stupid, sucessive groups have littered the slopes with clothing, human waste, empty oxygen bottles etc, some foolish people don't even bother to do their homework or take proper precautions, they pay ridiculous sums of money, whilst their sherpas, who act as guides, porters etc get paid peanuts
Ofcourse u must listen to sherpas. But u must also keep in mind that listening to your sherpas may not be enough. U can still die. So, u must always listen to your sherpas and not take insane decisions on your own.
Years later, stories STILL blaming the other climbers for David Sharp? NO. No other climber is obligated to risk their own life to save someone else, especially an 8k peak. Their own bodies are literally dying for every minute they're up there. Approve of it or not, the fact is simple. You climb, you accept the risk and you accept it for yourself. You could die up there and that's your own choice.
The pictures of long lines waiting to summit are crazy. I think some of have lost sight of what is important. Also the trash thing is so disappointing ;the lack of disrespect for land that is not theirs is heart breaking.
Hiking and climbing changed after instagram. Before if you wanted to know about a trial, you looked at some websites and books, trained, packed carefully, and went. Now it’s about getting the exact same photo as everyone else at the landmarks. It’s ridiculous. So many gorgeous trails get corked by people on a cell phone journey, in sneakers and not even carrying water, and then mountain rescue has to go retrieve them and their basket of trash.
My favourite part is that, if I'm not mistaken, someone who had prosthetics and thus was already at more risk because of it was also climbing around the time Sharp was dying and because he physically could not help him, he was one of the ones being blasted the most by the media for not stopping to help? Like...hello? Sharp's life was not worth more than that man's, and vice versa. If you climb Everest you know what risks you're taking and if you aren't able to make it back down, and help isn't able to make it up to you WITH THE SPECIFIC INTENT TO HELP, then the people who pass you by are not responsible for saving you if they aren't able to. Now this isn't to say just pass them by and ignore them. See if there's anything you CAN do if you're safely able to. Radio for help, or just try to make them a bit more comfortable. But DO NOT put your own life at risk up there by putting yourself at a disadvantage. But if you ARE more safely able to help, then do not just walk past them and pretend you didn't see their struggles. If the summit is worth more than the life of someone you could genuinely have helped, you need to reevaluate your values and morals.
Hillary himself blamed him an dishonored him for not helping Sharp. Like, is he finally out of his mind? A guy with both legs doomed that reached summit? And the location of green boots itself is so far up, rescue takes time to reach it. On a mountain like Everest it is complicated enought to stay alive anyway and reach summit AND come back down in one piece. Anyone go up there does know what he is doing and risking. Don't blame others for not helping you, be happy if you get help from people that in this moment put themselfs in danger by wasting prescious time in death zone.
The "willing to descend" is the part people struggle with sometimes because admittedly Everest is a VERY costly expedition, and one that people can't pay for more than once in a lifetime if you aren't extremely well-off financially. But the world really needs to realize that the circumstances in which you can actually do anything that will help or save that person's life are INCREDIBLY specific and require a lot of different things to be in place at the same time, and if you aren't able to meet those requirements, it SHOULD NOT be your responsibility for you to stop and spend your precious resources on saving someone who is likely a lost cause without risking you own life. It's easy to say "You should value human life above everything else! They deserve to live! You should have helped them!" when you're comfortable in your chair or bed watching a video about Everest victims and aren't there in person with someone's life on the line and your own life at risk if you stop and help.
The problem is that they lied about trying to help him, calling base camp etc. If they had owned their decision to ignore Sharp there probably wouldn't have been so much controversy.
Taking a helicopter to camp 2, means you really didn’t climb the mountain, so claims should not be recognized. And to take clients through an illegal passage in the icefall?……well what if EVERYONE did that. What could happen then. What makes him think he is so special, above the law, above other people. Ego. Not skill.
Indeed, go from basecamp, go all the way on ur own steam, and adhere to the rules, or it doesnt count. And breaking the rules also endangers every1 else on the mountain. There should definitely be penalties.
@DL-cs6fz There are not many helicopter operators in Nepal and Tibet, fewer still with aircraft having a service ceiling allowing reaching Camp 2 loaded. Finding the pilot and operator would not be difficult. The pilot could hardly plead ignorance about his passengers or the gear they were carrying. Aside from a reprimand for sheer asinine stupidity, was the pilot who made this unlawful trip grounded or charged? What were the penalties for the company? Not many high-mountain chopper pilots or aircraft are available, but the government doesn't tolerate cowboys. What, if anything, happened for their part in this stunt? Just flying in to Katmandu used to require a special license endorsement. If you didn't have one, the fine upon landing - even if in one piece - was very un-funny. Some pretty definite questions would be asked about that trip.
Do you have any idea what you are talking about? I was one of the first women team to climb Annapurna. The Everest climb does not even begin until you get to Khumbu. please when you offer opinions think about what you are talking about.
@farihasultanaazha Grief can do weird things to ppl. If thats what she needs to believe to be able to handle her grief, let her. Shes not hurting any1.
You know how in parks they ask you not to hike off trail because it could damage the environment? Yeah. Enough people climb Everest annually (too many people, really) that it already causes wear and tear on the mountain, and there's a lot of garbage left behind, which can't be easily retrieved. The permit system isn't without its flaws, but taking an illegal route is selfish.
nothing you said makes sense other than trash cant be easily retried off everest. but it doesnt really matter. the earth regenerates and in the future when weve killed ourselves with nuclear war, there will be no evidence that anyone ever climbed everest. and even farther into the future, everest wont exist anymore as erosion will carry it into the ocean
Yeah. Their footsteps will wear the mountain down until it’s not the tallest mountain. They will also kill all the animals and plants living up there. 😂
I agree about it being selfish, not to mention irresponsible to take routes that are without permits or unnecessary risk taking just to push the so called "LIMITS". Whilst it makes perfectly sense to me that life isn't all about safety, it makes even more sense to me that safety measures can safe lives, specially in those life-threatening adventures.
And not to forget, apart from their own safety, the environmental damage they are creating there. I think the passion for climbing should be more about the experience of climbing, not the ultimate goal of reaching the top or not. Is that picture or swift moment on the top, really so representative of your passion for climbing mountains? Personally I think it is a created illusion, without any depth to it, and it also is a dangerous and irresponsible goal, for yourself and others who want to save u. If weather conditions are good, and your body is still working fine, than it seems ok to me if u want to make it to the top. But otherwise just turn around, think about your life, put your life and family above reaching the top., and keep the joy of climbing in your heart. This way u can repeat your passion and live to tell the stories.
How many people climb the mountain twice? Ban from the country would probably be a better deterrent as they’re more likely to want to visit the country again.
People (Sherpas, tour guides, a tour manager) have died by staying with dying climbers, leaving their last bottle of O² with them higher on the mountain, or by trying to carry dying climbers down from the death zone. Dying on the mountain due to ill-preparedness of any form, is almost a choice, when it comes down to it.
@@deekey33 Agree 100%. My comment was to the folks posting their indignation about other climbers on the mountain not changing all their plans and risking their own lives to attempt a rescue.
I agree. I wondered if he was waving them away because he knew he put himself in that situation and didn't want them to risk their lives to try to save him when he knew they couldn't help.
The numbers now climbing Everest is WAY too many for the enviroment & safety. They also put the Sherpa's lives at risk. There should be a restriction on the number of people allowed to climb! Green boots is just macabre.
Biggest problem is that a LOT of the immediate local economy is based around Everest tourism. For some of the Sherpas and their families the money they get from the trips to the mountain is infinitely more than what they’d get otherwise.
@@alidabotes6264 Agree completely. When I had too many pie orders I raised the price and made the same money with less work. But I see what others are saying, the local restaurants or whatever are benefitting so they want more people even if it trashes the place and downstream too. Same old story since the beginning of agriculture.
No one puts the Sherpas at risk but themselves, they are literally the ones who run the commercial expeditions (or help run it when working with foreign guides). Sherpas aren’t forced to climb the mountain and most of them don’t, the ones that do choose to do it themselves.
There are so many stupid people out there. I've seen suggestions to drive up with snowmobiles and get them, and the best one, run extension cords up Mt Everest with electric heaters to get the frozen bodies out of the ice. Morons hear Mt Everest and think of a really big hill they saw one time 😂
Oh my gosh….not David again. He made his own decisions. He knew the risks. Even his mother says that he wouldn’t have wanted other climbers risking their lives for him.
if you are ok with paying Disney for a ticket into their parks then please pay the Nepalese government for visiting their mountain 🙄 what makes it worse is that not paying for the permit is akin to robbing a homeless man. the Nepalese really need that money
I’ve watched a lot of tragic Mt Everest video but this one has got to be the best I’ve seen. Excellent narration, right to the point, with a little bit of a background for understanding the climber. Not overly done, and grabbed my attention all the way through. Other videos are just too long and dragged. It would go way off tangent sometimes which made it difficult to follow. I learned a lot more from this video than any other.
People are not respecting the mountain. It has become too commercialized; and I am not even a climber. I am in awe of those who attempt and achieve summiting these majestic peaks; but people need to realize that they are not triumphing over them. There is a difference between conquering nature and respecting it. The real achievement is made when you can surmount something while respecting it, and at the same time not destroying it. This is just my humble opinion.
Climbing anything with a serious reputation is going to demand respect. There is no other option. It is an in your face sport. I have heard people talk about how easy a climb is going to be only to see them cry their way up. Once Climbing starts respect comes with it. Even easy climbs are fun and garner respect. Everest gets its respect no matter who is Climbing
I just watched a new 3 part nat geo special called Arctic Ascent on Disney+ about climbing face cliffs in the middle of nowhere Greenland to get climate data to study & try to climb 2 magnificent faces w/ iconic climber Alex Honnold. Now that was watching a group of people who truly respected where they were, making it up never before climbed cliffs higher than El Cap. Highly recommend.
I've read theres a lot of trash up there that pople have left. That should be illegal. If you pack it in, you pack it out. A lot of spoiled rich brats not caring.
If there are punishments for climbing an illegal route, there should also be punishments for disobeying the Sherpa when they say to not do something because it is too dangerous, with documenting evidence of course. Most Sherpa carry cell phones now, so a video could be taken, or a radio call where others can hear the climber directly going against the Sherpa. Sherpa are there to help the climbers get up and down alive, not just carry everyone's stuff. They are a humble and caring group of people and it has to shatter their souls knowing a climber went against their experience and knowledge and decided to risk their lives, and many times lose their lives. Losing a climber is a burden the Sherpa has to carry for the rest of their lives, not the idiotic climber who died because of their stupidity.
Back in the 60s four Americans snuck into the north side of Everest. Its written in a book called " Four Against Everest" by Woodrow Wilson Sayer. There is another non Everest book about four italians who escaped a prisoner of war camp to climb Mt. Kenya. Their book is " No Picnic on Mt. Kenya " after the ascent they returned to the POW camp. Fun reads both. Vaya con Dios.
Good to see you add Nims in this, he is not a climber I would ever feel safe with, especially as a women, he puts ego before anything and loves the power he has gotten
I read a whole expose that Swiss newspaper did. There is even skepticism if he climbed all 14 mountains legally. Glad his record has been broken. There has even been sexual misconduct allegations against him. But its sad he has become too powerful that he can silence people.
@@shabster90 and even better his record was broken by Kristin Harilla, a woman. I always get the sense that despite him being a very strong climber, he is very ambitious to the point where his decisions are questionable.
The second you think you're stronger than the mountain, it'll kill you.
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Finally, a good commentary doc on Everest's unnecessary deaths. Not overly dramatic and mainly accurate- except the part about Everest being 29,000 feet above ground. That got a chuckle.
I'm a bit confused and hope someone can help clarify. At 10:37 the narrator says, "When Marco started his journey up the mountain (aka Everest), he had to trek through deep snowy conditions. It took him 12 1/2 hours to reach the top." That has to be some kind of error because no one is capable of climbing Mt Everest in only just over 12 hours. Might the narrator have meant from camp 4?
If you're going to climb somebody else's mountain, then you have to pay the ticket price. You're Rich! (Because you don't pay Your dues right?) Stop being so selfish. Mountain people are poor. Pay Your Bills! 🤨
@@robinceuppens2178 My response appears to have been deleted. So I'll paraphrase. "That's not what I said. You're an idiot!" Let's see if that disappears too? 🤔
@@robinceuppens2178 Well, it also needs to be said that the sherpas deserve to be paid MUCH more than they currently are for not only just having to pave the way for their rich clientele but also schlepping everything up for them as well, even their damn underwear. And not only that, but that clientele can't be bothered to clean up after themselves (that's just too taxing) so they eagerly pay the $5K fine for leaving their trail of crap and excrement in their wake because... they're rich! That industry is such a farce now. It's really sad.
@@hanktoniit’s not extraordinary at all anymore. It’s now just a dangerous walk. You have zero idea what it would take to blaze trail , set your own ropes up , etc. this is far from mountaineering as you can get. I dislike people like you. Can’t accomplish anything by yourself. Pay the fee go feel like it’s something special but in reality it’s not.
@hanktoni, don't you eat chips and drink beer? I bet the climbers did, too. This achievement is mainly about inflated egos. The couple at the end had a young boy who begged them not to go, but their egos were more important. They even climbed with no oxygen so that they would become famous and be apart from other climbers. They made their mark, but not in the way they had hoped.
When you say that Marco was likely done in my the weather on the summit and the storm coming in isnt thought out. He went down the mountain faster than his Sherpa partners. What did him in was mean old Mr. Gravity!
The dead climbers bodies are left on the mountain like trash. The judgment day of God Almighty is coming,and pray for that day to come soon,and all the people that disrespected God,and his laws. Will be consequences.
I lost a lot of empathy for her when « she » said that. A life is a life. They weren’t gonna make the decision or not to save her based on where she was from.
it actually seems quite common for them to say in a moment of crisis. its not the first time. it's just arrogant and entitled to think everyone around would go "OH!? an AMERICAN?! QUICK EVERYONE" like... we are all humans here
The one thing I gather in common with all of these Everest stories (in other channels and other stories I've heard growing up) is that the types of people who seek to pull of this sort of endeavor are _the most utterly horridly selfish people_ I have ever heard of. Leaving people to literally freeze to death simply because people don't "feel like waiting another day" and such. Just sick. The human ego is our own worst enemy at times.
That is simply not true. They are not leaving because they don’t want to help; most of them want to help, but they can't. After hiking that high in such a thin atmosphere, they have zero to very little energy. They are unable to carry the weight of an additional person plus all the equipment that person has. You also have to remember that they have to walk across ladders and climb treacherous passes, which is not easy to do when you have used up all your energy and carrying 75 pounds of equipment. How can they expected to also carry someone? I know it may seem heartless, but it is reality. Everyone who climbs Mount Everest knows that there is a chance that they can die, and if they run into trouble, chances are no one might be able to help them. This is what they agreed to, this is what they signed up for.
These idiots keep dying because... they keep trying to do it without oxygen! WTF? If I had to choose between a coat and oxygen on Mt. Everest I'm always choosing the oxygen. It takes a long time to freeze to death but oxygen is something you can't live more than a few minutes without! People also keep dying because... Everest is the first mountain they've ever climbed or rather walked out! WTF would you make Everest your first mountain rather than spending years practicing for?
The last one,the couple .so they got separated and when the husband found his way to the camp and she wasn’t there,of course that must have bothered him to no end but when other climbers came down and told him there was still a women up there alive ,he knew it was his wife so he hurried up got ready and left to go find her by himself .such a sad loving tragic story because he and his wife are now gone forever rip sweet couple 😢
They were not a sweet couple. They had an 11-year-old son who had begged them not to leave him to go climb Everest. This couple appears to have been two self-absorbed egotistical maniacs. Poor parents, I would say.
It’s so sad how ignorant and self righteous people like you can be, while not knowing anything about what you’re talking about. When climbing Mount Everest climbers come in groups that are usually based on nationality of the climbers so they can differentiate each other at camps 123 and 4 and climb together (the Chinese team, the Italian team, the Korean team on K2 etc). She was freezing and frost bitten beyond recognition, so she was saying “I’m American” so that the other climbers knew what group she was with. She was from the American team
You made a mistake... When discussing Fran you said in 1998 she became the first American female to reach the top of Everest. If she reached the top of Everest in 1998, she was FAR from the first American female to do so. There had been MANY American females to reach the peak before 1998. Heck Charlotte Fox and even Sandy Hill-Pittman reached the summit and survived the 1996 disaster that was the Rob Hall led team and the Scott Fischer led team. I know of a few before that year as well... I just wanted to remind you of that... now she might have been the first to summit without supplemental oxygen but I'm not even sure that is the case.
Such a weird sport...there are some real sad stories tragedies to tell about climbers on mountains like everest. But..its such a serious decision to go up there that I assume these people are aware of the risk they take. Even an super experienced climber can die if his body can't adjust for whatever reason.
Calling it a "sport" is wired. Sad that people have no clue what to call physical activity other then some stupid assed competition between overpaid and overgrowm children.
There is evidence the first group DID alert base camp. The guy who was supposed to have received the transmission says he didn't. Call logs say he did. Maybe there was a malfunction, but the first group who found him reported him. Or at least tried.
Come on, Fran was not the first US female on Everest. That was Stacey Allison in 1988 and first North American female was several years earlier Sharon Wood from Canada. I am a retired climber and facts are important
@@rubikksu3913 Hey Ruby, while you sit on your couch and eat pretzels and have your 4th coke of the morning, real climbers such as myself have endured storms at high altitude, climbed vertical ice, ventured on mountains around the world. But sure, use your sarcasm as a wannabe climber who uses virtual reality to pretend that you take risk and have any skills……ha ha ha
@@lilmeers2424Using comprehension and listening skills is a pretty risky thing to do. One risks realizing one spoke out of turn and now sounds like an egomaniac resorting to personal slurs instead of admitting error. I have no idea who went up when, but I'm pretty sure if you have to resort to insults, it means you don't know either. Remember, I don't eat pretzels, I can't remember which year it was that I last drank coke, and the only snow mountain exhibition I have been on is excavating my car from out of two feet of snow because I left it parked for a weekend. I did walk up a ski hill that one time in the summer and that's almost like being a wannabe. That should help you find some accurate insults for me.
Sir Ed should know that you can’t save someone on Everest. David chose to climb independently and with no oxygen so it was his own fault. And to put the blame on a double amputee was just crazy. And I’ll go to my grave believing that Mallory and Irvine reached the summit first but there’s no proof and it has to be proved 😢😢😢
@@sleepdeprived9181 David was with Asian Trekking who did little except provide him with food at base camp and the permission to climb independently. They didn’t even care when he died so why is everyone to blame but them. They took his money (watch dying for Everest and there will be a better understanding how it went down. Don’t watch the poor quality one though. Watch the one that is free with ads )
It looks fun. But I would never leave trash up there or go if crowded like it is now. And I’d turn around if the conditions weren’t pristine. I’d still be happy to just make it to one of the camps.
I would think it achievement enough to see base camp for myself, but my health would make attempting to climb it dangerously stupid and put others at risk as well as myself.
People should have to follow the rules in that country,and they should be fined for braking the rules. It doesn't matter if u like the rules or not. Don't go to that country.
I attempted to reach Everest illegally in 1983 by crossing from Darjeeling ... going back round and entering from south took forever, the train continually stopped for hours and even started going backwards
I agree with Sir Hillary on his take on David Sharpe. I lot of Sherpa are capable of bringing him back, with team work. But they cant, because customers have paid them to take them to the summit, and not to rescue people. Seen it done in documentaries.
Have you heard of the people who died trying to rescue fallen climbers? Did you hear about the part where two of the strongest Sherpas on the mountain couldn't save Sharp? Sharp is not in the cave anymore because they managed to drag him out, but they couldn't get him down. If it was just you and me in the woods in -30C weather with knee deep snow and you broke a leg, I'm sorry but you are going to have to hope I can hike out and get in contact with search and rescue in time because there ain't no way I'm getting you out myself. Based on my experience in those conditions, that's my assumption. I'm sure Everest is even sketchier in terms of rescue.
What selfish people Fran and Serghe was. They had a son and left him an orphan, and for what? How does that benefit the child in need of parents? Selfishness is a real sickness and it’s an epidemic in this world.
Having to get a permit for a specific route, I imagine, would also assure that rescuers know where to look for you, and that authorities can track how many people are on any route at a given time (although they don't seem to do much with that information...)
I'm on Lydia's side;; because its a life altering climb and the person climbing should choose what's better for them.!! She may have taken the permitted route and lost her life.!! The point is that she made it to the summit without someone's leash around her neck.!! Succeed or Die;; this reason alone shows me that my decisions matter.!! 😊😊😊
actually the first group who pasted david, tried to radio in the base camp but it didnt connect so they never got the message about david :( it wasnt until the last group that past him was able to finally connect to basecamp via radio that everyone found out about him and his death
They do it for the exercise, the challenge, and the beauty of experiencing nature. Do you go on a hike for bragging rights? No one brags about going on hikes, they just like exercising in nature. You just like sitting on your phone and watching other people live life, so yeah you’re right that could never be you.
Can you imagine a body frozen in time, preserved for over 18 years in the exact position they died, and in the mean time considered a "land mark" (Green Boots)? Eerie!
400 dollars for one route and 11 thousand for another route.!! Same mountain but Politics and Fee's are already waiting for you if you reach the Summit.!! 😢😮😢😢😮😢
Is it possible to dig in make a small snow cave and wait out the stormy weather ?also conserve your energy, warm up at the same time ,I don’t know I’ve never been there, but please tell me.
It's the lack of oxygen that kills most people. Also, when you become hypothermic, you start to feel too hot, and in a stupor, start removing clothing.
It depends on where you are on the mountain. Non-climbers watching videos on their phone tend to ignore the Death Zone & the fact that once you reach it, your body literally starts dying. It's why you can't stay on the summit too long. It's why if you're exhausted & think (yes, decision making is impaired too) it's okay to rest for a bit while still in the DZ is a bad idea. A climber in distress in the DZ to the point that they are unable to walk....they can't be rescued up there. It's called DZ for a reason.
At lower altitudes sure. Snow does work as an insulator. But the level of cold effects how that snow cave is built, how deep and how thick the walls. The entire timeof course requires exertion to do, which means youre probably sweating and that sweat will chill you to death if you arent carefull. Wet socks and wet underlayers are a good way to die/lose toes on any mountain. You're body heat can also warm it up enough that the inside layer starts dripping, which is fine when you're sitting inside but a death sentence once you leave. You're also battling hypoxia, cold, compromised thinking etc. On everest at least the snow is not very good for building snowcaves for warmth. Much like snowmen, you need a certain kind of snow. There's also many areas to unstable, narrow, or close to edges to build a snow cave. On top of that once you're in the dead zone you're body is actively dying the longer you're there. There's a phenomenon too where you get so cold so fast that your body starts thinking it's too hot. This is your body's last ditch effort to keep you alive and like alcohol gives an illusion of warmth where there is none. Because you feel hot af and your delusional, hypoxic, and doing a jig on deaths doorstep you start stripping. You're brain literally tricks you into thinking you're burning hot and you take off your clothes in the delusional state to walk about naked and die. Thats not even accounting for altitude sickness. It can take weeks between base camp 1 and two to acclimate to the height and it gets harder as you go up. I've been up everest and k2. Everest is a climb that requires a lot of technical skills on top of survival skills. I went up just before they removed Green Boots. It took three attempts for me to summit everest and twice for k2. Haven't climbed any of the other 14 peaks yet (permits are expensive and so is travel). But yes, I've seen Greenboots and Sleeping Beauty along with the other bodies used as trail markers.
I'm a Canadian. Yes, you can totally dig a snow cave and sleep in it. Make sure there are two levels, a ledge of sleep on and a pit to act as a cold sink. But I have felt -35C before and it is absolutely terrible, I hate it. I don't even want to imagine -45C. There was nothing I wore that could keep the chill out and I only managed to endure it because I kept moving. That being said, none of what I wore was a down jacket. Wind chill is a very important factor, so if you can keep out of the wind, that is huge in terms of survival. I have heard in other documentaries that oxygen is important for keeping warm. There's stories of people doing that at lower altitudes, digging or finding a cave and waiting out a storm. I myself have sought shelter from the wind while still outside in super cold weather.
8:04 This is Polish climber Piotr Krzyżowski who has achieved a historic feat by summiting both Mount Everest and Lhotse without the use of supplemental oxygen or the assistance of Sherpas in 2024
permits for what to die ? what shocks me is bottle necking in the death zone waiting hours or days to climb up a mountain with a hundred people infront of you.
Still dont feel bad about David Sharpe and the character assassination on the climbers that passed him by deep in the death zone was ill informed and malignant. David Sharpe was already dead at 28,000+ feet in his condition and with no oxygen.
@24:07 The respect in my heart for Sergei n the pain for Friee, God you know only I've ever called you Friee, may you forever in pride and glory rest in PEACE, shall never end... And shall forever exist to the moon and back ❤️🩹
I don't buy it, if you are trying to break a record and you spend tens of thousands in the attempt, you sure as hell would bring some way to prove you managed to do it, and you would make use of it. No prof means she did not make it to the top.
The Sherpas are literally the ones running the commercial expeditions. Where do you get this dumb idea that they would abandon the one industry that brings this region millions every year that they helped build? UA-cam? 😂
The first story: i don't really understand why an easier route was not permitted, why would she not be allowed to get a permit for the more accessible route? Or was she allowed but neglected to select that permit and then decided to use that route? why would that be closed to her but open to the Spanish team? I'm just unclear on that part
These people are highly motivated and obviously willing to take risks with their own lives. If these people are that motivated, then dieing on the mountain, something that they were willing to do.
These climbers make their own decisions to climb. No one else is responsible for others on these mountains. No one else is obligated to risk their life to save them. Climbers like her, care about fame, records, attention, boosting their own egos to feel important. They have no right to break the law, and think there should be no consequences. Another example of their selfishness, narcissism, egos that make them feel special and different than others, better than others. I don’t look up to them or gheir “ achievements. To me, they are and shallow.
Thank God for that “Viewer Discretion Is Advised” warning. Without it, I would have been emotionally damaged with no resort other than to find a lawyer and institute legal action!
Even if I could climb Everest I wouldn't want to just on the possibility of dying and or having to try and save somebody and having to make the choice to leave them to save myself. Fuck that.
The same people who have to rescue this people, who aren’t supposed to be there, should have the power to arrest people putting others in danger. Make them just like lifeguards in the beach in Hawaii
Do you think climbing Everest is brave or stupid?
fearless, humans can only get so bored everest is the ultimate challenge
Yes
It's both
stupid, sucessive groups have littered the slopes with clothing, human waste, empty oxygen bottles etc, some foolish people don't even bother to do their homework or take proper precautions, they pay ridiculous sums of money, whilst their sherpas, who act as guides, porters etc get paid peanuts
These days, stupid.
Not listening to sherpas...a sign of fatal ignorance. 😞
Yet it's always the brave and humble Sherpas who help rescue them if / when they get stuck or worse, terrible disrespect the sherpas go through. 🌌🙏
"I don't know about that. I ignore the warnings of my Indian scouts and do OK": George A. Custer
They need make it a law to listen to the sherpas
Ofcourse u must listen to sherpas. But u must also keep in mind that listening to your sherpas may not be enough. U can still die. So, u must always listen to your sherpas and not take insane decisions on your own.
You mean like when they lied about Meissner using oxygen, when he clear!y did not.
Years later, stories STILL blaming the other climbers for David Sharp? NO. No other climber is obligated to risk their own life to save someone else, especially an 8k peak. Their own bodies are literally dying for every minute they're up there. Approve of it or not, the fact is simple. You climb, you accept the risk and you accept it for yourself. You could die up there and that's your own choice.
The pictures of long lines waiting to summit are crazy. I think some of have lost sight of what is important. Also the trash thing is so disappointing ;the lack of disrespect for land that is not theirs is heart breaking.
* lack of respect. I agree. Sad.
Hiking and climbing changed after instagram. Before if you wanted to know about a trial, you looked at some websites and books, trained, packed carefully, and went. Now it’s about getting the exact same photo as everyone else at the landmarks. It’s ridiculous. So many gorgeous trails get corked by people on a cell phone journey, in sneakers and not even carrying water, and then mountain rescue has to go retrieve them and their basket of trash.
China respects that land for sure.
Smh
My favourite part is that, if I'm not mistaken, someone who had prosthetics and thus was already at more risk because of it was also climbing around the time Sharp was dying and because he physically could not help him, he was one of the ones being blasted the most by the media for not stopping to help? Like...hello? Sharp's life was not worth more than that man's, and vice versa. If you climb Everest you know what risks you're taking and if you aren't able to make it back down, and help isn't able to make it up to you WITH THE SPECIFIC INTENT TO HELP, then the people who pass you by are not responsible for saving you if they aren't able to.
Now this isn't to say just pass them by and ignore them. See if there's anything you CAN do if you're safely able to. Radio for help, or just try to make them a bit more comfortable. But DO NOT put your own life at risk up there by putting yourself at a disadvantage. But if you ARE more safely able to help, then do not just walk past them and pretend you didn't see their struggles. If the summit is worth more than the life of someone you could genuinely have helped, you need to reevaluate your values and morals.
Hillary himself blamed him an dishonored him for not helping Sharp. Like, is he finally out of his mind? A guy with both legs doomed that reached summit? And the location of green boots itself is so far up, rescue takes time to reach it. On a mountain like Everest it is complicated enought to stay alive anyway and reach summit AND come back down in one piece. Anyone go up there does know what he is doing and risking. Don't blame others for not helping you, be happy if you get help from people that in this moment put themselfs in danger by wasting prescious time in death zone.
Well said
Normally they can’t be helped.
The "willing to descend" is the part people struggle with sometimes because admittedly Everest is a VERY costly expedition, and one that people can't pay for more than once in a lifetime if you aren't extremely well-off financially.
But the world really needs to realize that the circumstances in which you can actually do anything that will help or save that person's life are INCREDIBLY specific and require a lot of different things to be in place at the same time, and if you aren't able to meet those requirements, it SHOULD NOT be your responsibility for you to stop and spend your precious resources on saving someone who is likely a lost cause without risking you own life. It's easy to say "You should value human life above everything else! They deserve to live! You should have helped them!" when you're comfortable in your chair or bed watching a video about Everest victims and aren't there in person with someone's life on the line and your own life at risk if you stop and help.
The problem is that they lied about trying to help him, calling base camp etc. If they had owned their decision to ignore Sharp there probably wouldn't have been so much controversy.
Taking a helicopter to camp 2, means you really didn’t climb the
mountain, so claims should not be recognized. And to take clients through
an illegal passage in the icefall?……well what if EVERYONE did that. What
could happen then. What makes him think he is so special, above the
law, above other people. Ego. Not skill.
Indeed, go from basecamp, go all the way on ur own steam, and adhere to the rules, or it doesnt count. And breaking the rules also endangers every1 else on the mountain. There should definitely be penalties.
@DL-cs6fz There are not many helicopter operators in Nepal and Tibet, fewer still with aircraft having a service ceiling allowing reaching Camp 2 loaded. Finding the pilot and operator would not be difficult. The pilot could hardly plead ignorance about his passengers or the gear they were carrying. Aside from a reprimand for sheer asinine stupidity, was the pilot who made this unlawful trip grounded or charged? What were the penalties for the company? Not many high-mountain chopper pilots or aircraft are available, but the government doesn't tolerate cowboys. What, if anything, happened for their part in this stunt? Just flying in to Katmandu used to require a special license endorsement. If you didn't have one, the fine upon landing - even if in one piece - was very un-funny. Some pretty definite questions would be asked about that trip.
@@dfuher968 true there are many ways to seek adrenalin where you wouldn´t endanger anyone but yourself
Do you have any idea what you are talking about? I was one of the first women team to climb Annapurna. The Everest climb does not even begin until you get to Khumbu. please when you offer opinions think about what you are talking about.
The helicopter and icefall route were considered illegal. Not just my idea.
Becoming a landmark on Everest sucks in and of itself. Realizing, you've paid $40,000 - $90,000 for this dubious pleasure must be the kicker, though.
If you have $90K to spend on one vacation, you really don’t care about the outcome.
@@feet300I’m sure they would prefer to live, what a stupid comment lol
@@hanktoni idk my man, I think most dead people wish they were alive
Yeah, just imagine you're up in heaven and look down at your body, and everybody is referring to you as "green boots". That must feel weird.
@@Petra44YTlol its seriously funny
Believing your family member last seen on a deadly mountain is in Tibet living his best life is massive amounts of copium
Lmao exactly what I was thinking
@farihasultanaazha Grief can do weird things to ppl. If thats what she needs to believe to be able to handle her grief, let her. Shes not hurting any1.
Now we're also going to criticize how someone deals with a devastating situation? Do you really criticize even the smallest stupidity these days?
people tell themselves all sorts of things to cope.
"Denial isn't just a river in Egypt". Mark Twain?
You know how in parks they ask you not to hike off trail because it could damage the environment? Yeah. Enough people climb Everest annually (too many people, really) that it already causes wear and tear on the mountain, and there's a lot of garbage left behind, which can't be easily retrieved. The permit system isn't without its flaws, but taking an illegal route is selfish.
nothing you said makes sense other than trash cant be easily retried off everest. but it doesnt really matter. the earth regenerates and in the future when weve killed ourselves with nuclear war, there will be no evidence that anyone ever climbed everest. and even farther into the future, everest wont exist anymore as erosion will carry it into the ocean
Protecting the environment is important. Do u not realize u don't have another planet to live on?
Yeah. Their footsteps will wear the mountain down until it’s not the tallest mountain. They will also kill all the animals and plants living up there. 😂
I agree about it being selfish, not to mention irresponsible to take routes that are without permits or unnecessary risk taking just to push the so called "LIMITS".
Whilst it makes perfectly sense to me that life isn't all about safety, it makes even more sense to me that safety measures can safe lives, specially in those life-threatening adventures.
And not to forget, apart from their own safety, the environmental damage they are creating there.
I think the passion for climbing should be more about the experience of climbing, not the ultimate goal of reaching the top or not.
Is that picture or swift moment on the top, really so representative of your passion for climbing mountains?
Personally I think it is a created illusion, without any depth to it, and it also is a dangerous and irresponsible goal, for yourself and others who want to save u.
If weather conditions are good, and your body is still working fine, than it seems ok to me if u want to make it to the top.
But otherwise just turn around, think about your life, put your life and family above reaching the top., and keep the joy of climbing in your heart. This way u can repeat your passion and live to tell the stories.
People who break the rules on Everest should get a lifetime ban from coming anywhere near the mountain ever again.
How many people climb the mountain twice?
Ban from the country would probably be a better deterrent as they’re more likely to want to visit the country again.
People (Sherpas, tour guides, a tour manager) have died by staying with dying climbers, leaving their last bottle of O² with them higher on the mountain, or by trying to carry dying climbers down from the death zone.
Dying on the mountain due to ill-preparedness of any form, is almost a choice, when it comes down to it.
@@NavigatorMother I agree.
@@NavigatorMother
Yes, as a fine will mean little.
Or extend their stay with some community service time.
Agreed! And the snowboard guy….WTF. FORGET it.
David Sharp's tale is sad. But how many reckless decisions can you make and still expect others to risk their lives to save yours?
But this is the thing he didn't expect people to save him, he didn't expect it atall.
@@deekey33
Agree 100%.
My comment was to the folks posting their indignation about other climbers on the mountain not changing all their plans and risking their own lives to attempt a rescue.
@@deekey33he didn't, but the media expected a double amputee to carry David down.
@Shdeffie yh that guy got a lot of crap, even off Hilary ! Idk why he was targeted so much. Weird
@@deekey33 Exactly.
If you want to take the risk to climb to the top of the world, that's on you. You want the ultimate prize, then be willing to pay the ultimate price.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Blaming other climbers for Sharp's death is ignorant. Obviously, if he can't even answer them, nobody is going to be able to get him down the mountain
I agree. I wondered if he was waving them away because he knew he put himself in that situation and didn't want them to risk their lives to try to save him when he knew they couldn't help.
Human life is more important than climbing. I bet youre a pro lifer, too.
@@grrrrbabyverygrrr8165So just his life matters?
The numbers now climbing Everest is WAY too many for the enviroment & safety. They also put the Sherpa's lives at risk.
There should be a restriction on the number of people allowed to climb! Green boots is just macabre.
They reduced the number of permits a little in 2024 and claimed they need to take their trash out.
Biggest problem is that a LOT of the immediate local economy is based around Everest tourism. For some of the Sherpas and their families the money they get from the trips to the mountain is infinitely more than what they’d get otherwise.
They won't restrict Mt. Everest climbing permits - the local government wants that permit money and the sherpas want the jobs.
@@alidabotes6264 Agree completely. When I had too many pie orders I raised the price and made the same money with less work. But I see what others are saying, the local restaurants or whatever are benefitting so they want more people even if it trashes the place and downstream too. Same old story since the beginning of agriculture.
No one puts the Sherpas at risk but themselves, they are literally the ones who run the commercial expeditions (or help run it when working with foreign guides). Sherpas aren’t forced to climb the mountain and most of them don’t, the ones that do choose to do it themselves.
People are dreaming if they think they can rescue people at that height it’s called the death zone for a reason
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People often forget, getting up the mountain is optional. Getting down is mandatory.
There are so many stupid people out there. I've seen suggestions to drive up with snowmobiles and get them, and the best one, run extension cords up Mt Everest with electric heaters to get the frozen bodies out of the ice. Morons hear Mt Everest and think of a really big hill they saw one time 😂
Oh my gosh….not David again. He made his own decisions.
He knew the risks. Even his mother says that he wouldn’t
have wanted other climbers risking their lives for him.
if you are ok with paying Disney for a ticket into their parks then please pay the Nepalese government for visiting their mountain 🙄 what makes it worse is that not paying for the permit is akin to robbing a homeless man. the Nepalese really need that money
maybe they should just get a job then
@@thchrisah yes, the nepalese government should get a job. Maybe the entire country's government can work as a taxi driver or something
@@thchris Job? are you hiring ? Because I don't think there are any good paying jobs in Nepal mate.
Love it when Americans just assume everyone else is poor. Especially Americans who don't even have a passport.
The Nepalese seem to just hand out permits to anyone willing to pay though, regardless of whether it is appropriate
I’ve watched a lot of tragic Mt Everest video but this one has got to be the best I’ve seen. Excellent narration, right to the point, with a little bit of a background for understanding the climber. Not overly done, and grabbed my attention all the way through.
Other videos are just too long and dragged. It would go way off tangent sometimes which made it difficult to follow. I learned a lot more from this video than any other.
People are not respecting the mountain. It has become too commercialized; and I am not even a climber. I am in awe of those who attempt and achieve summiting these majestic peaks; but people need to realize that they are not triumphing over them. There is a difference between conquering nature and respecting it. The real achievement is made when you can surmount something while respecting it, and at the same time not destroying it. This is just my humble opinion.
its hubris to think that you can destroy a mountain. even if you knock it down, its called erosion, and its a natural process
@@will.green. shut up
Climbing anything with a serious reputation is going to demand respect. There is no other option. It is an in your face sport. I have heard people talk about how easy a climb is going to be only to see them cry their way up. Once Climbing starts respect comes with it. Even easy climbs are fun and garner respect. Everest gets its respect no matter who is Climbing
Conquered and respected are two VERY different things dear. Most women I history were conquered, willingly. Very few ever respected.
I just watched a new 3 part nat geo special called Arctic Ascent on Disney+ about climbing face cliffs in the middle of nowhere Greenland to get climate data to study & try to climb 2 magnificent faces w/ iconic climber Alex Honnold. Now that was watching a group of people who truly respected where they were, making it up never before climbed cliffs higher than El Cap. Highly recommend.
I've read theres a lot of trash up there that pople have left. That should be illegal. If you pack it in, you pack it out. A lot of spoiled rich brats not caring.
And it smells bad i heard. And sadly, even the river got contaminated now too!
Pisses me off that they can't even clean up after themselves, I guess their maids and butlers didn't go on the trip.
It’s hard to enforce rules on top a mountain. Even if it is illegal someone actually has to enforce the rules
Why do you care? You'll never see it. Why not go to one of the many shit hole leftist cities and help clean it up.
@@bonelessizationNo its not. If the right rules are in place,and enforced every time. People don't get away with it..
Arrogance and hubris is the number one killer on any mountain!
Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer
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If there are punishments for climbing an illegal route, there should also be punishments for disobeying the Sherpa when they say to not do something because it is too dangerous, with documenting evidence of course. Most Sherpa carry cell phones now, so a video could be taken, or a radio call where others can hear the climber directly going against the Sherpa. Sherpa are there to help the climbers get up and down alive, not just carry everyone's stuff. They are a humble and caring group of people and it has to shatter their souls knowing a climber went against their experience and knowledge and decided to risk their lives, and many times lose their lives. Losing a climber is a burden the Sherpa has to carry for the rest of their lives, not the idiotic climber who died because of their stupidity.
I think climbers should be charged a fee to make sure Sherpas have a body cam. There's too many jerks who like to toy with their careers.
Sir Edmund Hillary is not the first person to climb Mount Everest...what about Sherpa Tenzing Norgay ? They both reached the peak together
one of them was the first to reach the top.
Back in the 60s four Americans snuck into the north side of Everest. Its written in a book called " Four Against Everest" by Woodrow Wilson Sayer. There is another non Everest book about four italians who escaped a prisoner of war camp to climb Mt. Kenya. Their book is " No Picnic on Mt. Kenya " after the ascent they returned to the POW camp. Fun reads both. Vaya con Dios.
Oh wow I need to read these .thanks for the info .sounds like a good read for sure ❤
I love the idea that they escaped just to climb a mountain and then came back!
Good to see you add Nims in this, he is not a climber I would ever feel safe with, especially as a women, he puts ego before anything and loves the power he has gotten
I read a whole expose that Swiss newspaper did. There is even skepticism if he climbed all 14 mountains legally. Glad his record has been broken.
There has even been sexual misconduct allegations against him. But its sad he has become too powerful that he can silence people.
@@shabster90 and even better his record was broken by Kristin Harilla, a woman. I always get the sense that despite him being a very strong climber, he is very ambitious to the point where his decisions are questionable.
@tonamie211 Yes. I was so happy when his record got broken. This man is too egoistic and someone gave him title of "Harvey Winstein of Mountaineering"
The second you think you're stronger than the mountain, it'll kill you.
Finally, a good commentary doc on Everest's unnecessary deaths. Not overly dramatic and mainly accurate- except the part about Everest being 29,000 feet above ground. That got a chuckle.
I'm a bit confused and hope someone can help clarify. At 10:37 the narrator says, "When Marco started his journey up the mountain (aka Everest), he had to trek through deep snowy conditions. It took him 12 1/2 hours to reach the top." That has to be some kind of error because no one is capable of climbing Mt Everest in only just over 12 hours. Might the narrator have meant from camp 4?
If you're going to climb somebody else's mountain, then you have to pay the ticket price.
You're Rich! (Because you don't pay Your dues right?)
Stop being so selfish.
Mountain people are poor.
Pay Your Bills! 🤨
u thinking the permit money is going to the people living there is crazy
@@robinceuppens2178
Did I say that?
No! I didn't!
So STFU! 😁
@@robinceuppens2178
My response appears to have been deleted.
So I'll paraphrase.
"That's not what I said.
You're an idiot!"
Let's see if that disappears too? 🤔
@@robinceuppens2178 Well, it also needs to be said that the sherpas deserve to be paid MUCH more than they currently are for not only just having to pave the way for their rich clientele but also schlepping everything up for them as well, even their damn underwear. And not only that, but that clientele can't be bothered to clean up after themselves (that's just too taxing) so they eagerly pay the $5K fine for leaving their trail of crap and excrement in their wake because... they're rich! That industry is such a farce now. It's really sad.
Its a mountain mate, you shouldn't have to pay to go into nature.
In a world 🌎 where almost everything is wanted instantly, patience is a lost art
I think climbing Everest is selfish & stupid, especially if you have underage children.
Yes, miss fascistic authority.... opinion are like ass-holes, every has one but only produce shit ^^
Not to mention a ludicrous achievement when everything except moving your legs is being done for you.
You probably drink beer and chips and don’t understand how a human could want to accomplish something extraordinary
@@hanktoniit’s not extraordinary at all anymore. It’s now just a dangerous walk. You have zero idea what it would take to blaze trail , set your own ropes up , etc. this is far from mountaineering as you can get. I dislike people like you. Can’t accomplish anything by yourself. Pay the fee go feel like it’s something special but in reality it’s not.
@hanktoni, don't you eat chips and drink beer? I bet the climbers did, too. This achievement is mainly about inflated egos. The couple at the end had a young boy who begged them not to go, but their egos were more important. They even climbed with no oxygen so that they would become famous and be apart from other climbers. They made their mark, but not in the way they had hoped.
When you say that Marco was likely done in my the weather on the summit and the storm coming in isnt thought out. He went down the mountain faster than his Sherpa partners. What did him in was mean old Mr. Gravity!
The dead climbers bodies are left on the mountain like trash. The judgment day of God Almighty is coming,and pray for that day to come soon,and all the people that disrespected God,and his laws. Will be consequences.
Permit fees should be raised to where it really hurts. And no more group permits, all individual.
That might slow some of the traffic.
I love your voice and the way you tell their stories.Thankyou
Thank you so much! That means a lot to me. 😊🎙
I just love how Mount Everest went from climbing at your own risk to a full blown business run by the government.
"I am an American" 😅 Sorry, but that its so american. Well, the Mountain doesnt care!
I lost a lot of empathy for her when « she » said that. A life is a life. They weren’t gonna make the decision or not to save her based on where she was from.
100% GROSS
yes it sounds horribly arrogant.. i dont know if it makes it better or worse she was delirious when she said that.
it actually seems quite common for them to say in a moment of crisis. its not the first time. it's just arrogant and entitled to think everyone around would go "OH!? an AMERICAN?! QUICK EVERYONE" like... we are all humans here
Should've heard that and left her there to rot. What an entitled worm
The one thing I gather in common with all of these Everest stories (in other channels and other stories I've heard growing up) is that the types of people who seek to pull of this sort of endeavor are _the most utterly horridly selfish people_ I have ever heard of. Leaving people to literally freeze to death simply because people don't "feel like waiting another day" and such. Just sick. The human ego is our own worst enemy at times.
They can't rescue anyone above a certain height
That is simply not true. They are not leaving because they don’t want to help; most of them want to help, but they can't. After hiking that high in such a thin atmosphere, they have zero to very little energy. They are unable to carry the weight of an additional person plus all the equipment that person has. You also have to remember that they have to walk across ladders and climb treacherous passes, which is not easy to do when you have used up all your energy and carrying 75 pounds of equipment. How can they expected to also carry someone? I know it may seem heartless, but it is reality. Everyone who climbs Mount Everest knows that there is a chance that they can die, and if they run into trouble, chances are no one might be able to help them. This is what they agreed to, this is what they signed up for.
Dude you don't know what you're talking about.😂😂
You go up and save them then.
These idiots keep dying because... they keep trying to do it without oxygen! WTF? If I had to choose between a coat and oxygen on Mt. Everest I'm always choosing the oxygen. It takes a long time to freeze to death but oxygen is something you can't live more than a few minutes without! People also keep dying because... Everest is the first mountain they've ever climbed or rather walked out! WTF would you make Everest your first mountain rather than spending years practicing for?
The last one,the couple .so they got separated and when the husband found his way to the camp and she wasn’t there,of course that must have bothered him to no end but when other climbers came down and told him there was still a women up there alive ,he knew it was his wife so he hurried up got ready and left to go find her by himself .such a sad loving tragic story because he and his wife are now gone forever rip sweet couple 😢
They were not a sweet couple. They had an 11-year-old son who had begged them not to leave him to go climb Everest. This couple appears to have been two self-absorbed egotistical maniacs. Poor parents, I would say.
“I Am An American” tells much about personal priorities and the hubris of achieving as an entitled citizen of a fame-obsessed country…
Funny guy you are
As an American… you’re not wrong, unfortunately
It could just be something she said recently in response to a question (what's your nationality?) and was therefore in her working memory.
Yep... unfortunately your right about 9/10 Americans... being one myself
It’s so sad how ignorant and self righteous people like you can be, while not knowing anything about what you’re talking about.
When climbing Mount Everest climbers come in groups that are usually based on nationality of the climbers so they can differentiate each other at camps 123 and 4 and climb together (the Chinese team, the Italian team, the Korean team on K2 etc). She was freezing and frost bitten beyond recognition, so she was saying “I’m American” so that the other climbers knew what group she was with. She was from the American team
You made a mistake... When discussing Fran you said in 1998 she became the first American female to reach the top of Everest. If she reached the top of Everest in 1998, she was FAR from the first American female to do so. There had been MANY American females to reach the peak before 1998. Heck Charlotte Fox and even Sandy Hill-Pittman reached the summit and survived the 1996 disaster that was the Rob Hall led team and the Scott Fischer led team. I know of a few before that year as well... I just wanted to remind you of that... now she might have been the first to summit without supplemental oxygen but I'm not even sure that is the case.
I believe the first American woman without the use of supplemental oxygen.
Such a weird sport...there are some real sad stories tragedies to tell about climbers on mountains like everest. But..its such a serious decision to go up there that I assume these people are aware of the risk they take. Even an super experienced climber can die if his body can't adjust for whatever reason.
Calling it a "sport" is wired. Sad that people have no clue what to call physical activity other then some stupid assed competition between overpaid and overgrowm children.
There is evidence the first group DID alert base camp. The guy who was supposed to have received the transmission says he didn't. Call logs say he did. Maybe there was a malfunction, but the first group who found him reported him. Or at least tried.
Sleeping beauty? The romanticism of danger is disgusting in that community.
What his sister said was just absolutely beautiful. I bet he never stopped boarding. Just kept going. Boarding in spirit.
"Hey, there is a piece of pristine nature, let's ruin it with tourism "
Come on, Fran was not the first US female on Everest. That was Stacey Allison in 1988 and first North American female was several years earlier Sharon Wood from Canada. I am a retired climber and facts are important
first ever to solo ...comprehension and listening skills are important
@@rubikksu3913 Hey Ruby, while you sit on your couch and eat pretzels and have your 4th coke of the morning, real climbers such as myself have endured storms at high altitude, climbed vertical ice, ventured on mountains around the world. But sure, use your sarcasm as a wannabe climber who uses virtual reality to pretend that you take risk and have any skills……ha ha ha
@@lilmeers2424Using comprehension and listening skills is a pretty risky thing to do. One risks realizing one spoke out of turn and now sounds like an egomaniac resorting to personal slurs instead of admitting error.
I have no idea who went up when, but I'm pretty sure if you have to resort to insults, it means you don't know either.
Remember, I don't eat pretzels, I can't remember which year it was that I last drank coke, and the only snow mountain exhibition I have been on is excavating my car from out of two feet of snow because I left it parked for a weekend. I did walk up a ski hill that one time in the summer and that's almost like being a wannabe. That should help you find some accurate insults for me.
@@lilmeers2424Pathetic response
Marco's sister's story is just sad
And Elvis is still alive.
She’s doing what she needs to do to keep going , Very sad… & then again? Maybe he is
It crushed me I had to pause the video 😩
And made up.
Sir Ed should know that you can’t save someone on Everest. David chose to climb independently and with no oxygen so it was his own fault. And to put the blame on a double amputee was just crazy. And I’ll go to my grave believing that Mallory and Irvine reached the summit first but there’s no proof and it has to be proved 😢😢😢
Ive seen this done on a documentary. But that guy was part of the expedition.
@@sleepdeprived9181 David was with Asian Trekking who did little except provide him with food at base camp and the permission to climb independently. They didn’t even care when he died so why is everyone to blame but them. They took his money (watch dying for Everest and there will be a better understanding how it went down. Don’t watch the poor quality one though. Watch the one that is free with ads )
Riveting! I want to watch more. Thank you Frank
Using bodies as trail markers is so gruesome. Tells me everything I need to know about that place.
It looks fun. But I would never leave trash up there or go if crowded like it is now. And I’d turn around if the conditions weren’t pristine. I’d still be happy to just make it to one of the camps.
I'd hike to base camp. But I wouldn't climb. I intend to climb Mt Kosciusko but that is basically a simple day hike.
I would think it achievement enough to see base camp for myself, but my health would make attempting to climb it dangerously stupid and put others at risk as well as myself.
People should have to follow the rules in that country,and they should be fined for braking the rules. It doesn't matter if u like the rules or not. Don't go to that country.
I attempted to reach Everest illegally in 1983 by crossing from Darjeeling ... going back round and entering from south took forever, the train continually stopped for hours and even started going backwards
I agree with Sir Hillary on his take on David Sharpe. I lot of Sherpa are capable of bringing him back, with team work. But they cant, because customers have paid them to take them to the summit, and not to rescue people. Seen it done in documentaries.
Have you heard of the people who died trying to rescue fallen climbers? Did you hear about the part where two of the strongest Sherpas on the mountain couldn't save Sharp? Sharp is not in the cave anymore because they managed to drag him out, but they couldn't get him down.
If it was just you and me in the woods in -30C weather with knee deep snow and you broke a leg, I'm sorry but you are going to have to hope I can hike out and get in contact with search and rescue in time because there ain't no way I'm getting you out myself. Based on my experience in those conditions, that's my assumption. I'm sure Everest is even sketchier in terms of rescue.
Thank you for a good video.
You're welcome! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
What selfish people Fran and Serghe was. They had a son and left him an orphan, and for what? How does that benefit the child in need of parents? Selfishness is a real sickness and it’s an epidemic in this world.
Awesome video but Green Boots Hasnt been Removed, he is just covered in rocks now
Having to get a permit for a specific route, I imagine, would also assure that rescuers know where to look for you, and that authorities can track how many people are on any route at a given time (although they don't seem to do much with that information...)
I'm on Lydia's side;; because its a life altering climb and the person climbing should choose what's better for them.!! She may have taken the permitted route and lost her life.!! The point is that she made it to the summit without someone's leash around her neck.!! Succeed or Die;; this reason alone shows me that my decisions matter.!! 😊😊😊
actually the first group who pasted david, tried to radio in the base camp but it didnt connect so they never got the message about david :( it wasnt until the last group that past him was able to finally connect to basecamp via radio that everyone found out about him and his death
So these people do this for bragging rights? 😂😂😂😂 It could never be me
They do it for the exercise, the challenge, and the beauty of experiencing nature. Do you go on a hike for bragging rights? No one brags about going on hikes, they just like exercising in nature. You just like sitting on your phone and watching other people live life, so yeah you’re right that could never be you.
Can you imagine a body frozen in time, preserved for over 18 years in the exact position they died, and in the mean time considered a "land mark" (Green Boots)? Eerie!
400 dollars for one route and 11 thousand for another route.!! Same mountain but Politics and Fee's are already waiting for you if you reach the Summit.!! 😢😮😢😢😮😢
I don't even want to go to work today, dying on a mountain sounds a lot worse.
Lydia should have spent 90 days in a Nepalese prison. And then been fined $50,000 and banned for life.
Karen?….you left out flogging.
@@charlescouncill Chad? .... You left out "Who cares what some little country says, I'll do whatever I want because I'm so special"
No, she should have been forced to to clean up up some of the trash
@@charlescouncillsure that's be nice
Have you always been pathetic?
Is it possible to dig in make a small snow cave and wait out the stormy weather ?also conserve your energy, warm up at the same time ,I don’t know I’ve never been there, but please tell me.
It's the lack of oxygen that kills most people. Also, when you become hypothermic, you start to feel too hot, and in a stupor, start removing clothing.
I think it is not the cold that kills them but the lack of oxygen. The cold just makes it worse.
It depends on where you are on the mountain. Non-climbers watching videos on their phone tend to ignore the Death Zone & the fact that once you reach it, your body literally starts dying. It's why you can't stay on the summit too long.
It's why if you're exhausted & think (yes, decision making is impaired too) it's okay to rest for a bit while still in the DZ is a bad idea.
A climber in distress in the DZ to the point that they are unable to walk....they can't be rescued up there.
It's called DZ for a reason.
At lower altitudes sure. Snow does work as an insulator. But the level of cold effects how that snow cave is built, how deep and how thick the walls. The entire timeof course requires exertion to do, which means youre probably sweating and that sweat will chill you to death if you arent carefull. Wet socks and wet underlayers are a good way to die/lose toes on any mountain. You're body heat can also warm it up enough that the inside layer starts dripping, which is fine when you're sitting inside but a death sentence once you leave. You're also battling hypoxia, cold, compromised thinking etc. On everest at least the snow is not very good for building snowcaves for warmth. Much like snowmen, you need a certain kind of snow. There's also many areas to unstable, narrow, or close to edges to build a snow cave.
On top of that once you're in the dead zone you're body is actively dying the longer you're there.
There's a phenomenon too where you get so cold so fast that your body starts thinking it's too hot. This is your body's last ditch effort to keep you alive and like alcohol gives an illusion of warmth where there is none. Because you feel hot af and your delusional, hypoxic, and doing a jig on deaths doorstep you start stripping. You're brain literally tricks you into thinking you're burning hot and you take off your clothes in the delusional state to walk about naked and die.
Thats not even accounting for altitude sickness. It can take weeks between base camp 1 and two to acclimate to the height and it gets harder as you go up.
I've been up everest and k2. Everest is a climb that requires a lot of technical skills on top of survival skills. I went up just before they removed Green Boots. It took three attempts for me to summit everest and twice for k2. Haven't climbed any of the other 14 peaks yet (permits are expensive and so is travel). But yes, I've seen Greenboots and Sleeping Beauty along with the other bodies used as trail markers.
I'm a Canadian. Yes, you can totally dig a snow cave and sleep in it. Make sure there are two levels, a ledge of sleep on and a pit to act as a cold sink.
But I have felt -35C before and it is absolutely terrible, I hate it. I don't even want to imagine -45C. There was nothing I wore that could keep the chill out and I only managed to endure it because I kept moving. That being said, none of what I wore was a down jacket. Wind chill is a very important factor, so if you can keep out of the wind, that is huge in terms of survival.
I have heard in other documentaries that oxygen is important for keeping warm. There's stories of people doing that at lower altitudes, digging or finding a cave and waiting out a storm.
I myself have sought shelter from the wind while still outside in super cold weather.
8:04 This is Polish climber Piotr Krzyżowski who has achieved a historic feat by summiting both Mount Everest and Lhotse without the use of supplemental oxygen or the assistance of Sherpas in 2024
I can't help but think of these people as either Darwin award winners or losers.
permits for what to die ? what shocks me is bottle necking in the death zone waiting hours or days to climb up a mountain with a hundred people infront of you.
This is either written by AI, or someone desperately trying to hit a wordcount.
Edit: This entire channel is AI. Sigh. Garbage.
"Don't leave me, I'm an American".
Still dont feel bad about David Sharpe and the character assassination on the climbers that passed him by deep in the death zone was ill informed and malignant. David Sharpe was already dead at 28,000+ feet in his condition and with no oxygen.
@24:07 The respect in my heart for Sergei n the pain for Friee, God you know only I've ever called you Friee, may you forever in pride and glory rest in PEACE, shall never end... And shall forever exist to the moon and back ❤️🩹
I don't buy it, if you are trying to break a record and you spend tens of thousands in the attempt, you sure as hell would bring some way to prove you managed to do it, and you would make use of it. No prof means she did not make it to the top.
Saying “I am an American” isn’t a good way to obtain help. It’s likely to have the opposite effect.
With the way things are going on Everest, I wonder if there will be anymore Sherpas willing to work the mountain in a few years.
The Sherpas are literally the ones running the commercial expeditions. Where do you get this dumb idea that they would abandon the one industry that brings this region millions every year that they helped build? UA-cam? 😂
The first story: i don't really understand why an easier route was not permitted, why would she not be allowed to get a permit for the more accessible route? Or was she allowed but neglected to select that permit and then decided to use that route? why would that be closed to her but open to the Spanish team? I'm just unclear on that part
Somehow there were rumors about Everest mafia, who cut Nims ropes and caused bad reputation for Nims... seems like this video not mention this...
Notice how it's people who would never push themselves to climb and are comfortable from their computer chairs that are wagging their fingers?
In the death zone, everyone is physically on the edge. Trying save or help someone can be very risky.
Nice voice for AI, not robot sounding. ✅️
Just because it's there doesn't mean I have to conquer it.
Well, your mother was just sitting on the couch, so naturally I conquered her.
@@imaplayainmyownmind
Took you 2 months to think of that line?
Ahahahahahaha.
Live simple and remain grateful ! 🙏 Unlike these climber's.
If I may add....minimize one's interaction with the Globalist's corrupt and manipulated monetary system that enslaves us all...
She wasn't alone, she had a Sherpa carrying everything needed.
how could anyone have helped Sharp?
They couldn't, by the time they found him he already was up there for a night and most of the previous day.
No one could, at this point. Not in the DZ.
Lydia didn't need to prove to others that she made it to the top. That's probably the right mentality to have before starting an adventure like that.
So bloody SAD 💯🏴🇬🇧
There has been strong circumstantial evidence for a climbing team being completely blown off the mountain and never found.
These people are highly motivated and obviously willing to take risks with their own lives. If these people are that motivated, then dieing on the mountain, something that they were willing to do.
Exhilaration is addictive, and is often fatal.
These climbers make their own decisions to climb.
No one else is responsible for others on these mountains.
No one else is obligated to risk their life to save them.
Climbers like her, care about fame, records, attention,
boosting their own egos to feel important.
They have no right to break the law, and think
there should be no consequences. Another
example of their selfishness, narcissism, egos
that make them feel special and different than
others, better than others. I don’t look up to
them or gheir “ achievements. To me, they are
and shallow.
Vail and shallow
Vain and shallow.
They deserved an award for their acts.award called Dar-win.
Thank God for that “Viewer Discretion Is Advised” warning. Without it, I would have been emotionally damaged with no resort other than to find a lawyer and institute legal action!
Boring
Climbing Mt Everest is an expensive suicide mission!
Pitching yourself against nature is always in the lap of the God's.
Even if I could climb Everest I wouldn't want to just on the possibility of dying and or having to try and save somebody and having to make the choice to leave them to save myself. Fuck that.
They did an illegal act and should be punished including that woman, how aren't people punished for doing bad acts is insane.
"if you compromise the process, you're an asshole when you start out and you're an asshole when you get back."
-Yvon Chouinard
180 degrees south
The same people who have to rescue this people, who aren’t supposed to be there, should have the power to arrest people putting others in danger. Make them just like lifeguards in the beach in Hawaii