Newark Ohio Fire Department 2 Alarm Apartment Fire 30 S. Morris Part-2
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- On January 19, 2020 at 0141 hours NFD was dispatched to an apartment fire at 30 S. Morris Street. The building is a 50 x 60 quadplex with two apartments on the first floor and two apartments on the second floor. Battalion-1 arrived to find fire from one apartment on the first floor that was being driven by 20-30 mph wind with a wind chill of 10 degrees.
Crews initially achieved knock down of the initial apartment, however, fire spread to the second floor and the attic. A 2nd Alarm was requested and crews were pulled from the building and a defensive attack brought the fire under control. Two civilians in the second floor self evacuated prior to arrival of fire units. Thankfully no injuries at this fire, and the cause is under investigation.
Part 1 of this fire is here • Newark Ohio Fire Depar...
NFD was assisted by several mutual aid units
Heath FD - Rescue-51, Engine-52
Granville FD - Rescue-201, Engine-201
Newark Twp FD - Engine-541
Madison Twp FD - Rescue-101
Mary Ann FD - Engine-691
Hanover FD - Engine-802
Newton FD - Medic-391
Monroe FD - Quint-501
Glenford FD - Air-221
West Licking FD - Support-401
News coverage of the fire
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This is part 2.
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Thanks and Stay Safe.
My friend Stan Braxton sent a message and asked: "as I watched/listened I heard some of your challenges. What would you say was your most challenges; keys to success; and lessons learned from this fire?" I thought I would post my response over here for everyone to read.
That is a good question my friend. I would say there were 2 major things that caused significant challenges. The wind was vicious, and this is a balloon frame building. I’m sure the building had plenty of poke holes for plumbing or wiring that contributed to spread of the fire. So essentially, we had an apartment fire in an old building and it was like someone had set up a large PPV fan to help push the fire through the walls and little openings.
The other major problem was trying to get an all-clear on the structure. Most of us at NFD has been to this apartment more than once on EMS runs. We know the layout of building and know that there seems to be lots of people in and out of the building. So, I committed a lot of resources to searching the apartments. If someone could have met me when I first pulled up and told me everyone safely made it out of the building I could put more resources on fire attack and checking for extension. When I did my 360 not a single person gave any indication if everyone made it out or which was kind of unusual, almost eerie. Obviously lives take priority over property, so I put several crews on search expecting to find people that needed rescued.
As far as keys to success, I would say tracking resources and making sure that we had all firefighters accounted for. And knowing when to go defensive and assigning sector officers. When you have 16 units operating, you better make sure you don’t lose track of anybody (conducting PAR). And it is important to sector it out to maintain a good span of control.
Thank you for all you and your crews do, Chief. Is it possible nobody met you to report everyone out of the building because they sought shelter from the cold?
I had a feeling this was balloon frame construction. It’s almost impossible to put out a fire in a balloon frame building when the fire is in the walls.
When your Safety Officer said you should pull the plug (go defensive) you didn't even hesitate at all.
I LOVE that!! You have a great team there Chief!
It seemed there was a problem with water supply to the ladder. I would believe that training between different departments and a knowledge of what each department had equipment wise would have helped.
Loved the quick response on going defensive. Safety Officer made a great difficult call knowing the way this fire was acting, that interior operations was too dangerous. No fire or structure is more important than lives.
You must have been pulling your hair out trying to get that shower turned on.. for a minute I thought you were going to get out of the truck and go pull that hydrant line yourself.
Sometimes things don't always go as planned.
@@commandvisionfire I work with amateur radio emergency communications. Here in Michigan thats mostly severe weather related stuff (we don't get to play with 'canes and 'quakes), but one thing I've learned through classes, practice, and actual operations is that if everything is going as planned, then you're missing something.
Nerd Garage: "if everything is going as planned, then you're missing something." Thank you for sharing that. I can certainly see how that would apply to a fire.
My cousin was a volunteer fireman in his younger days (he's 74 years old now). I saw him recently at a family event and we talked about that. He reiterated what he always said: if you're waiting for fire to do what you're expecting it to do, you're going to wait a long time.
Kudos to the original S.O. for pulling the plug. Probably saved some brothers and sisters with that call!
I agree. He is a great officer that understand risk balance.
Wow. Seemed like everything was going well... until it wasn't. A heart-pounding incident.
Yep, lol. That's usually how it works. "Everything was going great and then....." Lol
You could see the bravo wall getting blacker and blacker, so you knew fire was burning inside and climbing up.
@DavidDecker We are completely ADDICTED to your videos! Thanks for all you do! Rob and Team MGM In Las Vegas
Thanks.
Thank you Chief for showing us this fire and the dangers you face everyday in fighting fires.
It's always tough to have to make the call to go defensive but no empty building is worth loosing lives over.
You are absolutely correct. Often we get locked in to the mindset that we have to go in and get it. But in reality, we have to consider the risks that we are taking. Thanks.
@Jason Bowman If they know there's no one in there, 100% involved they still have to put the fire totally out, if someone learns something while doing this so be it. Real training is done under far more controlled conditions.
@Jason Bowman We will almost always attempt to put the fire out. The rare exception is an abandon building that is scheduled for demolition. Extinguishing the fire helps preserve evidence for cause and origin investigation.
Jason Bowman: thanks for asking that. I was wondering the same thing.
My husband's family home was used for training purposes for a fire department. It was out in the country, so there wasn't a lot of chance that other structures were at risk. They did a controlled burn. Obviously, any family valuables were removed beforehand. It was an extremely old house, so no one was likely to want to buy it particularly when my husband's sister owned the land. She was the only family member who stayed out in that county, so they bought the land from my father-in-law.
I suspected that old farmhouse was also balloon construction. It had a massive attic where all kinds of stuff was stored.
The family was going to have the house demolished, so this worked out for them.
This is a good learning video....be aware of balloon construction. all the old farmhouses are built this way. The fire runs the walls and gets into the attic. An aggressive truck company is needed in this case. Open up the walls at the base on all floors. the fire will be running those stud spaces.
What a case study in proper resource management and fire operations. Great call by SO to go defensive !!
Great video! Incredible leadership Chief. This is the way it is supposed to be done.
Thanks.
@@commandvisionfire When you finally retire, you really should start your own business teaching departments across the country how to do the job RIGHT. ;)
This is how IC should be ran, period!
i AGREEE!!! Chief Decker is awesome!
I hope many others take lessons, because they need to...
I'm not perfect and there is certainly more than one way to put fire out. But that is why I post these videos. Hopefully we can all help each other become better at what we do. Thanks.
@@DTENTERTAINMENT2DAY Thanks.
@@commandvisionfire You may not be chief, but honestly, for what you had going on, that's as good as it gets. No yelling or screaming from anyone, great discipline, loved how the safety officer recognized the direction things were headed & the way that you expanded your command staff with the fire evolving into what it did. Can't save them all, but, great work on this and there is so much that so many in the fire service can learn from watching it. It was also very impressive to watch and listen to crew integrity holding together, with the early exception of the one rescue company on what I think was the initial PAR check. I can't think of anything that you could have done differently that would have given you a better outcome.
What forms, paperwork, software, apps do you use to keep track of everything?
This is a case study in logistics and resource management.
Here is a link to the tactical worksheet that I use. drive.google.com/open?id=0B-enuuMyFzuHeWt3NkZ4SWhLT2oxeDE0UVM5RkM4WVU2LS04
Mr Murphy responded, glad to see you took care of him. Great job as usual.
As he always does. LOL
I got to give it up to Chief Decker this guy is one hell of a fire chief and incident command officer.
I’m the original Midway movie , I believe it was Robert Mitchum playing a very senior Admiral who was placed in hospital due to a horrific rash.
One line he said essentially changed my life in my various leadership positions, to include 8 years as a USN Hospital Corpsman, in peace and War.
“...... When your’e in COMMAND,
COMMAND! “
Five words that are prophetic.
Every time you are the fire ground Chief , no matter how challenging ( like this fire ) , there is no doubt who is in command. You have the ability, education and experience to be more than a few steps ahead of the scene management. You also have an overarching, deep rooted advocacy for every single FF no matter if they are mutual aid. Safety in this dangerous , unpredictable profession remains priority one for you and yours. That is why your Firefighters will gladly follow you through the gates of hell. You lead by example. You are usually the first Officer on scene and the last to leave the scene. I learn so much from your stellar leadership and Newark Fire is blessed to have stellar employees from Dispatch , to the newest FF.
This was an extremely challenging fire ground yet you once again showed off your education , experience, love and respect for FF and the public . Newark FD has some truly amazing and gifted men and perhaps women.
Leaders are not just born .... they have been trained and mentored. I hope the FF’s know how blessed they are to have you in
COMMAND
Semper Fidelis Chief Decker
This is the Best Fire Department I've ever seen. Everyone working together and following commands. Great job Chief!
For another great department, look at Tulsa Oklahoma. They do a great job just like Newark Oh.
First lol. Great job Chief
This department is very lucky to have you. I wish I had command 1/2 of good as you. You sir are a professional and many companies need to learn from you.
Amen to that!!! If I had worked with someone of the caliber of Chief Decker, back in the day, I'd have probably served for 30 years instead of just 9... Having someone in command who REALLY knows what's what makes a difficult job just that much easier to do. I can honestly state that Newark Fire is a very well oiled, finely-tuned, fire-fighting machine! Training, experience and discipline make all the difference in the world!
Thank you. I have had some great mentors, and I work with a great team of firefighters that take the job seriously.
David Decker it is quite obvious , that despite being the Batallion Chief wearing a White Helmet , that your ego less ......there is NO I IN TEAM ! You Never cease to amaze me Chief Decker
@@mikepaz4870 I am but one person on a great team. We are all equally important, we just have different jobs to do. Truth be told, these guys don't need me to tell them how to put out the fire. They've done it enough that they know. My job is to tell them when it's time to get out. Otherwise they would stay in the fight until it was time to go off duty. I work with a great team.
David Decker Concur Chief Decker. One Time a possible drug lab blew in a Multi Building , Multi unit complicated apartment Complex. Complex FIRE , with exposurures , diffificult access , difficult Weather As per Mr Murphpy. You had a Multi System trauma / burn PT in extremis. Without any emothion you dispatched EMS Helo and As an aside Slipeed and mentioned you “ missed being a Flight Medic. “ It was a epiohany for me. For I realised you worked from the deck plates up. Im sure you have BAD bay and BAD moods. You are human
But what I say impresses me I Dont impress easily and a.m slow to compliment.
Semper Fidelis
Chief ,
Mike
Great work again Chief Decker
Thanks.
Chief I guess you use a “ command board “ at a fire like this. Could you make a video of how it works and the way you use it. I have never seen a video about this. Thank you.
I sure will. Technically I use a tactical worksheet, but it is imperative to use something to track all of the resources. Here is the link to my worksheet if you are interested. drive.google.com/open?id=0B-enuuMyFzuHeWt3NkZ4SWhLT2oxeDE0UVM5RkM4WVU2LS04
@@commandvisionfire That worksheet is outstanding!! I hope you don't mind, I would like to use it for my dept. I am chief of a very tiny dept. in Southeast Idaho. I am rebuilding it with zero budget and (thankfully) a nice Type 6 Brush truck and a recently donated Type 2 structure truck (that needs to be equipped, we got it "bare", but in good working order.)
Second, I have been watching your videos for some time now, and hope that someday my command ability reaches the calm and confident level you have show repeatedly.
All the best to you and your crews!
@@mxslick50 what are department used to do, when I was there, we designated a grant proposal writer to try and get grants to outfit with new equipment, etc.....not sure if things like that are still available, but worth a shot.....
@@mxslick50 What do you guys need? Anything a small department in Washington can do to help?
@@mxslick50 Feel free. If you need it in MS Word so you can edit it, just let me know.
Hearing the air horns gave me chills!
When they went defensive and he called for the airhorns I nearly lost it. I watch a variety of heavy equipment and emergency serivces videos to learn, but at pivotal moments like that I have to take a deep breath.
I agree. I was kind of holding my breath until we had everyone out. Then I felt like I told relax a little bit. This one was definitely a difficult fire to manage.
'Uhh sir, we don't have 5" '
'Well do you have 4"?'
'Uhh, yeah we got that....'
He definitely sounded annoyed at that
Amazing job, Chief! The dangers of balloon construction demonstrated in this video. Outstanding job of moving to defensive operations when extension to the attic was recognized by Safety.
Man, watching that aerial go into action! Whole roof on fire to steam and smoke in just a couple minutes. Awesome to see. :)
Best fire coverage anywhere
Hearing Rescue 51 sure takes me back when I was a volunteer FF and Emergency was my favorite TV program. Chief Decker, your videos are the best real world videos I've seen anywhere showing just how difficult your jobs are. To you, your crews, and to all the other firefighters everywhere, you have my most profound respect. God Bless You All!
Thank you for your videos. Thank you for the education.
Great job Chief. Old timber with balloon type construction will definitely climb the walls. It is great to watch pros at work.
Thanks.
Your the best battalion chief I’ve ever seen in my life , keep on keeping those boys safe and keep being the amazing person you are , thank you so much for a new video!
Great job, Chief. Excellent leadership and team effort. You guys are real pros.
Thanks for posting!
/Swedish fire Captain
Thank you sir. Stay safe over there.
17:30 Frustration couple minutes later in video dispatch to command do you need anything else, Chief stays quiet but has to be thinking (more water).
Happy New Year Chief! Great command as usual. Be safe. And is the 2nd floor still for rent? Just curious. :)
Thanks. And no, I don't think it is available now.
This was one fierce fire. Excellent leadership, especially when things got tough with fire spread and water issues. Not everyone would know or be willing to designate decision making to other officers. And it was clear other officers from mutual assist departments were familiar with their roles and procedures. Safety was clearly priority one as it needed to be. Now, if only NPD staffed more officers on the night shift. :-)
Well said sir
@@Greg_P611 Thank you.
So sad 4 apts gone to hell in a hand basket! 😭
The timing to go defensive was nearly perfect. A minute or two sooner would have been nice. The timing worked out fine and no one got hurt. That is the main thing no Fire fighters or others hurt. What was the cause or origin of this fire?
This one is still under investigation. So technically I cannot comment further on that until the investigation is complete. Sorry.
Chief Decker i have been a Volunteer Firefighter for 14 years and I have watched all your videos over the past week, I have to say I have been to multiple cities and seen paid departments respond and work and they don’t compare to you guys, I have to say that your men and mutual aid departments have awesome communications and team work together! By watching your videos it has gave me some great ideas and I have learnt from them, I have showed my chief and my fire commission these videos with ideas of using them as training, thank you and your men, great work, keep up the good work and stay safe out there brother!
Thanks. And thank you for volunteering. Stay safe.
Chief I have to tell you, I'm in total awe. You have the greatest bunch of folks working for you.
Been on several fire calls, some big, some not but your cool head and professionalism got the job done and more importantly, everyone went home.
Hats off to you sir!
Chief, Oak Hill P. D., Retired
Thank you sir. And thank you for your years of service. It is always good to hear about someone making it to the retirement shift and enjoying what they have earned.
Those tower guns are no joke. Impressive amount of water
Yep. That truck can flow 2,000 GPM when using both nozzles on the bucket.
Chief, you and your team of FF'ers know how to work together under all conditions, good and bad. This one kept me on the edge of my seat as the water/ pump issues popped up, but were overcome by skill. The acronym PAR is new to me on your videos. Does it mean, Personnel Account Report? Stay safe!
That is correct. It is to make sure all are accounted for.
Chief Decker, great job! This is how it should be done. Felt your frustration with the water supply... Organized and calm. Be safe!
Very impressed with this video. Great team work and management of an evolving fire. Also a very well controlled master stream off ladder1, it was staying in area and not wandering as I have often seen.
Chief Decker you and your crew are awesome who ever suggested going defensive has a good eye end good sense of danger I have started my favorite videos called the foregrounds thanks your videos should be a teaching aid continue to be blessed and safe to you and your crews anyone working for you who listens will go far in there career
I have watched both parts of this video. Although I am a civilian, I find myself concluding that this fire was definitely an exercise in Murphy's Law:
Everything is harder than it looks.
Everything takes longer than you think it will.
And if anything can go wrong, it will.
At the worst possible time.
Yes.
Every person in public eyes gets a lot of negative not much positive as a retired firefighter myself we risk our lives to save propety and lives sometimes it doesnt go well we are human like chief said every department does things different his videos are to help everyone to learn from it thats why we trained so much and did training fires when possible
Another great job from you and your team up there.
Airline pilots call it 'crew resource management'... and that's a skill you and your officers display beautifully on this incident. It's very clear that the firefighters have given full 'buy in' to process, and at rock bottom, everyone's singing from the same sheet of music.
Awesome work, Chief!
Appreciate the complete video
Newark Fire Dept. has a great fire ground protocol.
Thank You, hoping for new posts in the New Year. Your the best dept on You Tube. Get there and get her done.
Thanks.
That sounded like an extra stressful fire.
Oh hell yes. My head was hurting by the time we finished. Lol
Great job Chief, I was wondering how old the building was, my suspicions about balloon construction were confirmed. As always the NFD did a great job!
*EXCELLENT* !!!! NEAR PERFECT coordination and GREAT cooperations with ALL engines/rescues/ladder companies!! WELL DONE--Mr. David !!
Chief... I have watched your videos and I must say I’m very impressed in the way you keep your composure. I just took Chief of my volunteer department January 1st. I’ve been asked how I keep so calm on a fire ground..I tell them watch David Decker...lol
@Todd Gumlaw Same here, very small rural city in Idaho, last May. Having to rebuild the dept. from the ground up with zero budget and some other obstacles.
The Bman .. I know the struggle. We are thankful to have the support from the taxpayers and town representatives. We are a town of roughly 3000 in northeastern New York on the Canadian/Vermont border.
@@toddgumlaw7402 You have 100 times the population of my town...lol. WE have no tax revenue at the current level of population for the department. The mayor and I have been funding the dept. ourselves for the time being.
Correct me if I'm wrong Chief out of all your videos I have watched this seemed to be the most intense, unpredictable, and challenging fire. This thing was a fighter, the more you and your teams fought to control it, it decided to fight back. It's a blessing that none of your teams or occupants were hurt in the blaze. I would like to agree with your comment on one of the posts you made about challenges, because this incident did seem challenging at times. As always great video, great command and well done to those on the fire ground for staying safe. Thank you for sharing.
This was definitely one of the more mentally taxing fires that I have commanded. A lot of resources and a lot of activity. It was a struggle to keep up with everything.
@@commandvisionfire I can only imagine and understand from being a firefighter in my younger years. You handled it with professionalism and grace. Which is why I enjoy watching these videos of yours. Again thank you for sharing with us and stay safe.
I love fire truck videos send me more of your videos David Decker
Great work Brother, Not everyone goes as planed, But Your doing An awesome Job, Cheers Dizzy.
Thanks.
@@commandvisionfire Thank You Sir, For all you do for Others, and For sharing it with Us. Cheers Dizzy.
Chief, love your vids. Great resource and teaching tool. As a new captain i appreciate the chance to learn from your experiences
Thanks for taking the lead. Keep em safe brother.
Omg.True Heros..glad all firefighters stayed safe
Wow! Amazing work guys!
Why does the nozzle man knock the fire down on the second floor, turn off the water and watch the flames flare up again?
If you watch, there is a hose stream that sprays out at him. After he hit the fire he was able to see the attack team advancing toward that fire and he didn't want to laser them with a hose stream.
First time watching your videos I must say sir you did an outstanding job in command and thank you for your service in the fire industry
This Is A Great Fire Department And They Got A Great Team & working Together And Following Commands.
Thank you.
Very well ran command structure and enjoyed watching the videos. Curious about why you chose to use the windows to ventilate vs. vertical ventilation?
Good question. For the most part, I can accomplish horizontal (windows) ventilation safer and quicker than vertical (roof) ventilation. The only part of this building that didn't have windows was the common hallway. Ventilating the roof of this building would have been a real problem because it had a rain roof (a roof built over an old roof). So putting people on the roof to ventilate would not have helped at all.
Great communication procedures 👍
Chief as we watched your video some questions were raised by my department. Did interior crews start opening the walls and ceiling in the A B corner? If so when was that done? This being balloon frame construction it’s imperative to undress the building and see where the fire is going to travel. We didn’t notice that being a priority. Did we miss something or was it overlooked? And as far as a search why did it take so long to complete? What did you have for manpower on the initial alarm? And the second box? All these questions are just meant to help us see and understand what we couldn’t. Be safe
The initial alarm was 4 engines, 2 ladders, 2 medics and me. Two of the initial engines were mutual aid. While responding they upgraded this to a working fire which brings an additional two engines.
We are very familiar with this building as most of us have responded on EMS calls to this apartment building. We are also pretty familiar with balloon frame construction. A good portion of the city has homes that are over 100 years old. When I done my 360 nobody met with me to indicate that everyone was out which I thought was pretty odd. With that I had to assume the building was occupied. Without getting too deep into the weeds I fully expected to pull 3, 4, or even 5 people out of this building. When previously here there just seemed to be a lot of activity in and out of the building. So with that in mind, I committed an overabundance of resources to searching the uninvolved apartments.
On a typical balloon frame home we pretty much automatically put an attack line on the fire with a back up line. Then we send a third line in usually to the second floor to cut off the fire spreading up the walls. This was a completely different animal. While trying to search for victims, crews was starting to have fire suddenly pop up in various areas on the second floor. I would say that is result of the wind pushing the fire pretty hard. So instead of the normal fire spread we were fighting a wind driven fire in a balloon frame apartment building. And obviously, well behind the eight ball when I pulled up.
If I had to do it over again I can't say that I would change too much. Attack the fire, focus on trying to get a primary search given the building and known history. Then work on trying to cut off fire spread.
There is a fair amount of activity going on that is out of camera view. For instance crews going up the back stairwell to get to the second floor. We also has a ladder crew on the roof opening up, but all that really done was confirm that we had fire in the attic pretty quick. We had crews in the fire apartment and the front porch pulling ceiling but fire had already made it well into the second floor. One of the captains searching the second floor said a room that he was searching looked like it had orange neon lights all along the baseboard as he was searching due to fire spreading so quickly.
Once we finally had an all clear for occupants my safety officer felt that fire had spread to numerous area creating a risk that outweighed the reward. And I think that is the most important part. We like to get inside and fight fire just like most, but as equally important is knowing when the risks outweigh the reward. In this case we had a 4 unit apartment building with one unit completely involved in fire. Plus fire has spread to several rooms on the second floor as well as the attic. As my captain said over the radio "it was time to pull the plug." We were taking a tremendous risk for was it ultimately going to be a parking lot.
I would be more that happy to chat if you have more questions (or anything I can do to be more helpful) Feel free to shoot me an email and I'll forward you my phone number. I hope this helps. I think it goes without saying, it is hard to grasp the gravity of the entire situation just by the video.
Stay safe.
David Decker thanks for the reply Chief. You painted a picture for me that could only be better had I been there.
That multi-story ballon construction will make a ground floor working fire into an immediate attic fire, racing up the open wall raceways...
I love watching a well conducted operation. My compliments to you Chief, and to all the personnel involved in this incident. Balloon construction can make for a tough job. I experienced my share of it serving thirty years on my local department here in New Hampshire.
Thanks.
Was this fire one of the 5 suspected of being a sting of arsons?
I believe this fire was ruled undetermined if I remember correctly.
Great JOB!!👍
Wow, that one turned nasty real quick, and it certainly didn't help that winter decided to come back to Ohio yesterday with high winds to boot. As always your calm demeaner and leadership skills got the job done. Were you by chance in the military prior to firefighting?
I was not. I was sworn into Newark Fire Department at the age of 19. I am approaching year 30, and it has been a great journey.
What was the cause of this fire? I heard one of the guys say the place was full of junk did that play a role in the fire spreading? Thanks for the video. I always learn something new.
The cause is still under investigation. I will try to update when a final ruling is given.
Thank you so much for another great operation.
Very sad 😥😢🙏 and hard time for the residents that occupied the building. Thoughts and prayers 🙏😢 🙏. We are about to investigate how and why the fire started.
thank you for having GREAT audio on this viddy.... i understnd a little more better now stay safe . be well; Shalom
Another unbelievable job by the fine members of NFD and their MA departments. Of course Chief Decker must be praised for his amazing scene management and tactical decisions. Kudos for the decision to go defensive at the time they did....probably a life saving strategy at that point in a wind driven, complicated fire.
Deck Gun Open Up at 20:36! Cool Video Chief!
Thanks.
@@commandvisionfire You Welcome!
Another great training video.
You'll be looking at this one for a long time,won't you. You're amazing at grace under pressure.
If all the Chiefs worked and lead the command like this we would lose hardly any firefighters. Nice job Chief Decker.
Chief,, I'm curious what started that inferno? So bad upon arrival already. Any info? Electric heaters?
Great job chief
Thanks.
This was a tough one. I have watched so many Decker videos (all of them, I think), that I feel an emotional connection to Chief Decker and his crews. (I am not connected to firefighting in any way). But I could hear the frustration in his voice building minute by minute, and felt for him, realizing this one was going to be lost. Weather issues, equipment problems, water supply issues, etc.
Sometimes everything go's against you but you stay in the fight. But don't risk people. Sounds like everybody was OK, near as I could tell. But fascinating to hear Chief Decker start splitting up command as things started going south. Mr. Decker is as good as any Chief in the country, and better than the vast majority, but even he can get overwhelmed by all the unforeseen things that can conspire. He kept his control when other commands would have lost their shit.
Mr. Decker, I speak for all of us who watch you and all who comment---we admire you and your group, we pray for your continued safety and success, even though I guess you are now retired.
Best to you, Happy Holiday's.
from Minneapolis December 1-2023
did it start snowing at the end? 😂 looked like the camera slowly focused on the water
Well done David with all of the challenges a job well done. This fire reminds me of a fire we had years ago where we thought fire was out and started up a positive pressure fan to clear remaining smoke out and found out the hard way there was a crawl space between apartments and suddenly had firefighters blown out doors and crawling out of windows. I'm just thankful none of our firefighters were seriously hurt.
WoW. Great Job to all involved that was Awesome part one and part two. Chief Sir I only know one other Chief that could have conducted command as Great as you did there Battalion Chief Curt Isakson here in Pensacola Florida with Escambia County Fire Rescue and County Fire Tactics that was Amazing Sir and also to see how much of the structure that was still left at the end and no exposures damaged. Great Job Brothers and Sisters.
Ballon frames are the worst , chasing fire 🔥, great job .
Be still my heart! So thankful for another David Decker fire video. Since the last video I learned what a "cockloft" was. Am I correct that is how the fire spread up to the attic so quickly? I heard one of your men mention fire in the cockloft. I always learn so much from watching your teams working. Thanks Mr. Decker for setting the bar so high by example . Great job by the firefighters! Looking forward to another video soon. May God bless all of you heroes who work so hard to keep us safe!!
@Shelby McCoy - there's mention by Chief Decker and others of this being 'balloon construction'. When you see all the windows on each floor lining up directly with the ones below/above precisely, and it's an older building, that's a pretty good indication that this is what you're dealing with. In this type of construction, the space between the the studs goes from bottom to top with no barriers at the 2nd floor, so, that's a void space for fire to be able to travel rapidly up or down, rapidly. If the fire starts on the first floor, as it did here, and gets that much of a head start, as witnessed by the fire literally blowing out of multiple windows on arrival, you're almost guaranteed to be chasing it for a while.
Luke H. Thanks for your reply. If you listen to the transmission right after they went defensive a firefighter comes to David and tells him there is a part of the roof he can't see but there's fire there and he refers to the cockloft. I misunderstood what he said the first time but it challenged me to learn more.
The Balloon Frame construction and the wind was the dominating factors. Just couldn't seem to get ahead of the fire.
Once you were able to get the tower unit charged it kick some butt. Strong winds are not a firefighter friend
Chicago here David, I am amazed at the fine job that you and your firefighting crews do, Including all the other surrounding towns and villages that come to your assistance with mutual aid units and I am sure you do the same thing for them. I tend to only watch a couple of different fire departments when it comes to fires, as there are not too many videos for different fires in Chicago. I usually watch yours and I also watch THEMAJESTIRIUM1 who does an outstanding job filming New York firefighters and all surrounding suburbs within 100 miles of New York City. The men & women of firefighting companies are the real HEROS of America, along with other first responders and of course, our Armed Forces. I wish you and your men & women of the Newark Fire Department nothing but the best and I pray that you still healthy and safe throughout the year. God Bless each and every single one of you!
Thanks. And good to hear from someone in the Windy City. I am going to have to check out THEMAJESTIRIUM1 channel. I'm always looking for some good video to use for training.
David, THEMAJESTIRIUM1 is an everyday joe like myself who has high respect for our firefighters, He has taken on the role of filming New York Firefighters and what they do for that city. He also films within 100 miles or a bit more to get those videos to everyone who is interested in them. He is a Taxi Driver by trade, and a large selection of people from different walks of life watch them Including on the job firefighters and retired firefighters. His name is John and he always gets the best angle possible. David as I said I live in Chicago, I am also just an everyday joe who has the same high respect for firefighters as does THEMAJESTIRIUM! and love to see you beat back The Red Flame. Anthony G. Signing off. God Bless you all.
Solid all hands fire here. Its tough keeping fire out of the attic on these old balloon frame houses.
David Decker This is Princess Undertaker You sounded upset but you really did a good Job Great Job sir!
Great video and communication chief a few other fire departments could learn a lot from you and your teams
All things considered, good stop...
Using the airhorns for an evac signal is such an elegant solution. You could think of so many ways to try to tell everyone in a given area "get out of the building and get accounted for", but any little gadget could be forgotten or damaged. But hey, you've got these great big powerful apparatus airhorns that aren't used for anything else on the fire ground, shouldn't get damaged in the fire, and produce a very distinctive signal - it's such a simple and elegant way to get everyone's attention and have an unambiguous signal that it's time to go.
I Keep thinking of lessons learnt at Dr Rich Gasaway presentation being put into practise…. Thank you for the masterclass across these videos
Wow! Talk about drawbacks! Balloon framing (no doubt no firestops), High winds, and apparent water problems. The bugaboos of fire departments all over. Glad no one was hurt! Stay safe people!
Yep. Definitely a challenging fire. Thanks.
I want to say great job considering the difficult hand you were dealt on this fire. Even with the diffculries of construction, weather, layout. As well as the difficulties in getting the supply line to Ladder 1, definitely hearing your frustration. Sure some training was in order for sure. But great job.
Thanks.
Did you actually do a search yourself with just a coat and helmet on ? There are gods of this world who wouldnt try that ! God Bless you !
This may be a bad question but, do you guys not use tankers and portable pools for extra water?
And wonderful video as always sir. Love watching them and listening to the radio traffic.
Shouldn't need it with city water supply of hydrants.
We do not. We have hydrant throughout the city, with most having 100+psi on them. The first hydrant we tagged was on a small main so we were only getting about 680 GPM from it.
Living in Parma, we have an awesome crew. Something I'd expect in a major suburb. You do an excellent job with the resources you have. The town should be proud to have you and your people serving. What towns/cities serve as mutual aid for you? I know Parma uses surrounding cities depending on fire location. Do you have a primary city/town you call on?
We regularly use Heath and Granville. That have paid staff 24/7. Next would be Newark Township, Newton Township and Madison Township.
God bless our first responders thank you for your service
It's interesting, the camera worked great for about 45 minutes then decided, "enought focusing on the fire, I think I'm going to focus on windshield dirt now."
I noticed that too.