It's good that we sometimes agree lol. This is my favourite sequel. It features in my top 20 movies of all time, (the original is my second favourite movie of all time). I know some criticisms can be made of the mask especially the scene in the school, but to me that's not a big thing. I love everything about this, the setting, the script, the acting, the kills. I think in particular Donald Pleasence, Danielle Harris and Ellie Cornell do an amazing job.
To me, H4 is the BEST Halloween Sequel, One of the BEST Horror Films, Underrated MASTERPIECE that some people call it an "Inferior version of John Carpenter's Halloween 1978".
I'm glad that opening scene was never in there, it would've been more absurd than the Resurrection retcon. Only thing you have to ask is this: Do you want Michael back, do you want Loomis back....ok then, he's got a few burns and, yeah, don't think about it beyond that cuz there is no logical way to explain it and trying to just draws more attention to it.
You pretty much named every gripe i have with this movie lol, meaning like every question I ask myself every time I watch it. The state trooper looks at the back of the truck after they start driving away from him like how did he not see him lol. and the ambulance scene in the beginning always confused me too
Danielle Harris revealed in 25 Years of Terror, when her character runs through the neighborhood screaming for help someone legitimately called the cops, "I was banging on doors, yelling for someone to help me, help me, after I got lost trick or treating or something. So, 4 o'clock in the morning, they're hearing a little screaming up the streets, and someone called the cops. The cops came. Then the story ended up in The Inquirer that I was almost kidnapped off of the set." Just so Danielle Harris wouldn't be scared, George P. Wilbur would often lift up his mask between takes to remind her that they were just making a movie and that he was not really going to hurt her. The girl Lindsey who drove Rachel and Jamie to the discount mart was going to be revealed as Lindsey Wallace from Halloween (1978) and have a larger part in the film as Rachel's friend and helping her babysit Jamie, but that was cut for budget reasons. The third boy hanging out with Brady and Wade in the drug store was meant to be Tommy Doyle from the original film. Danielle Harris sold the clown costume to a fan Dwight H. Little did extensive research on the history of Halloween and many of its harvest images were put in the creepy opening sequence. Jamie's name in the original script was Brittan "Britti" Lloyd but was changed in homage to Jamie Lee Curtis. Series creator John Carpenter wrote a treatment for this film that had a more ghostly psychological approach to the Michael Myers mythos. It concerned the town of Haddonfield and what effect the events of the first two films had on its citizens. This concept was later rejected by the producers in favor of the typical slasher fare, at which point Carpenter left out of the film, making this the first in the series to have no participation from him. The mask on the movie poster looks more like the one used in the first two Halloween films than the one in Halloween 4. (Because it is from a still from the second movie) During production of the rooftop chase, Ellie Cornell was injured by a protruding nail as she slid down the roof. After a quick trip to the local hospital she finished the scene with her bandages in place. According to Danielle Harris, "It didn't even faze her." Leaves had to be imported and squash was painted to look like pumpkins. After finishing the film, Danielle Harris kept the clown costume and wore it trick or treating, according to Joe Bob Briggs on his show The Last Drive-In In the schoolhouse, Michael's mask appears, briefly, with blonde hair. This mask was the original type chosen for the film. However, it was decided to go with a design with brown hair, resulting in re-shoots. The mask with brown hair was chosen to match the style seen in the first two films in the series, with the blonde-haired mask appearing only in the schoolhouse sequence. eorge P. Wilbur wore hockey pads under the jumpsuit to give Michael Myers a much more imposing figure. This is revealed in the documentary Inside 'Halloween 5' (2000), where it is revealed that Don Shanks, who played Michael Myers in Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers (1989), was big enough that this was not required. The drugstore set was also used in Stephen King's The Stand (1994). 1988 was the first year in which all 3 of the then top horror franchises (Halloween, Friday the 13th, and A Nightmare On Elm Street) all released new films in the same year: Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers, Friday the 13th Part VII: The New Blood, and A Nightmare On Elm Street 4: The Dream Master. Additionally, the first Child's Play was also released in 1988, as were Hellbound: Hellraiser 2 and Phantasm 2, all of which would also become major horror franchises. The H4 mask has received a primarily mixed reaction from fans. Many have stated that the mask's appearance is too blank. Some have found its expression to be more clown-like than the original. The quality of the mask has also been criticized as it appears more flimsy than the others. Others have praised its emotionless "manufactured" style look, citing its similarity to cheaper store bought masks. When Dr. Loomis asks for Sheriff Brackett at the police station, the deputy says that Brackett retired in 1981. This is a reference to the year of Halloween II's release where Sheriff Brackett was last seen. Film debut of Danielle Harris. This film is the first time Michael Myers is credited with his name, as opposed to bring credited as "The Shape." Due to budgetary reasons, this was the first Halloween film to be shot in the 1.85:1 aspect ratio. Jamie Lee Curtis reportedly had no interest in reprising her role as Laurie Strode. So the fourth film's leading female character Jamie Lloyd was developed as Laurie's daughter and replacement. Laurie herself was supposedly killed in a car accident 11 months before the events of the fourth film. George P. Wilbur is the third tallest actor to play Michael Myers at 6'2½. The film states that Jamie Lloyd is 7 years old. The character is played by 11-year-old Danielle Harris. Having another character wearing a mask and costume identical (or similar) to Michael's was used in Halloween II, Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers, Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers, and Halloween Resurrection. For his role as Michael Myers, actor George P. Wilbur was often filmed in mirror reflections or off-center. The audience rarely received a full view of the character, in order to add an air of mystery to the serial killer. The film was shot during March 1988. Practical effects were used to create autumn-like scenery details, such as withered leaves. The film was intended as a direct sequel to "Halloween II" (1981), bringing back major characters from the first two films in the series. The production team decided to ignore events and characters introduced in "Halloween III: Season of the Witch" (1982). Ellie Cornell kept the jean jacket The original filming location and stand in for Haddonfield in the "Halloween" series was Pasadena, California. The production team of the fourth film decided against filming in Pasadena, because it would require an increase in production costs. The filming location for the fourth film was instead Salt Lake City, Utah. Michael doesnt acquire his trademark kitchen knife until 1hr9mins into the film, and he kills only two people with it. The Myers house was not used in this installment This was the first Halloween movie with the highest kill count with 17 people killed by Michael until it was surpassed by Halloween Kills (2021). George P. Wilbur was 47 playing the 31 year old Michael Myers. In the film, serial killer Michael Myers awakes from a coma on October 30, 1988. October 30 (the day before Halloween) is the traditional date for Mischief Night, an informal holiday devoted to jokes, pranks, vandalism and parties. The holiday has been nicknamed "Devil's Night" in Detroit, Michigan, because of its association with a series of arson cases from the 1970s to the early 1990s. The first Halloween movie in which Donald Pleasence stars without Jamie Lee Curtis. George P. Wilbur (Michael Myers) has said in an interview that his favorite kill in the movie is when he kills Kelly Meeker (Kathleen Kinmont) by pinning her to the wall with the shotgun. The scene in which Michael kills the mechanic was originally shown with Michael stabbing the mechanic in the throat with the crowbar it was ultimately cut because it was deemed too gory. Body count: 19 (including the dog) Jamie's dog Sundae is the third dog to die in the series. This is the first movie in the series that Michael Myers kills before October 31st. He murders all four people in the ambulance on the night of October 30th. Michael killing Kelly by pinning her to the wall is similar to how he kills Bob in Halloween (1978), except he pins Bob to the wall with a knife and Kelly with a shotgun. Rudy's death in a later film, Halloween: Resurrection (2002) is also similar, except he's pinned by three knives to a door. Four people in the movie die by getting stabbed: mechanic with a crowbar, Kelly impaled with a shotgun, Al and Orrin both stabbed with a knife.
How Loomis survived the Fire in Part 2: They shot a flashback to part 2, where the Explosion pushed Loomis throug the (very thin) Wall behind him. But because it looked too fake, they doesn't use it. There is one DVD from Austria (a Bootleg), where the scene is shown as deleted Scene in the Bonus Features. Besides: If you stand in the center of an Explosion, you aren't as affected, as the People around you, because the Impact goes out from your Position, like a shockwave.
@@MrHatMovieReviews that scene was never shot. It was only on the script but when filming began they didn't shot it due the director just wanting to keep things simple. There's a documentary on UA-cam where this is confirmed by the writer and director themselves
@@joelleon5738 Yep, and I agree 1000% with Little, shooting that scene would've just drawn attention to how absurd the whole thing is. I mean maybe Michael could survive but Loomis..heck no, but we want him back so whatever, I'll accept he just has a few burns, there ya go, it's explained now on with this awesome movie :)
The makeup on doctor Loomis looks different because his girlfriend pointed out that it looks like a boiled egg, and they changed it. Not because of the fired effect man, he was immediately rehired.
Hey, Hat! Why did you skip over 3? Because no Shape? 3 is awesome! I think the "Halloween" name held it back. Kathleen Kinmont ripped us off in this movie!
Also, I don't remember nudity in part 3? 🤔 Watch the movie Fraternity Vacation if you want an eyeful. Kathleen Kinmont has a scene with Barbara Crampton and they're both topless. She also shows them in Rush Week.
@@MrHatMovieReviews True. But it's not a glorious title shot. 😂 I watched the making of part 3 and Stacy said it was in her contract not to show boob. Tom said filming the sex scene was kind of difficult because he always has to make sure his hand or arm was covering her nipples.
Continuity error on the ambulance. The editor fucked up, it was supposed to be her looking out the window at nothing, then at the end of the scene the ambulance being there.
When you get away from the family storyline Halloween sucks!! Resurrection, H40, Halloween Kills and Halloween Ends. When it’s a family storyline it motivates him to kill that person.
I love the opening of this sequel. This film has more autumn vibes than the first one. Not a big fan of Rachel. I hated the drama with her, first not wanting to babysit, then getting mad at Brady. Not sure what happened to that one friend but I actually like Tina from part 5. Would be fun to hang out with her.
It's good that we sometimes agree lol. This is my favourite sequel. It features in my top 20 movies of all time, (the original is my second favourite movie of all time). I know some criticisms can be made of the mask especially the scene in the school, but to me that's not a big thing. I love everything about this, the setting, the script, the acting, the kills. I think in particular Donald Pleasence, Danielle Harris and Ellie Cornell do an amazing job.
To me, H4 is the BEST Halloween Sequel, One of the BEST Horror Films, Underrated MASTERPIECE that some people call it an "Inferior version of John Carpenter's Halloween 1978".
I'm glad that opening scene was never in there, it would've been more absurd than the Resurrection retcon. Only thing you have to ask is this: Do you want Michael back, do you want Loomis back....ok then, he's got a few burns and, yeah, don't think about it beyond that cuz there is no logical way to explain it and trying to just draws more attention to it.
I'm coming alright I coming in my pants that was so funny I spat my drink out
I really like this one not sure how the fanbase feels about It but basing off the rotten tomatoes score I think its very underrated.
You pretty much named every gripe i have with this movie lol, meaning like every question I ask myself every time I watch it. The state trooper looks at the back of the truck after they start driving away from him like how did he not see him lol. and the ambulance scene in the beginning always confused me too
Danielle Harris revealed in 25 Years of Terror, when her character runs through the neighborhood screaming for help someone legitimately called the cops, "I was banging on doors, yelling for someone to help me, help me, after I got lost trick or treating or something. So, 4 o'clock in the morning, they're hearing a little screaming up the streets, and someone called the cops. The cops came. Then the story ended up in The Inquirer that I was almost kidnapped off of the set."
Just so Danielle Harris wouldn't be scared, George P. Wilbur would often lift up his mask between takes to remind her that they were just making a movie and that he was not really going to hurt her.
The girl Lindsey who drove Rachel and Jamie to the discount mart was going to be revealed as Lindsey Wallace from Halloween (1978) and have a larger part in the film as Rachel's friend and helping her babysit Jamie, but that was cut for budget reasons. The third boy hanging out with Brady and Wade in the drug store was meant to be Tommy Doyle from the original film.
Danielle Harris sold the clown costume to a fan
Dwight H. Little did extensive research on the history of Halloween and many of its harvest images were put in the creepy opening sequence.
Jamie's name in the original script was Brittan "Britti" Lloyd but was changed in homage to Jamie Lee Curtis.
Series creator John Carpenter wrote a treatment for this film that had a more ghostly psychological approach to the Michael Myers mythos. It concerned the town of Haddonfield and what effect the events of the first two films had on its citizens. This concept was later rejected by the producers in favor of the typical slasher fare, at which point Carpenter left out of the film, making this the first in the series to have no participation from him.
The mask on the movie poster looks more like the one used in the first two Halloween films than the one in Halloween 4. (Because it is from a still from the second movie)
During production of the rooftop chase, Ellie Cornell was injured by a protruding nail as she slid down the roof. After a quick trip to the local hospital she finished the scene with her bandages in place. According to Danielle Harris, "It didn't even faze her."
Leaves had to be imported and squash was painted to look like pumpkins.
After finishing the film, Danielle Harris kept the clown costume and wore it trick or treating, according to Joe Bob Briggs on his show The Last Drive-In
In the schoolhouse, Michael's mask appears, briefly, with blonde hair. This mask was the original type chosen for the film. However, it was decided to go with a design with brown hair, resulting in re-shoots. The mask with brown hair was chosen to match the style seen in the first two films in the series, with the blonde-haired mask appearing only in the schoolhouse sequence.
eorge P. Wilbur wore hockey pads under the jumpsuit to give Michael Myers a much more imposing figure. This is revealed in the documentary Inside 'Halloween 5' (2000), where it is revealed that Don Shanks, who played Michael Myers in Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers (1989), was big enough that this was not required.
The drugstore set was also used in Stephen King's The Stand (1994).
1988 was the first year in which all 3 of the then top horror franchises (Halloween, Friday the 13th, and A Nightmare On Elm Street) all released new films in the same year: Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers, Friday the 13th Part VII: The New Blood, and A Nightmare On Elm Street 4: The Dream Master. Additionally, the first Child's Play was also released in 1988, as were Hellbound: Hellraiser 2 and Phantasm 2, all of which would also become major horror franchises.
The H4 mask has received a primarily mixed reaction from fans. Many have stated that the mask's appearance is too blank. Some have found its expression to be more clown-like than the original. The quality of the mask has also been criticized as it appears more flimsy than the others. Others have praised its emotionless "manufactured" style look, citing its similarity to cheaper store bought masks.
When Dr. Loomis asks for Sheriff Brackett at the police station, the deputy says that Brackett retired in 1981. This is a reference to the year of Halloween II's release where Sheriff Brackett was last seen.
Film debut of Danielle Harris.
This film is the first time Michael Myers is credited with his name, as opposed to bring credited as "The Shape."
Due to budgetary reasons, this was the first Halloween film to be shot in the 1.85:1 aspect ratio.
Jamie Lee Curtis reportedly had no interest in reprising her role as Laurie Strode. So the fourth film's leading female character Jamie Lloyd was developed as Laurie's daughter and replacement. Laurie herself was supposedly killed in a car accident 11 months before the events of the fourth film.
George P. Wilbur is the third tallest actor to play Michael Myers at 6'2½.
The film states that Jamie Lloyd is 7 years old. The character is played by 11-year-old Danielle Harris.
Having another character wearing a mask and costume identical (or similar) to Michael's was used in Halloween II, Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers, Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers, and Halloween Resurrection.
For his role as Michael Myers, actor George P. Wilbur was often filmed in mirror reflections or off-center. The audience rarely received a full view of the character, in order to add an air of mystery to the serial killer.
The film was shot during March 1988. Practical effects were used to create autumn-like scenery details, such as withered leaves.
The film was intended as a direct sequel to "Halloween II" (1981), bringing back major characters from the first two films in the series. The production team decided to ignore events and characters introduced in "Halloween III: Season of the Witch" (1982).
Ellie Cornell kept the jean jacket
The original filming location and stand in for Haddonfield in the "Halloween" series was Pasadena, California. The production team of the fourth film decided against filming in Pasadena, because it would require an increase in production costs. The filming location for the fourth film was instead Salt Lake City, Utah.
Michael doesnt acquire his trademark kitchen knife until 1hr9mins into the film, and he kills only two people with it.
The Myers house was not used in this installment
This was the first Halloween movie with the highest kill count with 17 people killed by Michael until it was surpassed by Halloween Kills (2021).
George P. Wilbur was 47 playing the 31 year old Michael Myers.
In the film, serial killer Michael Myers awakes from a coma on October 30, 1988. October 30 (the day before Halloween) is the traditional date for Mischief Night, an informal holiday devoted to jokes, pranks, vandalism and parties. The holiday has been nicknamed "Devil's Night" in Detroit, Michigan, because of its association with a series of arson cases from the 1970s to the early 1990s.
The first Halloween movie in which Donald Pleasence stars without Jamie Lee Curtis.
George P. Wilbur (Michael Myers) has said in an interview that his favorite kill in the movie is when he kills Kelly Meeker (Kathleen Kinmont) by pinning her to the wall with the shotgun.
The scene in which Michael kills the mechanic was originally shown with Michael stabbing the mechanic in the throat with the crowbar it was ultimately cut because it was deemed too gory.
Body count: 19 (including the dog)
Jamie's dog Sundae is the third dog to die in the series.
This is the first movie in the series that Michael Myers kills before October 31st. He murders all four people in the ambulance on the night of October 30th.
Michael killing Kelly by pinning her to the wall is similar to how he kills Bob in Halloween (1978), except he pins Bob to the wall with a knife and Kelly with a shotgun. Rudy's death in a later film, Halloween: Resurrection (2002) is also similar, except he's pinned by three knives to a door.
Four people in the movie die by getting stabbed: mechanic with a crowbar, Kelly impaled with a shotgun, Al and Orrin both stabbed with a knife.
"Oh, I'm coming alright...in my pants!" 🤣
Btw in audio commentary for this with Ellie Cornell, Danielle Harris said she celebrated her 10th birthday while filming this.
Halloween : The Curse of Kelly Meeker’s Missing Boobage 👍🙏
There's some summer resort movie you get to see them and they're quite nice.
The writer said the Lindsay character is Lindsay Wallace, and Tommy Wallace is the blond hair kid in the store with Brady that bets against Wade too.
Hospital cameras from H2 is how they would know how the mask looks like
so they showed the footage on the news? maybe
@@MrHatMovieReviews yeah very dark and blurry camera footage
Halloween 4 is my favorite franchise
How Loomis survived the Fire in Part 2:
They shot a flashback to part 2, where the Explosion pushed Loomis throug the (very thin) Wall behind him. But because it looked too fake, they doesn't use it. There is one DVD from Austria (a Bootleg), where the scene is shown as deleted Scene in the Bonus Features.
Besides: If you stand in the center of an Explosion, you aren't as affected, as the People around you, because the Impact goes out from your Position, like a shockwave.
Wish they would’ve shot and kept the scene in the movie. I’d like to see that bonus clip
@@MrHatMovieReviews that scene was never shot. It was only on the script but when filming began they didn't shot it due the director just wanting to keep things simple. There's a documentary on UA-cam where this is confirmed by the writer and director themselves
@@joelleon5738 Yep, and I agree 1000% with Little, shooting that scene would've just drawn attention to how absurd the whole thing is. I mean maybe Michael could survive but Loomis..heck no, but we want him back so whatever, I'll accept he just has a few burns, there ya go, it's explained now on with this awesome movie :)
The makeup on doctor Loomis looks different because his girlfriend pointed out that it looks like a boiled egg, and they changed it. Not because of the fired effect man, he was immediately rehired.
2 dudes played Michael Myers Stuntman Actors Tom Morga & George P. Wilbur.
My favorite Halloween movie
I like this better than I used to. I actually like 5 a little more. I am more accepting of both masks now, too.
I love this mask.
Hey, Hat! Why did you skip over 3? Because no Shape? 3 is awesome! I think the "Halloween" name held it back. Kathleen Kinmont ripped us off in this movie!
I love 3! I’ll cover it sometime soon but I’m doing the myers films leading up to Halloween Kills
Also, I don't remember nudity in part 3? 🤔 Watch the movie Fraternity Vacation if you want an eyeful. Kathleen Kinmont has a scene with Barbara Crampton and they're both topless. She also shows them in Rush Week.
You get some partial nudity in 3 from Stacy and even Tom Atkins
@@MrHatMovieReviews True. But it's not a glorious title shot. 😂 I watched the making of part 3 and Stacy said it was in her contract not to show boob. Tom said filming the sex scene was kind of difficult because he always has to make sure his hand or arm was covering her nipples.
Continuity error on the ambulance. The editor fucked up, it was supposed to be her looking out the window at nothing, then at the end of the scene the ambulance being there.
When you get away from the family storyline Halloween sucks!! Resurrection, H40, Halloween Kills and Halloween Ends. When it’s a family storyline it motivates him to kill that person.
I love the opening of this sequel. This film has more autumn vibes than the first one. Not a big fan of Rachel. I hated the drama with her, first not wanting to babysit, then getting mad at Brady. Not sure what happened to that one friend but I actually like Tina from part 5. Would be fun to hang out with her.
It's one of the better sequels but it should have never been a franchise it should have been just the 1978 classic and NO sequels
Bro you should watch Deliverance. It's a classic movie and it's on HBO Max. Then I expect a review afterwards to see if you liked it
If I ever do watch it I’ll let you know. I don’t have HBO Max though.
This would pretty much start the downfall of the series
Nah man, 4 was good! It's my second favorite in the franchise. Part 5 is the one that started the downfall
You're thinking of pt 5.
For me the downfall came when they started making sequels after Halloween 1978.