Lol. "There's nothing good on this planet." There's a line Holden says in the book, Cibola Burn. Nuclear explosion, followed by an earthquake, and a Tsunami, and fusion not working, and whatever that infection is, and something else you haven't seen yet: He says, "No coffee. This is a terrible, terrible place."
12:26 I love how much it subtly shows us about Klaes Ashfords character without telling us directly. He remembers being as angry as Marco even fears it. Cant quite look back at the image of his daughter thinking about the violence he may have to use to bring him in but at the same time knows what must be done.
@@Pink.andahalf for me it's Tiamat's Wrath, so much good lore and crazy sequences, but Nemesis Games is a very very very close second. Honestly they may as well be tied
@@Magmakojote Nah, 11 months (I hope). Book 5 is generally regarded as the best book in the series, so we're in for a wild ride. Book 8 was supposedly also a homerun I've heard. In fact, I did accidentaly spoil *myself* for book 8. Read through some reddit comments and ignored the spoiler tag. Now I hope that I forget what I know about book 8 before its season airs. So that's three years or so.
No one seems to get that even though Lucia helped to blow up the landing pad, she thought it was going to be just the pad so that the Earthers arriving on the Edward Israel would simply not be able to land on the panlet. She had no expectation nor desire to hurt anyone. Then they were surprised because the shuttle came earlier than expected. The Belter who pushed her was quite happy at the idea of everyone on the shuttle dying in the explosion as they landed but Lucia wanted to stop it. When you see her on the transport pressing the trigger, that was her trying to save those people by blowing it up *before* they were in range to land. By doing so, she was able to save some of them. If she hadn't done that, the entire group of Inners would have all died.
The scene with the glowing thing with the lasers was a fusion reactor (a theoretical form of generating electricity) which also powers the roci’s main engine, as well as the engines of almost all ships in The Expanse. It generates power the same way the sun burns; by fusing atoms to produce extreme heat, and in the roci’s case, also thrust in the process. But now the laws of physics have been altered to prevent the fusion reactor from working properly. Which leaves the crew pretty much screwed.
the music when the tsunami was coming was very reminiscent of the music from the water planet in the movie interstellar. it is the swelling omnious sound that just fits with water physics based danger ;)
U can visibly see on mickey face when they ask questions he knows answers from books. It's somehow really funny to me. But im impressed in the same time that he stays quiet. Anyway loved the reaction and the show.
"James Holden is a goddamn hero, bro. He's a badass." Could ANYONE have seen that coming during the first episode/chapters of this series? Such amazing character development. Goes from a naive, idealistic idiot to a total badass. And he just keeps getting better and better in the book series. Holden is fucking awesome.
I don't have a single issue with the father informing his adult daughter about the actions of her mother, which the result of which have her on the run from the law, on the Roci in space and so on. She deserves to know.
In season 3 Ashford had told Diogo that he had watched his only child burn. So that video that Ashford was watching of him with his baby has more of a meaning.
From wikipedia: In its most general sense, the word earthquake is used to describe any seismic event-whether natural or caused by humans-that generates seismic waves. Earthquakes are caused mostly by rupture of geological faults but also by other events such as volcanic activity, landslides, mine blasts, and nuclear tests.
Nice little details of this show: In the 1st episode the scientists in the shuttle mention that Illus has no magnetic field of it's own. In a later episode ProtoMiller looks at Illus with his proto-vision & sees that it's moons protect the planet with their magnetic fields ( which are most likely artificial ). Either the planet had no molten core to begin with or the Builders halted it to stop any random volcanic activity & placed the moons there for overlapping magnetic fields & a laser defense network. They then placed giant fusion ( or anti-matter?) reactors on the planet to power their mining infrastructure. Maybe one of them just exploded? They are a billion years old, after all. All the little details of this show make me speculate like crazy. This is incredible sci-fi.
It's funny because I had heard that a lot of people didn't like the book that this season is based on, but it is making hellish great TV! Totally on fire! ... Also, great Belter accent, announcer!
If you want to have the experience of book 4 without reading it, rewatch season 4 skipping every scene that doesn't happen on Ilus or one of the ships orbiting it.
@@Pink.andahalf Nah, the books go into a lot more detail. That would be like reading a wiki summary. Just read the books and enjoy. I liked book 4 more than book 3. A true sci-fi western.
I'm still convinced Ilus isn't a planet but a space ship/station. Maybe it was a planet at one time, but I think it was converted into a ship/station by the Builders using the protomolecule. The volcanic islands (like the one that overheated and exploded), I believe, are its engines/fusion drives.
I always found it strange that Bobbie would ask if he served considering Mars has conscription and she literally says "all martians serve" during the peace conference on earth. So I'd assume only people with medical or other exceptions wouldn't serve.
Remember that The Investigator has been "flipping switches" since the Rocinante entered orbit. Nothing appears to be directed by an intelligence. Just like when you have a power-surge and afterward you computer reboots. Nothing intelligent there, just action/reaction.
Hoo boy, the stuff that'll go down in that structure! Can't wait for all of you to see it! BTW, I don't know if you guys have found this yet, but apparently on UA-cam someone posted a film called "Gozāresh (The Report)", that was made in Iran back in 1977; a year or so before the Islamic Revolution occurred. Shoreh Agdashloo (Chrisjen) is in it in a supporting role as a young wife to the lead character (she was about 25 at the time). This was apparently the last film she made in Iran before emigrating to the UK soon after. Here's a link to the whole movie, which is apparently considered one of the best films to come out of Iran in the past 50 years. If you don't have time to see the whole thing and just want to see young Shoreh, go to the video's fourteen-minute mark. ua-cam.com/video/d2OTZg7suVQ/v-deo.html
I think the whole planet has been terraformed into some kind of machine - for what purpose I have no idea - but I took it to be that it was so old and had been so dormant for so long (the exobiologist said something about 3 phases of life x the builders, the planet's new ecosystem over thousands of years, and now humans x so it's hella old!) and that electrical lightning triggered by miller/holden restarted 3 planetwide power reactors of some sort, but they were so old and degraded that one overloaded and exploded, causing the protomolechule/alien tech to enact some kind of anti-fusion field to prevent the explosion spreading and from the other two from exploding too. Wondering if it was ever explained in the book?
Very little detail is given in the book, but a little more than the series. I totally agree with your idea though. I had pretty much the same idea a few days after I finished watching this season. I think the answer to the "what purpose" is shown in the last two episodes. It would give a great reason for the war the proto-builders lost.
Anyone knows the name of the music playing in the background, when Bobbie is at the club with Esai and LeeLee, planning their next project? I've looked high and low but haven't found it......
Sparks from grinding are incandescent tiny pieces of metal that glow because of the heat. So yeah, grinding would still cause sparks. In low gravity as in Mars, they'd still fall to the ground as they do on Earth, in space, they'd just float.
So, this season starts out as, basically, a Western, The setup, in fact, comes straight out of the classic Sergio Leone film, A Fistful of Dollars. However, with this episode, the feuding frontier factions plot-line from classic Western movies comes completely off the rails. That's because the authors know the science, and the show-runners care enough to keep the science intact. What happens when a bunch of completely unprepared settlers arrive on a planet that has evolved life with biochemistry largely compatible with human biology? It's not the local equivalents of dinosaurs and cave-lions you'd have to worry about. The kinda guns these guys pack can take care of those, easy. Instead, you have to worry about the local analogs of viruses, bacteria and fungi that can live inside people, to which humans have evolved no immunity. Something starts growing inside people's eyes, or intestinal tracts, or lungs? Everybody gets sick, and a lot of people die, and that's even if a cure can be found pretty quickly. That would take place even on any world with life that has similar biochemistry -- even one that didn't have the added complexity of the ancient, malfunctioning Builder technology. Settlement on a world before anybody has a chance to study the risks posed by its biology -- heck, even before anybody has had a chance to start to investigate the native life -- is a particularly stupid and irresponsible way to commit slow suicide. Avasarala is dead right about the stupidity of moving in too quickly, and she'd be right even without the presence of incomprehensible technology.| The action, and politics, and conflicts caused by characters who have completely different motivations, along with the special effects, make this show great to watch. But if you know even a *little bit* about science -- even from watching UA-cam documentaries -- it becomes one of the best shows ever made. Full stop.
Murtry is just being pragmatic. It's harsh, but his decisions so far have been smart when looked at from his perspective. His job is to protect and save his people as a priority, not everyone. And if he has to make a choice, he would choose his people over the Belters because that's his job and some of them already committed an act of terrorism against the RCE shuttle that killed most of the Earthers (that had a legal charter from Earth and Mars while the Belters illegally ran a blockade!) sent to New Terra/Ilus for a scientific expedition. He's kind of a dick, but so far he hasn't done anything wrong really when you look at things from his point of view. Also, incoming greenseers! Unlike GoT, the green sight here isn't as cool to have though...
Lol. "There's nothing good on this planet." There's a line Holden says in the book, Cibola Burn. Nuclear explosion, followed by an earthquake, and a Tsunami, and fusion not working, and whatever that infection is, and something else you haven't seen yet: He says, "No coffee. This is a terrible, terrible place."
That ending scene with Holden is one of my favorite scenes. He was so badass and the music is amazing!
soundtrack, visuals, characters, story, writing, The Expanse is perfect
12:26 I love how much it subtly shows us about Klaes Ashfords character without telling us directly. He remembers being as angry as Marco even fears it. Cant quite look back at the image of his daughter thinking about the violence he may have to use to bring him in but at the same time knows what must be done.
This season has been on fire, and man I cant wait to see Nemesis Games on screen !
Best book in the series, next season.
@@Pink.andahalf for me it's Tiamat's Wrath, so much good lore and crazy sequences, but Nemesis Games is a very very very close second. Honestly they may as well be tied
@@LINKedup101 Here's hoping you get to see that on screen. Five more seasons if all goes well.
@@Pink.andahalf agreed, I want allll of it to happen. Still waiting to hear about season 6, and the wait for season 5 is killer
Personally for me the Tsunami was the most impressive thing this season. Just raw natural power, a real threat.
I'm sure that moment will be topped in S5 by another sort of "raw natural power".
@@STR33TSofJUST1C3 nah man, you cant tease me like that :D we have to wait atleast another year for season 5 :D
@@Magmakojote Nah, 11 months (I hope). Book 5 is generally regarded as the best book in the series, so we're in for a wild ride. Book 8 was supposedly also a homerun I've heard.
In fact, I did accidentaly spoil *myself* for book 8. Read through some reddit comments and ignored the spoiler tag. Now I hope that I forget what I know about book 8 before its season airs. So that's three years or so.
@@Magmakojote Yep Dec 2020
@@STR33TSofJUST1C3 People's minds will get blown if/when they see that!
No one seems to get that even though Lucia helped to blow up the landing pad, she thought it was going to be just the pad so that the Earthers arriving on the Edward Israel would simply not be able to land on the panlet. She had no expectation nor desire to hurt anyone. Then they were surprised because the shuttle came earlier than expected. The Belter who pushed her was quite happy at the idea of everyone on the shuttle dying in the explosion as they landed but Lucia wanted to stop it. When you see her on the transport pressing the trigger, that was her trying to save those people by blowing it up *before* they were in range to land. By doing so, she was able to save some of them. If she hadn't done that, the entire group of Inners would have all died.
The scene with the glowing thing with the lasers was a fusion reactor (a theoretical form of generating electricity) which also powers the roci’s main engine, as well as the engines of almost all ships in The Expanse. It generates power the same way the sun burns; by fusing atoms to produce extreme heat, and in the roci’s case, also thrust in the process. But now the laws of physics have been altered to prevent the fusion reactor from working properly. Which leaves the crew pretty much screwed.
the music when the tsunami was coming was very reminiscent of the music from the water planet in the movie interstellar. it is the swelling omnious sound that just fits with water physics based danger ;)
U can visibly see on mickey face when they ask questions he knows answers from books. It's somehow really funny to me. But im impressed in the same time that he stays quiet.
Anyway loved the reaction and the show.
#NotSpoilerMan 😉
Mickey does a way better job than Suraj does with lost spoilers. He has to wear shades to hide answers 😂
did they connect this with moses story finding promise land? amos being like moses brother etc
That nuke was 11950 megatons of TNT, the largest nuke ever produced on Earth is only 50 and that was over 3,800 Hiroshimas.
Incorrect. 1 exajoul is 239 megatons. The explosion was 50,000 exajoules. True yield = just under 12 million megatons.
"James Holden is a goddamn hero, bro. He's a badass."
Could ANYONE have seen that coming during the first episode/chapters of this series? Such amazing character development. Goes from a naive, idealistic idiot to a total badass. And he just keeps getting better and better in the book series. Holden is fucking awesome.
I don't have a single issue with the father informing his adult daughter about the actions of her mother, which the result of which have her on the run from the law, on the Roci in space and so on. She deserves to know.
Great belter slang at the end there!
I died
In season 3 Ashford had told Diogo that he had watched his only child burn. So that video that Ashford was watching of him with his baby has more of a meaning.
It wasn't an earthquake. Illus has no tectonic activity at all.
From wikipedia:
In its most general sense, the word earthquake is used to describe any seismic event-whether natural or caused by humans-that generates seismic waves. Earthquakes are caused mostly by rupture of geological faults but also by other events such as volcanic activity, landslides, mine blasts, and nuclear tests.
Nice little details of this show: In the 1st episode the scientists in the shuttle mention that Illus has no magnetic field of it's own. In a later episode ProtoMiller looks at Illus with his proto-vision & sees that it's moons protect the planet with their magnetic fields ( which are most likely artificial ).
Either the planet had no molten core to begin with or the Builders halted it to stop any random volcanic activity & placed the moons there for overlapping magnetic fields & a laser defense network. They then placed giant fusion ( or anti-matter?) reactors on the planet to power their mining infrastructure. Maybe one of them just exploded? They are a billion years old, after all.
All the little details of this show make me speculate like crazy. This is incredible sci-fi.
@@allyourmoney It may simply be a completely manufactured planet.
This 4x6 episode is not in the playlist. Instead you added 4x5 twice.
This whole last season has been the perfect example of "Dont worry, it gets worse"
It's funny because I had heard that a lot of people didn't like the book that this season is based on, but it is making hellish great TV! Totally on fire! ... Also, great Belter accent, announcer!
If you want to have the experience of book 4 without reading it, rewatch season 4 skipping every scene that doesn't happen on Ilus or one of the ships orbiting it.
@@Pink.andahalf Nah, the books go into a lot more detail. That would be like reading a wiki summary. Just read the books and enjoy. I liked book 4 more than book 3. A true sci-fi western.
@@jrich749 Reread my comment. If you want to have the EXPERIENCE of book 4 without reading it....
Not some soulless wiki summary.
Imagine Yellowstone exploding. That's the explosion happened other side of the planet, or even worse.
Yeah, it's actually worse than a Yellowstone Supervolcano Eruption, several times so. That shows how big it really was
I'm still convinced Ilus isn't a planet but a space ship/station. Maybe it was a planet at one time, but I think it was converted into a ship/station by the Builders using the protomolecule. The volcanic islands (like the one that overheated and exploded), I believe, are its engines/fusion drives.
“That atmosphere is waay high”
Pat I don’t know what you mean, but I get what your meaning is lol
16:36 It's simple as 1-2-3-4. To cut hydraulics to the door, you gotta get up to get down.
I always found it strange that Bobbie would ask if he served considering Mars has conscription and she literally says "all martians serve" during the peace conference on earth. So I'd assume only people with medical or other exceptions wouldn't serve.
Remember that The Investigator has been "flipping switches" since the Rocinante entered orbit. Nothing appears to be directed by an intelligence. Just like when you have a power-surge and afterward you computer reboots. Nothing intelligent there, just action/reaction.
15:20 No you wouldnt.. and there was enought nuclear tests even in US continental soil to prove that
all of the planets were meant to be 'habitable' for humans.
You got alien drones floating above you haha.
Hoo boy, the stuff that'll go down in that structure! Can't wait for all of you to see it!
BTW, I don't know if you guys have found this yet, but apparently on UA-cam someone posted a film called "Gozāresh (The Report)", that was made in Iran back in 1977; a year or so before the Islamic Revolution occurred. Shoreh Agdashloo (Chrisjen) is in it in a supporting role as a young wife to the lead character (she was about 25 at the time). This was apparently the last film she made in Iran before emigrating to the UK soon after. Here's a link to the whole movie, which is apparently considered one of the best films to come out of Iran in the past 50 years. If you don't have time to see the whole thing and just want to see young Shoreh, go to the video's fourteen-minute mark.
ua-cam.com/video/d2OTZg7suVQ/v-deo.html
I think the whole planet has been terraformed into some kind of machine - for what purpose I have no idea - but I took it to be that it was so old and had been so dormant for so long (the exobiologist said something about 3 phases of life x the builders, the planet's new ecosystem over thousands of years, and now humans x so it's hella old!) and that electrical lightning triggered by miller/holden restarted 3 planetwide power reactors of some sort, but they were so old and degraded that one overloaded and exploded, causing the protomolechule/alien tech to enact some kind of anti-fusion field to prevent the explosion spreading and from the other two from exploding too. Wondering if it was ever explained in the book?
Very little detail is given in the book, but a little more than the series. I totally agree with your idea though. I had pretty much the same idea a few days after I finished watching this season. I think the answer to the "what purpose" is shown in the last two episodes. It would give a great reason for the war the proto-builders lost.
Anyone knows the name of the music playing in the background, when Bobbie is at the club with Esai and LeeLee, planning their next project? I've looked high and low but haven't found it......
I have seen the whole season on two days i loved it and whata com8ng next is what happened we need in this show
Grinding in space. Would it cause sparks?
Sparks from grinding are incandescent tiny pieces of metal that glow because of the heat. So yeah, grinding would still cause sparks. In low gravity as in Mars, they'd still fall to the ground as they do on Earth, in space, they'd just float.
Yes. They’d take longer to cool too without air to bleed the heat off into.
Micky is just like I know what’s going to happen. 😂
Nahids hair is majestic
Mars is going the same way that Russia went after the dissolution of the USSR.
Remember those 13 moons?
When are you guys going to watch Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back? You're killing me making me wait.
why mike put pillow on his trunk?
So, this season starts out as, basically, a Western, The setup, in fact, comes straight out of the classic Sergio Leone film, A Fistful of Dollars.
However, with this episode, the feuding frontier factions plot-line from classic Western movies comes completely off the rails.
That's because the authors know the science, and the show-runners care enough to keep the science intact.
What happens when a bunch of completely unprepared settlers arrive on a planet that has evolved life with biochemistry largely compatible with human biology?
It's not the local equivalents of dinosaurs and cave-lions you'd have to worry about. The kinda guns these guys pack can take care of those, easy.
Instead, you have to worry about the local analogs of viruses, bacteria and fungi that can live inside people, to which humans have evolved no immunity.
Something starts growing inside people's eyes, or intestinal tracts, or lungs? Everybody gets sick, and a lot of people die, and that's even if a cure can be found pretty quickly.
That would take place even on any world with life that has similar biochemistry -- even one that didn't have the added complexity of the ancient, malfunctioning Builder technology.
Settlement on a world before anybody has a chance to study the risks posed by its biology -- heck, even before anybody has had a chance to start to investigate the native life -- is a particularly stupid and irresponsible way to commit slow suicide.
Avasarala is dead right about the stupidity of moving in too quickly, and she'd be right even without the presence of incomprehensible technology.|
The action, and politics, and conflicts caused by characters who have completely different motivations, along with the special effects, make this show great to watch. But if you know even a *little bit* about science -- even from watching UA-cam documentaries -- it becomes one of the best shows ever made.
Full stop.
My serotonin levels spike when I see Mikey in these reactions...... love yall
12:12 smooth
How many of you have experienced a Hurricane?
Murtry is just being pragmatic. It's harsh, but his decisions so far have been smart when looked at from his perspective. His job is to protect and save his people as a priority, not everyone. And if he has to make a choice, he would choose his people over the Belters because that's his job and some of them already committed an act of terrorism against the RCE shuttle that killed most of the Earthers (that had a legal charter from Earth and Mars while the Belters illegally ran a blockade!) sent to New Terra/Ilus for a scientific expedition. He's kind of a dick, but so far he hasn't done anything wrong really when you look at things from his point of view.
Also, incoming greenseers! Unlike GoT, the green sight here isn't as cool to have though...
Yes, I get that, but like Amos said, Murty liked killing those Belters as if he got off on it and wanted to do it again.
It's a machine world. In earlier episodes you can see it has 12 equidistant equal sized moons orbiting around it. It's one big megastructure.
the entire series been out for almost 2 months now and only on episode 6? what is going on?
Day 17 of asking the normies to watch jojo
Divine fuck Jojo no thank you
@@taylor099c8 lol
taylor099 C no pfp = no opinion
Holden picking up a random convenient stick on a planet with no trees is convenient
That wasn't a stick. That was a metal pole used to help get the massive amount of supplies down the hole. There were a large number of them.
Narutooo
Where's demon slayer