The Benefits of Using a Leaf Shutter: Ask David Bergman
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Today's question: ""What are the benefits of using a leaf shutter system in outdoor flash photography - especially when trying to overpower the sun?""
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The Fujifilm X100 series (APSC cameras) have a leaf shutter
That’s one feature (among many) that makes the x100 a very special camera.
I love how knowledgeable David is. Thanks for the tips, as always!
I learned two things I'd never have known about my own gear in just minutes!
Do more about medium format please.
Thanks vom "Andy S." for answering my question. Well done.
Andreas Stolten Thanks for asking!
I was thinking of selling my Pentax 645 leaf shutter lenses, but now I think I will be keeping them and experimenting with their capabilities.
S Burgos Have fun!
Thanks for the explanation 👍
Great video. Still can't afford a leaf shutter but I learned something new about the pocket wizard III. Thank you for your time and work.
Gilbert Henri that’s what rentals are for! And yea - pretty cool hidden feature in the PW.
You can get x100 or rx1
Question - could you work with ND filters and keep that lower shutter speed?
Well explained David. Definitely the NYC skyline bests NJ.
Peter Lemke I live in NYC but made the trek across the Hudson because I love that view of my town. :)
@@DavidBergmanPhoto Arguably the best city skyline in the world. Hong Kong and Shanghai are spectacular as well. Love the view from Brooklyn Bridge Park.
Wow great vid David
Thanks David. Very clear.
At last - I know the advantage of the FP shutter! :-)
Thank you sir..
7:38 - can we talk about how classy vintage that photo is? Nicely done, Bergman!
Point & shoot & bridge cameras have leaf shutters also.
I don't think, Who Have Hasselblad, Don't Have HSS Flash 🤔.
But Really Helpful topic For Me At least ( i Hope We could Get Leaf Shutter in Full Frame & APS-C Cameras As Well) .🤞
Praveen Kumar fuji x100
Fuji x100 series and sony rx1 series. Your hope had already been fulfilled ages ago
Many many cameras have a leaf shutter.
My old Yashica Electro 35 and Minolta Alpha 7xi.
Most P&S cameras have leaf shutter as well.
Leaf shutter isn't inherently better or worse than focal plane shutter. It's just a different design.
Lol @ pocket wizards
didnt know that about leaf shutters though.
the Fuji X-H1 is looking more appealing now
X-H1 has a focal-plane shutter. But it does have HSS.
The Fuji x100 series has the leaf shutter
Great vid.
XLNT video on Leaf shutter lenses and also the Pocket Wizards. Sure wish you could do a similar video with a Mamiya RB67 with NO hot shoe?? Thanks
Awesome! So, with the new Sony Sony a9 III, which breaks ground with the new global shutter and can sync up to 1/80,000th (yes, you read that right) of a second, I guess we can all sell our leaf shutter lenses and still get the benefits of wide open apertures with normal lenses?
This is an awesome video. I have cheated and used my Fujifilm x100f (leaf shutter) to get higher shutter speeds. Of course, that is only if you don't want to engage the ND filters or if they can't push your shutter speed down far enough. Follow up question for the video: what are the drawbacks of using ND filters? Autofocus? Image quality from light loss?
That’s I was thinking of, just put a nd8 and you're good... af works great with it and nowadays with Evf you still can see what you’re photographing but the down side is you’ll need more flash power output than with a leaf shutter as the nd filter reduce the whole exposure not only the background exposure like the shutter speed only
Yea it’s tough to shoot optically with a ND but not such a big deal with EVF. More importantly, as Gregory said, you can’t change the ratio of foreground to background with an ND. So you can’t darken the sky unless you have a lot of flash power to compensate.
At 4:15 you state the lens has a focal plane shutter. I haven’t heard of such a lens.
he clearly meant leaf shutter.
7:52.
🙂
This is why i bought a Fuji x100t
Would be nice if you would have shown a shot taken at say 1/4000. Leaf shutters are nice but they also have a limitation, their max shutter speed. The more expensive ones only go 1/2000. Also your strobe's flash duration comes into play.
Recent version rx1 and x100 can do 1/4000 though
True that many medium format cameras can’t shoot as fast as modern DSLRs. I still occasionally play around with my old hasselblad 500 c/m and it only goes to 1/500! That’s why I rented this body for the video so I could get to 1/2000. The wizards only go to 1/1600 and I think the only way to trigger faster than that would be to hard wire directly into the flash.
@@DavidBergmanPhoto I just used my Yashica Mat 124G with a strobe. 1/500 was fast enough and it is a joy using these old cameras with modern technology.
But as the power setting on the flash is reduced, its duration is also reduced. Each flash will differ but research can come up with a speed.
The question is whats flash trigger can we use for supporting LS system...in market alot of trigger lro kr advance but for HSS syste..i dont find for support of LS 🙏🏿
In order to shoot above 1/500th all you have to is turn off groups, say an ancient prayer to the photo gods, and then hit A B A C A B B on your snes controller.
Don't forget about up, down, up, down, left, right, left ;)
I should know the answer to this but I do not. With the EOS R, if I use the silent digital shutter mode what type of shutter is it using. Could that be used to emulate the effect of a leaf shutter. Can you eve use this mode with flash? I have no idea and I have never heard it mentioned or covered anywhere. JRS
John Spurr with silent mode you cannot use flash with the R.. it's one of the first things I tried, hoping to overcome the sync speed, but you cannot use it in silent mode 😭
As far as I know, digital silent shutter can never be used in flash photography, This is due to very much longer readout time than flash duration.
Andreas Stolten correct.
Will ND filter make focal plane shutter camera possible to do that?
If youbdont shoot flash, any other benefit to use leaf shutter?
Hi David. It would be great and helpful, if you could demonstrate back lighting someone without the model being silhouetted. I have and happy to use 2 speedlights if need be. Could you also explain the settings used. Hoping my request will be successful. Regards.
Dave Vowles please submit your questions at www.AskDavidBergman.com and I’ll try to do a video about it!
Can you explain why did you need to adjust the speed light 3 stops down? I understand the need of adjusting down the power of light when using a wider aperture, but why 3 stops? Is it because going from f8 to f3.2 is approximately 3 stops?
Correct. f/2.8 >> f/4 >> f/5.6 >> f/8 would be 3 full stops down, so going from f/3.2 to f/8 is 2 2/3 stops.
if you do the math, it’s actually slightly less than three stops.
Edwin Lam Exactly. And I misspoke when I said I was shooting at 1/4 power. Technically I was a third above 1/8 power to match the exact distance from 3.2 to f/8 (just under 3 stops).
@@enduraman1 I did, that's why I said approximately. Thank you.
@@DavidBergmanPhoto Thank you! Keep up with the great videos!
IMO there are other advantages to the old leaf shutter film cameras. They are quiet, reliable, and easy to repair
Pentax 6x7!!!!!!.Rolleiflex!!!.
BECAUSE NATURE!
All bout them leafs!
All that for a little difference in the background bokeh, come on Dave hahaha just joking, great video as always.
phynx2006 It would have been more dramatic on a sunny day when I went from f/22 to f/3.2. 😜
Plus by increasing the output of the flash and increasing the aperture, you could make the background look like it was super dark... much more ways to be creative.
David, thanks for the info. Near the end of the video you seem to suggest that using a speedlight at 1/4 power outdoors instead of a big strobe is somehow the result of the leaf shutter setup. I don`t see the logic. The strobe power you need is due to the ambient light. Having a leaf shutter means you can shoot at wider apertures because you are cutting light out with a faster shutter, which you did mention. The only other advantage would be if shooting fast action since 1/1600 for overall freeze time is better than 1/250. Again, I don`t see how using a leaf shutter would mean you can use less strobe power in a given continuous light situation.
Because I could shoot at a faster shutter speed (1/1600 vs. 1/250 in this case) at the same aperture, I'm essentially darkening my ambient light nearly 3 stops. So I can use much less strobe power to match that ambient. With high speed sync, I wouldn't get the full amount of light from my strobe, so I'd have to significantly increase the power to match the ambient. Make sense?
I see, you are comparing it to high speed sync operation of a flash. Yes high speed sync i avoid since there is no power. Now it makes sense. Thanks
@@jaym5938 Would optical triggering be an option (smal flash on camera triggering a second slave flash (OCF) by means of an optical sensor)?
I think this is an incomplete video, it leaves you with the impression that you can only get a leaf shutter using medium format. My old panasonic fz 200 has one and lot of advanced bridge cameras have them plus Panasonic's micro 4/3 and a lot more that are not $10000 plus camera's.
joe yeti I’m pretty careful to say “most” or “generally speaking.” I never said it’s the only way, but it would be impossible for me to list every camera that has a leaf shutter in it.
You’re not overpowering the sun, you’re underexposing ambient light…
ND filters are your friend. Doesn't save on the power tho.
Patrick Taylor Exactly. You’ll still have power issues - especially on a sunny day. You could never get away with a single speedlite at 1/8 power in a giant modifier more than a few inches away. On an overcast day, ND is an option, although i wouldn’t want to shoot with an optical viewfinder through an ND because you can barely see anything.
Instead of investing $50,000 in a medium format camera you could buy a $200 high-quality ND filter for your DSLR camera and shoot at a wide open aperture and low flashpower setting the same as with the medium format camera. As a result, you save $49,800.
Or you can just play around with x100 series or rx1 series
ND is a good option in some cases because it will allow you to shoot at a wider aperture. But you can’t change the ratio of foreground to background without cranking up the power of your flash. Even shooting full power, you may not have enough power to darken the skyline on a sunny day. A leaf shutter allows me to use a single speedlite in a giant modifier at 1/8 power.
But you still had to use high speed flash sync tho.😕
Joshua J Lewis No I didn’t. HSS is a specific mode than changes the way the flash operates. This was regular flash but, because of the leaf shutter, it’s able to sync at any shutter speed.
@@DavidBergmanPhoto Thank you for taking time to explain Leaf shutter to me.
A lot easier to do this with a Godox AD200 and X-pro trigger using HSS.
krbenoit Not sure if it’s easier, although definitely less expensive. :) But as I said in the video, there are some limitations with HSS. If it works for your particular situation, than do it! Right tool for the job...
Pocket wizards...is this 1992?
LOL
Woody O'Neal I have about a dozen of them and they’re rock solid. I use PWs primarily to trigger remote cameras and have fired them without fail from the other end of a football stadium. I wouldn’t trust that to any other brand. :)
@@DavidBergmanPhoto Exactly! Same here!