@@Alice-Efe Hey Alice, I bought Atlas and the sound quality is absolutely stunning! Next time I'd be willing to pay a lot more money if you do something like this but with presets for Pigments, Serum or whatever synth is used by many of us because for me the main challenge is to understand how you build those layers. Love your work :)
@@Redemption808 Thank you! I will probably do something like that in the close future. Main problem with this one was I used a lot of external gear (not that it matter so much but I was thinking it could be nice for the people qho bought it). So it wasnt possible to include project files. But next time, I will probably just use pigments to make them all with Ableton FX so you have also project files.
For anyone trying to do this in Vital, it's a little different - you have to leave phase randomization at zero and assign the RAND key modulator to the phase of both OSCs, at 100%. (not Rand1 or Rand2, it's the RAND in the lower right corner). Everything else is the same, except there's no shortcut to remove the fundamental so you have to do it by hand (2nd partial from the far left on the top row of the wavetable editor, drag it to zero) Apparently Vital doesn't synchronize phase randomization between OSCs like Serum does, so you get inconsistent phase coherence on each note (aka phasey/weak/inconsistent bass) unless you do it this way - but this method produces the exact same results. This video was a total game changer for me, thank you so much Alice!🤩
hi thanks so much for this, i don't have serum. just to confirm, do you set phase to 0 and then assign phase of both oscillators to RAND at 100% modulation? or do you leave it at 180 phase and then make the modulation bipolar? or does it not matter... my guess is it doesn't matter, as the reason you're doing this is just to make sure both oscillators are at the same phase at all times so we don't get phase cancellation whilst maintaining the panned bass? thank you:))
@@EPHEM11To get this effect, just leave one oscillator's phase at 0 and then tweak the other oscillator's phase until you find a sweet spot where the 2 oscillators sum together in a way you are happy with for the song. As long as RAND is modulating the phase of both oscillators by the same amount, the phase coherency will stay the same from note to note and you'll get a consistent sound. If you leave them both at zero, they will always be the same and won't make a stereo sound, so it's necessary to change the phase of one of the oscillators
@@Rzn8B58 The fundamental isn't necessarily always going to be the tallest column in the wavetable editor, but it will always be the 2nd column from the far-left, in the upper harmonic editor (the column on the far left is volume - I'm not sure why they designed it this way) - just remove that/turn it down to zero and you'll be left with all the harmonics but no fundamental. Personally I like to use a 2nd instance of Vital to have a sine wave sub on a dedicated track
Thanks @Alice-Efe, this sounds amazing! I'm relatively new to Serum, so it's a bit tricky for me to recreate the bass sound without a little more explanation on how you have your envelopes set up and how they are modulating the controls. Looking first at the Mrak bass, which sounds awesome. Can you drop a few bullet points in here about the synth setup that might help? Thank you!!
Great, as usual, thanks! Dumb question about the first one - we start off splitting out the bass to stereo, then spend a bunch of later steps trying to bring it back more mono. Why not just leave it more mono in the first place?
I’m guessing so that you are able to have more of the highs out in the stereo field for separation while leaving the core bass fundamental straight up the middle and not out of phase? That’s what I took from her vid… which seems to make perfect sense… and yet I know I will mess it up again and again anyway 😅
Go for feeling, leave mixing for later. Dont get stuck on anything too long. Leave the track alone for a while or do sound design, search for samples, keep moving.
Outstanding tip Just wanna know if there is a way of performing the first one in pigments as there is no pan knob on the oscillators Thanks a ton for your videos
Yeah I’m stuck in Pigments myself as that is my primary sound design tool (I’m a weirdo that never purchased Serum and went with Pigments / Vital / Zebra instead lol)… if you have found a good answer for a Pigments solution, please let us know 👍🏻
I love how you explain why a change is made, instead of just doing it without any context. Your tutorials are always great and I always learn. Thank you ❤
Hey Alice, I first learned how to complete the bass sound design by removing the fundamental from your previous video, but even then unison didn't always give the sound I wanted. This is a game changer :) Nice tips
Really nice explanation of how to separate out the bass sound on serum and removing the fundamentals 🙂 Helped me out with cleaning up a baseline i was working up on a track i'm playing around with at the moment, tvm!!
Nice vid! For sure, being "old school", i don't care refining at this level, since i get the right vibe of a track. I'm reading tips for Bass & Drums for 30 years or so, but most impressing was a guy who only pushed mono tracks on a 16 channel Mackie and some cheap FX. He just added room on a Microverb, did a "chorus" by copying samples in a Ensoniq sampler and distorted by simply pushing the gains. At the end he had all the controls at his fingertips and rocked the store so badly, i changed my style forever. I was 21 back then, now i'm 52. So, what's up UA-cam?😎
One more idea: The phase shift is basically a tiny delay between left and right. You can get something similar if you add a band splitter after the synth and add a Haas fx in the upper band(s) only
Random makes the sound more dynamic. Given that we want the "top" layer to be autentic and stereo. As we removed the fundemental from top layer and sub is already mono, there is really no need to make the top layer more static and robotic by taking away random.
Random makes the sound more dynamic. Given that we want the "top" layer to be autentic and stereo. As we removed the fundemental from top layer and sub is already mono, there is really no need to make the top layer more static and robotic by taking away random.
what do you mean with all together now ? the last work was on the pro midi track on serum with the shown settings......what other tracks else does one need to create the final result, there were 3 tracks at the end.....thanks for any explanation and thank you for this trick, appreciated it really !
with the first bass. the sub is ofc mono compatible but with the random phase still on and the waveforms out of phase and not completely hard panned left to right. Is the character off the bass which is mostly in the saw wave not gonna cancel out inconsistently when collapsing into mono? cuz the phase changes every note and the phase position is opposite of each other?
yes I find the same issue, this method is not effective at all. the results are too random. one effective way is to search for the sweet spot and just bounce it to audio :p
yo I found out how to achieve a good result. just take the same approach as in the tutorial, but make two separate tracks in your daw out of the process. one track for the sub oscillator and one for the saws in stereo :) the image in ozone is stable as fudge now
@@Alice-Efeplease don't stop. I just discovered your channel and was very impressed with this video. You packed a huge amount of very useful information into a short space of time, and I'm looking forward to learning lots more stuff from you. I have been somewhat stuck in a rock format for many years, but I'm finally allowing myself to go back to using electronic sounds as I did in the 1990s. I have a lot to catch up on, so if the rest of your videos are of this calibre I'm going to be looking at them for some time to come. One thing that confused me with this one, though, was the rolling bassline in the first example. The MIDI data showed alternating eighth-note octaves, but the rhythm of the sound didn't seem to match that. Was that the result of a dotted delay or something along those lines?
Awesome as all your content. But I have seen the remove fundamental tipp elsewhere. It can be used to keep focus on heavy unisono patches ... interestingly enough even Surge XT (free synth) has a WT of a saw with removed fundamental on board ... anyway, I enjoy your content. Sometimes these advertisement phrases "secret pro tipp" or "only here" that are used all over the internet make me go mehhh. Btw: I started to use the combo of ISOL8 (five band splitter) and PsyScope (free, beat synced oscilloscope), which I plug in to the bass band of ISOL8 to visually control kick and subbass level... it's free an thus can replace SubNinja...
Can it be this one: studio.ua-cam.com/users/shortsXsMn5Jo0wJY 😊 The unique thing in the video was not about removing fundementals but manual phase shifting 2 oscillators and panning them again manually and not using unison. I think that didnt come through well in the video, I should probably have made it more clear.
@@Alice-Efeprobably you're right. If it's for the phase shift then I might have missed the warning that you might end up canceling out when monoing if the delta is 180 degree in total. Anyways - I'm just adding "random" things that come to my mind ... your content is great!
you just saved me so much freakin time! i was literally trying to figure out how to not make my bass so scattered. You always coming through when i need it
OMG! You changed the way I use Serum forever thank you so much!! I always wondered how to get a bass wide but without the phasing issues... it was not the trick I expected from this video but it's the one I really needed!
Random makes the sound more dynamic. Given that we want the "top" layer to be autentic and stereo. As we removed the fundemental from top layer and sub is already mono, there is really no need to make the top layer more static and robotic by taking away random.
Most club and festival PA systems nowadays are all stereo. Long gone are the days when it was mono mono mono haha. Smartphones... everything is stereo nowadays. Although it's still good to put a high pass filter on your sides below 90/100 hz. It would just sound weird if your bass is popping out from the sides any lower than that unless that's your idea of course.
This great thanks…i don’t really wrap my mind around fundamentals yet but i get that you remove harmonic therefore creating more of unified pitch, meaning the same root note on different octave, is this right?
should only the bass be mono for the club? I'm struggling because my stuff loses it's magic in mono. I don't understand how you can have interesting stereo effects on pads, plucks in higher frequencies and have them safe for the club :(
Really cool, learned a lot. ^^ Thank you. There are a few songs, that i also find really interesting in how they got produced. Its beyond other sounds and it really makes we wonder how they could achieve that. One is Aurora (DJ IBON Remix) and the other is Mikkel Rev - Amneo. The second one is actually more interesting, because basically all of the instruments are so subtle but still give out everything that is required to make it a "sound" ^^. I find it unbelievable how everything adds up together. For me this is art. And the first one i find so interesting because it has crazy reverb effects. It sounds like there is an insane reverb over every single instrument, still the song never sounds too messy. And for whatever reason all those reverb effects dont come into each others way. Bass has reverb, kicks have reverb, hihats have reverb, BG noise has reverb. And everytime big amounts too. Its a mistery how those songs got produced. Maybe someone else picks up on my curiousity and talks about how those songs are made. Maybe just a few of the instruments. THat would be really cool ^^ PS: both songs shoud be listened to with headphones, theres an endless amount of subtle stuff in.
since you remove the fundamental from the wavetable, why not adding more unison voices into a one OSC with constant phase closed Randomization. and that would do super great. specially if you add some hyper and some multiband compressor from the Serum FX. but I get the Idea of showing off here on UA-cam, everyone keeps saying magic and super-secret tricks. while actually there's no such thing
let me say something you need to know: Your bass has a better image for mixing than Marks. That's it. You nailed it. That's why it is fundamental to study the basics of synth sound design! Perfect trick.
Hi Alice, i'm following your Channel long time. You've always very interesting and helpful content. You are getting more pro every time. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Love your channel ❤
As always, killer content. The precision sculpting of the synths is just amazing. I really loved when you called Ring Modulaion "trial and error" cause it's very relatable :D By the way, would be very interesting to see a video on RM in particular.
I don't know how to apply this with Pigments or my Prophet Rev2. Do they all support those functions with phase adaption and removing the fundamental? Can someone please explain for one of those two synths? Would be much appreciated :)
Would it be possible for you to show these same sounds in other plugins like Massive? Serum is great and all but not all of us use it. It would also be nice to see you form some of these sounds in DAWs like FruityLoops Producer edition which has it's own plethora of plugins which are capable of producing similar if not exact copies of these sounds.
very cool the pro part from the first base, i learend some new stuff, with the phase to bring one the sides, but isnt it better for the contro, to make the random level of the phase to zero?
are eq8 linear phase capable? ive been doing a little poking around about cutting bass without using linear phase EQs and even changed my project template to all pro q3 doing the cuts on the groups and i can tell a dif in the end phase results
Great tips... but just some advice, refrain from saying things like "i'm the first" to do something in the future. 😅 I've watched a LOT of masterclasses and tutorials over the years by those pros themselves, and none of them create bass lines like this (that I've seen) They're all very simple, but just very well executed. Generally if it's overly complicated, it's probably not the way to do it. But there's always room for new ways! And will be trying some of these methods out for sure!
I really like your videos (subscribed long ago 😇) and you have so much great knowledge that everyone can benefit from. I just wish that this focus on being "pro" would stop across all youtube music production videos. It make it seem like music is some kind of game or competition to get to the top. But of course it is so much more than that.
Thank you for this very instructive video Alice, as always ! I have a question for you : Do you think it would be possible to reproduce this technique with an Ableton stock synthesizer like Wavetable or Meld for example ? I have been following your channel for a very long time now and your content is always top notch quality, please keep it up
🌟Hey, if you're struggling with low-end, I might have something that could help!
Atlas - Low End Tools: www.mercurialtones.com/atlas-low-end-tools
You are such a good producer and have so much music knowledge.
Aww thank you! ❤🙏
@@Alice-Efe Hey Alice, I bought Atlas and the sound quality is absolutely stunning! Next time I'd be willing to pay a lot more money if you do something like this but with presets for Pigments, Serum or whatever synth is used by many of us because for me the main challenge is to understand how you build those layers. Love your work :)
@@Redemption808 Thank you!
I will probably do something like that in the close future. Main problem with this one was I used a lot of external gear (not that it matter so much but I was thinking it could be nice for the people qho bought it). So it wasnt possible to include project files.
But next time, I will probably just use pigments to make them all with Ableton FX so you have also project files.
@@Alice-Efe love to read this, much appreciated 🙂
For anyone trying to do this in Vital, it's a little different - you have to leave phase randomization at zero and assign the RAND key modulator to the phase of both OSCs, at 100%. (not Rand1 or Rand2, it's the RAND in the lower right corner). Everything else is the same, except there's no shortcut to remove the fundamental so you have to do it by hand (2nd partial from the far left on the top row of the wavetable editor, drag it to zero)
Apparently Vital doesn't synchronize phase randomization between OSCs like Serum does, so you get inconsistent phase coherence on each note (aka phasey/weak/inconsistent bass) unless you do it this way - but this method produces the exact same results.
This video was a total game changer for me, thank you so much Alice!🤩
hi thanks so much for this, i don't have serum. just to confirm, do you set phase to 0 and then assign phase of both oscillators to RAND at 100% modulation? or do you leave it at 180 phase and then make the modulation bipolar? or does it not matter...
my guess is it doesn't matter, as the reason you're doing this is just to make sure both oscillators are at the same phase at all times so we don't get phase cancellation whilst maintaining the panned bass?
thank you:))
So to remove the fundamental you're removing the tallest column in the wavetable editor and just leaving the harmonics?
@@EPHEM11To get this effect, just leave one oscillator's phase at 0 and then tweak the other oscillator's phase until you find a sweet spot where the 2 oscillators sum together in a way you are happy with for the song. As long as RAND is modulating the phase of both oscillators by the same amount, the phase coherency will stay the same from note to note and you'll get a consistent sound. If you leave them both at zero, they will always be the same and won't make a stereo sound, so it's necessary to change the phase of one of the oscillators
@@Rzn8B58 The fundamental isn't necessarily always going to be the tallest column in the wavetable editor, but it will always be the 2nd column from the far-left, in the upper harmonic editor (the column on the far left is volume - I'm not sure why they designed it this way) - just remove that/turn it down to zero and you'll be left with all the harmonics but no fundamental. Personally I like to use a 2nd instance of Vital to have a sine wave sub on a dedicated track
thank you, that's sort of what i ended up doing :))
Been making music for 30 years, ran a pro studio for 10 of those and never seen this before. Best music production tips on YT .
I have done this today exactly what you are doing and its been a game changer for me thanks so much for this ❤
Thanks @Alice-Efe, this sounds amazing! I'm relatively new to Serum, so it's a bit tricky for me to recreate the bass sound without a little more explanation on how you have your envelopes set up and how they are modulating the controls. Looking first at the Mrak bass, which sounds awesome. Can you drop a few bullet points in here about the synth setup that might help? Thank you!!
OMG FINALLY SOMEONE NAILED IT!!! I AM SO THANKFUL... YOU NAILED IT HERE! THANKS FOR SPREADING THE KNOWLEDGE
Great, as usual, thanks! Dumb question about the first one - we start off splitting out the bass to stereo, then spend a bunch of later steps trying to bring it back more mono. Why not just leave it more mono in the first place?
I’m guessing so that you are able to have more of the highs out in the stereo field for separation while leaving the core bass fundamental straight up the middle and not out of phase? That’s what I took from her vid… which seems to make perfect sense… and yet I know I will mess it up again and again anyway 😅
Bass is reason i give up every day
Honestly. You think this will be the easiest part of the project going in 😅
Go for feeling, leave mixing for later. Dont get stuck on anything too long. Leave the track alone for a while or do sound design, search for samples, keep moving.
Oh damn I feel you 😢
Kick too
😂
alice i doing it for 26 years and creating basslines nobody knows how
Haha aren't we all just bunch of people turning knobs and hoping for the best 😊✌
Outstanding tip
Just wanna know if there is a way of performing the first one in pigments as there is no pan knob on the oscillators
Thanks a ton for your videos
Yeah I’m stuck in Pigments myself as that is my primary sound design tool (I’m a weirdo that never purchased Serum and went with Pigments / Vital / Zebra instead lol)… if you have found a good answer for a Pigments solution, please let us know 👍🏻
I love how you explain why a change is made, instead of just doing it without any context. Your tutorials are always great and I always learn. Thank you ❤
Its so good to see you are still doing these tutorials. I cannot think of anyone else who has such great pro tips 😊
Thank you! I just like making them 😊
She is very educated producer and teacher, this sort of stuff is golddust for young producers just starting out
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Hey Alice, I first learned how to complete the bass sound design by removing the fundamental from your previous video, but even then unison didn't always give the sound I wanted. This is a game changer :) Nice tips
Thanks for the tip on how to make a solid, clean bassline with punch and not mush. simple and a way easier technique than i've heard from others.
Really nice explanation of how to separate out the bass sound on serum and removing the fundamentals 🙂 Helped me out with cleaning up a baseline i was working up on a track i'm playing around with at the moment, tvm!!
Nice vid! For sure, being "old school", i don't care refining at this level, since i get the right vibe of a track.
I'm reading tips for Bass & Drums for 30 years or so, but most impressing was a guy who only pushed mono tracks on a 16 channel Mackie and some cheap FX. He just added room on a Microverb, did a "chorus" by copying samples in a Ensoniq sampler and distorted by simply pushing the gains. At the end he had all the controls at his fingertips and rocked the store so badly, i changed my style forever. I was 21 back then, now i'm 52. So, what's up UA-cam?😎
One more idea: The phase shift is basically a tiny delay between left and right. You can get something similar if you add a band splitter after the synth and add a Haas fx in the upper band(s) only
Is there a reason you kept the random phase on ? I always turn it off on my bass because to me it usually seems cleaner
Random makes the sound more dynamic. Given that we want the "top" layer to be autentic and stereo.
As we removed the fundemental from top layer and sub is already mono, there is really no need to make the top layer more static and robotic by taking away random.
@@Alice-Efe That sounds like a good point, thank you 👍 I will give random another chance then 😂
Another excellent video. Absolutely one of the best synth bass theorists on all of you tube, Alice. I salute you.
awesome tutorial ! but i was wondering why did you not also turn down the random phase ?
good question
Same question here 👀
Random makes the sound more dynamic. Given that we want the "top" layer to be autentic and stereo.
As we removed the fundemental from top layer and sub is already mono, there is really no need to make the top layer more static and robotic by taking away random.
@@Alice-Efemakes sence - the random phase here is only for both upper layers and doesnt effect the fundamental - true!
ah i see thank you so much ! @@Alice-Efe
This is the best way to teach! Great explanation, good examples and how to remake them. Keep it onnnn
what do you mean with all together now ? the last work was on the pro midi track on serum with the shown settings......what other tracks else does one need to create the final result, there were 3 tracks at the end.....thanks for any explanation and thank you for this trick, appreciated it really !
wow I used to see your videos a long time ago, you've changed so much omg!!! I'm so happy for you, keep it up queen ❤❤
Welcome back and thank you! 😊 things are bit changed here ✌️
I'm always really impressed by the listening skills of great musicians like Alice, and their ability to break sounds down like this.
Alice :) !! are the basses of number2 ( Disco) in the Atlas pack ? thanks
Yes! 😊
i saw, number 9 , very nice !!@@Alice-Efe
with the first bass. the sub is ofc mono compatible but with the random phase still on and the waveforms out of phase and not completely hard panned left to right. Is the character off the bass which is mostly in the saw wave not gonna cancel out inconsistently when collapsing into mono? cuz the phase changes every note and the phase position is opposite of each other?
yes I find the same issue, this method is not effective at all. the results are too random. one effective way is to search for the sweet spot and just bounce it to audio :p
yo I found out how to achieve a good result. just take the same approach as in the tutorial, but make two separate tracks in your daw out of the process. one track for the sub oscillator and one for the saws in stereo :) the image in ozone is stable as fudge now
Muchas gracias Alice, siempre agregas ingredientes que nadie dice... exitos
Awesome video as always! Keep up the great work, you are a blessing to this community!
Thank you! I will do my best to keep posting. 😊
@@Alice-Efeplease don't stop. I just discovered your channel and was very impressed with this video. You packed a huge amount of very useful information into a short space of time, and I'm looking forward to learning lots more stuff from you. I have been somewhat stuck in a rock format for many years, but I'm finally allowing myself to go back to using electronic sounds as I did in the 1990s. I have a lot to catch up on, so if the rest of your videos are of this calibre I'm going to be looking at them for some time to come. One thing that confused me with this one, though, was the rolling bassline in the first example. The MIDI data showed alternating eighth-note octaves, but the rhythm of the sound didn't seem to match that. Was that the result of a dotted delay or something along those lines?
Awesome as all your content. But I have seen the remove fundamental tipp elsewhere. It can be used to keep focus on heavy unisono patches ... interestingly enough even Surge XT (free synth) has a WT of a saw with removed fundamental on board ... anyway, I enjoy your content. Sometimes these advertisement phrases "secret pro tipp" or "only here" that are used all over the internet make me go mehhh.
Btw: I started to use the combo of ISOL8 (five band splitter) and PsyScope (free, beat synced oscilloscope), which I plug in to the bass band of ISOL8 to visually control kick and subbass level... it's free an thus can replace SubNinja...
Can it be this one: studio.ua-cam.com/users/shortsXsMn5Jo0wJY 😊
The unique thing in the video was not about removing fundementals but manual phase shifting 2 oscillators and panning them again manually and not using unison. I think that didnt come through well in the video, I should probably have made it more clear.
@@Alice-Efeprobably you're right. If it's for the phase shift then I might have missed the warning that you might end up canceling out when monoing if the delta is 180 degree in total.
Anyways - I'm just adding "random" things that come to my mind ... your content is great!
I am watching videos for an long time, almost 20 years..and i am telling you, your tips are amazing❤
you just saved me so much freakin time! i was literally trying to figure out how to not make my bass so scattered. You always coming through when i need it
haha happy to help!
Harikasin. Emeklerin icin tesekkurler 🎉
Amazing, been wondering how to do this for many years, thank you
Simply perfect technique, works amazing! Thank you so much Alice!
OMG! You changed the way I use Serum forever thank you so much!! I always wondered how to get a bass wide but without the phasing issues... it was not the trick I expected from this video but it's the one I really needed!
Well dang… this finally explains bass the right way! Thank you for this!!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
How about lowering the Randomness of both waves in serum? Does this make a change in the final sound?
Random makes the sound more dynamic. Given that we want the "top" layer to be autentic and stereo.
As we removed the fundemental from top layer and sub is already mono, there is really no need to make the top layer more static and robotic by taking away random.
@@Alice-Efe makes sense…thanks Alice!
Sometimes i only look this video to feel at home and loved. You are so calm and this video changed , like you said, my Produktion life a lot ❤
That was nice, thanks!
hello can u tell me where can i find this serum vst please ?
here you go: xferrecords.com/products/serum/
Awesome video, thanks once again 🙌
Thanks Alice, you do the best tutorials! Keep up the great work.
Most club and festival PA systems nowadays are all stereo. Long gone are the days when it was mono mono mono haha. Smartphones... everything is stereo nowadays. Although it's still good to put a high pass filter on your sides below 90/100 hz. It would just sound weird if your bass is popping out from the sides any lower than that unless that's your idea of course.
This great thanks…i don’t really wrap my mind around fundamentals yet but i get that you remove harmonic therefore creating more of unified pitch, meaning the same root note on different octave, is this right?
Hi Alice! Im confused on the chain for the MRAK pro bass, is it set to mono? I'm not getting the same mono result on the imager! Thanks!
Great freaking video! Thank you so much. This solved the phasing issue I was having during mastering 🎉
should only the bass be mono for the club? I'm struggling because my stuff loses it's magic in mono. I don't understand how you can have interesting stereo effects on pads, plucks in higher frequencies and have them safe for the club :(
Only bass
Did you youse Ableton ?
Really cool, learned a lot. ^^ Thank you.
There are a few songs, that i also find really interesting in how they got produced. Its beyond other sounds and it really makes we wonder how they could achieve that.
One is Aurora (DJ IBON Remix) and the other is Mikkel Rev - Amneo.
The second one is actually more interesting, because basically all of the instruments are so subtle but still give out everything that is required to make it a "sound" ^^. I find it unbelievable how everything adds up together. For me this is art.
And the first one i find so interesting because it has crazy reverb effects. It sounds like there is an insane reverb over every single instrument, still the song never sounds too messy. And for whatever reason all those reverb effects dont come into each others way.
Bass has reverb, kicks have reverb, hihats have reverb, BG noise has reverb. And everytime big amounts too.
Its a mistery how those songs got produced.
Maybe someone else picks up on my curiousity and talks about how those songs are made. Maybe just a few of the instruments.
THat would be really cool ^^
PS: both songs shoud be listened to with headphones, theres an endless amount of subtle stuff in.
Great tip with the stereo bassline! Is there a reason why you leave the phase randomization on both osc on? :)
So many goods tips. Thankyou!
I often overlook the science of harmonics involved in music, great this information would give me many solutions
Thanks. Your tutorials are so helpful
thank you very much, really helpful ❤
Great B Line Tuition Acice Thankyou x
What if I don't have Serum to remove the fundamental? Can I use HP EQ?
since you remove the fundamental from the wavetable, why not adding more unison voices into a one OSC with constant phase closed Randomization. and that would do super great. specially if you add some hyper and some multiband compressor from the Serum FX.
but I get the Idea of showing off here on UA-cam, everyone keeps saying magic and super-secret tricks. while actually there's no such thing
I am new in music production. This is very usefull for me. Thank you
Another great vid! And thanks for all of your sharings - all of them are helping a lot!! You're doing so great - let the flow be with you!!!
let me say something you need to know: Your bass has a better image for mixing than Marks. That's it. You nailed it. That's why it is fundamental to study the basics of synth sound design! Perfect trick.
Wow, thanks!
Nice inspiration to improve my trance-producing skills. I like the way you do your youtube-channel. Rock on! 😎
Amazing tips. Thank you! ❤❤
Glad it was helpful!
Very very cool thanks allot!!!
love your enthusiasm :) great bass tips
Thanks a lot for the tips. Also, this video helped me come up with a cool idea for a bassline, thanks!
Hi Alice, i'm following your Channel long time. You've always very interesting and helpful content. You are getting more pro every time. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Love your channel ❤
As always, killer content. The precision sculpting of the synths is just amazing. I really loved when you called Ring Modulaion "trial and error" cause it's very relatable :D
By the way, would be very interesting to see a video on RM in particular.
Do you also have tutorials with only ableton stock plugins?
Damn I needed this 😩 thanks 🙏🔥
I appreciate this tip! Thank You so much!
I appreciate this, thank you!! Liked and subscribed!
Gracias Alice! Excelente data! Saludos desde Argentina
Hey There.
where did I find the Freeclip as you use in the processing for the Rhythm machine bass?
I don't know how to apply this with Pigments or my Prophet Rev2. Do they all support those functions with phase adaption and removing the fundamental? Can someone please explain for one of those two synths? Would be much appreciated :)
This is THE BEST video I have ever seen. You are my new BEST FRIEND! ❤❤❤❤
I can't seem to find that "Harsh" wavetable, where is that?
It's my fav bassline/track in recent years!
how would you do this with a hardware monophonic synth please ?
Great tutorial!
This is a big one! Will def rewatch this, so many helpful gems, thank you!
Second time is the charm 😊
Would it be possible for you to show these same sounds in other plugins like Massive? Serum is great and all but not all of us use it. It would also be nice to see you form some of these sounds in DAWs like FruityLoops Producer edition which has it's own plethora of plugins which are capable of producing similar if not exact copies of these sounds.
i mostly use the bottom notes of the chord progression, and side chaining to prevent it destroying the kick.
Does Shaperbox do the same as Xfer LFO Tool?
very cool the pro part from the first base, i learend some new stuff, with the phase to bring one the sides, but isnt it better for the contro, to make the random level of the phase to zero?
This video is gold! Also, your video editing is great. The hard work you put into it shows.
Great tips and video, thank you!
Where can I find that serum skin?!
It is on Mercurial Tones 😊
@@Alice-Efe thank you!!!
Huge thanks, this is amazing
are eq8 linear phase capable? ive been doing a little poking around about cutting bass without using linear phase EQs and even changed my project template to all pro q3 doing the cuts on the groups and i can tell a dif in the end phase results
awesome video!
Your 'how to' videos always leave me with a smile. So good.
Need more tutorials on mastering secrets of bass ❤
Hi Alice, what is the key of your kick @6:10
Great tips... but just some advice, refrain from saying things like "i'm the first" to do something in the future. 😅
I've watched a LOT of masterclasses and tutorials over the years by those pros themselves, and none of them create bass lines like this (that I've seen)
They're all very simple, but just very well executed. Generally if it's overly complicated, it's probably not the way to do it.
But there's always room for new ways! And will be trying some of these methods out for sure!
Good tutorial very detailed and well explained...nice one!
I really like your videos (subscribed long ago 😇) and you have so much great knowledge that everyone can benefit from. I just wish that this focus on being "pro" would stop across all youtube music production videos. It make it seem like music is some kind of game or competition to get to the top. But of course it is so much more than that.
Thank you for this very instructive video Alice, as always !
I have a question for you : Do you think it would be possible to reproduce this technique with an Ableton stock synthesizer like Wavetable or Meld for example ?
I have been following your channel for a very long time now and your content is always top notch quality, please keep it up
Thanks again great channel always helpful ❤
Thank You! Will try it right now!
Good luck!
Sick one! Thanks fam
Thanks a lot for the video
Great tips! ❤