it sucks paying for UA-cam premium to remove the ads just to find out that sponsored videos are the norm now. btw, I've been wrapping MDF for furniture and it works really well. next time I will do some embossing, thanks for the idea
Love your videos! So it's two years later: how is the open edge vinyl technique holding up? I'm thinking of using this for a recessed center runner in a dining room table and would love to hear about durability and cleanability.
Love this book! ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxpCNxqmAkyjN6NPx1fyB7QiEFWyO5mUWL it is simply one-of-a-kind! I really love it, because karah explained all tools required to have the job done, not mentioning the fabulous diy pallets ideas. I'm pretty sure this will be a fresh start in my new endeavour. Amazon was great, they delivered on time. Thank you!
UA-cam just stopped recommending your videos to me. The last Video I saw was months ago. Today I just thought "Hmm, does Chris still make videos?" and searched for you on my own. Activating the bell now...
I'm surprised you didn't consider using the cricut for some of the more complicated designs for the card stock, its a great tool for something like this
I actually did. But only to make “stickers” that I didn’t have access to. Like the jump man logo. I talked about them as stickers since that’s the much more approachable version of the idea. I’ll probably do this again in the future and work the Cricut into it in a more public way.
@@Foureyes.Furniture ah okay haha I've used my cameo 3 for similar things and I used it for stencils on complicated designs for cosplay armor, wood working and airbrushing in general haha
I like your solution for not allowing a drawer to be accidentally pulled out. As a second option, and maybe even easier, what I've done in the past is to use a hinge screwed to the top with the other leg dangling down. Gravity always works in your favor, you simply push the hinge up to pull the drawer out. Also then when you put the drawer back in, the catch mechanism always "resets" itself once the back of the drawer passes by the hinge leg that is hanging down.
Thank what a great video. I was so looking forward to this, since the time you were talking about it on the podcast. That technique will go into my mental toolbox.
For a less expensive (though not cheap) alternative to the X-Carve that will produce intricate cuts in material up to a thickness of 2-3 mm, you can get an electronic cutting machines. The smallest (which will accept 8.5-9 inch wide material) run around $100 on sale.
Your method of cutting the vinyl is the same way I upholster anything with complex curves but had hidden edges(door card panels makes life ten times easier, although I use the pull and work method as much as possible as well to make sure I have as much material to glue
I see a Welsh name in the Patreon credits (Dyfed) and proceed to listen to Chris butcher it saying David :P I love the subtlety of this technique and it opens the potential to do so much it terms of customisation, patterns, colours etc - i'm sure your father really appreciates the piece, I know I sure would
Hi, there! Here in Europe is the big trend linoleum on wood and of course patterns and imprints are played with. Maybe you want to check it out. Regards, Etna.
Killer video Chris! I think you guys should emboss woodworking puns into the underside of furniture projects. Hit clients with something good like "plywouldn't i". You know, the usual Four Eyes comedy :)
About the edges.. what if you fold those extra flaps and then trap them with edge banding? Maybe a 5mm strip with mitered corners that meet in the face of the drawer. Cool technique! Gonna try it
thats a nice piece Chris! using vinyl is smart idea, which is close to PVC membrane! if you want to work alot with this material, build a simple small vaccum table to work out the corners in easy way and you can go much deeper than 1/16 "! did you apply vinyl directly to the wood without applying sealer or primer ? and the other question is how long will it last? but thats time that will tell us all! hope you can tell us after 25years! that would be definitely durable stuff lol! Nice Work as always
If I can make a suggestion, I come from a car audio background. They actually make rolling tools and upholstery tools to help press the vinyl into the curves and small areas. Check out 12vTools or mobile solutions usa and you can pick them up there.
Chris i visited your website offering plans. i loved it. will be your customer in future near. have started wood work on my own. need help you offer. thanks
So just an idea, but instead of using a CnC for your designs, you could buy a Cricut machine Conceptually like a CNC, but on a small scale, and designed to work with a drag knives and vinylidene
Great tips and a great build. I'm disappointed that there's something you do that isn't great (painting) (lol). But most important is the return of SCRAPSKETBALL! Stay safe. Bill
Okay, but how much for the push stick!? I've seen you use it before in your other videos and I'm obsessed with it. Can you make some Kobe's? If you decided to sell these, i'd buy them in a heart beat.
Did you buy a whole roll of that vinyl? A 164' roll seems like a lot, and I'm curious how much that'll run you. I have a project I'm working on in the fall that is intended to be all black, and it might be cool to do it, or main surfaces at least, in black vinyl.
A guy who listens to the podcast sent me some when he heard me talking about the idea. He reached out and offered, I said "just send me some scrap remnants" and he sent me two giant rolls. I don't think they are 164' though...maybe inches???
Chris, just an FYI: there is a cheap plastic tool called a "bone folder" (used in bookbinding) that would work much better than a credit card for pressing the details into the vinyl.
This wasn’t at all what I was expecting when I heard you guys talking about this on the podcast. That really looks amazing. This is the type of thing that makes you wonder how you’ve never seen it before, and mad for not thinking of it yourself. I can definitely see this technique getting used in a future project. Great job!
Chris Salomone - I bought a secondhand table saw and it burnt out after I used it twice, I had an amazing time using it before it died! I think my best tool is my sanding disc I put on my cordless drill. It’s so handy! I hope to use your embossing tip on something! Great idea!
That vinyl will hold up fine. I've had my garage cabinet doors wrapped for several years now just like you did it, with no signs of peeling. Still looks better than paint! I'm loving you creativity with the embossed idea!
A tip for working with vinyl: paint the surface with gloss paint before applying the film to it. Vinyl tends to come off of matte, porous surfaces over a “short” period of time. Also, buy “cast” vinyl as opposed to “calendered”. It is more durable and a lot easier to form around the patterns.
I agree strongly with this, having done a lot of vinyl for signage and film sets. My biggest concern with the methods where the vinyl is cut to the edge is that it will shrink over time and expose the edge underneath, especially when you’ve put it under tension to match the embossed profiles. The edges are always the most trouble, wrapping around can be difficult to do well, as you found. I’d consider doing a panel that is inset in a frame so the edges are actually covered. Experimenting is key, and part of that experimenting should involve seeing how it reacts over time to changes in temp and humidity.
I see the problem, but the paint also needs some time to dry out. This would take a lot of time waiting. Or you'll remove the paint aswell when stripping the vinyl. Maybe Chris could use a laminated front instead?
In my experience the vinyl will always fail when installed on bare wood like that. Please let us know how is fares. Sealing the wood with varnish can help. But it will still eventually lift. I think enclosing the edges of the board in a dado would help.
Yeah, this seems like it’d hold up well if you captured the edges. The construction paper idea makes is pretty accessible too. If I had a CNC, though, I’d probably just skip this and step up my HVLP game. What I like about this video, though, it that its really fun to see new ideas tested.
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it sucks paying for UA-cam premium to remove the ads just to find out that sponsored videos are the norm now.
btw, I've been wrapping MDF for furniture and it works really well. next time I will do some embossing, thanks for the idea
I don't see the plans for this on your website!
Love your videos! So it's two years later: how is the open edge vinyl technique holding up? I'm thinking of using this for a recessed center runner in a dining room table and would love to hear about durability and cleanability.
So amazing & listening to your voiceover is so therapeutic !
Love this book! ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxpCNxqmAkyjN6NPx1fyB7QiEFWyO5mUWL it is simply one-of-a-kind! I really love it, because karah explained all tools required to have the job done, not mentioning the fabulous diy pallets ideas. I'm pretty sure this will be a fresh start in my new endeavour. Amazon was great, they delivered on time. Thank you!
UA-cam just stopped recommending your videos to me. The last Video I saw was months ago. Today I just thought "Hmm, does Chris still make videos?" and searched for you on my own. Activating the bell now...
Nice. I’m definitely still making them. 😊
@@Foureyes.Furniture I saw that! I am currently rewatching what YT made me miss.
"... enjoy your removed box." - classic Salomone
:)
Who doesn't enjoy a good old fashioned removed box!
+1 for cricut or other paper cutting machine. Thanks for the idea, might try that with my Papier cutter
I'm surprised you didn't consider using the cricut for some of the more complicated designs for the card stock, its a great tool for something like this
I actually did. But only to make “stickers” that I didn’t have access to. Like the jump man logo. I talked about them as stickers since that’s the much more approachable version of the idea. I’ll probably do this again in the future and work the Cricut into it in a more public way.
@@Foureyes.Furniture ah okay haha I've used my cameo 3 for similar things and I used it for stencils on complicated designs for cosplay armor, wood working and airbrushing in general haha
This is EXTRA DOPE. Keep up the experimentation!
I like your solution for not allowing a drawer to be accidentally pulled out. As a second option, and maybe even easier, what I've done in the past is to use a hinge screwed to the top with the other leg dangling down. Gravity always works in your favor, you simply push the hinge up to pull the drawer out. Also then when you put the drawer back in, the catch mechanism always "resets" itself once the back of the drawer passes by the hinge leg that is hanging down.
i love the idea to mix material like that, congrats it's very awesome
Nice, I have been interested in this since you mentioned the idea on the podcast some time ago
Good job Chris
Esta chida la cajita para los colores
Awesome as always
very nice. thank you so much. be happy. bravo.................
Hi, I'm Willy from Montevideo Uruguay. I really admire them for the beautiful jobs they do. I loved this job
Cool video and idea, thanks Chris.
Thank what a great video. I was so looking forward to this, since the time you were talking about it on the podcast. That technique will go into my mental toolbox.
I love this idea
For a less expensive (though not cheap) alternative to the X-Carve that will produce intricate cuts in material up to a thickness of 2-3 mm, you can get an electronic cutting machines. The smallest (which will accept 8.5-9 inch wide material) run around $100 on sale.
At first I wasn’t digging it. But I love the idea and it’s definitely growing on me.
Awesome stuff Chris! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
Beautiful.
I drool everytime I see your AJ1 push sticks! Please sell them! 🤤
Classic foureyes 👌
That's beautiful! 👍
Keith Haring - nice pick!!! 👍👍
This looks great. Do you have plans for this side table? Can't find them on your website.
Another piece of art. 😍
Great idea...thanks for posting!
Your method of cutting the vinyl is the same way I upholster anything with complex curves but had hidden edges(door card panels makes life ten times easier, although I use the pull and work method as much as possible as well to make sure I have as much material to glue
You could use a vinyl cutter like a Cricut or a Silhouette to cut patterns out of Construction paper. Nice middle ground maybe?
This would be so cool using the cricut to cut out really complex shapes and patterns
I see a Welsh name in the Patreon credits (Dyfed) and proceed to listen to Chris butcher it saying David :P I love the subtlety of this technique and it opens the potential to do so much it terms of customisation, patterns, colours etc - i'm sure your father really appreciates the piece, I know I sure would
in fairness...I chatted with him and he told me how to pronounce it.
This is an old school 1990s custom car interior technique. It was really popular in the mini truck scene.
I love the legs. They make me think of war of the worlds 👍🏼🤓
Very interesting idea! Its definitely got me thinking!
Wow, Chris. This is innovative. My next floating media console will have an embossed door. Thanks again.
Awesome work keep up the great work make on
Your build has a cool war of the worlds kinda vibe to it or a squidee from the matrix
Hi, there!
Here in Europe is the big trend linoleum on wood and of course patterns and imprints are played with. Maybe you want to check it out.
Regards,
Etna.
Please, make a podcast telling stories for people to sleep. You voice/tone/timber is really relaxing
Killer video Chris! I think you guys should emboss woodworking puns into the underside of furniture projects. Hit clients with something good like "plywouldn't i". You know, the usual Four Eyes comedy :)
Nice work
The only thing I missed in the video was a Colgate ad.
About the edges.. what if you fold those extra flaps and then trap them with edge banding? Maybe a 5mm strip with mitered corners that meet in the face of the drawer.
Cool technique! Gonna try it
Give it a shot...who knows :)
Maravilloso y simplemente maravilloso, saludos brother
Hi would you be able to try making tensegrity table or furniture
thats a nice piece Chris!
using vinyl is smart idea, which is close to PVC membrane!
if you want to work alot with this material, build a simple small vaccum table to work out the corners in easy way and you can go much deeper than 1/16 "!
did you apply vinyl directly to the wood without applying sealer or primer ?
and the other question is how long will it last? but thats time that will tell us all! hope you can tell us after 25years! that would be definitely durable stuff lol!
Nice Work as always
If I can make a suggestion, I come from a car audio background. They actually make rolling tools and upholstery tools to help press the vinyl into the curves and small areas. Check out 12vTools or mobile solutions usa and you can pick them up there.
Was that maple? What finish did you use? I have some leftover maple, an end table would be a great use for it
Chris i visited your website offering plans. i loved it. will be your customer in future near. have started wood work on my own. need help you offer. thanks
So just an idea, but instead of using a CnC for your designs, you could buy a Cricut machine
Conceptually like a CNC, but on a small scale, and designed to work with a drag knives and vinylidene
Was going to suggest this exact idea
Good day, please tell me the name of the film, or a link to the site. I would like to find something similar in Russia. Thank you, sincerely.
I little cheaper than an x-carve is a cricut or silouette paper cutting machine if all you need is cardstock thickness.
Great Video! Thank You
Thanks 🙏🏻
Great tips and a great build. I'm disappointed that there's something you do that isn't great (painting) (lol). But most important is the return of SCRAPSKETBALL! Stay safe. Bill
Scrapsketball will never leave. I guess we just haven't been showing it as much :)
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Okay, but how much for the push stick!? I've seen you use it before in your other videos and I'm obsessed with it. Can you make some Kobe's? If you decided to sell these, i'd buy them in a heart beat.
Thanks. I don't sell them. I don't think that would be right seeing as how it's a Nike :)
Hey have a good day :D
Great Video, I love the technique. I was hoping to see some sweet shots of the sneakers. I like the obsidians.
Next time!
Did you buy a whole roll of that vinyl? A 164' roll seems like a lot, and I'm curious how much that'll run you. I have a project I'm working on in the fall that is intended to be all black, and it might be cool to do it, or main surfaces at least, in black vinyl.
A guy who listens to the podcast sent me some when he heard me talking about the idea. He reached out and offered, I said "just send me some scrap remnants" and he sent me two giant rolls. I don't think they are 164' though...maybe inches???
Quite teknikal
Certified banger 👌
Chris, just an FYI: there is a cheap plastic tool called a "bone folder" (used in bookbinding) that would work much better than a credit card for pressing the details into the vinyl.
Also, saying you have a bone folder just sounds bad ass.
Danny Ross I’m gonna have to put that on my tinder profile
Isha Aguilera 😂
@@dannyross I guess when used to restore historical documents they sometimes say "You really need to "bone down hard" on that piece...
That is kind of a terrifying name....a "bone folder"
Love it, wish I could own it.
Hm. I'm doing a kind of this in leathercrafting, so it's pretty familiar for me :)
I'm missing the link to buy your t-shirt and cap.
Great video, really cool subject matter.
Doesn't help with my longing for an X-Carve though...
I've been waiting for the Car wrap + woodworking for some time now. I you came through big time as always. Love your experimental pieces!
The Keith Haring design is absolutely fantastic. Really cool!
Great video. Interesting technique. Car wrap is different than drawer liners right? Mahalo for sharing! : )
yes?????
I actually don't know. Definitely thicker.
Haven't watched Chris in a while...he's not working out of his garage anymore 🤯
Nothing more than a 13 minute long commercial.
You can use "Edge Sealer" which will lock the edges of the vinyl down.
4:37 that continuous grain 🤤
Great idea, but instead of a cnc machine, couldn't you use a craft cutter like a Graphtec Craft ROBO?
Much cheaper :)
You need your Uncle Jim to read the commercials.
I love the "Final season Walter White" beard man
Does this work for other words?
1:64th? what's that in non murica units?
Do you go for the Chicago cubs?
just the hats ;)
This wasn’t at all what I was expecting when I heard you guys talking about this on the podcast. That really looks amazing. This is the type of thing that makes you wonder how you’ve never seen it before, and mad for not thinking of it yourself. I can definitely see this technique getting used in a future project. Great job!
Thanks man. Yeah, I'm sure I'm not the first to do it...but, hopefully others will play around with it now too :)
What are 5 examples of wood work?
You videos are good. I am keeping you. Get in your little subscribed box.
I think Ciaren is usually pronounced the same as Kiran.
Cool! I wish I had your workshop!
Thanks! I don’t take it for granted.
Chris Salomone - I bought a secondhand table saw and it burnt out after I used it twice, I had an amazing time using it before it died! I think my best tool is my sanding disc I put on my cordless drill. It’s so handy!
I hope to use your embossing tip on something! Great idea!
aye steelers my home country
That was so cool. You have now given me to many ideas with this. Great work.
Awesome! Thank you!
plan clocks woodworking .
What a great idea! Can't wait to try this on something. Thanks!
My bro got 33 stitches on his forehead from a drawer front when we were little, so my vote is good call on the rounded edges
yikes. Now I'm extra glad I rounded them
Great job Chris, I love watching you videos to get inspired for my own projects. Keep up the great videos
That vinyl will hold up fine. I've had my garage cabinet doors wrapped for several years now just like you did it, with no signs of peeling. Still looks better than paint! I'm loving you creativity with the embossed idea!
Great project. The embossing technique is really cool. I can see me getting into that in the future. It looks fun.
What wood is this?
Beech
@@Foureyes.Furniture Cheers, gorgeous build 👍
wooow
A tip for working with vinyl: paint the surface with gloss paint before applying the film to it. Vinyl tends to come off of matte, porous surfaces over a “short” period of time.
Also, buy “cast” vinyl as opposed to “calendered”. It is more durable and a lot easier to form around the patterns.
I agree strongly with this, having done a lot of vinyl for signage and film sets. My biggest concern with the methods where the vinyl is cut to the edge is that it will shrink over time and expose the edge underneath, especially when you’ve put it under tension to match the embossed profiles. The edges are always the most trouble, wrapping around can be difficult to do well, as you found. I’d consider doing a panel that is inset in a frame so the edges are actually covered. Experimenting is key, and part of that experimenting should involve seeing how it reacts over time to changes in temp and humidity.
And I like to cut a rabbet on the backside to tuck the vinyl around into and then you can cut along the rabbet to get a clean line
I see the problem, but the paint also needs some time to dry out. This would take a lot of time waiting. Or you'll remove the paint aswell when stripping the vinyl.
Maybe Chris could use a laminated front instead?
Maybe prefinished ply would be the best/cheapest surface
Have you ever considered taking a painting class 🎨😂
The biggest think I learned in this video is that my scrap bin is way too close to my table saw
Well that projects a wrap...
In my experience the vinyl will always fail when installed on bare wood like that. Please let us know how is fares. Sealing the wood with varnish can help. But it will still eventually lift. I think enclosing the edges of the board in a dado would help.
Yeah, this seems like it’d hold up well if you captured the edges. The construction paper idea makes is pretty accessible too. If I had a CNC, though, I’d probably just skip this and step up my HVLP game. What I like about this video, though, it that its really fun to see new ideas tested.