never saw a Winky fight before. Wow. This is friggin' good stuff. Splendid defense, never intimidated, and his jabs work for him like a Swiss clockwork.
DLH and Winky Wright had my two favorite jabs of all time. When they got it going, they were almost unstoppable. And I'll agree with most other comments here in that pure tactical boxers gave Trinidad fits and exposed him.
+Cedrick Williams reminds me of the video of michael jai white teaching kimbo how to punch. He has no movement or tell. he shoots it straight out and it's not blinding speed but its difficult to judge
This fight goes to show that some styles are hard to adapt to no matter the fighter! The last fighter to give Wright a hell of a hard time was Taylor, the fight Winky was robbed of
DJaySplitSecond Winky was robbed in that Taylor fight. I think Taylor manager Lou DiBella was sketchy and did some back door deals. I still think Hopkins beat Taylor both times. But Winky is the best defensive fighter I have ever seen. When he put up those hands, it was like a cement wall, couldn't get through it. Mayweather is the best fighter I've seen making in fight adjustments.
+turtle42387 Joshua Clottey is very good aswell.....similar wall. One of the funniest fights for me was when Pacman fought him and just couldnt get through Clottey defence lol, Pac was just confused what else he can do to penetrate that guy)) Clottey was sick at that fight aswell, but still was like a wall))
winky wrights impregbable defense on display here! I cant believe fernando vargas was able to beat wright tho. Not because wright was such a great boxer.. but because his defense was just unbelievable.
+polivo0111 it wasnt impregnable. It was good and tough to solve. It looks as if he is right in front of you. But he keeps good distance and can fight going backwards. then added with that monstrous jab.. Everyone forgets about angles when fighting him.
I have no hate for Trinidad, he always came to fight, and most of his fights were exciting, and for a puncher he had decent boxing skills. So, how is it that each time he faced a good boxer he always looked confused and even tentative? (Wright, Hopkins, Jones etc). He had months to prepare for the fights, yet looked so very average in these fights.
***** actually i am from Peru,but it has nothing to do with race or what country i am from cause even any casual boxing fan can see that the true winner in their fight was Oscar, eventhough Officially it was gifted to Tito(remember him crying when the decision was announced,he knew it was a gift). This puts you in the category of hater cause most boxing fans agree DLH exposed Tito for the one dimensional fighter he was and really won going away,but that ok if you are in denial and hatred fuels you(for Oscar)in why you actually seriously can say that Tito won that fight.It's called boxing;hit and move and not get hit,Oscar did a great job at that!! DLH was nailing Tito at will and Tito being one dimensional as he was had no answers,but then again you are an in denial hater so can reason with you?!! Oscar dominated your boy!
*****- you know, I will bet you are a genius, am I right? I mean, you would be the first and most original brain to ever get into a racial war on a boxing vid! who would ever have thought of that?!?! Do you invent other things too? boy, I am simply stunned by your intellect...a racial war on a boxing video - pure genius! Einstein has nothing on you
This pretty much sums up the way I see Trinidad. Great fighter, loved watching him fight because he always moved forward and came to fight, but when faced with great boxers, he got exposed. He established his place in boxing history and I still enjoy watching his fights. Except when he fought great boxers, he never really had an answer.
Trinidad never had stamina issues... He was a marathon runner so he always was in extremely top shape. From a boxing point of view, he was a good fighter with an astonishing left hook. He had a Sugar Ray Robinson type of left hook with virtually the same technique. He had lost to very skilled boxers. More complete fighters overall.
After seeing Canelo Lara I would love to have seen this Winky Wright vs Canelo at 154. Canelo loves for a guy to come forward and Wright likes to fight guys that are flat footed. Interesting fight.
***** That's because Wright is probably the most underrated champion since 2000, although Tito was favored to win based on his better resume it was known that he was alot slower and unfit at middleweight. not a big surprise that he lost
+Matt Brozie yeah I agree it definitely wasn't surprising to me I won 500 bucks from a few homies it was a easy bet to me lol they were so impressed with tito's win over Mayorga and that because wright doesn't have any punching power tito would run right through him and boy were they wrong lol
After listening to DLH vs Tito without sound and watching it a couple of times, most can see that Trinidad won by a very close split. Oscar had that fight within his reach, but as usual got tired, slowed down and ran away. Winnable by Oscar but he lost, fair and square.
George Havenhand True, but a fight is a fight, stamina and the ability to go the distance are a part of the game. Oscar would've no doubt won an amateur fight or a 3-8 rounder with Tito, but not a championship 12 rounder
De La Hoya vs Trinidad 2 was supposed to happen instead of this fight, which would have HUGE! If De La Hoya would have pulled the upset and beaten Hopkins but we all know what happened. It could have still happened in 2006 if Trinidad would have beaten Wright and right after De La Hoya beat Mayorga. Oh well.
hated to see Trinidad go up in weight fighting these guys. he would take YEARS off and GO UP IN WEIGHT. fight the best champion of that class...Tito at 147lbs was/is top 5 welter all time.
BlkLatinCzr I don't understand your point and how am I outta my mind? Winky moved up TWO weightclasses just to WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP Tito's cullo! Facts! Prove me wrong. You can't. LMFAOOOO! Bruh....
BlkLatinCzr If you know ANYTHING about boxing you would KNOW this was Winky first time fighting at 160. He moved up TWO weightclasses just to fight Tito at 160. Prove me wrong.
I loved this fight, it showed how one dimensional Tito was and when he met a fighter who a strong fighter he was exposed so badly. This fight alone, I'll give Tito a pass against B-Hop, showed that Tito was overrated as hell. I don't want to hear how Tito was faded or past it. Wright was no spring chicken here and he would have beaten Tito any day at 154. Tito turned into a crybaby after this fight.
Jose Hyland Tito lost to the only other top fighter he fought at 147. ODH outboxed him easily early in the fight. ODH, faded down the stretch and Tito made the cards closer, but he didn't win the fight. For that matter ODH is an overrated fighter as well. Tito had big power and that only gets you so far. I don't think that Tito or Dela Hoya for that matter rate higher at 147 than Hearns or Leonard. I think Mark Breland would have beaten both ODH and Tito. Marlon Starling, would have boxed the shit out of Tito and the same with Donald Curry. I don't hate Trinidad, he is a good fighter and made for some very exciting fights. He is a fan friendly fighter. Both he and ODH were not what they were advertised to be.
Jose Hyland What you have written is very good and a nice assessment. Some people get carried away with Tito, making bold statements that he would have crush Hearns at any weight and would have KO'ed Benitez and Duran or could have went head to head with Marvin Hagler. You're not one of those people. I have followed Tito's career, either through Ring, KO or TV, since he fought Alberto Cortez. When I read that he scored a 3rd round KO over Cortez, I was impressed. Because Chavez had previously beaten Cortez via 3rd round KO and I figured a Tito had to have some talent. Then winning the title at age 20. That is impressive. That is something that seems to less and less common, fighters winning titles in their early 20s. I thought ODH beat Tito by 1 or 2 points, however, that didn't tell the story of the fight. The rounds ODH won, he won big and was embarrassing Tito. Anyway, in addition to Tito's power he had great stamina and heart. He never quit in a fight, that is for sure.
Jose Hyland tito wasnt one of the greatest. Welterweights he was really over rated just had good power at that weight in that era. If he was as strong as people say how come his power didnt show at middle weight. He was one dimensional, u can have all the power in the world if u cant land its useless. He couldnt compete with most of the greatest Welterweights in any era like a boxer like floyd could. He beat sweet pea on his way out and got a gift with that de le hoya fight. I dont see nothing great about Trinidad
Ok, let me say it.... Jay Nady! If ever there was someone who should've been a used car salesman! WTH??? Winky's shorts are high. Most of Trinidad's lefts to the body were good. When have you ever seen a match stopped for stepping on each others feet? It happens everytime opposites meet in the ring. Jay Nady just had to "LOOK AT ME EVERYBODY". Winky won hands down but I wonder how much more exciting it would have been with Mills Lane in there?
don't surprise me, when felix was 147 154 he was the man, that guy has fire in his hands, but when he made the mistake by going up in weight he lost all punching power
Proof that Tito was shot? or that Winky was on PEDs? I used to work out at the same gym that guys like Lacy and Winky worked out at and everybody knew they were both on the stuff. It wasn't even like a big secret or anything.
Tito didn't belong at that weight and I don't think any version of Tito could beat Winks style Lacy clearly looked juiced Wouldn't shock me if Wink was as well
BabyFacedAssassin301 Winky was a different fighter at 154, though. He was far more offensive minded and opened up more. It's why he was floored about 4 times against Harry Simon and he had that close fight with Vargas (A fight I thought Wink edged out).
I believe you about Winky and the PEDs but there's no proof really so not much anyone can do to discredit him much, although that roid brow doesn't help his case
never saw a Winky fight before. Wow. This is friggin' good stuff. Splendid defense, never intimidated, and his jabs work for him like a Swiss clockwork.
DLH and Winky Wright had my two favorite jabs of all time. When they got it going, they were almost unstoppable. And I'll agree with most other comments here in that pure tactical boxers gave Trinidad fits and exposed him.
What about ike
+josephpa05 Yes, Ike's jab was almost like a normal fighters straight. Ike probably had the hardest jab, Oscar's was just very quick and snappy..
I watched this fight when I was 9 years old,Man I miss those days.
I'm so glad Winky got some of those mega bucks fights before he retired.
Wink had impeccable defense. I wish I was like him when I fought.
How to throw a jab starring winky wright
+Cedrick Williams reminds me of the video of michael jai white teaching kimbo how to punch. He has no movement or tell. he shoots it straight out and it's not blinding speed but its difficult to judge
+Cedrick Williams Haha, good comment))
I love the part where winky throws a jab
Hahahaha!
When you win a fight with only 1 hand
I've never seen anyone hit a rhythm with their jab against a "great" fighter the way Winky did to Tito. Crazy
This fight goes to show that some styles are hard to adapt to no matter the fighter! The last fighter to give Wright a hell of a hard time was Taylor, the fight Winky was robbed of
DJaySplitSecond Winky was robbed in that Taylor fight. I think Taylor manager Lou DiBella was sketchy and did some back door deals. I still think Hopkins beat Taylor both times. But Winky is the best defensive fighter I have ever seen. When he put up those hands, it was like a cement wall, couldn't get through it. Mayweather is the best fighter I've seen making in fight adjustments.
+turtle42387 Fuck mayweather this fight has nothing to do with his ass
+turtle42387 Joshua Clottey is very good aswell.....similar wall. One of the funniest fights for me was when Pacman fought him and just couldnt get through Clottey defence lol, Pac was just confused what else he can do to penetrate that guy)) Clottey was sick at that fight aswell, but still was like a wall))
incredible, Winky's percentage of punches landed steadily went up during the fight!
Tito should of fought anybody else, Winky's style was venom for Tito. But props to Tito for always fighting the best
He was super tough
winky wrights impregbable defense on display here! I cant believe fernando vargas was able to beat wright tho. Not because wright was such a great boxer.. but because his defense was just unbelievable.
+polivo0111 it wasnt impregnable. It was good and tough to solve. It looks as if he is right in front of you. But he keeps good distance and can fight going backwards. then added with that monstrous jab.. Everyone forgets about angles when fighting him.
polivo0111 weight got robbed
They ain't call him Winky wright for nothing !! Dude through that right jab the whole fight🔥🔥🔥
lol @ Roy hating on Trinidad "He never looked that strong to Roy"
Winky might be the most underrated boxer in history.
No Mike Mcallum is ..Winky very underrated as well though ..
I have no hate for Trinidad, he always came to fight, and most of his fights were exciting, and for a puncher he had decent boxing skills.
So, how is it that each time he faced a good boxer he always looked confused and even tentative? (Wright, Hopkins, Jones etc). He had months to prepare for the fights, yet looked so very average in these fights.
Don't forget Oscar exposed him as well! Felix had great power in both hands but no boxing skills!
***** actually i am from Peru,but it has nothing to do with race or what country i am from cause even any casual boxing fan can see that the true winner in their fight was Oscar, eventhough Officially it was gifted to Tito(remember him crying when the decision was announced,he knew it was a gift). This puts you in the category of hater cause most boxing fans agree DLH exposed Tito for the one dimensional fighter he was and really won going away,but that ok if you are in denial and hatred fuels you(for Oscar)in why you actually seriously can say that Tito won that fight.It's called boxing;hit and move and not get hit,Oscar did a great job at that!! DLH was nailing Tito at will and Tito being one dimensional as he was had no answers,but then again you are an in denial hater so can reason with you?!! Oscar dominated your boy!
*****- you know, I will bet you are a genius, am I right? I mean, you would be the first and most original brain to ever get into a racial war on a boxing vid! who would ever have thought of that?!?! Do you invent other things too? boy, I am simply stunned by your intellect...a racial war on a boxing video - pure genius! Einstein has nothing on you
This pretty much sums up the way I see Trinidad. Great fighter, loved watching him fight because he always moved forward and came to fight, but when faced with great boxers, he got exposed.
He established his place in boxing history and I still enjoy watching his fights. Except when he fought great boxers, he never really had an answer.
Trinidad never had stamina issues... He was a marathon runner so he always was in extremely top shape. From a boxing point of view, he was a good fighter with an astonishing left hook. He had a Sugar Ray Robinson type of left hook with virtually the same technique. He had lost to very skilled boxers. More complete fighters overall.
After seeing Canelo Lara I would love to have seen this Winky Wright vs Canelo at 154. Canelo loves for a guy to come forward and Wright likes to fight guys that are flat footed. Interesting fight.
mobb s naw winky gets k o
Picked the wrong 3 . Hopkins , Jones, Wright.
three bigger guys and two of them with a long lay off. to Trinidad credit he went a fought the best, he won some and lost some.
+louie lou they all had defense
Afro Am vs Afro Latino
They’re both American
Winky Wright - respekt!
I picked my nigga wright to beat Trinidad and I was right
Well it was pretty obvious not many picked Tito to win anything at middle lol
+Matt Brozie wrong tito was favored yo win
***** That's because Wright is probably the most underrated champion since 2000, although Tito was favored to win based on his better resume it was known that he was alot slower and unfit at middleweight. not a big surprise that he lost
+Matt Brozie yeah I agree it definitely wasn't surprising to me I won 500 bucks from a few homies it was a easy bet to me lol they were so impressed with tito's win over Mayorga and that because wright doesn't have any punching power tito would run right through him and boy were they wrong lol
looks like tito has pillows for gloves.Wonder if he had worn reyes gloves,if it would have made a difference,probally not.
Trinidad is overrated, he got outboxed many times including the DLH fight.
After listening to DLH vs Tito without sound and watching it a couple of times, most can see that Trinidad won by a very close split. Oscar had that fight within his reach, but as usual got tired, slowed down and ran away. Winnable by Oscar but he lost, fair and square.
Matt Brozie Outboxed until DLH ran away I meant.
George Havenhand True, but a fight is a fight, stamina and the ability to go the distance are a part of the game. Oscar would've no doubt won an amateur fight or a 3-8 rounder with Tito, but not a championship 12 rounder
Matt Brozie I know mate.
George Havenhand Well, I'm just saying he's not overrated for coming back from a probably 6-7 point DLH lead
De La Hoya vs Trinidad 2 was supposed to happen instead of this fight, which would have HUGE! If De La Hoya would have pulled the upset and beaten Hopkins but we all know what happened. It could have still happened in 2006 if Trinidad would have beaten Wright and right after De La Hoya beat Mayorga. Oh well.
if trinidad hadn't low blow vargas...vargas would have knocked him out!
Ragamuffin Gtea no
If Vargas learned any type of defense he would have KOd tito
SunsetSideVet no lol
Puncher vs boxer
hated to see Trinidad go up in weight fighting these guys. he would take YEARS off and GO UP IN WEIGHT. fight the best champion of that class...Tito at 147lbs was/is top 5 welter all time.
BlkLatinCzr Tito never went up to fight Winky. Winky climbed 2 weight classes just to WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP Tito's ass. Gotta get your facts right.
FUCK YOU PAY ME u out yo mind. the fight was at 160lbs... Tito best was 147 and maybe 154.
BlkLatinCzr I don't understand your point and how am I outta my mind? Winky moved up TWO weightclasses just to WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP Tito's cullo! Facts! Prove me wrong. You can't. LMFAOOOO! Bruh....
FUCK YOU PAY ME the fight was at 160, how the fuck did winky jump up 2 weight classes just for this fight. quit trolling 😂😂😂
BlkLatinCzr If you know ANYTHING about boxing you would KNOW this was Winky first time fighting at 160. He moved up TWO weightclasses just to fight Tito at 160. Prove me wrong.
How is it that Larry Merchant hold on to that job? his listless non-sequiturs always came across like nails on a chalk board
+mollkatless that's his stykle
Also this fight showed that Tito was not this physically big fighter, Wright was bigger than Tito and Tito had a fat roll in this fight.
sinusbradycardia Winky moved up "2" weight classes to fight Tito. Gotta use better excuses. Haha.
Tito lucio formidable,hizo una buena pelea
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I loved this fight, it showed how one dimensional Tito was and when he met a fighter who a strong fighter he was exposed so badly. This fight alone, I'll give Tito a pass against B-Hop, showed that Tito was overrated as hell.
I don't want to hear how Tito was faded or past it. Wright was no spring chicken here and he would have beaten Tito any day at 154. Tito turned into a crybaby after this fight.
Jose Hyland
Tito lost to the only other top fighter he fought at 147. ODH outboxed him easily early in the fight. ODH, faded down the stretch and Tito made the cards closer, but he didn't win the fight. For that matter ODH is an overrated fighter as well. Tito had big power and that only gets you so far. I don't think that Tito or Dela Hoya for that matter rate higher at 147 than Hearns or Leonard. I think Mark Breland would have beaten both ODH and Tito. Marlon Starling, would have boxed the shit out of Tito and the same with Donald Curry.
I don't hate Trinidad, he is a good fighter and made for some very exciting fights. He is a fan friendly fighter. Both he and ODH were not what they were advertised to be.
Jose Hyland
What you have written is very good and a nice assessment. Some people get carried away with Tito, making bold statements that he would have crush Hearns at any weight and would have KO'ed Benitez and Duran or could have went head to head with Marvin Hagler. You're not one of those people. I have followed Tito's career, either through Ring, KO or TV, since he fought Alberto Cortez. When I read that he scored a 3rd round KO over Cortez, I was impressed. Because Chavez had previously beaten Cortez via 3rd round KO and I figured a Tito had to have some talent. Then winning the title at age 20. That is impressive. That is something that seems to less and less common, fighters winning titles in their early 20s. I thought ODH beat Tito by 1 or 2 points, however, that didn't tell the story of the fight. The rounds ODH won, he won big and was embarrassing Tito.
Anyway, in addition to Tito's power he had great stamina and heart. He never quit in a fight, that is for sure.
Jose Hyland yeah de la hoya wins yeah, running all 12 rounds.
Jose Hyland tito wasnt one of the greatest. Welterweights he was really over rated just had good power at that weight in that era. If he was as strong as people say how come his power didnt show at middle weight. He was one dimensional, u can have all the power in the world if u cant land its useless. He couldnt compete with most of the greatest Welterweights in any era like a boxer like floyd could. He beat sweet pea on his way out and got a gift with that de le hoya fight. I dont see nothing great about Trinidad
+sinusbradycardia Tito wasnt overated.. trust me. Two words Welter Weight..
Una Pena ber a Tito perder asi , Tito no estava ni serca del que fue devistes quedarte en Las 154
Whiny wrayt, venció Fácilmente a Tito Trinidad, qué venía desplomándose Muy Dramáticamente!
Trinidad was way too heavy. I would love to had see this fight in superwelter where tito was fastet
Holy shit Trinidad gets a lot of hate. If he wins the fight the other fighter was out of his prime or too fucking young. Jajaja gtfo
Ok, let me say it.... Jay Nady! If ever there was someone who should've been a used car salesman! WTH??? Winky's shorts are high. Most of Trinidad's lefts to the body were good. When have you ever seen a match stopped for stepping on each others feet? It happens everytime opposites meet in the ring. Jay Nady just had to "LOOK AT ME EVERYBODY". Winky won hands down but I wonder how much more exciting it would have been with Mills Lane in there?
The point is deducted AT THE TIME OF THE OFFENSE . . . . NEVER at the end of the round
Floyd vs Shane M. in there primes ! but it didn't happen
Floyd can't do this.
Fresh Sox
Do what?
don't surprise me, when felix was 147 154 he was the man, that guy has fire in his hands, but when he made the mistake by going up in weight he lost all punching power
Nelson Perez True, but Felix biggest problem was that he was too one dimensional, and more skilled fighters like Hopkins and Wright exposed him badly.
That's true too
Oba car was a skill fighter, David reid , pernel w,Oscar, the list is long the all skill fighter
Was happy when Hopkins whooped Wrights ass..lol
Fuck you that was a good fight winky better than Hopkins that was winky first lost since 1999 winky use to crush boxers and he underatted
I was happy when Bhop beat Trinidad ass lol
Nice teto 😮😮😮😮
42:10 😂😂😂😂
Винки - красава! Тито - туфта :-))
Jabfest
That was a totally bad call on a low blow punch
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Siertipo este ni ariesgo ni Toma y dame nada pudo entrar Tito no ataca masque conyas no ariesgas mijo
Tito was shot here. Plus Winky was on PEDs
proof?
Proof that Tito was shot? or that Winky was on PEDs? I used to work out at the same gym that guys like Lacy and Winky worked out at and everybody knew they were both on the stuff. It wasn't even like a big secret or anything.
Tito didn't belong at that weight and I don't think any version of Tito could beat Winks style
Lacy clearly looked juiced
Wouldn't shock me if Wink was as well
BabyFacedAssassin301 Winky was a different fighter at 154, though. He was far more offensive minded and opened up more. It's why he was floored about 4 times against Harry Simon and he had that close fight with Vargas (A fight I thought Wink edged out).
I believe you about Winky and the PEDs but there's no proof really so not much anyone can do to discredit him much, although that roid brow doesn't help his case