Honey House Build (Pt. 1)
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2022
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Building a honey house from a shipping container. This will be a long term project, and I’m sure it’ll be full of mistakes and frustrations. I hope you can learn something from my experience.
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You're a couple years ahead on the same path I'm looking at. Thank you for breaking down your thoughts on the process. Excellent video!
Thanks, hope it all works out well.
Great part 1 video. Looking forward to following along as your project progresses. We aren’t there yet but will likely be there in a few years.
It’s a ton of work starting out, really busy now trying to get water and electric, framing, insulation, and AC. After all the mechanical and infrastructure is there I can take my time finishing it.
Good luck Nathan. So much work!
Thanks Kenneth!
Super cool!!!!!!
Fantastic! I bought 2 , 20’ containers and one is my shop and the other will be my honey house. I was worried it my not be big enough but it’s all can could fit in the area. I may have to get a third container if so. But like you said the containers offer many options.
Maybe the best thing about them is four walls, floor, and roof right NOW. No waiting for a contractor.
Great information! Looking forward to seeing the progress. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks
So interesting. Looking forward to your adventure. Your little girl is getting cuter all the time. Take time to stare at them and remember what they look like. In a blink they are grown up and gone.
They’re finally big enough that we can get out and do things. Took them to the creek to find crawdads between church services yesterday.
@@DuckRiverHoney Great times for dad. My son loved fishing down on the river. Got some nice catfish.
Hopefully you will have it up and ready by the second harvest. I will never see the 150 gallon limit here for several seasons but Hopefully you will be beyond that in no time. Good luck and hope everything works out for you and your family 👪. ❤️🐝
Thanks Michael!
The shipping containers are a great idea for all kinds of things. Storage especially, but interesting you converting to a honey house. A house down the road is built into and onto two containers like yours and is a private residence, so anything is possible with them. Glad we go by income over gallons here in LA or I'd a been outside the law for a few years. We're bound by 20K in bucks. I wonder why they require the one particular drain that will have honey going to the septic based on what we all learned from Bob on honey going into a septic. hmmm, figure they would've thought about that when writing toe code. You are a very ambitious man, but I know it'll be a top notch setup when you're done based on how you do everything we've gotten to see on your channel. Thanks for sharing Nathan.
Thanks Mike! Lots of work. Got water a few days ago, electric to the building today, AC installed, a little framing done. Need some wiring to hook up the AC and we’re in business. Really hoping I can do a honey pull soon, timing is getting very very tight.
I watched the Bush Bee Man on his channel and he has two shipping containers for a honey house. I have a twenty foot shipping container and you are correct it is not enough space. I built a wall over my double doors to run electrical and for a window air/heat. It take about 2 feet from inside but you can still store stuff there. I have a single door at the other end. Sounds like you have a good plan. Thanks for sharing. Good luck.
Thanks, I plan to keep my double doors usable. It’ll flow well if full supers go in the end doors, then extract, and empty supers go out the man door in the middle. It works in my head anyway.
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So continuing to watch the video man I love the scripture idea, very cool. And because Of that I need something from you, because I know your the guy! Collab not me but someone who can use it more. Hit me up or don't I'm gonna keep watching. A new beekeepers channel.
keep up posted. thanks for sharing!
Thanks!
I appreciate the verse reference 😊 as for building with those containers..... You can really go off the deep end, but picking those up off the ground would increase the life of the floors and decrease bug activity and allow access to anything that you might want to run from below, ie wires and plumbing.... Just one opinion
Thanks, I’m planning to jack them up a bit with a farm jack and get everything leveled and sloped how I want. The floor drain will need about 1% slope.
@@DuckRiverHoney wish you were up here to partner with me, im scaling and got a sawmill and the backing of my family farm
Thanks John
Thanks for the video like always. Your going big time. Very expensive to have bees I have found out.
Dave I think I can max out at 40-50 colonies and it still be part time. I’ve got to have this permit to get that big….
A bit late now but for others. I would recommend a concrete floor. It would easily incorporate the floor drain,it’s durable, water proof,and ants can’t tear it up. If reinforced correctly the wood could rot completely away and you might never know.
I think also a simple shed roof on the sunny side would reduce solar heat gain, and I’m fairly certain most folks can find something to store under the cover.
Only issue with a concrete floor is I don’t want anything permanent at the moment. I may put a carport in eventually which would give shade.
Howdy Nathan!
This is an excellent idea of using a shipping container as a honey house. It is so portable, that You can call it a "pick & place" system ;)
As You're looking for input on Your build, here are my 3 cents.
Once I had a talk with my wife (she's a construction engineer) about insulating the roof truss with the polyurethane foam (I guess this is the stuff sprayed over the walls). I thought of it as an excellent idea, as the truss become more solid, harder for varmints to penetrate, I could name so many pros that came on my mind, I could hardly see any cons. She told me just one thing: despite some people isulate their roofs with the foam, it is against the law to do so with the public buildings (at least here, in Poland). This material is flammable (unlike the mineral wool or styrofoam), and when it is set on fire, it produces a lot of lethal substances, which instantly trip off the humans prior they realise the danger.
Take care for the right fire protection measures.
Wish You a nice flow, sunny weather, looking forward new videos!
Cheers, Mike
Thanks Mike. I’m not too worried about fire in it just because nobody will be sleeping in there, and I’ll have insurance.
Harbor freight sells a shade cloth/tarp.
Put it on the outside of the container when you are working in middle of summer. Pull it off the rest of the time. It makes a huge difference. Keeps the suns UV from heating up the metal. If you want to go to next level spray foam the outside of the building and then paint it.
I thought about insulating the outside, but if I did that I’d probably put a metal roof over it and close it in. That’d be on down the road…I don’t want to turn it into a more permanent building yet.
Once I've tried to paint my polyurethane hive box, I've learned they cannot be painted until the outer surface oxidizes for a year or so.
I'd rather try to utilize the sun by setting up sort of DIY solar collector or solar panels. Or even both. It could be mounted on the twist locks.
Looking good. Shadecloth is cheap, you could prolly just toss over that aluminum cloth.
Spray foam is awesome. Humitity might become an issue with closed cell foam. Just fyi.
Thanks! I run a dehumidifier inside and haven’t had issues with condensation.
@@DuckRiverHoney I had to do the same.with my house. Worked a little to good!
I’m a few years from this, so this is super helpful. Did you modify the doors at all before spraying?
Nope, just sprayed and then did some trimming of foam so they’d shut.
i had a 40 high cube which is taller,and added roof vent ,swing door, it came e rollup door on one end,i added electrical lights,shelving, even laundry and tv....i miss it
Sounds nice Mark, what type of roof vent, and for what purpose? I’m thinking I may have to put in a vent or air exchange or something so the AC has enough air.
@@DuckRiverHoney a spinning whirly type, i cut a hole, and used vise grips to bend the metal around to keep water out,worked well,
I've been thinking of getting myself a 16 feet enclosed trailer and putting my honey house in there. Since I'm in an apartment, something mobile seems appropriate.
Might work, a lot depends on the regs in your state…food trucks get approved …
@@DuckRiverHoney Oh I just realized... You could put a "Stripe" of plywood at mid height along the walls and cover the rest with those plastics cladding sheets. Best of both worlds. Allows you to mount on the plywood but the rest is less expensive plastic.
I’ll frame it with studs on 2’ centers most likely, so I’ll be able to anchor whatever I need.
Good information. How were you thinking of finishing out the AdvanTec floor?
I’ll post an update soon. I used vinyl plank.
Hey Nath,
Kids and boxes hey…..buy a $10000 honey house and they just want to play with the box☺️.
Excited to see where you go and blessed to be part of this journey. I agree with the comments below raising it off the ground to then allow 6-8 points of contact only (6-8ft of contact) as opposed to having the whole bottom which is about 320 or so feet of contact with the ground. These would make excellent quick inspection points for ants and vermin like we do here for termites.
I know you moved that other container over already but how about separating the two and joining the two with a roof. Nothing flash. This would provide a breezeway and storage area between the two with room to add gates later for storage of a truck.
Or perhaps then add a floor between both and enclose the space between the containers to add a whole new space/office/packing shed area. Cut access doors into both containers. Limited only by money and imagination.
Thanks again for all the time you put in as a beekeeper and UA-camr. You content is always a pleasure to watch.
Thanks Wayne, I left enough room between the two to get the excavator through to dig the septic line. Don’t know yet if I’ll scoot the small one over next to the big one or not. I thought about putting a carport between the two because the two containers would act as walls to block wind and rain, would be a decent place to store woodenware. IF this grows enough to justify a real building I’d prefer to sink money into that and just repurpose the containers, so I don’t want to over modify them or make them too permanent. The kids are making bring them out to the honey house daily because my son has built his “headquarters” in there out of a table laid on its side and some leftover foam sheets.
@@DuckRiverHoney of course Nath, knowing you you would have already thought about every current plan and future plan for the site, costing out each possible path you could choose in you operation. 🤔👍
Well, looking at the grin on your face, despite the hard work, you look like you’re enjoying yourself and so am I.
Keep up the inspiring work.
Wayne, I’m a slow thinker…I roll things around in my mind a long time before I act on them, and I try to leave a lot of room for coming up with a better idea later. Current thoughts are that this will work for a while to get me going, but to scale from here I’d need a dock to offload trucks, and a forklift. Then a building that hopefully could use the same dock. It’s fun to have plans, even if you change them later. 😉
@@DuckRiverHoney in this day and age with the cost of everything going up, rolling ideas around in the head for a while seems the smartest idea. I like the notion of putting a question out to your viewers and getting a collective response. Some ideas you may have never considered.
Wayne, I hope to be humble enough to learn something from anybody.
Good job, the Word of God 1st. your work. He, Blesses those that Love Him and put Him 1st in their lives. I love the container, was thinking of a small one myself. Also MUCH cheaper then building materials and labor right now. Plus you can get surplus used containers for even better prices. I look forward to seeing your vision manifest with this project. Just be sure to talk with God on the way, He has the best ideas.👑
I hate that foam spray, I'd rather to insulation-sheet costs more but, I HATE FOAM SPRAY.🤣I think I'd have cut windows in gona be HOT in there. Have you looked at the instahot inline water heaters?
Ty for sharing y our time, Blessed Days...
The spray foam is mostly to eliminate condensation, foam sheets or something like RMax would be cheaper. Fiberglass wouldn’t be appropriate. I’ll definitely put a door in. I may put a couple windows in as well.
you done well to get a shipping container nowadays
I had someone local who had one in stock. I jumped on it.
Liked the Bible Verses...
Thanks
Where could someone get one of those containers here in middle Tennessee. I'm in Springfield, TN
Don’t know for sure, lots of places in Nashville. I got mine from East Hickman Mobile Storage in Lyles
You mean you don't want to stay whole sale?
The regulation in our state says raw agricultural commodity”, honey that is in the comb or that is removed from the comb and in an unadulterated condition. This allows unadulterated honey to be extracted in a “honey house” of the beekeepers choosing so long as standard practices of cleanliness are followed. These rules apply to beekeepers harvesting less than 500 gallons of honey. I guess they are saying around 6000 lbs?? I'm not sure about what the unadulterated part means either.
Unadulterated May mean a flavored honey? Like a cinnamon or lemon infused?
Or added corn syrup as is in a lot of imported honey
how much was the foam?
850 or 865 each. Last year it was around 750.
Maybe plant some bee bee trees for shade and they bloom in August
I’ll probably do some planting, not sure what yet
@@DuckRiverHoney Many say the Bee Bee Tree (avoida sp?) is thee best bee tree to plant in most areas. It flowers late when there is little else around. Quite hardy and doesn't get real big - 20-25 ft tall. No pests.
Thanks Russell, I’ll look into them.
Can you tell me the factors that led you to containers versus a portable shed. I have to do something about more space as well.
I didn’t look at a portable shed, don’t know of anyone locally that sells any big enough for what I need. There is a mobile storage place that deals in containers though.
Government rarely makes sense.
You got that right!
Just found your channel. Your comment about writing Bible verses on the wall is enough to get a sub from me! 🙂
Thanks!