Train Simulator 2015 - German Signalling Tutorial

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  • Опубліковано 25 кві 2015
  • I present to you the PTGRail German signalling guide. I've been wanting to make this for a couple of months, and it's taken a lot of hard work to get to this point. I hope that this helps with understanding the German signalling system, and enables you to drive with it on German routes.
    Apologies for the sound quality of the narration, the mic volume seemed to go up and down a bit!
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  • @londonundergroundfan1563
    @londonundergroundfan1563 6 років тому +3

    I'm from Germany and this is so typical for our country: It's over complicated and sometimes you ask yourself where they've got those numbers from (153 Meters, 23 Seconds, etc.)... Great video, I hope I will be able to drive a scenario with the systems turned on, there is so much going on while approching a signal!

  • @PhantomUniform0
    @PhantomUniform0 7 років тому +25

    Thats why my emergency brakes came on when I passed that yellow signal

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  7 років тому +1

      I hope this video helped you out :)

    • @PhantomUniform0
      @PhantomUniform0 7 років тому +1

      And i forgot to press Page Dn Great
      Thanks man

    • @legitscoper3259
      @legitscoper3259 7 років тому +2

      PTGRail
      Attention! you've made a Fail at 9:08
      The white light has TWO meanings ! this depends on the Ne2 sign ( the white one the two Triangle tips touching )
      1. White light WITH an Ne2
      means that the signal is located in a shortened braking distance
      2. White light WITHOUT an Ne2 means that it is just a Signal Repeater
      ... Greetings from Bavaria (Germany)

  • @smoknjim
    @smoknjim 6 років тому +1

    thank you for a truly well done and clear explanation of these signals. I am relatively new to train simulator (about 3 months) and the German system has been a constant source of frustration for me. Your explanation has clarified it for me and I am finally enjoying my German routes. Job well done.

  • @contrapunctusmammalia3993
    @contrapunctusmammalia3993 8 років тому +16

    I was on a train in Germany and it kept slowing down all the time more than an average journey in the UK, now I know why.

  • @zarkogorovic682
    @zarkogorovic682 8 років тому +6

    The best signaling tutorial I ever saw! Excellent! Most important is that keeps my attention while watching and listening. And was also explained on the best possible way. Best regards!

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  8 років тому

      +Žarko Gorović Thank you, I really appreciate your comment! I hope that this tutorial has helped you out :)

  • @hawkwindflyer
    @hawkwindflyer 9 років тому

    I was so pleased to find this video after working through the game documentation. You have made it all much clearer. The video is well presented and put together. Thanks very much.

  • @GavinNerazzurri
    @GavinNerazzurri 8 років тому

    Thank you very much for the video, another in your helpful list. I tried a German scenario for the first time and was overwhelmed by signalling (TBH I expected it to be like that). It's a lot to take in but watching your video a few times, making notes and reading the informative comments people have made will make it fall into place I'm sure. Thanks again.

  • @georgealangibson1575
    @georgealangibson1575 5 років тому

    An invaluable subject for a tutorial, and clearly explained. Thanks for the time you have given us.

  • @Michaelxxx1936
    @Michaelxxx1936 Рік тому

    Super tutorial. Best one on UA-cam. Really professional job. Thank you PTG

  • @alexandrutesileanu244
    @alexandrutesileanu244 7 років тому +1

    Probably one of the best tutorials i've ever seen :) great work

  • @mavadelo
    @mavadelo 7 років тому +2

    Every time I have been away from TS and return to it the first thing I do is watch this video as a refresher course for the German routes. Excellent tutorial PTG, much thanks

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  7 років тому

      Thank you! I'm glad that you've found this video to be helpful when driving German routes :)

  • @davibradley308
    @davibradley308 5 років тому

    HI Peter many thanks for this video, i purchased several German routes and locos in the recent sale and have been making some progress with them, i find them very enjoyable. This guide is most usefull greatly improves the overall enjoyment

  • @ax2bxc
    @ax2bxc 6 років тому +16

    Video Guide
    *This comment will be edited to add all info
    4:53 - Signalling Controls
    5:47 - Trackside Signs
    7:11 - Signals
    9:27 - Departing from a station and what may happen on the signalling system when you depart
    10:06 - Restricted Monitoring
    11:11 - Restricted Signal with Speed Limit
    12:35 - Theory on approaching before red signals on PZB signalling and Demo
    21:24 - LZB signalling
    29:40 - End of LZB Zone

  • @The-Painter
    @The-Painter 6 років тому

    New to TSW and your videos really help, thanks for spending the time and effort you put into it

  • @MJETransportVideos
    @MJETransportVideos 6 років тому

    Excellent video, I have played TS for a long time but until this video I did not know how to use PZB, big thanks for this video!! I respect your work.

  • @SunnyAndonov
    @SunnyAndonov 8 років тому +2

    Great tutorial. Just what I needed. I've read the manual many times, but it's not clear enough. This tutorial cleared all the confusion! Thanks for the effort man. Much appreciated!

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  8 років тому +1

      Sunny Andonov Thank you! I agree with you about the manual - I spent ages trying to work it out but just couldn't follow it. In the end, after a lot of trial and error and more reading of the manual I worked it out and made this video. Thanks for your comment :)

  • @X-PlaneFanatic
    @X-PlaneFanatic 9 років тому

    Thanks so much for this video. I always thought the first train you used had auto-throttle, but I never knew how to make it work. Great job & again, tyvm.

  • @fringestalin6263
    @fringestalin6263 9 років тому +5

    Watched the whole video and then tried Hamburg Hanover in ICE 3. Aside from a few issues of emergency brakes due to PZB's intolerance for speeding (0.1km over), this video was 100% useful. Subscribed :)

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  9 років тому

      Fringe Stalin Awesome, I'm glad that this video helped you! Thanks for your comment :)

  • @publicmistrust
    @publicmistrust 2 роки тому

    Thank you PTG. Your signalling tutorial are very helpful 👍

  • @user-Ghost293
    @user-Ghost293 7 років тому

    Am new to train sims (TS2017) and was surprised to find myself enjoying them TBH ...
    This vid is so useful and very informative. Many thanks indeed.
    Looking forward to watching your route guides as well.
    Keep up the great work o7

  • @jannoriega9803
    @jannoriega9803 8 років тому +13

    What a great and much needed explanation! :)

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  8 років тому +4

      +Jan Bohuslav Thank you! I hope this helped :)

  • @libratyanjhon3959
    @libratyanjhon3959 7 років тому

    The best PZB tutorial. Thank you for explanation! I wish I could remember all of these.. :)

  • @espengarriott6515
    @espengarriott6515 9 років тому +1

    That was advanced, but REALLY helpful when I saw clips of the video about 4 times... Thanks!

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  9 років тому

      Espen Garriott Haha, thanks! I'm glad this video helped you out :)

  • @consaidercordo3770
    @consaidercordo3770 2 місяці тому

    Succinctly enough and super clear as well!
    Thank you very much for this perfect explanation!

  • @axelnordman3725
    @axelnordman3725 8 років тому +1

    Great video! Now I finally know more about the German signalling system. I didn't understand everything by watching the video once, but I still learned a lot. Thank you so much for the video!

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  8 років тому

      +Axel Nordman Thanks for your comment! I'm glad that you have found this video helpful :)

    • @axelnordman3725
      @axelnordman3725 8 років тому

      +PTGRail A question: I have encountered a single flashing green signal with that speed limit number above it a couple of times in a scenario with the BR 145 add-on on Hamburg-Hanover. What does it mean, and do I have to acknowledge it?

  • @tinytempahgaming8020
    @tinytempahgaming8020 7 років тому +4

    A very clear and good explanation. Also very useful Thank you for this!

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  7 років тому

      Thank you, I'm happy to hear that you found this video useful! :)

  • @fredericborloo1910
    @fredericborloo1910 6 років тому

    Excellent explanation of this aparently complex system! Thanks!

  • @guyvannifterik
    @guyvannifterik 7 років тому

    Not much difficult after watching this. Quite logic and great system is the PZD.
    Excellent tutorial!

  • @antonyriley662
    @antonyriley662 8 років тому +1

    Great video! I've been looking for a good explanation of German signals, thanks :)

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  8 років тому

      +Antony Riley Thanks! Glad you've found this video helpful :)

  • @krakixx78
    @krakixx78 2 роки тому

    UUU ARRRE MYY HERRRO after 2 years of suffering lol you deliver me This video is a honey for train driver THX U SO MUCH

  • @-Joethefish-
    @-Joethefish- 9 років тому +3

    Thank you PTG! I drive German trains very regularly and always out off PZB and Sifa (prefer DSD.) Though driving with LZB is a blast! Anyway thanks again for this amazing tutorial, many people will be enjoying the lights of PZB thanks to you! :)

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  9 років тому

      Joe Burgess Thanks for the comment. I really like driving with the PZB system now I understand it. It only took a couple of years to be able to understand it enough to make this video! :)

  • @RobBroers
    @RobBroers 7 років тому

    Thanks for this tutorial! Just what we needed!

  • @volksdude1970
    @volksdude1970 4 роки тому

    Very well explained! I'm on Xbox One and I downloaded Train Simulator World 2020 and have been playing around on the German line for a bit since it was the one it suggested I start with. I have gotten the gist of how to cold start the loco and how to drive it, but never once in any of the tutorials did it explain what the AFB lever did. Glad to know how that works!
    Also, I'll be sure to reference this when doing some of the missions and trying to use the PZB to avoid doing any excessively hard braking to slow down for low speed zones. The last thing I want to do is have my virtual passengers kiss the backs of the seat in front of them due to me not knowing to slow down ahead beforehand. lol

  • @Tastytentacle
    @Tastytentacle 9 років тому

    Thanks for this, been struggling with PZB for ages, just another couple of views and I should have it!

  • @thespeedgamer9285
    @thespeedgamer9285 9 років тому +3

    I now can drive on German routes!! Thanks a lot PTG

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  9 років тому

      Thespeedgamer Awesome, I hope this helps! :)

  • @ampericus
    @ampericus 7 років тому +1

    german person here:
    PZB means Punktförmige Zubeeinflussung which means as much as "Point-Type Train Control system"
    LZN means Linienzugbeeinflussung, which means as much as Linear-Type Train Control System.
    You're welcome.

  • @SwippyOG
    @SwippyOG 7 років тому +25

    Wouw great video. Well done. The time and effort you put in this video I really respect and appreciate!

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  7 років тому +3

      Thanks! I'm glad that you liked this video :)

  • @Nautaulis
    @Nautaulis 9 років тому +1

    Thanks so much for helping me with this, I can never figure it out now I can drive like a pro!

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  9 років тому

      NoCreativity I hope that this video helped! :)

  • @TheYellowman2000
    @TheYellowman2000 4 роки тому

    this is very helpful, thanks for the video man

  • @jeffm1971
    @jeffm1971 7 років тому +1

    Thanks for a fantastic tutorial. will probably have to watch it again as it takes me a bit of time. but I'll have some fun with the German routes today. :-)

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  7 років тому +1

      Thanks for your comment. I hope that you've had some fun on the German routes since writing this? :)

    • @jeffm1971
      @jeffm1971 6 років тому

      PTGRail only just started playing on them again recently when I purchased the mittenwaldbahn Innsbruck line in the steam sale. Had to have a look at this tutorial again and now I'm having a great time on the German routes ☺

  • @dijkwachter1
    @dijkwachter1 7 років тому +1

    Thank you very much for this tutorial.
    It was very helpful.

  • @chris-or3vy
    @chris-or3vy 8 років тому

    What an excellent video with a very clear commentary. I am at pesent buying a new computer which will be powerful enough to play TS2016 and I feel more confident that I will be able to play German scenarios with all safety systems turned on!

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  8 років тому

      Thank you. I hope that you enjoy playing TS2016 soon and that this video has helped you with understanding the German signalling and safety systems :)

  • @Moleman978
    @Moleman978 9 років тому +7

    After watching this once, I think I'll have to again once or twice so I can actually try it myself without horrible failure xD

    • @Frownysrubbishbin
      @Frownysrubbishbin 9 років тому

      U can't drive.

    • @-Joethefish-
      @-Joethefish- 9 років тому

      oi don't dis mole

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  9 років тому +2

      Moleman978 haha, practice makes perfect as they say! Thanks moleman :)

  • @ItsMeMars
    @ItsMeMars 7 років тому

    thanks for the clear video m8 :) it helped me out a lot! you really took your time for it :)

  • @ExtalGaming
    @ExtalGaming 9 років тому +1

    This really helped me, always getting caught out by German signals, will have to have a go myself and see how well it goes. Thanks.

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  9 років тому

      Extal Awesome! I hope that this has helped you understand the German signals a bit better! Let me know how it goes :)

  • @jamesjin1668
    @jamesjin1668 6 років тому +2

    Thank you so much for this video! It is very clear and detailed!

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  6 років тому

      Thanks! I hope it helps you out :)

  • @somesz83
    @somesz83 8 років тому +2

    Finally a good tutorial about PZB!

  • @Steroumel
    @Steroumel 6 років тому

    Great video! Thanks for putting the time and effort! 😀

  • @karolkostial1772
    @karolkostial1772 8 років тому +2

    Very nice thank you! I really need this and understand every single word...very clear and explained with examples, couldn`t be better!

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  8 років тому

      +Karol Kostial Thanks for your comment. I'm glad that you were able to understand what I was saying and the concepts behind the signalling system. I hope this video has helped you out? :)

    • @karolkostial1772
      @karolkostial1772 8 років тому

      +PTGRail Absolutely and finally I enjoy german tracks with all the signalling available. Thank you once again

    • @roondarmurnig338
      @roondarmurnig338 8 років тому

      +PTGRail Not to mention, there's no other tutorials for this on UA-cam that I could find.

  • @pjt1974
    @pjt1974 9 років тому +2

    Nicely done. I cannot say I understand the German signals now, but I've got a far better idea of how to approach and respond to them. Video added to favourite because, no doubt, I'll need to refer to it in the future. Many thanks for putting the time in to produce the video

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  9 років тому

      pjt1974 Awesome, I'm glad that this video has at least helped a bit! Thank you for your comment :)

  • @Preidak
    @Preidak 8 років тому +1

    Amazing tutorial! Very clear and explicit, thank you very much!

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  8 років тому

      +Preidak Thank you! I'm glad that you enjoyed this tutorial! I hope that it's helped you out? :)

    • @Preidak
      @Preidak 8 років тому

      +PTGRail Yes indeed. I finally understood how to operate all those features.

  • @TheFan630
    @TheFan630 8 років тому +1

    I already knew more or less a good ammount about it (I even speak German so I understand the text under the buttons lol), but the demonstration really helped me, thanks!

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  8 років тому

      +TheFan630 No problem, I'm happy that this video has helped you out! :)

  • @AlexEnGame
    @AlexEnGame 3 роки тому

    This video is just awesome!!

  • @Alex18800
    @Alex18800 7 років тому +1

    Great tutorial! Thanks a lot!

  • @pistonpete5817
    @pistonpete5817 7 років тому +1

    Good video!
    You might see a single yellow light, too. It indicates the same as two yellow lights though.
    There can also be a flashing green light indicating an upcoming speed limit.

    • @TheStiepen
      @TheStiepen 3 роки тому

      This is the modern Ks signalling system that has been deployed in the last 20 years (however existing tracks only get new signals as their control centers are being upgraded to new computerized ones). It replaces the Hv and Hl (see below) In the Ks system ("Kombinationssignal" - "combination signal") distant signals and main signals are no longer differentiated. A signal fulfilling the role of a main signal has a white-red-white striped sign. If it also has a yellow triangle below, pointing downward it is a so called "Mehabschnittssignal" - "multi section signal" which fulfills both roles. A signal fulfilling only the distant signal role has a "distant signal" sign, which is the white sign with black lines you can see in this video.
      Signal aspects of Ks signals are as follows:
      One green light (Ks 1): proceed and expect proceed
      One yellow light (Ks 2): proceed and expect halt
      One red light (Hp 0): halt
      Speed limits are always declared as a separate number, however if a signal is a distant signal, Ks 1 is shown and there is a speed limit pre-indicated, the green light is flashing.
      The third main signalling system in Germany is Hl but that is only to be seen in the former GDR. It's the most confusing, encoding speed limits into the signal aspects (which leads to it having 17 different signal aspects, which includes flashing lights of various colours as well as coloured bars)
      There are also the Sk system (from which Ks has been derived), but that's only used on a single track. And one or two other experimental signalling systems. Underground trains and trams in cities use completely different systems, which even vary from city to city.

  • @vaibhavthombre386
    @vaibhavthombre386 7 років тому +1

    Wow ...that was helpful . So , now i know the technical reason as to why emergency brakes used to get triggered , at some point i even thought that it must be some bug...Lol . Also , I've seen many guys say that just disable pzb , sifa and just have fun !!. Well , only problem is that things aren't that way in real . As a beginner , YES ! I do find it complex and perplexing . But then , actually learning about how it works , and then actually making it work myself , that's where the real fun lies for me !!!! :)

  • @Bloodknok
    @Bloodknok 9 років тому +1

    Most helpful and clear!

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  9 років тому

      Rob Mallows Thanks! I'm glad you found this helpful :)

  • @samthesnowgolem7450
    @samthesnowgolem7450 9 років тому +2

    Great vid helped me out a lot thanks ptgrail XD

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  9 років тому

      Samthesnowgolem Awesome, I'm glad it helped! :)

  • @mavadelo
    @mavadelo 8 років тому +3

    Perhaps NOW I will be able to run the German track without losing my sanity. Thanks for making this

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  8 років тому

      Wolfden Gaming Haha, thanks! I hope this video has helped :)

    • @combinetheelite
      @combinetheelite 27 днів тому +1

      have you been able to run the German routes now

    • @mavadelo
      @mavadelo 27 днів тому +1

      @@combinetheelite Hi man, yeah. And still playing them once in a while although I moved on by now mainly to the TSW series. But yeah, this was a massive help at the time.

    • @combinetheelite
      @combinetheelite 27 днів тому +1

      @@mavadelo I agree, this helped with train sim world as well, also nice to see your account isn't dead!

    • @mavadelo
      @mavadelo 27 днів тому +1

      @@combinetheelite Thanks. Yeah, just not really active on forums and uploads anymore. Still playing though.

  • @3greenwick3
    @3greenwick3 6 років тому

    very helpful and interesting too Thank you.

  • @edwardsmith3602
    @edwardsmith3602 9 років тому +41

    I just find the German signals too complex, even after watching this, there is so much to remember. I think the English system is better because it is alot simpler and more straight forward and makes more sense.

    • @somesz83
      @somesz83 8 років тому +1

      +Mil Pop Germans love to complicate things, belive me! Everything is in order but takes hell of a lot time and patience to realize that! :-D (I've worked for them as a musician and IT specialist in the past years. :-D)

    • @yankobzykant5579
      @yankobzykant5579 8 років тому +2

      +Mil Pop yeah, due to this I decided to play other scenarions instead of German ones.

    • @somesz83
      @somesz83 8 років тому +4

      To be honest I'm bored of TS2015's lines and scenarios. Germany, USA, UK and that's it. I'd like to see lines from any other country because these are getting boring.

    • @LupusAries
      @LupusAries 8 років тому +6

      +MilPop14 - The Orig O'bus MANAGER Sorry to say it, but it's not too complex, what it is is restrictive in comparison to the british.
      Most of these caveats and modes are there because of problems and crashes in real life.
      And it does all make sense, if you look at the whys.
      The Restrictive mode? Is there since PZB 80R and PZB 90, due to some crashes in the nineties, when drivers where stopped at a red, accelerated against it and then were stopped by the 2000hz mangets.
      But sadly they overran too much and were hit by another train.
      So that mode is there so that the train can stop in time if he has a SPAD, a bit like ATP and TPWS in one:
      If possible stop the train before the signal, if not make sure that he will stop without endangering others.
      @Somesz, well we have everything ordered and the Paper War (Papierkrieg), in other words having to fill out a form for nearly everything, but the brits...............well they have comitees for everything...........so both can be pretty annoying. ;)
      Sit through a course in British History, especially the last 50 years of the empire, and at the end of it, you will go mad with the ammount of comittees.
      Just look at all the sub-comitees and sub-sub-comitees of the Comitee for Imperial Defence in the interwar years.....there was a collapsible graph in one book that was as big as three DIN A5 pages detailing all of them.
      In total I think 30 sub-comittees, and those were just the standing ones, not the ad-hoc ones.
      Had a scottish prof that just joked: "Well, you germans do have forms for everything, what the brits do is make a comittee, then the first act is to make a sub-comittee to discuss things in detail.
      Then that sub-comittees first decision is to postpone further debate for six months, after which they'll find out that all the data they'll have is outadated, and that they should make another sub-comittee to discuss the new data!" ;) :P

    • @somesz83
      @somesz83 8 років тому

      LupusAries I've never had the "pleasure" to work with british people. Only scottish and canadian. :)

  • @10reubenl
    @10reubenl 6 років тому +1

    This helped alot! Thanks!:) I think the German signalling system, especialy the lights is overly complicated. If you look at the British light signals, they are really simple and easy to understand.

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  6 років тому

      No problem, I’m glad this video helped! It is indeed an overly complicated system, and it’s not necessarily safer either.

  • @KashouWannabe
    @KashouWannabe 4 роки тому

    Had to look this up to assist me with Zusi 3. Any actual Zusi tutorials here on YT are mostly in German, any English ones are of poor quality.
    The abridged English manual does a reasonable job at explaining the PZB system (not the LZB though) but seeing it in action is so much better.
    Now I know why the dash keeps beeping at me, I was running out of hammers to hit it with.

  • @789happyman
    @789happyman 9 років тому +1

    Peter, A very interesting video though I fear that I will to watch a few times before I really understand it. Many thanks, Roger Crick

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  9 років тому

      Roger Crick I can understand that! It is a complicated system, but once you have practiced a few times and you 'get it', it suddenly becomes a lot easier to use. It took me around two years to 'get it' lol :) I'm glad you found the video interesting :)

  • @thehunter929
    @thehunter929 8 років тому +2

    Great explanation. It's heelps me very much

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  8 років тому +1

      Thanks! I'm glad that this video has helped you a lot :)

  • @rodrigobarbosa6610
    @rodrigobarbosa6610 8 років тому +2

    Great video. Nice explanation. I'm starting to learn the German routes now, and the signalling seemed very hard to understand.

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  8 років тому

      +Rod Borza Thanks, I hope this video helps you out :)

  • @jo-anncarlin2128
    @jo-anncarlin2128 9 років тому +1

    No prob you are one off the best youtuber's ever ! and also idea 380 edinburgh-north berwick would be good

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  9 років тому

      Jo-Ann Carlin I'm planning on making the journey from Edinburgh to North Berwick in a 380 this month :) And thank you!

    • @jo-anncarlin2128
      @jo-anncarlin2128 9 років тому

      PTGRail Brilliant and maybe return journey on the Woodhead with a thompson b1 and were did you go

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  9 років тому

      Jo-Ann Carlin That might take a while to do, but I will certainly consider it :) .. I was in south Wales for work this week.

    • @jo-anncarlin2128
      @jo-anncarlin2128 9 років тому

      PTGRail Cool Maybe just Half it like Manchester to Warrington-Warrington-Liverpool

  • @nuothe11th
    @nuothe11th 9 років тому +1

    Thank you SO MUCH for creating this video! This was a sorely needed tutorial for those who play the German routes realistically. I actually intended to make a video like this since it seems every video of this type out ther is in German.
    There's a nice "cheat sheet" in the DB loco DLC manuals which shows which speeds apply when, including the restrictive states. - I keep a copy of this printed whenever I drive PZB. Very helpful.
    One TINY thing you missed - When you're under "restrictive state" AND 500hz monitoring (occurs when stopping or slowing down to 10kph or less, while under 500hz), you are now limited to 25kph (what I call "Super Restrictive Mode"), until clear of the 500hz & past the red signal. :)
    I plan on making a few "Let's Play" videos of German Routes showcasing these systems. If you don't mind, I would like to shout out to this video as a great "detailed worth-watching" reference, because this literally covers everything about PZB/LZB/AFB and the signal aspects.

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  9 років тому

      nuothe11th Thanks for your comment! When I first got Munich to Augsburg a couple of years back, I just couldn't understand the signalling system. I turned to UA-cam for help and found not one tutorial in English. So I took to really studying the manuals on German routes earlier this year and researching online as much as I could about the signalling system. As I'd only recently started this channel, I thought 'why not make a tutorial on this myself for others to watch'.. and this is the end result of that process of teaching myself :)
      I hadn't thought about that, but printing out that 'cheat sheet' may be a good idea! I will bear that in mind as I will soon be making a new German route learning video (if you are new to my channel, they are my version of 'let's play' videos - in the format of driver training videos without using the HUD) so it may well come in handy :)
      I didn't actually realise about the 25kph limit there. So say I started from a station, restrictive monitoring occurs and I don't release from monitoring - if I then pass over an activated 500hz magnet, that then means I am restricted to 25kph?
      And many thanks, feel free to shout out this video! I'm glad you liked it, and I hope it's helped a few people understand the German signals a bit better! :)

    • @nuothe11th
      @nuothe11th 9 років тому

      "if I then pass over an activated 500hz magnet, that then means I am restricted to 25kph?" Yes. But again you'd be able to see the red signal and be like Oh can't go very far anyway. That's prolly the logic behind the system.
      I might get the Epic Journeys pack just for the German route, especially if it has an LZB section.

  • @70humdinger94
    @70humdinger94 9 років тому

    Having watched some actual video of German trains, a couple of things to note:
    1) Green over yellow signals and/or yellow over yellow signals? Those usually mean a switching operation is next.
    2) The distant signals (angled ones) are not yellow over yellow, but can be red over red, meaning next actual signal is at red aspect. There can be several in a row before the actual signal. Which is the only case where a train can pass a red signal. The white light on one of those distant signals means the actual signal is the next one.
    Hope I haven't screwed you up too much with this.

  • @TheWestAnglian
    @TheWestAnglian 9 років тому +1

    you should tag along to mattpeddlestens streams, he always screws up on German routes n stuff, after watching this I understand German signalling a little more

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  9 років тому

      Kirkinstein Haha, I might do that at some point. I'm glad it's helped you understand the German signalling system a bit better :)

  • @MrPhantom1961
    @MrPhantom1961 8 років тому +1

    Thanks, that was very useful. Now to master PZB.

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  8 років тому

      +Michael B Thanks for the comment, I'm glad you found this useful :)

  • @snowiePL
    @snowiePL 7 років тому

    Great job

  • @WolfieRich1
    @WolfieRich1 7 років тому +1

    This is really helpful!

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  7 років тому

      Thanks, glad that you found this video helpful :)

  • @herrvonloo
    @herrvonloo 5 років тому

    Thank you for this excellent tutorial on the pzb system. It has made things more rewarding (and fun) for me!

  • @duskjester3027
    @duskjester3027 4 роки тому

    Thanks SO MUCH! You should make it known this is still applicable to TSW

  • @TheSkogemann
    @TheSkogemann 6 років тому

    You don't want to hold down the PZB aknowlegde when passing a distance signal, you want to press it shortly after you pass it.

  • @panzerkamphwaggenlll5247
    @panzerkamphwaggenlll5247 4 роки тому

    The best type of signaling

  • @dalewhitmore143
    @dalewhitmore143 6 років тому

    How come some signals don't get acknowledged even though I press page down button?
    Great video by the way thanks for putting in the time.
    This video deserves more likes.

  • @ScotchBitman
    @ScotchBitman 7 років тому +1

    Very well done, thank you very much :)

  • @electricitymachine6401
    @electricitymachine6401 8 років тому +1

    Interesting! Thanks for explaining the German signalling, now I can finally drive in Germany! Also, these systems are like ATP (automatic train protection) in the UK.

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  8 років тому

      +Stewie140 No problem, I'm glad that you found this video both interesting and helpful! :)

    • @electricitymachine6401
      @electricitymachine6401 8 років тому

      Indeed, very helpful. On a side note, what is your current recording software and system specifications?

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  8 років тому

      Stewie140 I use Bandicam to record and edit in Sony Vegas Pro.
      Since making this video I've got both a new microphone and new PC, so the specs I had when I recorded this were quite different to now.
      This was recorded on a PC using an AMD Phenom II X6 3.2ghz processor with 8gb RAM and a 2gb AMD Radeon HD 6970 graphics card.
      My current PC (upgraded in September) has an Intel Core i7 4790k 4ghz processor with 16gb RAM and an Nvidia GTX 980 4gb graphics card.

    • @electricitymachine6401
      @electricitymachine6401 8 років тому +1

      Nice setup! Thanks, and you are super lucky to have that setup, it's great!

  • @sts1243
    @sts1243 5 років тому

    Point of order, from a Sifa emergency brake situation you do not need to come to a full stop, you only have to tap the Sifa, roll off the power completely and then you can reapply power

  • @legitscoper3259
    @legitscoper3259 7 років тому +1

    Attention! you've made a Fail at 9:08
    The white light has TWO meanings ! this depends on the Ne2 sign ( the white one the two Triangle tips touching )
    1. White light WITH an Ne2
    means that the signal is located in a shortened braking distance
    2. White light WITHOUT an Ne2 means that it is just a Signal Repeater
    ... Greetings from Bavaria (Germany)

  • @ssingfo
    @ssingfo 8 років тому +2

    The distant Signal at 8:20 clearly means to expect stop, because this distant signal seems to be broken down. (By that I want to say that if the yellow number shows an 8 or above, you get a clear signal not a Slowdrive signal. DTG I hate you :D) 12:35 the speed limit is only till the end of the "switching zone" (all the connected switches behind that signal). In general it is a very good tutorial (for starters) of the german signal rules.

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  8 років тому

      +ssingfo Thanks for the info :)

  • @adamw1944
    @adamw1944 9 років тому +1

    Excellent video. Congratulation.

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  9 років тому

      Adam Witkowski Thank you :)

  • @TheSkogemann
    @TheSkogemann 7 років тому +1

    Epic tutorial - thank you!

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  7 років тому +1

      I hope it helped! Glad you enjoyed :)

    • @TheSkogemann
      @TheSkogemann 7 років тому

      Do you happen to know if PZB/LZB/AFP is broken in DB BR423 ?
      I can't drive that one without PZB applying emergency brakes on double yellows all the time.
      And i AM aknowledging the signals.
      Also, i cant set the AFB in this train.
      Thank you very much!

    • @TheSkogemann
      @TheSkogemann 6 років тому

      Well, i found out what was happening - you don't want to hold down the PZB aknowlegde when passing a distance signal, you want to press it shortly after you pass it.

  • @lorenzkraml826
    @lorenzkraml826 6 років тому

    Great Tutorial! I found a little mistake: you pressed the PZB end-Button in Minute 19:20. But it is not allowed to press the free-button if you can see that the next distance-signal shows a double yellow or a green-yellow aspect. Furthermore, the train drivers in austria are not allowed to press the free-button if they are in restricted monitoring and they have to wait until it returns back, which happens after a certain time.

  • @Alex151175
    @Alex151175 4 роки тому

    Thank you very much for this tutorial! Great job!
    I can't understand why DTG doesn't do something similar when we buy their games or dlc, either in video or in pdf.
    They do not provide any information about railway signaling and it is very annoying!

  • @Refiused
    @Refiused 4 роки тому +1

    All in all a good Video, but there are some crucial mistakes in it.
    PZB/LZB isn't a signaling system it is an Train Control System (like ATP or AWS)
    You have to differentiate The H/V signaling system and the Ks signaling system.
    I think I will do a Video about them in the near future. (Both in German and in English)
    The Sifa is also not a signaling System but rather a Train Control System. (Timings are Pressing 30 seconds, after which the Sifa indicator will light up. 2.5 seconds later a voice will call Sifa or a horn will start to sound. If the Sifa is then not reset by lifting the pedal and pressing again 2.5 seconds later an emergency breaking is applied.) This emergency break can be interrupted at any time by releasing the pedal and pressing it again.

  • @joetab9265
    @joetab9265 5 років тому

    I know now more about German and British signalling systems than about my own country's (USA) :p This was an amazing video and I would very much appreciate it if you created a USA Signalling Guide.
    Best regards,
    Joe.

    • @TheHairyGhost
      @TheHairyGhost 5 років тому

      Joe Transit Northeast corridor is simple but LIRR is a headache. I wish I New about signals around my area. It’s mostly freight lines around here. Amtrak station in the cities but you’ll mostly see freight consists. I live in rural Illinois.

  • @MrPhantom1961
    @MrPhantom1961 8 років тому +1

    Extremely informative guide to the German signalling system. I'm aware you made this video prior to upgrading your system. Do you recall the Anisotropic and Anti-Aliasing settings you used? I've recently upgraded my computer with an i7 6700 processor and NVidia GTX980Ti and find the game set with the highest settings a little too crisp. I also liked your Hamburg to Hannover route learning video - the colours in both these videos are stronger than I seem able to replicate. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  8 років тому

      +Michael B Thank you, I'm glad you found this informative :) I've always has the Anistropic filtering on the highest setting, but with the anti-aliasing I think it's 4x MSAA. I'm not sure what effect they would have on the colours. I think most of the other settings were set to the highest.

  • @wiawaysb
    @wiawaysb 4 роки тому

    very comprehensive guide thank you. just one thing i dont understand, the train doesnt slow down on its own, i have to pull the bug down to whatever speed i want to slow down to. is that meant to be that way or have i misunderstood it? anyone?

  • @germanoaversa8439
    @germanoaversa8439 7 років тому +1

    Great. Thank you so much.

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  7 років тому

      No problem, happy to help! :)

  • @flyingporker100
    @flyingporker100 5 років тому

    Excellent video as always. Can you do one for French signalling?

  • @t3l3phasicworksh0p
    @t3l3phasicworksh0p 9 років тому +1

    PTG, this has been an absolutely invaluable tutorial.
    I have just begun to drive German routes (incurring penalties due to complete lack of knowledge of this signalling system!)
    Please PM me on Google+ so I can donate a steam German DLC loco to you.

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  9 років тому

      t3l3phasicworksh0p Many thanks for your comment. I really hope that this tutorial helps you understand the German signalling system a bit better! I made this as no one else had done a tutorial like this in English. I was learning as I was making the video! Lol :)
      I rarely use Google Plus, but I will PM you now. Many thanks for the offer of a new DLC train :)

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  9 років тому

      t3l3phasicworksh0p I think I just worked out how to send a private message on Google Plus, so you should now have a message from me. Thanks :)

  • @FranzTech
    @FranzTech 6 років тому

    Thanks good video

  • @speculous
    @speculous 8 років тому +1

    Hello and thanks for the tutorial. I have most of the German DLC so this has helped me a bit. I also love watching your UK Route Learning videos. May I ask please, which scenario is it where the broken-down ICE is blocking your ICE? Thanks.

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  8 років тому

      +speculous Hi there. No problem at all, I'm glad this video has helped you. The broken down ICE there wasn't from an actual scenario. I just set it up for the purpose of this video :)

    • @speculous
      @speculous 8 років тому +1

      Ok very good. Thanks indeed for your reply :-)

  • @BenedictC
    @BenedictC 9 років тому +1

    I would really recommend picking up some of virtual railroads expert line locomotives like the br103 and br120 Peter as they really are something else in terms of both sound and features.

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  9 років тому

      Benedict Cooper Thanks Benedict. I will see about getting one. the BR103 appeals to me more as I remember driving that quite a lot in MSTS, so it will be great to see in higher resolution with far more features :)

    • @BenedictC
      @BenedictC 9 років тому +1

      PTGRail Yeah, make sure to get the one on their site as the one on steam is quite a bit simpler (even though the same model).

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  9 років тому

      Benedict Cooper Thanks for the tip, I will make sure to get the more advanced loco. The more advanced and immersive, the better! :)

  • @bananajoe464
    @bananajoe464 8 років тому +2

    First, I have to apologize for my bad english but I will hope, that you get the message.
    I'm a german train driver/engine operator (don't realy know how this job is translated :D) and I want to correct you about some explanations.
    You said, that the SiFa emergeny-brake works till the train stops. That isn't realy right.
    When you get the SiFA emergeny-brake, than you're able to relese the brakes just by pushing SiFa again. (In many of the DTG-Locomotives this function is incorrect)
    The "H"-sign at the platforms can be added with a length specification for the train. A little example: If you drive a 182m train and there is no 182m H-sign you have to stop at the next higher H-sign. You have to stop at this H-sign +/- 5m or otherwise you could get a punishment. So, there can be more than one H-sign at a platform.
    The distance signals with green light at the top right und yellow light at the bottom left says, that the next main signal is a green over yellow signal. And this signals can be used for the speeds from 20 km/h to 60 km/h. But like you correctly said, it has to be indicated when the speed is another than 40 km/h. Also a mistake from DTG.
    The restrictive monitoring is only when you activate the PZB and when you acknoledged a signal and runned under 20 km/h for a certain distance or you stopped after that.
    The other explanations are very acurate and absoluteley correct, perfectly investigated.
    If you have any questions about german signaling system, please feel free to contact me.
    Best regards
    Rico

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  8 років тому

      +Banana Joe Thank you for the information Rico. I understood you very well! I made this video to give as much information as I could find out on the German system though I know I didn't get it 100% accurate. Thanks for the pointers there, I will try and remember them for the future :)

  • @user-mp5ke3ih6j
    @user-mp5ke3ih6j 8 років тому +1

    Is there a guide where and what to do if you have already made an emergency brake?
    the following scenario:
    Gone magnet 1000 and did not have time to slow down to the threshold.
    emergency braking.
    after stopping, traction 0, 20% brake and press reset PZB
    Accelerates and starts flashing lamp (in the version of M - 70). more than 70 can not accelerating.
    Disabling PZB and include it again, certainly an option, but I suspect that is not correct, because Not all scenarios allow a change of state PZB.
    How to correctly operate after the emergency brake?

  • @paolopellegrino9915
    @paolopellegrino9915 7 років тому

    PTGRail i liked all of your, videos, can you do a United States Signaling Tutorial videos as well? It wuold be very helpful. Best wishes.