The Balkan Federation could've been epic
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I think you didn't mention Greek enlightened Rigas Ferraios, who proposed a Balkan Confederation already by the late 1700s.
Long live The Yugoslav Union. ✊
Arguably the biggest proponents of a Balkan Federation were the Macedonian revolutionaries from the end of 19th/beginning of 20th century. Their ultimate ideal was a supra-national "Switzerland of the Balkans" Macedonia within a broader Balkan Federation. That was seen as the only viable and logical solution for the "Macedonian Question" given the complex ethnic and geo-political situation of Ottoman Macedonia.
To be more precise the ideal was popular among the Slavic (sometimes calling themselves "Bulgarian") Macedonians and the Makedono-Vlachos (Macedonian Vlahs) with Albanians from time to time supporting the idea between their chaotic revolts before the Balkan Wars.
The Tito-Stalin split and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race
That is true only if we presume that Yugoslav Bulgaria would have been a capable balance to Serbian power, and that annexing Albania in a predominantly Slavic union wouldn't have been a destabilising factor.
On a side note, this is what the EU should have been from the start, instead of just another tool for the imperialist core to exploit the periphery.
hello,glad to see this video,recently i've been thinking,could you reac & respond to Ironically Living in Europe video "Was Yugoslavia actually a good state ?(not really)" he get some stuff right but of course a lot of primary anti communist bad points & othher stuff,it could been interesting to have a ex-yugoslav communist respond a non-communist ex-yugoslav about socialist Yugoslavia
The amount of ethnic confluct would be apsolutly unimaginable lol
in the 70s in Greece the Communist party suffered a split between MLs and the newly formed eurocomms, forming two Communist parties. The classic ML KKE and the new eurocommunist KKE-Interior. The KKE-Int. had a youth orginasation called EKON - Rigas Feraios, having an idea of socialist panbalkan union. Not that KKE didnt want the same internationalist principle, but they were a bit more dureaucratic about it. The USSR didnt have good relations with Tito at the time plus after the civil war communists were called "slavs" and "slavomacedonians" because they fought in northern greece and established the Provisional Government there. Regardless i wanted to add this information to your video. You are doing a great job comrade! Solidarity from Greece, May our Balkan Brothers and Sisters Unite!!
The Yugoslav project was so interesting and unique overall, in fact as of late I've become more fascinated by it rather than the USSR due to the way it was set up and its politics, but its uniqueness likely played a part in its downfall. Additionally, little material seems to be available in English as well.
I've managed to discover a few books, including one written by Chomsky, of all people, not that long ago, but not much else. Most of the sources cited in the video also don't seem to be translated. Also, as a Romanian, I'm surprised at how much we show up here, I had no idea we had such strong relationships, at least in the early days of the project.
Balkan Odyssey few years ago: The Balkan Federation could've been a *tragic huge mistake*
Balkan Odyssey now:
Giannis, Luka, and Jokic on the same team? The Balkan federation would win the Gold.
Just add Turkey and it's the Byzantine Empire
7:12 but can manscaped grow my patchy beard 😭😭😭
Poor decisions by Serbia/Tito ultimately cost this dream.
If Serbia/Tito officially gave
Albania: Kosovo > Albania would have joined
Bulgaria: North Macedonia > Bulgaria would have joined
Greece: Removal of the fake entity of North Macedonia > Greece would have joined
7:01 Gotta say it is a smart insertion of an ad.
And if my grandmother had wheels, she'd been a car
Zagrevev emin zlotny dev!
just dont include the albanians
haha the separatist hungarians would be all of the balkans' problem then
How could there be a union of the Hungarians didnt agree to it ? That would be a pre-requisite for any of this obviously.
A beer bottle says never.
Why no Hungary?
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This can never happen, though, it might be a nice pipe dream. If the Slavic peoples of Yugoslavia couldn’t get along, what makes anyone think that a peninsula with diverse people, languages and religions could get along? The immediate question would be how will this Balkan State be governed? By whom? How would you elect the representatives? It’s a mess.
You may say that Italy was fragmented and was unified, but there’s a huge difference between the italic peninsula and the Balkan Peninsula. The Italian peninsula’s regions all speak some variant of Latin and have a common religious and cultural identity more or less. It is not at all the same in the Balkans. One may argue that there is perhaps a common Byzantine tradition among the Orthodox peoples of the Balkans, but there is no common language, cultural or ethnic identity.
As I said earlier: if the Slavic people of Yugoslavia couldn’t get along, there’s no way that you can unite the Balkans with so many other linguistic, ethnic, religious and cultural identities. Maybe a loose federation could be possible, though.
Basically every country in North and South America is a multi-ethnic, multi-racial, and multi-national republic. It really isn't that hard if two entire continents can do it.