Mt a 109 (just an example). You’d be stupid to not go with muds based on the other results. Just my two cents
Would have been better if you didn’t know what tyres you had on until the end e.g. your team change the tyres for you, then get you into the 4x4 blindfolded until you’re sat down then remove the blindfold for the test.
I think you've picked a very aggressive AT in the Duratrac, and a hybrid MT/R, they were always going to be a closer pairing than the average AT vs MT. Nonetheless, another good review.
@@HighAsFk i got them in the same size on my GU. had them for maybe 33,000kms and they're at about 70ish% wear? I will only be using the same tyres. Great on road, great off road.
I run Maxiis Big Horn tyres on my farm ute here in the High Country of Victoria where it gets very very wet and boggy and they have never let me down...bit noisy on the bitumen but great in the paddock...river crossings and bogs...and I might add very well priced compared to some other brands. Recommended by a local tyre dealer here and many other farmers swear by them !! Thanks Shauno and looking forward to the next Shed video !!
Great video again Shauno! I’m running Yokohama Geolandar A/Ts on my ute, it’s mostly used on the highway but does see mud occasionally. I didn’t notice any extra road noise when compared to the road tyres that were on it before, and the wet weather grip of the A/Ts is pretty impressive
I'm glad it wasn't just me seeing the camera trickery. Anyone notice on the rock step the rear wheel placement while close, the MT had a smaller rock to climb than the AT where it narrowly misses the smaller rock and hit straight into the front of the rock step. At around 8:30 mark
Completely different line. Can't be compared . I might be seeing things but the brake test he seems to lift off the brakes towards the end of the run with the ATs. But end of the day he's comparing the same branded sponsor and doesn't have anything to achieve by winning one over the other.
Going up the rock and rut section, the MTs where in the dry, the ATs were in the wet... Watch starting at 6:30ish onward as they show glimpse of the MTs
Major difference for me was snow and ice traction. Running AT allows me to run 1 tire all year round, whereas when I had MTs I had to have a separate set of snow tires. Tire wear is also an issue, where I found the MT was a much softer compound that didn't last as long, even if it grips better.
It’s so great to see someone who uses a diff lock properly, when it’s actually needed instead of locking constantly whenever there’s the slightest bit of slippery ground where a bit of proper driving and line would be more than enough to get through, proper off road driving dude, very refreshing to see👍👍
I ran Toyo AT2's on my MN Triton and run them again on my MQ, typical of any AT it do get stuck in clay/mud if I'm not careful. What attracted me to them was the longevity, I got 80,000kms out of the set on my MN and have heard of people getting 100,000kms out of them. I don't plan on lifting the car any time soon but I still like to get out and have do some tracks because I've even surprised myself on how well a stock car can perform, it's all about picking good lines but of course bash plates, sliders and F and R bar work are a must
I run Duratrac AT’s over here in Canada. Most of the tracks we are driving are dirt (soft and hard) and rocky terrain in the Rocky Mountains. and obviously snow and ice. Love them, they spit out the mud better than the BF K02. It is time to upgrade as they are worn out but instead of just buying another set it’s research time. Useful info, very surprised with the blacktop results.
same here awesome tyres. Only avoid deep mudholes at ALL costs lol. I tried them on 2 different occasions and both times I got stuck like hell (no forward no backward) and my 4x4 has 3 locking diffs it didnt even help lol. other than that i love the KO2s
I've had both tires and love both. They have distinct features that should be considered depending on the type of rig and terrain. In Washington, where we wheel in wet conditions well into the spring and even summer, the MT will do very well. For a daily driver that sees mostly road use and snow, I would get the Duratrac ATs. They are a beast when driving over snowy mountain passes, which we do quite often to get to the more rural, eastern part of the state. For a dedicated off-road rig, I'd go MT all day. I daily drove my Tacoma with 35" GY MTs and they lost their aggressive bite pretty quick. Almost to the point where they didn't do much better than the GY ATs. The GY MTs do great in deeper snow off-road but aren't as good in the snow on road... obviously...they arent snow rated like the ATs are. Everyone in my group runs GY ATs so I've got a few years of comparison between both tires. When I replace my GY MTs, while I loved how they did off-road, I'm going to switch back to the GY AT because the AT is a very aggressive AT and still does very good on-road, which is where the majority of driving takes place for this rig. My 1980 Hilux, dedicated off-road, rig will get the MTs. Anyway...hope that helps a few people in their decision...
Im running Bf Goodrich at tyres on my stx550 navara and have found them to be a very capable tyre.Ran them across the Plenty H/way and didnt have a problem at all. As a testement, we hit a grid too hard on the wrong angle and buckeld a Navara alloy rim. By the time we managed to pull up , I expected to see the side walls torn out. No damage at all. At Alice springs we changed that tyre over too my son in laws spare rim as he had blown 2 hancooks. Ill definately be buying these tyres again.
This channel is epic! I’ve recently started to get into off-roading and learning mechanic skills, lots for me to learn from this channel! Aloha from Maui, Hawaii🤙🏼🤙🏼
Ive been running the goodyear AT's for 2years and i have to agree with Shaun they are very good and only let me down a few times climbing but more right boot and i am up. So keep up the good work Shaun and Goodyear. Highly recommended 👌
Thank you for the comparison, I run BFG K20’s All Terrains on my 99 suburban k1500. I do. lot of beach driving here on South Padre Island Texas. but I also love the trails.
Just changed from ko2 bfg to Yokohama g003 mt and really happy with road performance and sound, but more importantly offroad capability. The other factor that should be considered is fuel consumption. Always buy a quality M/T tyre as they will out perform cheaper brands most of the time.
I was debating between the MT's and the AT's so did a search and saw this video. Since I do not do sand but rather pavement and rock I am glad I went with the MT's. Nice too see a real world test on tires vs someone in a garage giving their opinion of the tire they just got for free to promote.
Around 30 seconds, he explains that mud tires gets bad milage and all terrain gets better milage. The price varies on brand, size tire, and type. Everyone has different budget and needs. This video mainly covers how mud and all terrain tires behave off road and on road. Some people may not want to spend the extra for name brand. Mud tires can cost less than all terrain due to brand. Or the other way around, all terrain can be cheaper than mud tires due to brand. Some people want tires that can tow with better load range. The load range play in price differences. The price is ultimately up to the owner budget and need. You can spend a lot of money on tires but the differences impact the price such as what I mentioned above.
Justin the test here was also to reduce those differences by using same brand. So km and $$$ difference here would be valid. Soupkitchen Google is not the answer to everything (but I agree it could be done) but as a comparison test it should have been included. I mean a 10% difference in performance is close but if the (and I have not checked this as it's first reaction) muddies cost 15% more with say 5% less km then does the at tyre come out on top - maybe for some.
I run AT's on my 4Runner. My takeaway from this video is that, other than in muddy stuff, the AT's and a locker will get the job done performance-wise. I would prefer less noise in the cabin also, which tips the scales for me. That said, I was impressed by the MTs!
Would be interesting to run both sets over time to see what milage difference is. Also cost difference. For a lot of people milage and cost is a big factor.
i am one minute in and friggin pumped. i always wanted to run this test myself but that would take me a lot of time and money. Thanx being the best 4wd channel on youtube!
Thanks for putting in so much effort to testing this, I'm looking to put some AT or MT tyres on my Jeep WJ to replace my old Goodyear Wrangler AT's from the mid 2000's and wanting a more aggresive tread pattern. This was really helpful, I'm going to go with the AT in 33" as they've really improved the aggresiveness of the tread pattern. Cheers from the UK
All terrain. My vehicle is my daily driver, I go camping (on dirt roads) once a month sometimes twice. Throw in 3-4 Vic high country 4WD trips in a year. So far it's served me well, got bogged once but I have a winch so got out easily. Noise and fuel economy put me off muddies. Well done 4WD Action, great content.
Same here. Every time I try a set of MTs I regret it and switch back to ATs. I've driven loads of other cars at work with all sorts of tires and ATs are superior for a daily.
I run Micky Thompson Baja AT'S Never had a problem on or off road...but as he said just engage the locker and off you go isn't that why we install them to help in tough situations...keep up the good work guys
I've had two sets of 315/70LT17 Duratracs on my Ram 1500 Touring/Overland rig and absolutely love them, it was not mentioned here, because the boys down unda don't get the winter weather we get up here in Canada, but the Duratrac AT are one of the best performing tire you can buy for Severe winter weather, out performing all other ATs. We never recommend a M/T for winte,r as they don't have the small sipeing to help them stick to ice. In winter, a MT only works well in deep snow, hard packed snow and ice are downright dangerous with a MT. Keep up the great work Legends!!!!
Plus the track on the hill climb looked dry asf on camera when the muddies were on, but the 'same hill' looked greasy and wet when the all terrains was on.
The line taken on the rock climb was also different which meant hang up (ramping out) of the truck was more likely with the AT and therefore loss of momentum and traction
My wife and I run BFG KO2s year round. Mostly because we get a 40k millage warranty on them . With a mud terrain there is no warranty for mileage. Great video. Have a great day
Only question not answered is. What’s the expected life of the tyre? My all terrains have done over 100,000km and still have life in them how do muddies stack up
I've had both ko2s got just over 100k and the km2s I got 90k! So not bad for a muddy, have km3s now I'll see how they go they look a little more hybrid then the km2s so a good allrounder 👌
Awesome video! I run ATs because of the frequency I drive in snow and the tracks I run are nothing like what you guys do! So the trade off is worth it for me.
You guys rock. I've been watching your videos for a long time now. And I didn't just enjoy it, I actually learnt a lot from your videos - picking lines, driving techniques. This video is super helpful too as I have a tire change coming up and was thinking if we should jump from AT to MT for our Overland journey. It's only a 4x4 Sprinter so I will never come across terrain like you guys but it still helps to see you push them to the limit. I think we'll stick to the ATs. Overlanding does happen 75-90% on track if I'm true to myself hehe. You rock!
I've been running Falken Wildpeak AT3s on my 4wd and they've taken me everywhere including back home. With that said I'm considering trying out the Falken MTs next go around.
Alan Montgomery I run both. Falken A/T on a Pajero and the M/T on a 75 Series Ute. We live in the Vic High Country and I am super impressed with the Falken M/T’s in the steep muddy tracks around home. Done approx 25000km with excellent wear , not 1 puncture and stick like shit to a blanket. Highly recommend them and the price was excellent compared to the big brand names as well. Give em a go mate I think you’ll like them. 👍🍺
Second that. I also run the Falken M/T 35 inch tyres on my vdj. I'm super impressed how well they go. Not to loud for a M/T on road either, that's with about 20,000km on them also.
K Phillips mate haven’t found this myself on the contrary, I have found the grip on wet tarmac to be very impressive for a muddy. May change as the tyres rack up more k’s though. We’ll see. Cheers 🍻
@@darrenc4096 good to know. I'm on 16" rims / 35", had Duratrac, great traction, mileage, and fuel. Load range E. Tried milestar Patagonia, Great traction, not so on mileage, and so so on fuel, load range C... I was curious on the wildpeaks. Gonna try them next based on your comment. Also, BF KO under steer with Duratrac neutral and milestar slight oversteer, need a little toe out.
I run Toyo Open Country AT IIs on my truck. Love them! Great off road and on road. Gonna switch it up and go to the MT to experience them and see how they are
I run A/T on my truck because it is a weekend warrior. Its Pavement monday-Friday but offroad Saturdays and sundays with the family. they work perfectly for the mountains I live in 👍
I run road-tyres 90% of the time, and have another set of rims with MTs on for when I go off road. This gives me the best of both worlds: quiet, handling, and economy when in everyday use; grip when I plan to want it.
Here in California, most drivers I know switched from BF Goodrich A/T, to BFG M/T KM2's or KM3's with good results. I have KM2's 31inch on an FJ, moving up to 33's and KM3's next tire change. I had BFG A/T's and noticed no change in mileage, no change in street grip even when wet, and no increase in noise. There is only one place in central Ca where you can play on the beach and it is 320 miles from me so I only did that once. (Pismo Beach) I prefer the mountains and they are only 90 miles away so that's were I play. Love M/T's.
I have 33 inch BF Goodrich muddies and they slide like crazy as soon as the road is wet ahaha. AT's are alot more grippy. way more surface area touching the road.
Lauchie Stewart My 31in KO2’s on my tacoma are great in the rain! I had those AT duratracs and i’d be hydroplaning all the time, not the case with the new set of BFG’s
@@lauchiestewart8092 Thanks for your comment here. I have 31 in BFG 3 and they hate wet roads to the point i think it becomes dangerus if you are not aware of it. I wonder why this is not a big topic. (ps love them off road! Greate tyres!!!)
2017 SR hilux. For 3 yrs I swapped between Michelin HT and BFG MT tyres. The noise level was evident every time but certainly not an issue with the MT's on. They are not 'loud', it's a mild increase and doesn't bother me at all. Chalk and cheese off road. MT's are miles ahead. HT are smoother on the tarmac and have better grip. I'd be happy with full time MTs.
If you live somewhere where it snows I always recommend General Grabber AT3 they have a softer rubber and tread slits for snow so are fully rated for winter (snowflake/mountain symbol) as well as summer and still seem to last a very long time too. Great for a multi country overland vehicle where you can’t change tyres all the time and have to do huge highway miles various conditions and climates as well as off-road.
Just recently saved up and bought a set of both 33" AT's for road and beach and 35" Muddies for weekend warrior runs to Glassy/ bigger trips 🤙 I went this way so I dont wear out/ have to replace my 35's for ages as my GU coil cab ute is my daily 🤠👍
The Goodyear Duratrac is not an AT though. They are an RT or rugged terrain. The Goodyear AT is the Adventure. Most people don’t recognize the new segment RT. But toyo, Nitto and Cooper all make RT tires.
4x4 Camping and Adventures 100%. They’re an RT. And tire(I’m Canadian that’s how we spell it) shops that don’t recognize the new segment of the hybrid RT segment would call the duratrac a mud terrain due to its large lug gaps.
MT all the way! Currently running Toyo open country 235/85/16 and I'm very happy with them. Used to run BFG MT which were very good also, but way more expensive.
Just put a set of Falken wild peak AT3's on my triton only been up teewah with them so far but I found them really good in the soft sand and excellent on the road especially in the wet.
Great job Shaun. We recently put wrangler durotrac on my daughters Jeep Wrangler and we where surprised how well they handle on and off road even more surprised how well they handle in the wet. I’m running BFG K02 on my triton we found that they are pretty good also but they are slightly less noisy than the durotrac.
Would be good to see the difference in Kms you get between A/T and M/T. I used to run Goodyear A/T 31” (less aggressive than the ones Shauno is flogging here) on an old rodeo and got 100xxx kms. Switched to the BFG Ko2 and got similar lifetime. Would be interesting to see what I would have got with M/T. Would also want to see the difference in fuel economy. Surely M/T’s being more aggressive and heavier will affect that. Cheers for these videos legends
@@formerlyuser123 I had a set of Km3. needed new tyres at the start of summer, so put on some wrangler AT. more than half the price saved with the wranglers compaired to the bfg muddies. i shopped around, and there was a 100 dollar difference between the most expensive, and cheapest tyre shop. I thought fuel consumption wouldve dropped... but i think its actually increased slightly. Im hoping I get more kms out of them tho.
Currently General Grabber ATX. My favorite tires were 37" Interco Super Swamper Iroks. I was in the mud lots. They wore quick and were loud as hell but I got through some deep, sticky mud in 2 wheel drive.
Had the KO2's on my previous truck, absolutely loved them, real grippy on road and hardly wore down (and I gave them a hard life), plenty of grip off road even better than the budget muddies I got with the truck
The goodyear duratracs wear pretty fast. They are a very soft compound to get better grip. I've ran them an a jeep and they wore down pretty fast. Good traction though.
A/T. I have the newer generation of KO2's that are winter/ice rated. I use them year round and even plow with them. They are as good in ice and snow as my last set of dedicated winter tires!
The Duratrac is not an Allterrain Tire, its more of a intermediate between MT and AT, should have tested the Goodyear AT tire which is a lot less agressive.
The duratrac is an AT. It might be a very soft sticky AT but it stacks up with other name brand AT tires. It has a very close tread pattern and a good amount of siping for wet and winter conditions.
@@jennBourne Jen it's the most aggressive AT around. It's close to an MT without being one. The space between blocks on my Duras are huge compared to other AT's. Cheers
Was running 32s, falken wildpeak at3s for a couple of years, pretty good tyre actually. Have just put on 33s, Maxxis Razr Muddies, had a read a heap of good reviews on them, hoping to take them out and get dirty once we're allowed.
@@itsyaboimat2393 I've got Achilles Desert Hawk xmt on my Ford F-150 and they do great in the snow mad you don't even need to use the four-wheel-drive unless you get over 6in
@@itsyaboimat2393 MTs are terrible in the snow. Get an AT with 3-peak standard. Duratracs are commonly used up here for snow plows, they are my next AT as I do not like my KO2s.
This is a wonderful info. i drive with AT even when going up rural places especially on timber roads in Borneo. So far i don't have much of an issue as the new Toyota Hilux with its locker can cope easily with the condition. The only problem is when its constantly raining and roads pretty much slippery.
You don't get the noice really from muddys till the get to about 70% tread left and when testing the grip you should've tested it in the wet that's when you really lose the grip on a muddy on ashphalt when it's wet not when it's dry
I generally sell off my muddies before 70k, BUT I also rotate my tires every 5k and don’t have the noise or traction issues at higher mileage due to inconsistent wear.
I run 35" BFG AT2's on my 07 Ford Expedition. Most of my driving is black top or dirt roads to the trails. Have run BFG's since I had a 87 Toyota back on high school.. Great on road manners as well.
Also depends on what type of wheeling you do. Here in Michigan a decent AT will be good for about 95% of folks, especially if you stay out of the swimming pools... I got MTs on my first rig, and I've had ATs on everything since.
I’ve a set of each, BFGs. As I do 80% on asphalt, I keep the ATs on unless I do some offroad tracks, then I do a swap if it’s going to be an all day or all weekend outing. For just a short offroad run, it’s not worth the spannering. ATs on wet asphalt can be a lifesaver compared with muds, and likewise in the winter when there’s some packed snow, the sipes on the ATs come into their own. I’ve always thought some sipes in the mud tyre blocks would help them on asphalt, with no detrimental effects on performance in the mud. Good comparison video though Shauno, thanks for all the effort. 👍🏻🇷🇴🇬🇧
The Goodyear Duratracs are among the very best and most aggressive AT tires available. In fact, I'd say they are probably better described as "Hybrid" tires rather than a true "AT". If you are experiencing differences between the Duratracs and the MT/Rs, I can't even imagine the difference between the MT/Rs and more traditional AT tires. I run the MT/Rs on my Suburban 2500 and, truth be told -- as much as I love them -- would probably be better off with the Duratracs. I just ordered a set of Cooper S/T MAXX hybrids for my Mercedes G550 and can't wait to see how they perform. Great review. Keep 'em coming!!!
@@mikeykeyes easy enough to avoid.. just give more space between his vehicle and the vehicle in front and his 4x4 still will look more awesome than yours with your ATs lol. i will be putting mud tires on my baby - the look factor alone is worth the disadvantages on blacktop - as long as the drive knows the limit and doesn't drive to exceed it.. might as well have the 4x4 looking awesome!
I have the Goodyear Duratracs on my 4runner. With the amount of snow we get here in the USA, the AT tires are the clear winner, especially the Duratracs with their ice sipes and severe snow rating. MTs are borderline dangerous when on ice or packed snow, though they are a bit better off-road in deep snow. Also, I live close to the beach, and my off-road driving is 90% soft sand vs 10% mud and rocks when I'm overlanding.
Thanks for the great info. I am a weekend warrior and mostly do fire roads and some rocks once or twice a year. The falken wildpeak at3 31” on my Tacoma is great. I run a “SL” load. Mostly because we do drive it a lot on the regular roads as well
I run the Milestar Pategonia's 35 inch MT and love them, reasonably quiet for a mud terrain tire and awesome offroad. The wear is very even and these tires are looking like they will last about 60k miles. Best tires I have ever ran.
Shauno, you make a really good point about choosing tyres. Essentially, "horses for courses". If muddies are better off-road than AT's at 20PSI, I'd be curious to know, if you ran the AT's at 18PSI and the Muddies at 20PSI what the difference would be? Essentially basing your tyre pressure also on the "horses for courses" principle. I run 33" AT's and usually go to 18 in the tough stuff.
Biggest difference in Canada is winter weather traction! The MTR stiffens right up and rides like hockey pucks, the duratracs stay nice and soft and become really great in the Ice and snow 😄
I run Wrangler m/t off road and toyo open country on bitumen. Have 2 sets of tyres and have the best of both worlds. Highway tyres can be picked up for a song as most blokes put AT/MT's on as soon as they buy the new rig and take the highway tyres off instantly.
I too use duratracs on my milder overland vehicles year around and Muddy’s on my two trail trucks because of the sidewalk strength and extra grip. Never tested them like you have side by side just went with what felt right. Glad to know I wasn’t all that out of wack!
Up here in Canada the AT's are the only choice with the winter. You can run a Duratrac all year road, asphalt to dirt to mud to snow. Best all around tire.
I slapped a Mud Tyre on the rear and a All Terrain tyre on the front on my 4x2 Ford Ranger XLT 2014 Model, 2.2L and went on an off road action. It performs very well and now its called 4x2.5 and is now much more capable even if I basically run on 1 wheel sometimes without the diff locker. The Mud Tyre on the rear for my 4x2 is the best decision I made on my 4x2 wheels so far. I can't afford to buy 4x4 in a mint condition so I decided to get a cheaper used 4x2. They don't look bad because I choose the tyre with similarity in sidewall design even if they are different brands. So you won't notice that they are different tyres unless you go a little closer.
I run 31x10.5 inch BFG AT here in the States because they are great for my 88 fj62 all around but really stand out in the snow. From -20F on roads like ice hockey rinks (just don't touch your brakes) to the muddy slushy spring mess they always get me and mine home safe. They are just as good as the highest rated snow only tires for my cruiser, probably because it weighs a fair bit. That's a winner. I do have a 2.5inch Dobinson lift and bigger drilled ebc greenstuff brakes, but have never needed to go bigger/taller, and as far as mud/mud tires goes..... When in doubt, use the skinny pedal on the right and don't be shy... Or go back and get the wifeys Subaru! It begs me to sometimes. She loves pulling up next to $50K pavement pounder jeepers in a freshly painted mud car and asking them why their 4x4 doesn't have any dirt on it. Good fun. She runs AT tires too, not regular all season tires. Almost gets everywhere I can unless clearance issues. When winter snow hits I slap on the Blizzak snow tires. Nothing finer, cept me wife maybe! Cheers. Good vid Shauno!
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What do you run on your 4WD? Mud Terrains or All terrains and why? Comment below!
Muddies
All terrains because I can not afford muddys
305/70/16 Toyo open country M/T love the grip offroad and very quite on road
¿Por qué no los dos? Milestar Patagonia crew 🤙
What kind of tire do you suggest for a daily driver and not so tough stuff on weekends? Mt or At. Thank you mate.
Can we acknowledge that all this is provided to us for free, thank you 4wd action
I say the same thing when the adds come on tv I love paid product placement
Yes but they're trying to push the more expensive mud tyre for selling. Promoting it the most and I'm sure a lot of people will buy these after watching.
GGFCHMMAL if your doing hard tracks than you get muddies but if you just going on the beach and on the road a lot like I do you get AT’s. simple they aren’t trying to sell tyres they are giving facts
@@MoonKnightH8 This is their bread and butter. Maybe I'm being pessimistic but I can't help but see through it as a big advertisement which is fine.
I won't trust talk but more proof of a product and how it works. Always putting the A/T's last on the tracks is always less traction except in the mud hole where it's best to go second which the honour was given to the M/T's. Point is the M/T's were given advantage, they cost more, so promoted for more sales than the A/T'S.
By the way Heath, make sure your tyres don't have too stiff a side wall if you mainly do sand driving. You want the tyre to balloon out with not too low pressures to keep the beads on the rims. Just in case you didn't know, I think people aren't so aware of that. 🥴
They are monetized videos so free to us but they get paid
A 1dB difference is about 26%. If it were 3dB difference, thats double the sound engergy. 1dB is still pretty significant
what he said :)
You need to establish a control before any test like this. Same road, same speed. And using a radial as a base for the “lowest” possible Db. And then establish a difference from there. Basing the results off the control rather than the variables. yes the difference between at and mt is the same, but compared to a control (quietest possible outcome) you can more accurately determine which type of tire is best suited, based on its off road performance. If the control is reading a 89 DB, the At 107 DB and the Mt a 109 (just an example). You’d be stupid to not go with muds based on the other results. Just my two cents
Yeah you can hear the difference in the video too
@@lindonsmith7974 agree 100%, except the last sentence, you'd have to take price and milage into consideration too.
This^^^
Maybe rain made the 10% difference there Shauno.
This channel is starting to turn into a 4WD documentary, and that's cool.
Would have been better if you didn’t know what tyres you had on until the end e.g. your team change the tyres for you, then get you into the 4x4 blindfolded until you’re sat down then remove the blindfold for the test.
Phil McAvity yes! I thought exactly the same 👍🏽
and as soon as he put diff lock on with AT it was fine..why wouldnt you use all aids if you have them..weid review
I don't put low range or locker until I need it. Ever
@don conte that's how you dont unnecisarly tear up the tracks and get em closed.
You can really tell the difference on the trail and on the road.
I think you've picked a very aggressive AT in the Duratrac, and a hybrid MT/R, they were always going to be a closer pairing than the average AT vs MT. Nonetheless, another good review.
Running 33” TOYO Open Country RT’s absolutely love them,
Quite on road and perform well in the sand and in the mud I’ve found.
How much did you pay for a set and how’s the wear on them going mark?
@@HighAsFk i got them in the same size on my GU. had them for maybe 33,000kms and they're at about 70ish% wear?
I will only be using the same tyres. Great on road, great off road.
Also for 5 I paid around 1200
I run Maxiis Big Horn tyres on my farm ute here in the High Country of Victoria where it gets very very wet and boggy and they have never let me down...bit noisy on the bitumen but great in the paddock...river crossings and bogs...and I might add very well priced compared to some other brands. Recommended by a local tyre dealer here and many other farmers swear by them !! Thanks Shauno and looking forward to the next Shed video !!
Great video again Shauno! I’m running Yokohama Geolandar A/Ts on my ute, it’s mostly used on the highway but does see mud occasionally. I didn’t notice any extra road noise when compared to the road tyres that were on it before, and the wet weather grip of the A/Ts is pretty impressive
I'm glad it wasn't just me seeing the camera trickery. Anyone notice on the rock step the rear wheel placement while close, the MT had a smaller rock to climb than the AT where it narrowly misses the smaller rock and hit straight into the front of the rock step. At around 8:30 mark
Completely different line. Can't be compared .
I might be seeing things but the brake test he seems to lift off the brakes towards the end of the run with the ATs. But end of the day he's comparing the same branded sponsor and doesn't have anything to achieve by winning one over the other.
Going up the rock and rut section, the MTs where in the dry, the ATs were in the wet... Watch starting at 6:30ish onward as they show glimpse of the MTs
Major difference for me was snow and ice traction. Running AT allows me to run 1 tire all year round, whereas when I had MTs I had to have a separate set of snow tires.
Tire wear is also an issue, where I found the MT was a much softer compound that didn't last as long, even if it grips better.
It’s so great to see someone who uses a diff lock properly, when it’s actually needed instead of locking constantly whenever there’s the slightest bit of slippery ground where a bit of proper driving and line would be more than enough to get through, proper off road driving dude, very refreshing to see👍👍
I ran Toyo AT2's on my MN Triton and run them again on my MQ, typical of any AT it do get stuck in clay/mud if I'm not careful. What attracted me to them was the longevity, I got 80,000kms out of the set on my MN and have heard of people getting 100,000kms out of them.
I don't plan on lifting the car any time soon but I still like to get out and have do some tracks because I've even surprised myself on how well a stock car can perform, it's all about picking good lines but of course bash plates, sliders and F and R bar work are a must
I run Duratrac AT’s over here in Canada. Most of the tracks we are driving are dirt (soft and hard) and rocky terrain in the Rocky Mountains. and obviously snow and ice. Love them, they spit out the mud better than the BF K02. It is time to upgrade as they are worn out but instead of just buying another set it’s research time. Useful info, very surprised with the blacktop results.
I have run the goodyear ATR's for years and taken them everywhere, defently an advantage not having to change tires between work and fun
I run BFGoodrich AT KO2's. And very happy with them. They perform quite well and I haven't had any drama's with them.
same here awesome tyres. Only avoid deep mudholes at ALL costs lol. I tried them on 2 different occasions and both times I got stuck like hell (no forward no backward) and my 4x4 has 3 locking diffs it didnt even help lol. other than that i love the KO2s
Yeah I have them aswell.
They are shithouse in serious mud though, they just become super slick
KO2s are basically a durable street tire.
I've had both tires and love both. They have distinct features that should be considered depending on the type of rig and terrain. In Washington, where we wheel in wet conditions well into the spring and even summer, the MT will do very well. For a daily driver that sees mostly road use and snow, I would get the Duratrac ATs. They are a beast when driving over snowy mountain passes, which we do quite often to get to the more rural, eastern part of the state.
For a dedicated off-road rig, I'd go MT all day. I daily drove my Tacoma with 35" GY MTs and they lost their aggressive bite pretty quick. Almost to the point where they didn't do much better than the GY ATs. The GY MTs do great in deeper snow off-road but aren't as good in the snow on road... obviously...they arent snow rated like the ATs are.
Everyone in my group runs GY ATs so I've got a few years of comparison between both tires. When I replace my GY MTs, while I loved how they did off-road, I'm going to switch back to the GY AT because the AT is a very aggressive AT and still does very good on-road, which is where the majority of driving takes place for this rig. My 1980 Hilux, dedicated off-road, rig will get the MTs.
Anyway...hope that helps a few people in their decision...
Good comparison, thanks.
Im running Bf Goodrich at tyres on my stx550 navara and have found them to be a very capable tyre.Ran them across the Plenty H/way and didnt have a problem at all. As a testement, we hit a grid too hard on the wrong angle and buckeld a Navara alloy rim. By the time we managed to pull up , I expected to see the side walls torn out. No damage at all. At Alice springs we changed that tyre over too my son in laws spare rim as he had blown 2 hancooks. Ill definately be buying these tyres again.
This channel is epic! I’ve recently started to get into off-roading and learning mechanic skills, lots for me to learn from this channel! Aloha from Maui, Hawaii🤙🏼🤙🏼
Ive been running the goodyear AT's for 2years and i have to agree with Shaun they are very good and only let me down a few times climbing but more right boot and i am up. So keep up the good work Shaun and Goodyear. Highly recommended 👌
6:53 wasn't the test of the AT tires a little muddy? it looks like when the MT tires test was done it was dry. --> 7:15
Definitely.
Thank you for the comparison, I run BFG K20’s All Terrains on my 99 suburban k1500. I do. lot of beach driving here on South Padre Island Texas. but I also love the trails.
Just changed from ko2 bfg to Yokohama g003 mt and really happy with road performance and sound, but more importantly offroad capability. The other factor that should be considered is fuel consumption. Always buy a quality M/T tyre as they will out perform cheaper brands most of the time.
I was debating between the MT's and the AT's so did a search and saw this video. Since I do not do sand but rather pavement and rock I am glad I went with the MT's. Nice too see a real world test on tires vs someone in a garage giving their opinion of the tire they just got for free to promote.
Hi. You missed price difference between the two and mileage difference. Great content though.
Google it
Around 30 seconds, he explains that mud tires gets bad milage and all terrain gets better milage. The price varies on brand, size tire, and type. Everyone has different budget and needs. This video mainly covers how mud and all terrain tires behave off road and on road. Some people may not want to spend the extra for name brand. Mud tires can cost less than all terrain due to brand. Or the other way around, all terrain can be cheaper than mud tires due to brand. Some people want tires that can tow with better load range. The load range play in price differences. The price is ultimately up to the owner budget and need. You can spend a lot of money on tires but the differences impact the price such as what I mentioned above.
Justin the test here was also to reduce those differences by using same brand. So km and $$$ difference here would be valid.
Soupkitchen Google is not the answer to everything (but I agree it could be done) but as a comparison test it should have been included.
I mean a 10% difference in performance is close but if the (and I have not checked this as it's first reaction) muddies cost 15% more with say 5% less km then does the at tyre come out on top - maybe for some.
I run AT's on my 4Runner. My takeaway from this video is that, other than in muddy stuff, the AT's and a locker will get the job done performance-wise. I would prefer less noise in the cabin also, which tips the scales for me. That said, I was impressed by the MTs!
Would be interesting to run both sets over time to see what milage difference is. Also cost difference. For a lot of people milage and cost is a big factor.
i am one minute in and friggin pumped. i always wanted to run this test myself but that would take me a lot of time and money. Thanx being the best 4wd channel on youtube!
Love my Milestar Patagonia’s! ❤️🐞
They love you also I guarantee 🍻
Pats are awesome
Thanks for putting in so much effort to testing this, I'm looking to put some AT or MT tyres on my Jeep WJ to replace my old Goodyear Wrangler AT's from the mid 2000's and wanting a more aggresive tread pattern. This was really helpful, I'm going to go with the AT in 33" as they've really improved the aggresiveness of the tread pattern. Cheers from the UK
6:12 missing wheel nut?
its at the steering wheel
Eagle eyes !!
Hahaha yes
All terrain. My vehicle is my daily driver, I go camping (on dirt roads) once a month sometimes twice. Throw in 3-4 Vic high country 4WD trips in a year. So far it's served me well, got bogged once but I have a winch so got out easily. Noise and fuel economy put me off muddies. Well done 4WD Action, great content.
Same here. Every time I try a set of MTs I regret it and switch back to ATs. I've driven loads of other cars at work with all sorts of tires and ATs are superior for a daily.
I run MT tires but now I like hearing the sweet songs they sing on the payment LOL
I run Micky Thompson Baja AT'S
Never had a problem on or off road...but as he said just engage the locker and off you go isn't that why we install them to help in tough situations...keep up the good work guys
I run 35” A/T on the front and M/T on the rear, found it helps a lot in all situations..
I do a similar hybrid set up. But they are both ATs.
Interesting idea.
Insurance would be void though.
I've had two sets of 315/70LT17 Duratracs on my Ram 1500 Touring/Overland rig and absolutely love them, it was not mentioned here, because the boys down unda don't get the winter weather we get up here in Canada, but the Duratrac AT are one of the best performing tire you can buy for Severe winter weather, out performing all other ATs. We never recommend a M/T for winte,r as they don't have the small sipeing to help them stick to ice. In winter, a MT only works well in deep snow, hard packed snow and ice are downright dangerous with a MT. Keep up the great work Legends!!!!
He seemed to stop spinning the ATs pretty quickly when he got in the mud. Of course they're not gonna clear the mud when you don't spin them.
ya and the first one through the mud hole is usually the hardest
True, and gave the MT more of a go to redeem itself
Plus the track on the hill climb looked dry asf on camera when the muddies were on, but the 'same hill' looked greasy and wet when the all terrains was on.
@@krump7429 Yeah I noticed that too, wasn't sure if it was a different camera but it looked a lot sunnier when he did the MT test.
The line taken on the rock climb was also different which meant hang up (ramping out) of the truck was more likely with the AT and therefore loss of momentum and traction
My wife and I run BFG KO2s year round. Mostly because we get a 40k millage warranty on them . With a mud terrain there is no warranty for mileage.
Great video. Have a great day
Only question not answered is. What’s the expected life of the tyre? My all terrains have done over 100,000km and still have life in them how do muddies stack up
I've had both ko2s got just over 100k and the km2s I got 90k! So not bad for a muddy, have km3s now I'll see how they go they look a little more hybrid then the km2s so a good allrounder 👌
Had a set of coopers all terrain 125000 ks best tyres I ever had
@@tonyhallinan7695 Same here. And compared to the Ko2s I find them infinately better in Ice and Snow.
@@tonyhallinan7695 Same here.
100k?!?!?! Damn I've never got more than 20k out of my commodore tyres 😂
Awesome video! I run ATs because of the frequency I drive in snow and the tracks I run are nothing like what you guys do! So the trade off is worth it for me.
Would you consider the fuel consumption between the two? Especially on road..
This has a lot to do with how heavy oversized tires are vs. stock tire size. Tires are very heavy.
@@glockster22gmail But once you're up to speed the weight shouldn't matter does it?
@@mark2073 that's still more mass your engine has to compensate for, especially when encountering hills. Re gearing helps, but its still more weight.
@@mark2073 The rolling resistance matters a lot at speed
You guys rock. I've been watching your videos for a long time now. And I didn't just enjoy it, I actually learnt a lot from your videos - picking lines, driving techniques. This video is super helpful too as I have a tire change coming up and was thinking if we should jump from AT to MT for our Overland journey. It's only a 4x4 Sprinter so I will never come across terrain like you guys but it still helps to see you push them to the limit. I think we'll stick to the ATs. Overlanding does happen 75-90% on track if I'm true to myself hehe. You rock!
I've been running Falken Wildpeak AT3s on my 4wd and they've taken me everywhere including back home.
With that said I'm considering trying out the Falken MTs next go around.
Alan Montgomery I run both. Falken A/T on a Pajero and the M/T on a 75 Series Ute. We live in the Vic High Country and I am super impressed with the Falken M/T’s in the steep muddy tracks around home.
Done approx 25000km with excellent wear , not 1 puncture and stick like shit to a blanket.
Highly recommend them and the price was excellent compared to the big brand names as well.
Give em a go mate I think you’ll like them. 👍🍺
Second that. I also run the Falken M/T 35 inch tyres on my vdj. I'm super impressed how well they go. Not to loud for a M/T on road either, that's with about 20,000km on them also.
One thing to watch out for is the hard compound on m/t,slippery as an eel in the wet on Tarmac.
K Phillips mate haven’t found this myself on the contrary, I have found the grip on wet tarmac to be very impressive for a muddy.
May change as the tyres rack up more k’s though. We’ll see.
Cheers 🍻
@@darrenc4096 good to know. I'm on 16" rims / 35", had Duratrac, great traction, mileage, and fuel. Load range E.
Tried milestar Patagonia, Great traction, not so on mileage, and so so on fuel, load range C...
I was curious on the wildpeaks. Gonna try them next based on your comment.
Also, BF KO under steer with Duratrac neutral and milestar slight oversteer, need a little toe out.
Wow what a great video. So well thought about and executed. Even checking the noise. Nice one shauno
I run Toyo Open Country AT IIs on my truck. Love them! Great off road and on road. Gonna switch it up and go to the MT to experience them and see how they are
I run Toyo Open Country MTs. Fabulous tyre...! You won't regret
switching up.
I run A/T on my truck because it is a weekend warrior.
Its Pavement monday-Friday but offroad Saturdays and sundays with the family. they work perfectly for the mountains I live in 👍
I often run into snow and mud tires + snow is no bueno. Bfg ko2’s have been great for me
I run road-tyres 90% of the time, and have another set of rims with MTs on for when I go off road. This gives me the best of both worlds: quiet, handling, and economy when in everyday use; grip when I plan to want it.
You just convinced me to step up to a M/T when my A/Ts run out of life. Thanks for the insight, brother!
Here in California, most drivers I know switched from BF Goodrich A/T, to BFG M/T KM2's or KM3's with good results. I have KM2's 31inch on an FJ, moving up to 33's and KM3's next tire change. I had BFG A/T's and noticed no change in mileage, no change in street grip even when wet, and no increase in noise. There is only one place in central Ca where you can play on the beach and it is 320 miles from me so I only did that once. (Pismo Beach) I prefer the mountains and they are only 90 miles away so that's were I play. Love M/T's.
What about Mud T and All T tyres in the wet on the black stuff ?
jarrod phillips both are ok but great, if you want a good tyre for that you’re looking at a road tyre
I have 33 inch BF Goodrich muddies and they slide like crazy as soon as the road is wet ahaha. AT's are alot more grippy. way more surface area touching the road.
Lauchie Stewart My 31in KO2’s on my tacoma are great in the rain! I had those AT duratracs and i’d be hydroplaning all the time, not the case with the new set of BFG’s
@@lauchiestewart8092 Thanks for your comment here.
I have 31 in BFG 3 and they hate wet roads to the point i think it becomes dangerus if you are not aware of it.
I wonder why this is not a big topic.
(ps love them off road! Greate tyres!!!)
I have 31 inch BF Goodies AT's on my Ford Ranger, it gives you the best of both worlds, muddies in the wet pavement are a death wish at high speeds
2017 SR hilux.
For 3 yrs I swapped between Michelin HT and BFG MT tyres. The noise level was evident every time but certainly not an issue with the MT's on. They are not 'loud', it's a mild increase and doesn't bother me at all.
Chalk and cheese off road. MT's are miles ahead.
HT are smoother on the tarmac and have better grip.
I'd be happy with full time MTs.
I don’t care what’s best my 100 series just looks good with my trail grappler muddies 👍
I run boggers on the road from track to track and I love the b52 bomber sound that turns a lot of heads.
That's the most aggressive looking all terrains I've ever seen lmfao....
you probably have no idea about BFGoodrich KO2 A/T ;)
@@Rayankady those A/Ts are a lot more aggressive than KO2s
@@Rayankady Duratracs are far more M/T than KO2s
Had near every brand of MT over the years swapped to the Falken wild peak AT2 and love them. Last a heck of a lot longer too
Can't wait for the corona virus to be done and get a nice new episode hopefully the dirty 30 will be in it
If you live somewhere where it snows I always recommend General Grabber AT3 they have a softer rubber and tread slits for snow so are fully rated for winter (snowflake/mountain symbol) as well as summer and still seem to last a very long time too. Great for a multi country overland vehicle where you can’t change tyres all the time and have to do huge highway miles various conditions and climates as well as off-road.
I'm running Nitto Trail Grapplers and love them.
Just recently saved up and bought a set of both 33" AT's for road and beach and 35" Muddies for weekend warrior runs to Glassy/ bigger trips 🤙
I went this way so I dont wear out/ have to replace my 35's for ages as my GU coil cab ute is my daily 🤠👍
Keep in mind tires have a lifespan too
The Goodyear Duratrac is not an AT though. They are an RT or rugged terrain. The Goodyear AT is the Adventure. Most people don’t recognize the new segment RT. But toyo, Nitto and Cooper all make RT tires.
4Hi Alberta yeah I was thinking the same they are more of a hybrid tyre for Goodyear
4x4 Camping and Adventures 100%. They’re an RT. And tire(I’m Canadian that’s how we spell it) shops that don’t recognize the new segment of the hybrid RT segment would call the duratrac a mud terrain due to its large lug gaps.
MT all the way! Currently running Toyo open country 235/85/16 and I'm very happy with them. Used to run BFG MT which were very good also, but way more expensive.
I run on my patrol BFGoodrich tires all terrains and I haven’t been bogged yet and I find going off road their bloody good 👍🍺🍺🍺🍺🇦🇺
strange for a patrol not to get stuck, Toyota's rule, i drive a Pajero and always getting assists from both thanks boys. (can't afford either)
I. Agree Ross have The same tires, I can't fault them.
But dude this is and Ad for Goodyear....
simon lee I drive a Pajero to, and only ever had to assist the bigger boys lol
Just put a set of Falken wild peak AT3's on my triton only been up teewah with them so far but I found them really good in the soft sand and excellent on the road especially in the wet.
Maybe A/T but it depends how often I'll hit the tracks :)
Great job Shaun. We recently put wrangler durotrac on my daughters Jeep Wrangler and we where surprised how well they handle on and off road even more surprised how well they handle in the wet. I’m running BFG K02 on my triton we found that they are pretty good also but they are slightly less noisy than the durotrac.
Would be good to see the difference in Kms you get between A/T and M/T. I used to run Goodyear A/T 31” (less aggressive than the ones Shauno is flogging here) on an old rodeo and got 100xxx kms. Switched to the BFG Ko2 and got similar lifetime. Would be interesting to see what I would have got with M/T. Would also want to see the difference in fuel economy. Surely M/T’s being more aggressive and heavier will affect that. Cheers for these videos legends
Yeah they should maybe do another vid comparing fuel cost. Its definatly another reason people avoid nudders.
I run BFG KM3s, havent noticed a significant deterioration after 25k kms, but havent actually measured the tread depth
@@formerlyuser123 I had a set of Km3. needed new tyres at the start of summer, so put on some wrangler AT. more than half the price saved with the wranglers compaired to the bfg muddies. i shopped around, and there was a 100 dollar difference between the most expensive, and cheapest tyre shop. I thought fuel consumption wouldve dropped... but i think its actually increased slightly. Im hoping I get more kms out of them tho.
Currently General Grabber ATX. My favorite tires were 37" Interco Super Swamper Iroks. I was in the mud lots. They wore quick and were loud as hell but I got through some deep, sticky mud in 2 wheel drive.
Acceleration, fuel economy and tread wear would be interesting to see compared. I'll stick with my bfg ko2's.
Had the KO2's on my previous truck, absolutely loved them, real grippy on road and hardly wore down (and I gave them a hard life), plenty of grip off road even better than the budget muddies I got with the truck
The goodyear duratracs wear pretty fast. They are a very soft compound to get better grip. I've ran them an a jeep and they wore down pretty fast. Good traction though.
A/T. I have the newer generation of KO2's that are winter/ice rated. I use them year round and even plow with them. They are as good in ice and snow as my last set of dedicated winter tires!
The Duratrac is not an Allterrain Tire, its more of a intermediate between MT and AT, should have tested the Goodyear AT tire which is a lot less agressive.
Also the Duratrac is not availiable in my size sincr ages :-(
The duratrac is an AT. It might be a very soft sticky AT but it stacks up with other name brand AT tires. It has a very close tread pattern and a good amount of siping for wet and winter conditions.
@@jennBourne Jen it's the most aggressive AT around. It's close to an MT without being one. The space between blocks on my Duras are huge compared to other AT's. Cheers
Excellent information video !! Only thing you missed was a test on wet bitumen !! Im tipping and have seen this is where mud tires will really fail !!
Love being the first person to click on the link! Been refreshing the page for 20 mins haha!
Tasmanian Hill Billy you need to get out more mate😂😂
Was running 32s, falken wildpeak at3s for a couple of years, pretty good tyre actually.
Have just put on 33s, Maxxis Razr Muddies, had a read a heap of good reviews on them, hoping to take them out and get dirty once we're allowed.
would be curious to see how each performed in snow
I live in Maine and 3 out of 6 months is snow so I'm wondering how the MT does in Snow
@@itsyaboimat2393 I've got Achilles Desert Hawk xmt on my Ford F-150 and they do great in the snow mad you don't even need to use the four-wheel-drive unless you get over 6in
@@itsyaboimat2393 MTs are terrible in the snow. Get an AT with 3-peak standard. Duratracs are commonly used up here for snow plows, they are my next AT as I do not like my KO2s.
This is a wonderful info. i drive with AT even when going up rural places especially on timber roads in Borneo. So far i don't have much of an issue as the new Toyota Hilux with its locker can cope easily with the condition. The only problem is when its constantly raining and roads pretty much slippery.
You don't get the noice really from muddys till the get to about 70% tread left and when testing the grip you should've tested it in the wet that's when you really lose the grip on a muddy on ashphalt when it's wet not when it's dry
Yup. Once the mud tires start to wear they really get loud.
Granted I usually offload mine once they get to about 75% traction and buy a new set.
I generally sell off my muddies before 70k, BUT I also rotate my tires every 5k and don’t have the noise or traction issues at higher mileage due to inconsistent wear.
I run 35" BFG AT2's on my 07 Ford Expedition. Most of my driving is black top or dirt roads to the trails. Have run BFG's since I had a 87 Toyota back on high school.. Great on road manners as well.
MTs wear faster, cost more and are super loud and since I ain't 4 wheeling all the time ATs are just fine for me
Also depends on what type of wheeling you do. Here in Michigan a decent AT will be good for about 95% of folks, especially if you stay out of the swimming pools...
I got MTs on my first rig, and I've had ATs on everything since.
Hybrid is best of both worlds.
This is one of the best test I've seen yet. 👍👍
I’ve a set of each, BFGs. As I do 80% on asphalt, I keep the ATs on unless I do some offroad tracks, then I do a swap if it’s going to be an all day or all weekend outing. For just a short offroad run, it’s not worth the spannering.
ATs on wet asphalt can be a lifesaver compared with muds, and likewise in the winter when there’s some packed snow, the sipes on the ATs come into their own.
I’ve always thought some sipes in the mud tyre blocks would help them on asphalt, with no detrimental effects on performance in the mud.
Good comparison video though Shauno, thanks for all the effort. 👍🏻🇷🇴🇬🇧
So if the at's were 77ish dB and the muds were 80ish dB. The mud tyres are twice as loud as the at's.
TurboXR well yes and no. 3db louder is twice the sound pressure, but that doesn’t translate to being twice as audibly loud.
79 series sound deadening is so crap, a bit of quality carpet underlay would bring the road noise down far more then the difference between the two.
The Goodyear Duratracs are among the very best and most aggressive AT tires available. In fact, I'd say they are probably better described as "Hybrid" tires rather than a true "AT". If you are experiencing differences between the Duratracs and the MT/Rs, I can't even imagine the difference between the MT/Rs and more traditional AT tires. I run the MT/Rs on my Suburban 2500 and, truth be told -- as much as I love them -- would probably be better off with the Duratracs. I just ordered a set of Cooper S/T MAXX hybrids for my Mercedes G550 and can't wait to see how they perform. Great review. Keep 'em coming!!!
I always Put on MT. It makes me feel safer and looks cooler.
won't look so cool when the extra 2m you travelled and rear ended the Police Commissioner's Missus in her Lexus I can tell you....
MTs are terrible in snow. ATs are better for snow (alot of 3-peak options) and general high-way use compared to MTs.
@@mikeykeyes easy enough to avoid.. just give more space between his vehicle and the vehicle in front and his 4x4 still will look more awesome than yours with your ATs lol. i will be putting mud tires on my baby - the look factor alone is worth the disadvantages on blacktop - as long as the drive knows the limit and doesn't drive to exceed it.. might as well have the 4x4 looking awesome!
And i put AT on my truck now..... I need to be a driver for family... I even have steps. 😂
I have the Goodyear Duratracs on my 4runner. With the amount of snow we get here in the USA, the AT tires are the clear winner, especially the Duratracs with their ice sipes and severe snow rating. MTs are borderline dangerous when on ice or packed snow, though they are a bit better off-road in deep snow. Also, I live close to the beach, and my off-road driving is 90% soft sand vs 10% mud and rocks when I'm overlanding.
MT's get noisier as they get older. less so AT's. Still love MT's
After 18K miles all my duratracs get loud in the rears (cupping on inside shoulder). rotating them, just makes them twice as loud.
Thanks for the great info. I am a weekend warrior and mostly do fire roads and some rocks once or twice a year. The falken wildpeak at3 31” on my Tacoma is great. I run a “SL” load. Mostly because we do drive it a lot on the regular roads as well
You guys didn't test the longevity of the tyres.
I run the Goodyear Duratrac AT in 33's and absolutely love them.
This is the kind of review you just can't get any where else. Having said that i run bfg k02s
tyson saunders Ronny Dahl has done the same video and many more already
@@DanielMacLean08 your assuming im talking about 4wd action and not youtube.... im sure you watched Rhonda on you tube.
I run the Milestar Pategonia's 35 inch MT and love them, reasonably quiet for a mud terrain tire and awesome offroad. The wear is very even and these tires are looking like they will last about 60k miles. Best tires I have ever ran.
Shauno, you make a really good point about choosing tyres. Essentially, "horses for courses". If muddies are better off-road than AT's at 20PSI, I'd be curious to know, if you ran the AT's at 18PSI and the Muddies at 20PSI what the difference would be? Essentially basing your tyre pressure also on the "horses for courses" principle. I run 33" AT's and usually go to 18 in the tough stuff.
Always muddies. The end
Biggest difference in Canada is winter weather traction! The MTR stiffens right up and rides like hockey pucks, the duratracs stay nice and soft and become really great in the Ice and snow 😄
I run Wrangler m/t off road and toyo open country on bitumen. Have 2 sets of tyres and have the best of both worlds. Highway tyres can be picked up for a song as most blokes put AT/MT's on as soon as they buy the new rig and take the highway tyres off instantly.
I too use duratracs on my milder overland vehicles year around and Muddy’s on my two trail trucks because of the sidewalk strength and extra grip. Never tested them like you have side by side just went with what felt right. Glad to know I wasn’t all that out of wack!
Up here in Canada the AT's are the only choice with the winter. You can run a Duratrac all year road, asphalt to dirt to mud to snow. Best all around tire.
I run 33inch goodyear kevlar mt's and love them. Never let me down off road and on road. Even in wet conditions I find they handle well on road
I slapped a Mud Tyre on the rear and a All Terrain tyre on the front on my 4x2 Ford Ranger XLT 2014 Model, 2.2L and went on an off road action. It performs very well and now its called 4x2.5 and is now much more capable even if I basically run on 1 wheel sometimes without the diff locker. The Mud Tyre on the rear for my 4x2 is the best decision I made on my 4x2 wheels so far. I can't afford to buy 4x4 in a mint condition so I decided to get a cheaper used 4x2. They don't look bad because I choose the tyre with similarity in sidewall design even if they are different brands. So you won't notice that they are different tyres unless you go a little closer.
I run 31x10.5 inch BFG AT here in the States because they are great for my 88 fj62 all around but really stand out in the snow. From -20F on roads like ice hockey rinks (just don't touch your brakes) to the muddy slushy spring mess they always get me and mine home safe. They are just as good as the highest rated snow only tires for my cruiser, probably because it weighs a fair bit. That's a winner. I do have a 2.5inch Dobinson lift and bigger drilled ebc greenstuff brakes, but have never needed to go bigger/taller, and as far as mud/mud tires goes..... When in doubt, use the skinny pedal on the right and don't be shy... Or go back and get the wifeys Subaru! It begs me to sometimes. She loves pulling up next to $50K pavement pounder jeepers in a freshly painted mud car and asking them why their 4x4 doesn't have any dirt on it. Good fun. She runs AT tires too, not regular all season tires. Almost gets everywhere I can unless clearance issues. When winter snow hits I slap on the Blizzak snow tires. Nothing finer, cept me wife maybe! Cheers. Good vid Shauno!