He asks Vi if she lost someone in the attack when they first met. I can only imagine that he lost someone himself, took to the streets after, and left his duties as an enforcer. We know we will see more of him so I hope we hear his name spoken and he says something about himself in the next act.
Taking my own wild guess and say he's a airship sailor, based on the attire, and now, if The Hexgates were shutdown after the Jinx' terrorist attack, makes him struck and without a job/purpose and drinking his boredom away since he's indirected affected by the confrontation. He could also be a normal sailor, just find his incentive to join the Enforcers to be bigger if he's indirectly affected by the whole thing. I also find it strange as hell when he asks her "Did you lose someone in the attack?" on their first meaning. 1. He's a drunk hobo in Piltover, which is already strange. 2. She's a angry Zaunite, in the middle of the street, Of Piltover. 3. Only The Council got affected by JInx' attack, so I doubt you stumble over someone related to The Council randomly and start bingedrinking with them. Might be overthinking it, but he's mere presence is just odd in the society of Piltover.
Also did a search of his name just for fun; Origin of loris First recorded in 1765-75; from New Latin; the genus name, from Dutch loeris “simpleton,” equivalent to loer “stupid person” (from French lourd “heavy, clumsy,” from Latin lūridus ) + -is; lurid, -ish 1. Kinda fits his personality.
The last point!!! That's what I thought too. I'd also like to mention that the camera cut to him paying attention when maddie was talking about vi destroying silco's shimmer factory. I suppose that might be of relevance further down the season.
I think it is due to the fact that he either saw her leaving the Kiramann house OR that a person getting that drunk on the streets of Piltover is a rare event. So, he assumed that Vi was somehow connected to one of the councilors - maybe a relative, employee or servant that was close to Cassandra Kiramann, Irius Bolbok or the third guy. They are very important people, after all, so it is easy to assume that many would be mourning
Just remember that we don't know which attack he's referring to. It could be the attack on the town square building that killed six Enforcers, the attack on the bridge that killed Marcus (alongside many other Enforcers), or the attack on the council chamber (all of which are Jinx's fault lol). It's also a twist of dramatic irony that he's speaking to the sister of the person who's responsible for all three attacks. The funny thing is that Vi could have answered "Yes" to his question and been correct, since -- even though Jinx is still alive -- Vi technically loses the person of Powder wherever the persona of Jinx engages in terroristic activity. And considering that Vi takes him up on his offer of alcohol, she was indeed answering: "Yes, I did lose someone in the attack," since _his_ response to presumably losing someone in the attack was to consume alcohol as well. What I like about Arcane is its consideration of continuity and consequences. People don't just move on, and large-scale events like the ones mentioned aren't just cool action set-pieces; they have long-lasting consequences on those they affect.
I think he's going to be a positive foil for Vi. There's a common theme of Vi lacking any appreciation for defense, while Loris is characterized by his shield. Even his few scenes have a "brute force" flavor of defense. I think he's going to be what saves Vi from her "pit fighter" phase. If so, we'll probably get some backstory then.
oh my god yeah. makes me think about the vi/sevika fight in s1 where vi sees vander encouraging her. i'm really excited for how they use his role in the next acts
I think looking back on this Loris is actually originally from the undercity or had connections there prior to knowing Vi, since he so easily transitioned to Zaun after act 1. He might be related to Vander (not likely though, but maybe...) but I'm more curious bc they gave Loris a lot of screen time for what all he actually did. The reveal of Loris felt deliberate and mysterious for seemingly no reason, and he got multiple voiced lines, which is odd for just a fill-in character like the fish looking one. And then making a note of him both pretending to sleep and pretending to be completely drunk during Vi's introduction to Maddie, as well as his turning from Cait in episode 3, not to mention his off comment on losing someone in the attack. I feel like there's more to this character than we realize, even if only a small otherwise unremarkable detail that will come into play later, like he is secretly the some of one of the councilors or he knew Powder during Vi's time in prison, SOMETHING! That's a lot of small detail to give just a throwaway character.
Okay, so you're clearly one of the people who came to Arcane without playing league, Welcome! So for starters. Yes Vander is still alive and kicking! My best boy whom I have 700k mastery points is a Chimera named Warwick. Just think big ole werewolf. His original lore was that Warwick was a Zaunite Sheriff who policed the underground but made a deal with singed and got experimented on, when the experiment failed Singed threw his corpse away into the garbage basically and left him to rot, but instead Warwick then came to life with no memory of who he was or what's going on and just follows the blood trails since blood means violence and violence means bad people. He keeps a moral code despite being reduced down to an animal. So why this is important! We know Vander was captured and didn't escape and we saw him hanging from chains but also if you go back to the breakout you can hear a noise that I as a Warwick main. Could recognize anywhere the distinct howl Warwick does when he uses his defensive ability. That was our first clue as to what happened and they kinda just spilled it all by showing Warwick hanging in chains in singed's lab there at the end of current season 2. Some fun details are that the Spike is missing from the chemtank still which the spike drills into Warwick's back and causes him a lot of pain but that's also his defensive ability in league which is interesting and I wonder what they will do with him. I fear that we won't get to see Warwick in action and only him coming to life which is fair enough but if you go back and watch his release trailer which is here on UA-cam you can see how terrifying he is.
@vangeles11 I have now. I think it's a lovely take on the story and I suspect that the face of Vander will be damaged heavily by the explosion and assumed dead and after a few days in a trash heap he regenerates and the old lore of Warwick makes an appearance.
Either he had scenes/lines cut and was messily put together in the season and just dips or he is actually important and shows up again. Both are weird.
agreed I got a feeling he was suppose to be important character but since Netflix, his scene was cut and they cut his scene out and just kill him off, cause it was so weird that he was alway there for Vi even when she was drunk, like he watch her close like a hawk, I think he was a spy from someone else or he was super close to their father, it be so good if that was his brother and he their uncle and he was suppose to be important in season 3 but since Netflix cancel it they decide to remove his scene and just kill him off
my guess is enforcers arent actually treated well or all given accomodations but he just wants to help and be in a place of power where he can, but it does seem like he'll soon resign or something because he doesn't like the way things are going
I think he is simply just a writing tool to show parallels to the childhood relationships the characters had and public opinion of Caitlyn's decent with her becoming more like jinx. I think he will not have much of a role in the future episodes
I feel like Loris was originally supposed to be a traitor. All the signs are there. Him pretending to be a drunk to listen in on the people of Piltover, him listening in on Vi and Maddie, him keeping an eye on Vi in Zaun like Maddie was with Caitlyn in Piltover, etc. But for some reason at the 11th hour they scrapped the idea, but had all his scenes animated already.
Vander is all but confirmed to be coming back, the amount of foreshadowing thats been done at this point makes it near certain. But loris is obviously not a giant unkillable murder dog so clearly hes not vander lol. Best read up on warwicks lore if you want to see the hints, or just watch all the singed after credits scenes from both seasons back to back and it becomes obvious.
That character is the only aspect of Season 2 I don't like. All we know is that he exists, and that's about it. We hardly got any info about him or motivation on why he's doing what he does.
so does the ginger and fish dude in caitlin team, but he seems to at least have something going on, he reacted when they talked about silco while praising vi, but pretend to sleep, he also noticed when caitlin's hand was tweaking (probably because what happened with vi) , he left as if he knew what's ambessa's ambition, i assumed we'll know when vi is going trough the fight pit arc
Narratively he's definitely meant to be a Vander-like figure to Vi, but I doubt there is any actual relation. My own crazy theory is that he'll eventually become Urgot. Maybe he'll get really badly injured and stranded in Zaun in one of the last episodes, due to other enforcer's incompetence. I know it doesn't matches with Urgot's old lore at all, but Arcane has already change a bunch of champions' origins. But we also don't know anything about Loris, so maybe he was a Noxian like original Urgot is? Just a crazy theory either way, we literally don't know anything about him for now.
I don't see that being the case he would have to be around twenty years younger than her. Also He has a much lighter skintone. None of that is conclusive evidence he is not her son. But if hedid know her I see him being much more of a collegue or protege than a son
Loris is with Vi in the undercity during her Goth Vi stage. Go watch he Nothing To Lose trailer. Also he's not Vander. Vander has been rumored to be Warrick
i personally think that vander IS gonna be warwick and theyre going to make it work. i think it could just be like, his body, so its not really him but the sisters have to confront him all the same. not sure if that would still be disappointing to you, but i think it'd be satisfying and tie into jinx's 'nothing ever stays dead' and hallucinations. great video!
spoiler for season 2 therory : i think the guy singed is making, and using his heart, i belive its warwick, which is believed to be vander. so i he will for sure be coming back.
Yes, This! I think the heart is Vander's and Singed is making Warwick, but more so I think Loris and Vi will wind up fighting Warwick. I predict Fighting Vi, with Loris who resembles Vander will have a pivotal emotional effect on Warwick.
I went through a third of the video, but the mic quality together with the amount of pauses made me close it. There's an AI that cuts "quiet" moments from a video, you might wanna consider it at the start of your channel. Also 16:9 or some other popular ratio would make watching a bit better
I got a strong theory that he their uncle, or cousin, cause he look exactly like their father, even at one scene when VI got injury and got up she thought she saw their father but it was Loris that their father either didn't tell them about his brother or he did and I think what happened was since Netflix, cancel the show, they decide just cut all his scene and line out and kill him off cause I have no doubt Arcan wasn't suppose to end but had to that I bet money we was going learn who Loris it, this scene but his storyline was to long they cut it out, or he was going be very important in season 3 and when Vi saw his dead body, she was crying like she lost their dad again
Arcane was always supposed to have 2 seasons, the whole Riot-Runeterra shows are rumored to have 5 total seasons, so 3 seasons allegedly left for other areas of the lore.
Vander is Warwick, not some human. Even if he is not, we saw Vanders body in singeds lab. It makes no sense for him to be a long term enforcer, while simultaneously be a body in the lab of a mad scientist. Honestly, research more before you do your video. I can easily tell that you have no idea what you're talking about and I'm not even a hardcore fan.
I don't think so. In Blitz's lore, "Blitzcrank is an enormous, near-indestructible automaton from Zaun, originally built to dispose of hazardous waste." The shield made me think it was a nod to Braum.
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My video on Caitlyn (pretty sure it got shadowbanned for copyright reasons):
ua-cam.com/video/2nt9Sua_mpU/v-deo.htmlsi=8Z2Oh5yY8RQ_i2lU
Bro literally made a video about Lorris longer than lorris in the show
LMAO
@@abdurrahimoz9203 damn bro you right 😭
joined the squad and dipped, helped vi go through a break up and dipped.
that man was busy, i respect it.
If you look closely and pay attention, you'll see that they forgot to give him any fucking character whatsoever
He asks Vi if she lost someone in the attack when they first met. I can only imagine that he lost someone himself, took to the streets after, and left his duties as an enforcer.
We know we will see more of him so I hope we hear his name spoken and he says something about himself in the next act.
Taking my own wild guess and say he's a airship sailor, based on the attire, and now, if The Hexgates were shutdown after the Jinx' terrorist attack, makes him struck and without a job/purpose and drinking his boredom away since he's indirected affected by the confrontation. He could also be a normal sailor, just find his incentive to join the Enforcers to be bigger if he's indirectly affected by the whole thing.
I also find it strange as hell when he asks her "Did you lose someone in the attack?" on their first meaning.
1. He's a drunk hobo in Piltover, which is already strange.
2. She's a angry Zaunite, in the middle of the street, Of Piltover.
3. Only The Council got affected by JInx' attack, so I doubt you stumble over someone related to The Council randomly and start bingedrinking with them.
Might be overthinking it, but he's mere presence is just odd in the society of Piltover.
Also did a search of his name just for fun;
Origin of loris
First recorded in 1765-75; from New Latin; the genus name, from Dutch loeris “simpleton,” equivalent to loer “stupid person” (from French lourd “heavy, clumsy,” from Latin lūridus ) + -is; lurid, -ish 1.
Kinda fits his personality.
The last point!!! That's what I thought too. I'd also like to mention that the camera cut to him paying attention when maddie was talking about vi destroying silco's shimmer factory. I suppose that might be of relevance further down the season.
@@poisrayand it cut to his concerned face at Kait's Commander surprise, and made sure we saw him backing away in disappointment
I think it is due to the fact that he either saw her leaving the Kiramann house OR that a person getting that drunk on the streets of Piltover is a rare event. So, he assumed that Vi was somehow connected to one of the councilors - maybe a relative, employee or servant that was close to Cassandra Kiramann, Irius Bolbok or the third guy. They are very important people, after all, so it is easy to assume that many would be mourning
Just remember that we don't know which attack he's referring to. It could be the attack on the town square building that killed six Enforcers, the attack on the bridge that killed Marcus (alongside many other Enforcers), or the attack on the council chamber (all of which are Jinx's fault lol).
It's also a twist of dramatic irony that he's speaking to the sister of the person who's responsible for all three attacks. The funny thing is that Vi could have answered "Yes" to his question and been correct, since -- even though Jinx is still alive -- Vi technically loses the person of Powder wherever the persona of Jinx engages in terroristic activity.
And considering that Vi takes him up on his offer of alcohol, she was indeed answering: "Yes, I did lose someone in the attack," since _his_ response to presumably losing someone in the attack was to consume alcohol as well.
What I like about Arcane is its consideration of continuity and consequences. People don't just move on, and large-scale events like the ones mentioned aren't just cool action set-pieces; they have long-lasting consequences on those they affect.
this guy was so chill i hope he comes back and befriends vi again
this aged well :))
I think he's going to be a positive foil for Vi. There's a common theme of Vi lacking any appreciation for defense, while Loris is characterized by his shield. Even his few scenes have a "brute force" flavor of defense.
I think he's going to be what saves Vi from her "pit fighter" phase. If so, we'll probably get some backstory then.
Would make sense since you can see Loris watching Vi fighting in a trailer
@Zestellia oh, yea, i guess that would make a lot of sense lol. I didn't watch the trailers, so I guess I'm late to the party.
oh my god yeah. makes me think about the vi/sevika fight in s1 where vi sees vander encouraging her. i'm really excited for how they use his role in the next acts
Love this thought
"Who is Loris"
"Filler"
My theory is that he will go north, become bold, stop to wear a shirt, find a magical door and going around helping people.
i was thinking he was like braum as well lol
The Christmas Arc
i was thinking he will get a skin @@OwlBeef
MY SHIELD IS MY SWORD!
I wish that was the case
I think that he will help Vi but he will end up dying :,(. Looks like a good hearted guy
@@IvanGarcia-ft2hr it might be an Eddie situation
I think looking back on this Loris is actually originally from the undercity or had connections there prior to knowing Vi, since he so easily transitioned to Zaun after act 1. He might be related to Vander (not likely though, but maybe...) but I'm more curious bc they gave Loris a lot of screen time for what all he actually did. The reveal of Loris felt deliberate and mysterious for seemingly no reason, and he got multiple voiced lines, which is odd for just a fill-in character like the fish looking one. And then making a note of him both pretending to sleep and pretending to be completely drunk during Vi's introduction to Maddie, as well as his turning from Cait in episode 3, not to mention his off comment on losing someone in the attack. I feel like there's more to this character than we realize, even if only a small otherwise unremarkable detail that will come into play later, like he is secretly the some of one of the councilors or he knew Powder during Vi's time in prison, SOMETHING! That's a lot of small detail to give just a throwaway character.
My favorite drinking buddy!
Okay, so you're clearly one of the people who came to Arcane without playing league, Welcome!
So for starters. Yes Vander is still alive and kicking! My best boy whom I have 700k mastery points is a Chimera named Warwick. Just think big ole werewolf. His original lore was that Warwick was a Zaunite Sheriff who policed the underground but made a deal with singed and got experimented on, when the experiment failed Singed threw his corpse away into the garbage basically and left him to rot, but instead Warwick then came to life with no memory of who he was or what's going on and just follows the blood trails since blood means violence and violence means bad people. He keeps a moral code despite being reduced down to an animal.
So why this is important! We know Vander was captured and didn't escape and we saw him hanging from chains but also if you go back to the breakout you can hear a noise that I as a Warwick main. Could recognize anywhere the distinct howl Warwick does when he uses his defensive ability. That was our first clue as to what happened and they kinda just spilled it all by showing Warwick hanging in chains in singed's lab there at the end of current season 2.
Some fun details are that the Spike is missing from the chemtank still which the spike drills into Warwick's back and causes him a lot of pain but that's also his defensive ability in league which is interesting and I wonder what they will do with him. I fear that we won't get to see Warwick in action and only him coming to life which is fair enough but if you go back and watch his release trailer which is here on UA-cam you can see how terrifying he is.
curious to know if you watched the latest act 2 yet?
@vangeles11 I have now. I think it's a lovely take on the story and I suspect that the face of Vander will be damaged heavily by the explosion and assumed dead and after a few days in a trash heap he regenerates and the old lore of Warwick makes an appearance.
My theory hes vanders brother
Either he had scenes/lines cut and was messily put together in the season and just dips or he is actually important and shows up again. Both are weird.
agreed I got a feeling he was suppose to be important character but since Netflix, his scene was cut and they cut his scene out and just kill him off, cause it was so weird that he was alway there for Vi even when she was drunk, like he watch her close like a hawk, I think he was a spy from someone else or he was super close to their father, it be so good if that was his brother and he their uncle and he was suppose to be important in season 3 but since Netflix cancel it they decide to remove his scene and just kill him off
Things like this made me think that one more season would flesh out the story and characters better
underrated but you should get a better mic lmao
Yeah I’m never buying the cheapest option again
that is clearly Logan Howlett.
my guess is enforcers arent actually treated well or all given accomodations but he just wants to help and be in a place of power where he can, but it does seem like he'll soon resign or something because he doesn't like the way things are going
I thought for a sec he was Gangplank with his outfit and build. When I saw his face, I took a turn and thought "Xander, brother of Vander". 😅
He has a name?
I think he is simply just a writing tool to show parallels to the childhood relationships the characters had and public opinion of Caitlyn's decent with her becoming more like jinx. I think he will not have much of a role in the future episodes
Peanut man
I guess he was just red herring character so we could think he was someone related to vander till vander revealing ep .and thats it .
I feel like Loris was originally supposed to be a traitor. All the signs are there. Him pretending to be a drunk to listen in on the people of Piltover, him listening in on Vi and Maddie, him keeping an eye on Vi in Zaun like Maddie was with Caitlyn in Piltover, etc. But for some reason at the 11th hour they scrapped the idea, but had all his scenes animated already.
Vander is all but confirmed to be coming back, the amount of foreshadowing thats been done at this point makes it near certain. But loris is obviously not a giant unkillable murder dog so clearly hes not vander lol. Best read up on warwicks lore if you want to see the hints, or just watch all the singed after credits scenes from both seasons back to back and it becomes obvious.
He looks like from Bilgewater, probably will tell a story of Bilgewater to setup the world for it before he dies in climax episode.
@@ismailbaisa that’d actually be pretty cool!
Spoilers:
It's heavily hinted in the game and the show that Vander is now Warwick
His name is Loris? Like... the small slow cute big-eyed primate? Wow XD
@@cassiopeiasfire6457 i mentioned that in the video.
Great video! He is my new favorite character and I would die for him.
@@thetylor thank you !! Him and maddie are the moral heart this season
That's absurd!... everyone knows Vander will become Teemo
That character is the only aspect of Season 2 I don't like. All we know is that he exists, and that's about it.
We hardly got any info about him or motivation on why he's doing what he does.
@@Lexyvil yeah it instantly made me scratch my head too
@@BadMike0I just hope there is some meaning behind his introduction in Act 2 or 3.
so does the ginger and fish dude in caitlin team, but he seems to at least have something going on, he reacted when they talked about silco while praising vi, but pretend to sleep, he also noticed when caitlin's hand was tweaking (probably because what happened with vi) , he left as if he knew what's ambessa's ambition, i assumed we'll know when vi is going trough the fight pit arc
My Theorie.. he will become Mundo.
Rip bro
Narratively he's definitely meant to be a Vander-like figure to Vi, but I doubt there is any actual relation.
My own crazy theory is that he'll eventually become Urgot. Maybe he'll get really badly injured and stranded in Zaun in one of the last episodes, due to other enforcer's incompetence.
I know it doesn't matches with Urgot's old lore at all, but Arcane has already change a bunch of champions' origins. But we also don't know anything about Loris, so maybe he was a Noxian like original Urgot is? Just a crazy theory either way, we literally don't know anything about him for now.
my theory is that he's Grayson's son
I don't see that being the case he would have to be around twenty years younger than her. Also He has a much lighter skintone. None of that is conclusive evidence he is not her son. But if hedid know her I see him being much more of a collegue or protege than a son
@@TomTriyingtothinkcould potentially be a brother or husband idk
Dead. That's who he is.
Loris is with Vi in the undercity during her Goth Vi stage. Go watch he Nothing To Lose trailer. Also he's not Vander. Vander has been rumored to be Warrick
Smash
@@poisray answering the real question
Man Vander is Warwick, hes gonna come back one way or another
source? sounds like your making stuff up. links would help.
@@Inverted10H This has been hinted for a couple of years now
@@Inverted10H just look at the trailers
Not sure why my other post was deleted when it contain UA-cam link. How can you not link to UA-cam from UA-cam?
Vi fights Warwick n he leaves I think
He's Gangplank lol
An excuse to make an Arcane/Piltovan/Zaunite Braum skin probably
F shield bro
i personally think that vander IS gonna be warwick and theyre going to make it work. i think it could just be like, his body, so its not really him but the sisters have to confront him all the same. not sure if that would still be disappointing to you, but i think it'd be satisfying and tie into jinx's 'nothing ever stays dead' and hallucinations. great video!
spoiler for season 2 therory :
i think the guy singed is making, and using his heart, i belive its warwick, which is believed to be vander. so i he will for sure be coming back.
Yes, This! I think the heart is Vander's and Singed is making Warwick, but more so I think Loris and Vi will wind up fighting Warwick. I predict Fighting Vi, with Loris who resembles Vander will have a pivotal emotional effect on Warwick.
probably he is just a black rose spy
Thanks for this, definitely don't think he's Vander, probably not related either
@@pjh74 hopefully not related to
I think Vander becomes Warwick
He's I'm Not Vander
I went through a third of the video, but the mic quality together with the amount of pauses made me close it. There's an AI that cuts "quiet" moments from a video, you might wanna consider it at the start of your channel. Also 16:9 or some other popular ratio would make watching a bit better
Thanks for the feedback
Answer: A meaningless plot device.
Like almost every character in Season 2.
🥲
Yeah no
schizoposting
I got a strong theory that he their uncle, or cousin, cause he look exactly like their father, even at one scene when VI got injury and got up she thought she saw their father but it was Loris that their father either didn't tell them about his brother or he did and I think what happened was since Netflix, cancel the show, they decide just cut all his scene and line out and kill him off cause I have no doubt Arcan wasn't suppose to end but had to that I bet money we was going learn who Loris it, this scene but his storyline was to long they cut it out, or he was going be very important in season 3 and when Vi saw his dead body, she was crying like she lost their dad again
Arcane was always supposed to have 2 seasons, the whole Riot-Runeterra shows are rumored to have 5 total seasons, so 3 seasons allegedly left for other areas of the lore.
no buddy from day one even before the first season was done they already came out and said there would only be two seasons
seriously 11 minutes for this char? :D
No one else was speaking about him and I was like I need to scream from the rooftops with my terrible mic
Calling it. If he comes back super important in act 3 you all owe me $10000
Whose gonna tell him?
@BlueDiasDB 😂😂 he just fucking died bruh
Vander is Warwick, not some human. Even if he is not, we saw Vanders body in singeds lab. It makes no sense for him to be a long term enforcer, while simultaneously be a body in the lab of a mad scientist.
Honestly, research more before you do your video. I can easily tell that you have no idea what you're talking about and I'm not even a hardcore fan.
His name is Loris, not Lori, bro. Redo this video, eh?
@@summernaleDunningKruger I mentioned that in the video.
Watch the video, eh?
chill
He is Blitzkranc
I don't think so. In Blitz's lore, "Blitzcrank is an enormous, near-indestructible automaton from Zaun, originally built to dispose of hazardous waste."
The shield made me think it was a nod to Braum.
LOL
real