Hey all! The debate between whether Imagine Dragons worked on the show is one that will probably wage on until I reach the level where I can actually just interview the band. For now, take that story with a grain of salt. I wanted to attach a link to an Associated Press profile on Imagine Dragons from 2013 where they talk about Turn Off the Dark: www.yahoo.com/entertainment/rising-rock-imagine-dragons-making-moves-165157186.html and another one from an American Songwriter interview with the producer that discovered them from 2013 as well: americansongwriter.com/songwriter-u-qa-alex-da-kid-discovering-imagine-dragons-crafting-tracks-rihanna-eminem-u2/ That being said, Glenn Berger believes it's a rumor and doesn't mention the band anywhere in his book. Guess we'll have to find out in a third revisiting of this show three years down the line. Until then, I highly recommend reading the full 338 pages of turmoil in Glenn Berger's jaw-dropping book "Song of Spider-Man". Even if you don't like musicals, it's one that you're gonna have a tough time putting down: amzn.to/3MJrqGx I hope you enjoyed the video!
I thought until the order day that it was turn OF the dark, because of how little sense turn off the dark makes. or maybe I was right, and it's just a typo no one ever bothered to correct.
Seriously, why didn't they take this show straight to Las Vegas? Plenty of theater officials would have been ecstatic for the potential to earn that Lion King money, there are places with the aerial equipment already in stock, and there were no shortage of trained performers happy to play the parts.
@@wilma678 I don't think that counts. EDIT: His death happened before the contracts were even signed and it was from a stroke instead of anything that caused the accidents.
Funnily enough, this would not be the only musical starring Reeve Carney as the hero and Patrick Page as the antagonist centring around a retelling of Greek mythology although it's very clear which was better (and thankfully more successful) (on that not, the guy at 2:32 who may or may not be J Jonah Jameson has a very familiar looking outfit)
Yeah, I’ve heard in some discussions that a big problem was that after the original lead producer Adams’ death, Garfinkle was stuck in the position without enough experience to supervise or push back against Taymor well.
In 1986, Andrew Lloyd Webber was prevented from having the chandelier fall directly on the audience yet stopping inches away from them. Something tells me, if Phantom had opened in 2010 on Broadway, he would have had his wish. And eventually someone in the audience WOULD have had a chandelier fall on them 😂
So I actually saw the Spider-Man musical when my theatre class took a field trip to New York. We got to meet the actors after the show. I remember that after a song in the middle of act one the backdrops on the stage rammed into each other and got stuck and they had to stop the show to fix the technical issues. I’d say it took about 40 mins before the show resumed. In the second act the green goblin made fun of this mishap to make the audience laugh. This is the first and only time I’ve seen a malfunction in a professional production
Petition to ask Imagine Dragons to release their Spider Man musical demo. Anyone know which Spider Man songs are in Imagine Dragons album? Radioactive?
How does a stagehand just "forget" to hook an actor in safely?! I sure hope he/she was fired immediately. That's not just a little mistake; the actor could've died due to negligence.
I hear the show was constantly in a state of re-writes and re-structuring. It sounds to me like they were in a such a state of chaos, they didn't have enough redundancies in place/maybe didn't have the training to make those redundancies happen.
@@YourFaceisPretty Figured as much - from what I read, the first preview was the first time everyone ran through the whole show continuously from beginning to end
It's not hard to make these kinds of mistakes because things backstage are fast, dark, and high-pressure during stunt shows. But that's why redundancies are built in. When an actor is being hooked to a flight system, the person hooking them in always pulls back hard on the wire so the actor can physically feel that they're attached. That's a failsafe, so that both actor and crew know the moment when the attachment is made. Usually, the other end of the line is a semi-permanent connection to the fly system. It's never disconnected. But this one wasn't designed that way. It was a safety cord hooked to the floor. The stagehand got distracted by something that night and forgot to hook the floor end. So he hooked the actor in, pulled back hard...and the actor was hooked to the wire, but the other end wasn't hooked to the floor. This set-up should never have been allowed without an additional redundancy - namely, two people should have been responsible for the floor hook, one to make the connection and the other to confirm it. Yes, the stagehand made a horrible mistake, but his boss also bears responsibility for failing to insist on appropriate confirmation measures.
There are so many fascinating stories from this musical I think it'd be extremely possible to make a fantastic Tick-Tick-Boom-style movie about its production, complete with reusing the musical's score as musical numbers to emphasize the creators' states of mind. Even just a docuseries could work. It'd be legal hell to do (I don't even know if Sony or Disney would have the rights to make it) but everything about this musical sounds like a parody that a comedy show about the entertainment industry a la 30 Rock or Curb Your Enthusiasm would make up as an exaggerated joke
I’ve heard these stories but I’m still gobsmacked at the disaster this was. Truly, a miracle nobody died. That being said, the idea of Patrick Page going “idk, I think I should strangle this guy to death, what do y’all think?” is kinda hilarious. We love a man who’s committed to his craft 😂
Your delivery on this one, especially the section titles, was an absolute delight. Everything I hear about Turn Off The Dark just confirms my belief that the *really* unlikely thing isn’t that this terrible show was made, it’s that any GOOD shows get made. The Venn diagram of people with money and clout and people with talent, skill, and good ideas seems to be two separate circles 😆
I mean yes at least high budget, mainstream productions. Shit like this confirms my belief that “Hollywood” is just a bunch of cia agents playing dress up and laundering money and audience testing. No artists were involved in this circus show lmao
An interesting story that came out of this that of "The Spidey Project"; after the numerous delays and accidents, writer Justin Moran laid a challenge that he could write, produce, and mount a Spider-man musical before "Turn on The Dark" was scheduled to open a month later. Many members of the New York theater community volunteered, and by the time "TotD was scheduled to open (they pushed the opening date again) Justin Moran opened his show, proving that good storytelling didn't need overblown budgets or dangerous stunts and special effects to work. You can find the show on his UA-cam page under his name.
Which is a real shame because I think panto needs to be in more places. It's fun! It's funny! EVERYBODY loves it unless you hate fun XD So.... Anyone who's not a politician or a boring billionaire with no hobbies XD Heck I bet even the Queen enjoyed Panto, rest her soul, she had a sense of humour. Honestly I'm surprised when Americans know panto exists, nevermind what it is and how it works. I wonder if that's the case for the rest of the world too? I know Japan has some silly OTT stuff that doesn't take itself too seriously, their own form of Panto.
I am both appalled and delighted to learn that the bizarre title came from something so random and mundane. So many rich people, so llttle common sense in the room.
My mind got stuck on the phrasing of "a backstage coup lead to director Julie Temor getting fired." Like "a backstage coup" as opposed to an onstage coup where the cast and/or audience take over the show.
@@Roadent1241 you want to look for the original cast proshot of Into the Woods (Bernadette Peters as the witch). There's a scene towards the top of act 2 that involves the narrator not anticipating the outcome. Trying not to spoil it!
@@IngenuousSoprano Oh you mean a scene in the play, I thought you meant something off-script that happens or the cast yelled at the managing director for something and it was like one of their scenes XD
I low-key wrote an essay for my AP english class about this musical and how the inability of the production team to work together and find a good version of the show led to its downfall. Thanks Bono.
@@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho You know, I got a 100% and my teacher said it was the best essay she'd read from me all year- so the Spiderman musical would eventually get those rave reviews... it just took a decade and a different form.
YES!!! Always looking for more SP:TOTD content. As someone who’s well aware of the flaws, this show will literally always be my favorite musical. So happy to see more content!
I would say this is my new favorite video of yours… but the “history” of Rogers: The Musical just can’t be beat. Maybe a video on what was on Broadway instead of Spidey in the MCU during that time period…?
day ??? of asking you to cover the raggedy ann musical!!! so fascinating (and also a lot of crazy inside knowledge, everything from unbelievable safety violations to insane drama... we've got it all!)
I don't understand how you can just forget to attach a harness to the cable. When I was the stage manger for shows I put reminders in the cue sheet and always double checked air and stuff even if other people said they did it and that isn't going to hurt anyone if something runs out of air
Woah bro, starts with a clip of Dance of the Vampire's! I wonder if you'll ever do a... I don't know... do a video on it? That would be a gigachad move if you did
I'm still disappointed because this all feels like a huge missed opportunity. Imagine if they started out the play with this bizarre period piece and confused audiences then it was announced that the play was starring "Mary Jane Watson" then we heard someone in the audience came running towards the stage and was escorted by security saying "MJ! It's me, Peter! I'm sorry I'm late!" Then it transitions to Peter's story.
Still don’t get creating your own villains when Spider-Man has a huge rouge’s gallery already. Like I don’t know Mysterio the actual theatrical villain
This musical was my first introduction to Spider Man and Marvel in general which I'm super grateful for. However, you can imagine my confusion years down the line when I realize the Swiss Miss is not in fact a member of the Sinister Six and it appears she was made up specifically for the show? I only thought about this like a year ago and tried to do some research, leading me to conclude this, but if anyone has any more information I would definitely like to hear it. I just think it's so funny that on top of everything else they did wrong they just straight up added a new member of the Sinister Six like it's no big deal
I was wondering who she was, I recognised the few characters but her, bee-man and I thought Carnage was Venom but that's on me having only played some of the games and and watched most of the films.
Imagine being that child, growing up, and learning that the embarrassingly cringy things you said as a kid were turned into the title for the one of the most disastrous Broadway shows of all time.
First the Carrie musical get derailed by the misunderstanding of Grease into Greece. The Spiderman gets way too focused into Greek mythology because of a writer misunderstanding an off the cuff reference. You'd think that story tellers would be better at expressing their vision than this lol
Don’t know how to give it to you. But let’s say I have the documentary made about Turn off the Dark that was never allowed to come out. How can I get that to you… if I had it? ;)
Where’d you find more information about Imagine Dragons writing songs for the show? I saw it mentioned in an old tumblr post years ago but a few months ago when it popped into my head again I could find literally nothing on it besides screenshots of that post. I just assumed it was fake/a rumor.
This show...and yet, it looks like only one got punished and never received a chance for redemption. Edit: It just occurred to me that I told a terrible joke that went over people's heads. I was talking about Arachne.
When Taymor was working on The Lion King, she pitched her idea for the second act with Simba escaping to Las Vegas, becoming a drunk and finding Nala there performing as a showgirl!!! The woman is truly nuts! Luckily Disney Theatrical stepped in and gave her a thumbs down on the idea and stuck the same storyline as the movie!
Hey wait in the wings why don't you collaborate with a comic book fan and another broadway fanatic and talk about a what if they made turn off a dark 3.0
There are no "stunt men" on Broadway. They are actors and dancers, some with special training in aerial or fighting. I saw Spiderman and it was hot mess. No one was injured when I attended the show and the people around me were disappointed about that. That was insane.
Me, a confused Marvel fan: “What the heck is this show?” Wait in the Wings: “She based it on a line from Ultimate Spider-Man.” Me: “That explains the vast majority of this, thank you.”
I was unlucky enough to see SM:TOTD a few weeks after it opened in previews. Nothing could have prepared me for how stultifyingly bad it was except for one fact: Julie Taymor is a TERRIBLE director. I mean the worst. Everyone praised how original her take on The Lion King was. WRONG. A few years before TLK came out, I was a theatre critic in Atlanta, where I often reviewed the work of the Center for Puppetry Arts. And wouldn't you know it-everything said to be original in TLK was work I had seen years before in Atlanta. I mean like NOTHING was original. Now, back to SM:TOTD. The night I saw it, of course there was a malfunction and the show stopped for 20 minutes (was it on purpose? People thought so by that point). It still had the Geek Chorus offering commentary on the action (why???), and the second act was a struggle in search of a storyline, since Green Goblin had been defeated by the end of Act I. I mean it was like one of the worst things I've ever seen (not the worst-not in a world where Cats, Rent, Wicked, and Moulin Rouge-a one-gimmick show if ever there was one-exists). I truly felt sorry for the entire cast having to do this nonsense, but it was all the director's fault. (Remember, she's only had one hit on Broadway and a lot of flops.) And then there's the score (mostly nonexistent). Bono does NOT know how to write a musical. The music had nothing to do with the story. There was no musical reason for this show. Bono dashed off a few tunes and then abandoned the project (but a lot of the problems with the show were with the score).
Hey all! The debate between whether Imagine Dragons worked on the show is one that will probably wage on until I reach the level where I can actually just interview the band. For now, take that story with a grain of salt.
I wanted to attach a link to an Associated Press profile on Imagine Dragons from 2013 where they talk about Turn Off the Dark: www.yahoo.com/entertainment/rising-rock-imagine-dragons-making-moves-165157186.html
and another one from an American Songwriter interview with the producer that discovered them from 2013 as well: americansongwriter.com/songwriter-u-qa-alex-da-kid-discovering-imagine-dragons-crafting-tracks-rihanna-eminem-u2/
That being said, Glenn Berger believes it's a rumor and doesn't mention the band anywhere in his book. Guess we'll have to find out in a third revisiting of this show three years down the line.
Until then, I highly recommend reading the full 338 pages of turmoil in Glenn Berger's jaw-dropping book "Song of Spider-Man". Even if you don't like musicals, it's one that you're gonna have a tough time putting down: amzn.to/3MJrqGx
I hope you enjoyed the video!
There are two kinds of people in this world: Those who turn on the lights, and those who turn off the dark.
This is the true test of a persons character 😂
"Its up to me now
Turn on the bright lights"
I still don't get that stupid title
@@PaintSplashProductions it's probably on an artistic level that's beyond what the human mind can comprehend..
I thought until the order day that it was turn OF the dark, because of how little sense turn off the dark makes. or maybe I was right, and it's just a typo no one ever bothered to correct.
"Watching The Matrix while Radiohead was playing" is such an early 2000s statement dear god
Seriously, why didn't they take this show straight to Las Vegas? Plenty of theater officials would have been ecstatic for the potential to earn that Lion King money, there are places with the aerial equipment already in stock, and there were no shortage of trained performers happy to play the parts.
Complete Speculation: None of the creative team would have signed up to create a show for Las Vegas.
Honestly the fact this musical hasn’t killed someone working on it seems like a miracle
You're telling me!
I think Tony Adams would’ve begged to differ…
Well the original producer (I think) died right before signing the contract...
@@wilma678 I don't think that counts.
EDIT: His death happened before the contracts were even signed and it was from a stroke instead of anything that caused the accidents.
@@KentaroMiyamoto21 really? A man died, and it don't counts? What a monster are you!
I'd always heard Radioactive was written about Spiderman, didn't realize it was THIS Spiderman though
Ah, that makes sense now...
Funnily enough, this would not be the only musical starring Reeve Carney as the hero and Patrick Page as the antagonist centring around a retelling of Greek mythology although it's very clear which was better (and thankfully more successful)
(on that not, the guy at 2:32 who may or may not be J Jonah Jameson has a very familiar looking outfit)
Hadestown slaps
That is Jameson in the photo, BTW
the outfit !!!
you’re so right
I can't feel bad for Taymor. She didn't understand the property and was insistant on derailing it into her own Greek mythology fanfiction.
that's what makes it unique though, quality aside
Yeah, I’ve heard in some discussions that a big problem was that after the original lead producer Adams’ death, Garfinkle was stuck in the position without enough experience to supervise or push back against Taymor well.
In 1986, Andrew Lloyd Webber was prevented from having the chandelier fall directly on the audience yet stopping inches away from them.
Something tells me, if Phantom had opened in 2010 on Broadway, he would have had his wish. And eventually someone in the audience WOULD have had a chandelier fall on them 😂
They did it in Vegas
@@NairAthul And in the restaged US tour
@@ryanschwartz4959 the Vegas one was still cooler, mainly because the theatre was built for it and the money was insane.
You know, a musical just about Arachne would be very interesting, speaking as a mythology nerd!
Yeah, there's a pretty compelling script in there somewhere but forcing it to share space with a fun superhero story just messes both up.
Agreed. Just not fused with a Spider-Man story.
So I actually saw the Spider-Man musical when my theatre class took a field trip to New York. We got to meet the actors after the show. I remember that after a song in the middle of act one the backdrops on the stage rammed into each other and got stuck and they had to stop the show to fix the technical issues. I’d say it took about 40 mins before the show resumed. In the second act the green goblin made fun of this mishap to make the audience laugh. This is the first and only time I’ve seen a malfunction in a professional production
As a stagehand, I gotta wonder how the hell a Broadway stagehand would forget to clip in their stuntman.
Petition to ask Imagine Dragons to release their Spider Man musical demo. Anyone know which Spider Man songs are in Imagine Dragons album? Radioactive?
"Natural" sounds like a villain song
How does a stagehand just "forget" to hook an actor in safely?! I sure hope he/she was fired immediately. That's not just a little mistake; the actor could've died due to negligence.
I hear the show was constantly in a state of re-writes and re-structuring. It sounds to me like they were in a such a state of chaos, they didn't have enough redundancies in place/maybe didn't have the training to make those redundancies happen.
@@YourFaceisPretty Figured as much - from what I read, the first preview was the first time everyone ran through the whole show continuously from beginning to end
It's not hard to make these kinds of mistakes because things backstage are fast, dark, and high-pressure during stunt shows. But that's why redundancies are built in. When an actor is being hooked to a flight system, the person hooking them in always pulls back hard on the wire so the actor can physically feel that they're attached. That's a failsafe, so that both actor and crew know the moment when the attachment is made. Usually, the other end of the line is a semi-permanent connection to the fly system. It's never disconnected. But this one wasn't designed that way. It was a safety cord hooked to the floor. The stagehand got distracted by something that night and forgot to hook the floor end. So he hooked the actor in, pulled back hard...and the actor was hooked to the wire, but the other end wasn't hooked to the floor. This set-up should never have been allowed without an additional redundancy - namely, two people should have been responsible for the floor hook, one to make the connection and the other to confirm it. Yes, the stagehand made a horrible mistake, but his boss also bears responsibility for failing to insist on appropriate confirmation measures.
I’m sure s/he feels terrible about it to this day. I know I would.
I find comfort in the knowledge that this musical was *literally named by a child*
There are so many fascinating stories from this musical I think it'd be extremely possible to make a fantastic Tick-Tick-Boom-style movie about its production, complete with reusing the musical's score as musical numbers to emphasize the creators' states of mind. Even just a docuseries could work.
It'd be legal hell to do (I don't even know if Sony or Disney would have the rights to make it) but everything about this musical sounds like a parody that a comedy show about the entertainment industry a la 30 Rock or Curb Your Enthusiasm would make up as an exaggerated joke
Weirdly your idea made me think of a Ryan Murphy styled series that covers Broadway flops.
@@ms.marvelous8156 Can WE add west end flops and add Andrew Lloyd Webber Cinderella
@@samuelblachon95130 absolutely but Cinderella could become a Broadway flop if/when it comes over to nyc
@@ms.marvelous8156 yes i will see Cinderella june 11
Definitely read SONG OF SPIDER MAN for all the detail.
I’ve heard these stories but I’m still gobsmacked at the disaster this was. Truly, a miracle nobody died. That being said, the idea of Patrick Page going “idk, I think I should strangle this guy to death, what do y’all think?” is kinda hilarious. We love a man who’s committed to his craft 😂
I feel like Tamor could have made a passable show about Arachne, it's just so frustrating that she I guess got bored of making a Spider Man show
Woah wait, was “Radioactive” one of those imagine dragon songs?! If so that’s some nuts theatre lore
Your delivery on this one, especially the section titles, was an absolute delight.
Everything I hear about Turn Off The Dark just confirms my belief that the *really* unlikely thing isn’t that this terrible show was made, it’s that any GOOD shows get made. The Venn diagram of people with money and clout and people with talent, skill, and good ideas seems to be two separate circles 😆
Thank you so much, Allison! :D
I mean yes at least high budget, mainstream productions. Shit like this confirms my belief that “Hollywood” is just a bunch of cia agents playing dress up and laundering money and audience testing. No artists were involved in this circus show lmao
I actually saw a preview version of this show live, and despite all it's flaws, I have a strange love for it
Honestly, growing up with weird anime/JRPG titles, “Turn off the Dark” didn’t even register as odd to me until you said something…
So *that's* why that song is called Radioactive!
An interesting story that came out of this that of "The Spidey Project"; after the numerous delays and accidents, writer Justin Moran laid a challenge that he could write, produce, and mount a Spider-man musical before "Turn on The Dark" was scheduled to open a month later. Many members of the New York theater community volunteered, and by the time "TotD
was scheduled to open (they pushed the opening date again) Justin Moran opened his show, proving that good storytelling didn't need overblown budgets or dangerous stunts and special effects to work. You can find the show on his UA-cam page under his name.
you know if you repaint the green goblin red it would make for a fantastic HIM for a Powerpuff Girls musical
Spider-Man: Turn Off The Dark is the closest America has come to independently recreating the noble British art of the Pantomime.
There have been a few tries of making a few American pantomime's those being "A Snow White Christmas" and a "Wizard of Oz" production
@@tiffany-chan1235 Which Wizard of Oz
@@Quackervoltz the Oz, obviously
Which is a real shame because I think panto needs to be in more places. It's fun! It's funny! EVERYBODY loves it unless you hate fun XD So.... Anyone who's not a politician or a boring billionaire with no hobbies XD Heck I bet even the Queen enjoyed Panto, rest her soul, she had a sense of humour.
Honestly I'm surprised when Americans know panto exists, nevermind what it is and how it works. I wonder if that's the case for the rest of the world too? I know Japan has some silly OTT stuff that doesn't take itself too seriously, their own form of Panto.
I am both appalled and delighted to learn that the bizarre title came from something so random and mundane. So many rich people, so llttle common sense in the room.
My mind got stuck on the phrasing of "a backstage coup lead to director Julie Temor getting fired."
Like "a backstage coup" as opposed to an onstage coup where the cast and/or audience take over the show.
I'm having flashbacks of Into the Woods.
@@IngenuousSoprano I know naff all about this, what happened, or what do I search?
@@Roadent1241 you want to look for the original cast proshot of Into the Woods (Bernadette Peters as the witch). There's a scene towards the top of act 2 that involves the narrator not anticipating the outcome.
Trying not to spoil it!
@@IngenuousSoprano Oh you mean a scene in the play, I thought you meant something off-script that happens or the cast yelled at the managing director for something and it was like one of their scenes XD
@@Roadent1241 hahaha! No, nothing that crazy. Usually, that's just a good way to get fired.
I low-key wrote an essay for my AP english class about this musical and how the inability of the production team to work together and find a good version of the show led to its downfall. Thanks Bono.
Congrats! What grade did you get?
@@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho You know, I got a 100% and my teacher said it was the best essay she'd read from me all year- so the Spiderman musical would eventually get those rave reviews... it just took a decade and a different form.
I am so glad I saw this when I was in New York. The story was awful, but it had some cool moments. But I just like being able to say I saw it haha.
I feel like a Spider-man movie musical would’ve been MUCH more successful! 😆
Only if Andrew Garfield was in the lead
@@WaitintheWings and directed by Lin Manuel Miranda 😏🤭
@@WaitintheWings We need a Turn off The Dark revival with Andrew Garfield
@@WaitintheWings Andrew can't sing or dance. Tom can.
@@Clay3613Andrew can't sing?!😂🤔
Just another way that fate continues to ruin Peter Parker's life...or ten. There's probably more than 10.
Halloween safety? This is like Airplane levels of parody. 😜
ive been LOVING this "gosip-ish" behind the scenes videos!!
YES!!! Always looking for more SP:TOTD content. As someone who’s well aware of the flaws, this show will literally always be my favorite musical. So happy to see more content!
I would say this is my new favorite video of yours… but the “history” of Rogers: The Musical just can’t be beat. Maybe a video on what was on Broadway instead of Spidey in the MCU during that time period…?
reeve carney wants you to trick and treat safely
day ??? of asking you to cover the raggedy ann musical!!! so fascinating (and also a lot of crazy inside knowledge, everything from unbelievable safety violations to insane drama... we've got it all!)
yeah!!! lol when he was talking about the cut suggestive bits with Arachne all i was thinking was man, at least she wasn't pole dancing
ok i know about a lot of these but I WAS NOT READY FOR THE DEAD BODY GREEN GOBLIN THING I WAS NOT READY
Why was there no-one double-checking the SINGLE ATTACHMENT POINT holding an actor above a potentially lethal fall?
ok but if they reference this in Spider-verse 2, I am going to flip my lid 😂
If you aren’t Nexus, you’re against us!
I remember that huge canvas Billboard stretching across the theater, probably the most impressive visual the show had to offer...
Taymor had such a great reputation before this show. She really threw that in the dumpster.
I don't understand how you can just forget to attach a harness to the cable. When I was the stage manger for shows I put reminders in the cue sheet and always double checked air and stuff even if other people said they did it and that isn't going to hurt anyone if something runs out of air
Radioactive makes so much more sense now.
I need too see Bono's Mr Burns impression
Who decided to relisten to older Imagine Dragon songs and try to place Spiderman contexts to them and realized they work
It's a shame that the moment the Greek myth angle was mentioned, no one stood up and said "NO!" with great emphasis. Perhaps with a megaphone.
2:48
“Couldn’t find a way to get the dead reporter offstage.” Weird, considering the stage floor had elevators
I mean: would Irl equivalent be, if body suddenly fall through the floor, al-la sand through the grind?
@@AlinaAniretake I just meant that the body could've been lowered via elevator during the scene change from the Daily Bugle to the streets of New York
Realized I hadn't actually finished watching this video! What a wild production.
Incase its a template, "Producers" at 0:45 is misspelt. Awesome content! Love the vid
Can someone tell me which songs Imagine Dragons made were for the Spidey musicals? I NEED to listen to them, like, now
Rumor has always been "Radioactive" is one of them, which does make sense!
Woah bro, starts with a clip of Dance of the Vampire's! I wonder if you'll ever do a... I don't know... do a video on it? That would be a gigachad move if you did
Wait a minute... That's how it looked like on Broadway?!
You guys were robbed!
I'm still disappointed because this all feels like a huge missed opportunity. Imagine if they started out the play with this bizarre period piece and confused audiences then it was announced that the play was starring "Mary Jane Watson" then we heard someone in the audience came running towards the stage and was escorted by security saying "MJ! It's me, Peter! I'm sorry I'm late!" Then it transitions to Peter's story.
Still don’t get creating your own villains when Spider-Man has a huge rouge’s gallery already.
Like I don’t know Mysterio the actual theatrical villain
This musical was my first introduction to Spider Man and Marvel in general which I'm super grateful for. However, you can imagine my confusion years down the line when I realize the Swiss Miss is not in fact a member of the Sinister Six and it appears she was made up specifically for the show? I only thought about this like a year ago and tried to do some research, leading me to conclude this, but if anyone has any more information I would definitely like to hear it. I just think it's so funny that on top of everything else they did wrong they just straight up added a new member of the Sinister Six like it's no big deal
I was wondering who she was, I recognised the few characters but her, bee-man and I thought Carnage was Venom but that's on me having only played some of the games and and watched most of the films.
How did this show even happen, it's so bizarre
I'd love to see you doing more list videos! Like, never stop the usual content of course, it will always be the best, but these are also great!
Imagine being that child, growing up, and learning that the embarrassingly cringy things you said as a kid were turned into the title for the one of the most disastrous Broadway shows of all time.
Love this as a video format
I’m glad you liked it! Thanks for watching and commenting :)
@@WaitintheWings Anytime and always Brendon. Grateful to be a patron too 😊✊🏾
Thank you so much for all the work you put in those videos 🖤
What a crazy tale!
All hail the Algorithm.
I’m a simple girl, I see Patrick Page and I click
'A Freak Like Me' fucking slaps and I will hear nothing negative being said about it. It's be best song in musical theatre history.
The Glenn Berger book is so good!
It really does humanize everyone involved.
I saw that Swiss Miss had a cameo in Across the Spider-Verse, she needs to make her comic debut.
First the Carrie musical get derailed by the misunderstanding of Grease into Greece.
The Spiderman gets way too focused into Greek mythology because of a writer misunderstanding an off the cuff reference. You'd think that story tellers would be better at expressing their vision than this lol
The Better Call Saul clip about the dead body 😂🤣
"Before coming on to Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark, Julie Taymor didn't know that much about comic books or superheroes."
Shocking.
That certainly explains a lot
If a stagehand forgot to Attach the harness, and the actor was injured, then the company would be suffering an OSHA violation.
my first ever broadway show! i was a kid so i absolutely loved it 🤷🏻♂️
those sets are sick though i can't lie
I saw it live, I consider myself a historian of this musical with how much research I've done on this show post me seeing in 2011
LOL... Okay... I kinda liked it when I saw it.
Love your first Spiderman video!!!
I can’t believe this is a thing that existed.
PLEASE make a King Kong video already
Don’t know how to give it to you. But let’s say I have the documentary made about Turn off the Dark that was never allowed to come out. How can I get that to you… if I had it? ;)
When I read that Taymor was involved with this show, my first thought "This is going to be a disaster!". By all accounts it was, because of her.
Imagine Dragons were rejected, it wasn't their fault. Their music was way better than Bono's
Where’d you find more information about Imagine Dragons writing songs for the show? I saw it mentioned in an old tumblr post years ago but a few months ago when it popped into my head again I could find literally nothing on it besides screenshots of that post. I just assumed it was fake/a rumor.
This show...and yet, it looks like only one got punished and never received a chance for redemption.
Edit: It just occurred to me that I told a terrible joke that went over people's heads. I was talking about Arachne.
Seriously 🙄
@@WaitintheWings that and the poor people who had to be hospitalized. Were they covered for that?
14:13 Amazing reference and bit of editing right here
0:44 Produers hehe
5:19 @WaitintheWings Disney should make a “Princess and the Frog” musical on Broadway!
Thank you so much for more Spider-Man content
When Taymor was working on The Lion King, she pitched her idea for the second act with Simba escaping to Las Vegas, becoming a drunk and finding Nala there performing as a showgirl!!! The woman is truly nuts! Luckily Disney Theatrical stepped in and gave her a thumbs down on the idea and stuck the same storyline as the movie!
The title's story reminds me of the "Send in the clowns" story - even though the Sondheim's explanation is much more logical and understandable...
Hey wait in the wings why don't you collaborate with a comic book fan and another broadway fanatic and talk about a what if they made turn off a dark 3.0
I knew about the first story but the rest were interesting to hear for the first time
There are no "stunt men" on Broadway. They are actors and dancers, some with special training in aerial or fighting.
I saw Spiderman and it was hot mess. No one was injured when I attended the show and the people around me were disappointed about that. That was insane.
We need a big budget hollywood movie about this hahaha
Me, a confused Marvel fan: “What the heck is this show?”
Wait in the Wings: “She based it on a line from Ultimate Spider-Man.”
Me: “That explains the vast majority of this, thank you.”
12:52-12:58 Because if there was anything Spider-Man needed, it was to be more silly than the Sam Raimi movies.
I was unlucky enough to see SM:TOTD a few weeks after it opened in previews. Nothing could have prepared me for how stultifyingly bad it was except for one fact: Julie Taymor is a TERRIBLE director. I mean the worst. Everyone praised how original her take on The Lion King was. WRONG. A few years before TLK came out, I was a theatre critic in Atlanta, where I often reviewed the work of the Center for Puppetry Arts. And wouldn't you know it-everything said to be original in TLK was work I had seen years before in Atlanta. I mean like NOTHING was original. Now, back to SM:TOTD. The night I saw it, of course there was a malfunction and the show stopped for 20 minutes (was it on purpose? People thought so by that point). It still had the Geek Chorus offering commentary on the action (why???), and the second act was a struggle in search of a storyline, since Green Goblin had been defeated by the end of Act I. I mean it was like one of the worst things I've ever seen (not the worst-not in a world where Cats, Rent, Wicked, and Moulin Rouge-a one-gimmick show if ever there was one-exists). I truly felt sorry for the entire cast having to do this nonsense, but it was all the director's fault. (Remember, she's only had one hit on Broadway and a lot of flops.) And then there's the score (mostly nonexistent). Bono does NOT know how to write a musical. The music had nothing to do with the story. There was no musical reason for this show. Bono dashed off a few tunes and then abandoned the project (but a lot of the problems with the show were with the score).
Wow, a musical so bad it created Imagine Dragons.
The title of this show is another reason to hate Bono 😂😂😂
Yea…. although The Princess and the Frog should get a Broadway musical
the Hadestown prologue: