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I bought these batteries a year ago - never knew how good they were to be honest, as of today I had one AA go bad only @ ~4 recharge cycles - as indicated on my smart charger. Good to know the average mAh capacity, so thank you very much for the review. Much appreciated :)
They're OK cells, but not for longer term storage hence the voltage drops. Def nowhere near the Eneloops for charging and keeping stashed. If people use them a lot ie keep them charged they are not bad, about it really
I was pleasantly surprised by the ebl batteries. My charge test on my opus regularly gets between 2600 and 2900 mah. My eneloops rarely break 1900 mah with a 2000 mah rating. Now lets see how they hold up in a few years. I got eneloops that are 8 years old still banging along.
I've got eneloops that are still doing fine after 17 years and hundreds of cycles. Seriously: I've got 28 eneloops with a 06-09 date code, and 32 with a 22-01 code. Right now it's 23-28 so the old batch is 17-1/2 years and the new batch is 1-1/2 years. The old batch averages 1892mAh after a refresh of 3 discharge/charge cycles, and the new batch averages 1917 after the same 3 cycle refresh. They've lost just 25mAh after getting the snot beat out of them for nearly two decades. Color me impressed.
@@MrBazReviews It does, indeed. Regular 2,000mAh eneloops only lose 3% of their charge a year, and are rated for 2100 cycles. When they brought out 2,550mAh "eneloop pro" the self-discharge jumped to 15% a year, the life dropped to 500 cycles, and the price doubled. I expect a 2,800-3,000mAh cell to drop 10%/month, 30 times worse than a classic eneloop.
@@josephwisniewski3673 I don't use the Pro eneloops some do for flashes/lights etc for the higher capacity, the regular ones are just fine for me and as you say they last longer and store with only a very small discharge.
I use EBL 2300 mAh AA for photography using that same EBL charger. Haven't had any issues the batteries seem to be better quality than some of the other off brands I've tried.
They are decent capacity, if you regularly charge them they work pretty well. They're not great for people who tend to charge and store cells for months
They feel like rocks when i gently clink them together so they do seem like beefy batteries (although slightly lighter than I expected but not by much) so they must be absolutely packed to near-bursting
EBL's are fantastic batteries if you're going to use them frequently. I bought a set of 4 for my xbox one controllers and they last for days without having the need to recharge them. They work even better than the xbox one battery packs at holding a charge. These batteries far exceeded my expectations. So if you use a battery power device frequently, then these batteries are a must have.
They are OK but as said the problem is they can't hold a charge, so if you are frequently charging them it's not a huge problem. But if you charge and store cells they're not good for that. I've had to activate quite a few EBL cells as they have fallen below 1.0V in some cases they have read 0V which isn't good for a cell
I also put a pair in my flash light and the flash light still works fine after 3 months without the batteries ever needed to be charged yet. So i don't know what to tell you. I just bought these batteries around 4 months ago so maybe they improved the quality of them, since this video...
@@RhinoXpress I bought 20 ebl aaa1100 ma they were delivered to me jan31, 2018. They have at least been uncharged for over a year and a half. They came in 5 sealed 4 packs. I just popped the seal. on the last 4 pack that I never opened or used. They tested 1.24v,1.24v,1.24v,1.23v. I'm thinking they may have been improved. In general I think they charge to a little over 1.4v and hold to about 1.3v -1.32v after about a month. That is just a rough estimate though. I hav'nt actually tested them to an exact number of days except for the unopened ones. They drop from around 1.4 v to maybe 1.34v after about a week then hold pretty steady.
I also use them for my Xbox One controllers and can confirm they last a few days without charging them. Gets tiring recharging batteries everyday, so I went for this brand and I am very happy overall.
Last year I bought some 1100mAh AAA from EBL again and it looks like it´s not identical with the ones I bought end of 2019. Best capacity I measured was 899mAh. Now EBL have a ProCyco-line which seems to be a small bit better but have big differences from 1000mAh. I use an everactive NC1000+ for testing which shows higher capacity than many other chagers. It looks like it´s a risk to buy those brands, only if you get a good rebate it´s worth to buy. And if you have a charger which likes it, I have the experience some chargers have big problems to terminate EBL cells, the cells getting to hot
I noticed these on Amazon, They sell something we all like - USB AA/AAA chargers! The one with no hole in the bottom and a clear cover is no good, it holds on tightly to the AA batteries and getting them out is very difficult and rips them! The newer model it is easier and there is a hole in the bottom to push out the batteries. It is sloooow 10 hours or so but now I have their high speed model on the way with a micro USB and USB C port. It says it charges 4 AAs in 2 to 3 hours.
Not used the other chargers but this one isn't fast it's also limited to charging it pairs and doesn't fully charge the cells, hence my comments on that, is it awful no but you can do a lot better. The cells are not bad, though they don't have a charge well for longer term storage, so depends how you use them they might make a reasonable budget choice - I would still suggest there are better options out there.
I have the 1100 and it looks good so far. I also tried other budget cells with same/similar capacity and none of it reaches the capacity of the EBL. Tested with discharge test of my Vapcell S4+ and Opus BT-C3100
@@MrBazReviews But if I made a capacity test with my analyzing chargers there´s not much time between charge und discharge. So I guess the capacity rating of some manufacturers are simply wrong.
@@reifenabhobeler4331 Some testers are off on their readings, some are way off. That can be the problem. These are high capacity I tested on other devices too, they just don't hold a charge that long
@@MrBazReviews I believe you :) , but still think some cells have a much overrated capacity. At Ebay I get AA with 3800mAh and AAA with 1600mAh which is clearly overrated. With good brands like Duracell, Varta, GP, Camelion my test results not far away from rated capacity.
I hate to say it, but I bought 60 of these batteries on April 2023 off amazon. Forty AA and twenty AAAs. I use a Nitecore SC4 charger. Of the original 60 I have maybe 20 left and it's pretty clear those aren't much longer for this world. They may be less expensive, but they do not hold up. I have eneloops and amazon batteries that date back to 2018 that are still kicking and have suffered much lower failure rates. I don't know how these batteries get such high ratings. I can only guess that they come from users that don't actually use or recharge them very often.
You're right I have ditched most of the cells, they test well enough but don't hold up well longer term. And I have eneloop cells 10 years old still going strong. Energizer seem hit and miss too, Odec are somewhat better than these, and Duracell seem reasonable in my experience (have some sets going well good 5 years+) People might use them for a few months and be happy enough thus leave a good review, initially they are quite decent maybe for kids toys charging often they're passable. But store badly, I had some drop well under 1V and some just crapped out and didn't hold a charge well at all. The fact eneloop store so well is key to why they seem to last, that's my theory anyway. As for these I'd give them a pass myself, thanks for sharing your thoughts
Usually a good sign light cells tend to have poor capacities! They are quite good I prefer the Odec cells for their better storage. Decent enough though for the price...get a better charger if possible
Thanks! I got the Nitecore i4 charger and it seems pretty good. Also have the Opus BT-3100 on order. For the record: the EBL 2800 mAH battery weighs in at 28.4 grams each. For comparison, the Eneloop 1900 mAH weighs 26.3 grams. The Harbor Freight Thumderbolt Magnum 2200 mAH weighs 27.6 grams -- I just weight them!
wait - does the charger work each pair of cells in series??? if the cutoff is 2.8V, then that's a pair of 1.4s in series. for discharging putting stuff in series is risky (cell reversal) but are there any downfalls to charging in series even if the cutoff voltage could be tweaked up a hair?
Hi Greg the problem is the voltage charging cut off it too low optimal is 1.45-1.5 volts per cell. Charging in pairs isn't ideal you can have a 20% cell and 60% charged cell and it won't cut off the voltage until the combined voltage is reached. The charge rate is so low it isn't unsafe it's just not a great charger. I think there are other EBL chargers around not tried them.
Great review, THANKS. Ive been searching for days as to which brands and have learned quite a lot from this vid and all the comments. QUESTION..... has the codec batteries been rebranded? I googled "Codec AA rechargeable and found nothing on the first 2 pages??? Keep up the good work budd. 👍👍👍
Odec is the other budget brand they still sell batteries. They are quite good for the price, I've used them for a good while now, most budget cells are not worth buying but they are pretty good. Obviously there are better makers Eneloop etc. still I find them better than the EBL cells for longer term use. EBL are passable but don't hold a charge well
Thanks Mr B. My mistake sorry.. i misread the make and put a huge C infront of Odec. What a numpty eh. Just stumbled across your channel by mistake and subscribed cos theres a wealth of info on here. Just going thru your vids quietly right now. Cheers again buddy. 👍👍👍
Im a few months late, but I'm looking into these as a cheaper option for some rechargeable batteries. I would be using them pretty constantly, and would be charging them a lot. Is it a good choice?
Hello nice review! I am planning to buy this for my radio Tecsun PL310ET and it requires 3X AA batteries. Would you recommend EBL for that kind of radio?? The battery can be charged directly to that radio by the way. Thanks.
They work they are high capacity, but as mentioned need regular charging they don't store so well. There are better batteries out there IMO but they are OK if you charge them often
Hey I just bought a 8 pack if aaa from amazon. How would i know if they are good? Do you think your test is still effective 5 years later? Do you think now they are much much better? I hope i didnt buy a bad brand. I hope they last as long as single use ones
Well they might be sending some things in for more testing, I'm not sure at this stage but they did email. If so I'll take a look They're not awful, they're just not low self discharge so you have to use them v storing them. There are better cells out there, I get it for the value side of things so I'll see if there is any improvement if they send anything in or not ;-D
@@MrBazReviews thanks! I assume if I have them in lights they would probually be ok because it might not discharge. I guess these are more constant use batteries! I do hear that they help a lot though
@@SpaceStrike The capacity is OK, they are fine for what they are. But if you are charging and storing cells for months, nope there are way better choices out there.
@@MrBazReviews Good point. I guess if you are on a budget, the ebls are ok if you want a cheap option that is constantly in use, but maybe then you get some primary single use batteries. Another time, you could make a video comparing EBL, Amazon Basics, Panasonic Envolope, Duracell, and Energizer if you want. It will be pricey, but you can return the batteries that lose. Only a suggestion though. ALl the best and keeep up the great work
200mA per hour so you can work it out via the actual capacity (which is a bit less than 2800) The charger is only useful for folks hammering through cells and just loading it up. I think it's wise to look at something a bit better
Helo, thanks for the EBL reviews - the capacities look really good vs. advertised specs. Even better when you consider price. What mfgr/model capacity tester did you use ? A Tenergy TN456 ?? Thanks.
Hi I have not reviewed the charger yet it's this model: bit.ly/2pRdmmU It's re-badged in various names such as Uniross etc. Bear in mind the capacity test has a margin of error, even so they are decent in terms of the capacity. What they are not good at is storage so if you charge and store cells for weeks/months they're not a great choice. Pretty decent for the price, forget the charger though it's nothing special and doesn't fill the cells completely.
Honestly no the Eneloop Pro is a quality battery with low self discharge, the EBL ones are not bad cells but not low self discharge. They are quite good with a fairly high capacity, but they are not top tier cells due to that. I'd take the Odec ones v the EBL because they do hold their charger better and have a decent capacity. The Eneloop Pros are really for a specific users possibly flashguns, they have a lot less re-charge cycles v the normal Eneloops
Hi I didn't test the Duracell yet I'm hoping to work through more over time. These are OK if you charge or use devices quite frequently, if you tend to charge and store I'd go for the Eneloops or other low self discharge types
Do you have any recommendations my ebl charger came without rechargeable batteries but from what i heard the comments say they are not the best but i don't know what to buy, im looking for AA batteries.
Main brands are usually quite good, the Eneloop's are the more expensive but they do last a long time Odec are also pretty good for budget cells, some like the Amazon basics ones
Hi, I charged my batteries (EBL) AA 2800 and left them for an hour and put them back in my nitecore charger and noticed the LCD display showed they were only 2 bar charged out of 5 bars on the nitecore charger, is this normal ? Only had batteries a month any advise would be welcome thank you.
@@kingneptune8937 Buy decent batteries the EBL ones are not great I gave most of mine away they discharge though 1 hour indicates a fault no doubt on the batteries
Depends on budget the Eneloop's are not cheap but they just keep going on and on, I've had sets for 8/9 years that are still usable. Odec are alright for budget ones I've used them in flashes. These are OK if you are charging often, they are not low self discharge
@@MrBazReviews do u have any suggestiom for rechargeable aaaa.. because i use it on my stylus and i use EBL on it but.. dang EBL is not that great.. (the price is around 5 dollar in my country 🙄).. thanks for replying btw.. and can i use the charger from EBL to charge other battery with different brand?
I got these same batteries (8 AAA's) and they SEEM to be improved compared to when this video was made. I also got a 4-slot EBL smart charge which charges individual cells up to full properly but it does take a whole day or more to charge a completely flat (1v or less) battery/cell as well as an 8-slot no-name brand Hie smart charger (which does work and charges them all up to full) and charges them very quickly these batteries last an enormously really long time in all my devices compared to my previous rayovac ones i had so they are still pretty good The say minimum capacity is 1000mAh and the rated capacity is 1100mAh so they seem to all be in spec I'm fine even if they're not LSD type that doesnt bother me I prefer high capacity instead You should charge and discharge the batteries at least 5 or 10 full cycles to get an accurate capacity rating on them.
The cells were tested 6 months after purchase and had a few dozen cycles on them prior to testing. I've not tried the other chargers from EBL this one wasn't the best so I'd pass on it myself, other ones might be better. Many are re-badged generic ones..some are decent though. I think they are OK, but there are alternatives which might suit some users better
Thats odd. Mine seem to be approximately 1,090mAh to 1,150mAh after only 3 or 5 cycles! I have used them frequently and often though and not really letting them sit for any length of time. I'm using these chargers www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0183AE9A0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KBQ7U10/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Both of these seem to work alright (the EBL one might be flaky if you get a defective one. the first one I got was faulty so i sent it out to be replaced and the replacement works fine) the Hie one works flawlessly (its a clone of some other identical looking ones so just find one that looks identical and it will perform the same most likely) I bought out the last one for 9$ Plus it comes with a nice 12v power supply (it says only 1A rating but it can actually output up to 2 amps before it cuts out and protects itself. so I got a good bonus too!) Maybe my batteries were manufactured slightly differently or newer. I think mine might be a slightly newer model or something?? I did charge them up fully before the first use with my 8-way charger so all of them reached full charge approximately the same time. For 9$ for the batteries I cant complain. they all out perform my previous batteries that I had. plus I get more of them. for cheaper!
There is a margin of error with a capacity test though I run them a few times to ensure I get reasonably accurate figures. Cells can also vary a bit I've not used those chargers the 4 slot EBL is using a Delta V algorithm the 8 slot here is a voltage cut off using two channels at the same time is the weakness as one cell can be partly charged the other could be quite low. It is possible they update models though I can only review what I have unless a maker wants to supply new versions I'm not likely to re-review new samples. I've done a few charger reviews for testing the Opus is a pretty good option. Thanks for the comment
I noticed when my charger cuts off the discharge test (when I do a discharge-only) the batteries are resting at approximately 1v then slowly raise up to 1.1v after a few minutes. and i can still get full power in my portable electric drink mixer bottle for at least a minute or so after it drains them. At 1v I can still get a sizeable amount of energy out of the batteries. So they may be rated at 1,100mAh if you drain them completely flat. your charger might cut out the discharge test only as soon as the voltage hits 1v or 0.9v but not when the resting voltage is at 1v or 0.9v so you should try testing them after and see if they've got energy left in them. At 1.1v i can still get over 5 amps out of the batteries if you short them into a multimeter for a second to test them. Even at 1.034v on one cell i still got over 4 amps out of it. and even after that i was still able to run my super bright flashlight for a few minutes before the brightness started dropping
Interesting - I get very different results to you - I have the D-size 10,000mAh, and *had* (then returned) some 9V 280mAh cells. For the D, I measure about 7200mAh (lousy!), but it definitely is low self-discharge - it lost 16% after 6 months. As a control, I also stored an Eneloop AA right next to it, and it lost 14%. Both batteries measured 1.28V before the discharge. The 9V cells measured only about 175mAh, which is also a lot less than it's rated 280mAH. I didn't do a self-discharge test with these - I got sick of EBL's inflated ratings and exchanged them for some 200mAh Tenergy cells, which actually measure slightly *over* spec. I'll just keep the D-cells.
I've not used the larger cells from EBL, for newer tests I have a new unit which is a bit more accurate (this one can be a little higher in readings), though the cells have decent capacity. The charger is meh wouldn't bother with it, batteries just don't hold a charge that well, least the ones I have There are a lot of iffy reviews on Amazon so best to ignore them, might do that video on fake reviews soon ;-)
the ebl batteries I bought from amazon do not have much duration, and are demensionally larger than other brands. They fit very tight in the holders, and after a year the covering peels off. Buy something else.
They're not great, they test OK for capacity, but discharge quite quickly. So I don't really recommend them unless you are often charging the cells they don't store well. I've not seen the wraps coming off though
They are cheap but the fact they over state the capacity so much and lie about “low self discharge” made me don’t want to support the company. Surprisingly IKEA Ladda are the best rechargeable batteries I found so far. As good as Eneloop at half the price.
Yes I heard that IKEA ones are good not used them. These are merely average at best. The problem is they don't hold a charge for long, so not a good choice if you charge and store cells. They are passable if you charge regularly.
Not used these for some time, but if you have discharged cells they should be more then that. Maybe they changed them. I think it might be best to stick to other brands.
@@MrBazReviews wish i had spotted the project farm review i just watched before buying them, comparing 10 brands for capacity, self discharge etc, These were by far the worst,. Oh well, at least they were cheap. I have 8 more under test now (using a vapcell s4 plus as well), but expect all to be just as bad.(edit - lowest 2 were the 773, and a 803, highest 2 were 846 and 843, others spread between).
They're different Eneloops are designed for big no.of cycles, and longer term storage. These are higher capacity but don't store for that long. Depends what you use them for
I wish battery manufacturers would stop making their batteries ever so slightly thicker because in my case, the battery fits very tightly in the devices I use them in, and they're difficult to install and remove. Stick to the specs, guys.
It's fairly common, Eneloop tend to stick to the right size or very close. Lot of others mess around with it, hence tight fitting cells in some devices
Yes fake reviews still go on even more so than before they got banned. I get emails every day you buy the product and they paypal refund you, so it's misleading to buyers. Hence you can ignore completely the Amazon reviews even verified purchases. It's a huge problem and it's got worse since they banned "disclosed free samples", it just went underground I can spot a fake review a mile away it's quite easy, usually photos, often too long and almost always it doesn't mention any drawbacks or negative points. UA-cam is just as bad, many don't disclose free sent samples, I do BTW this was not sent in by EBL ;-D
Thanks for the reply! i ended up getting a mix of amazon basics Hp rechargeables and some eneloops ( on sale) to see if theres much of a quality difference
@@shantzmtl Yes it requires a fair bit of pressure, not a fan of the charger as it charges in pairs, and doesn't fully charge cells - it's passable at best
tybatt are the best they are 2800 mah ebl i own are not 2800mah and not rohs which tybatts are min 2853mah in battery bought 24 batterys ebl are not worth it they are not good batterys on amazon 8 pack 19.99 tybatt 2800mah
I've had nothing but issues with mine. I use their chargers and even though they say fully charged the batteries that still work only last about a week at most in an Amazon Fire TV remote. Out of the 60 batteries I've purchased I've had 14 go totally dead before the third or fourth charge. We use our batteries in remotes and clocks, not exactly high current drain devices. EBL batteries are garbage as is their tech support. I've complained to them several times and they don't care. And people wonder why we try to buy American. Ya, go figure. In my opinion I would stay away from the EBL brand of battery. Total junk.
As I say in the video, despite the high capacity ratings - the cells do not hold a charge well at all. Even after a few weeks. Therefore I'm not recommending them, and have not for some time
@@MrBazReviews In the past I've always used Sanyo brand but they are very hard to find any more. I have some that are 12 years old and still as strong as the day I purchased them. Just like the old saying goes, they don't make them like they used too. Very very true.
@@Hammer.Paladin Panasonic took them over, they improved the cells a bit, so you should be happy enough with them. It is true they are not cheap batteries, but they hold a charge for a long time, and take many charge cycles
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I bought these batteries a year ago - never knew how good they were to be honest, as of today I had one AA go bad only @ ~4 recharge cycles - as indicated on my smart charger. Good to know the average mAh capacity, so thank you very much for the review. Much appreciated :)
They're OK cells, but not for longer term storage hence the voltage drops. Def nowhere near the Eneloops for charging and keeping stashed. If people use them a lot ie keep them charged they are not bad, about it really
I was pleasantly surprised by the ebl batteries. My charge test on my opus regularly gets between 2600 and 2900 mah. My eneloops rarely break 1900 mah with a 2000 mah rating. Now lets see how they hold up in a few years. I got eneloops that are 8 years old still banging along.
Capacity comes at the expense of storage, I've sometimes found these drop their voltage in devices over weeks/months.
I've got eneloops that are still doing fine after 17 years and hundreds of cycles. Seriously: I've got 28 eneloops with a 06-09 date code, and 32 with a 22-01 code. Right now it's 23-28 so the old batch is 17-1/2 years and the new batch is 1-1/2 years. The old batch averages 1892mAh after a refresh of 3 discharge/charge cycles, and the new batch averages 1917 after the same 3 cycle refresh.
They've lost just 25mAh after getting the snot beat out of them for nearly two decades. Color me impressed.
@@MrBazReviews It does, indeed. Regular 2,000mAh eneloops only lose 3% of their charge a year, and are rated for 2100 cycles. When they brought out 2,550mAh "eneloop pro" the self-discharge jumped to 15% a year, the life dropped to 500 cycles, and the price doubled. I expect a 2,800-3,000mAh cell to drop 10%/month, 30 times worse than a classic eneloop.
@@josephwisniewski3673 I don't use the Pro eneloops some do for flashes/lights etc for the higher capacity, the regular ones are just fine for me and as you say they last longer and store with only a very small discharge.
I use EBL 2300 mAh AA for photography using that same EBL charger. Haven't had any issues the batteries seem to be better quality than some of the other off brands I've tried.
They are decent capacity, if you regularly charge them they work pretty well. They're not great for people who tend to charge and store cells for months
They feel like rocks when i gently clink them together so they do seem like beefy batteries (although slightly lighter than I expected but not by much)
so they must be absolutely packed to near-bursting
EBL's are fantastic batteries if you're going to use them frequently. I bought a set of 4 for my xbox one controllers and they last for days without having the need to recharge them. They work even better than the xbox one battery packs at holding a charge. These batteries far exceeded my expectations. So if you use a battery power device frequently, then these batteries are a must have.
They are OK but as said the problem is they can't hold a charge, so if you are frequently charging them it's not a huge problem. But if you charge and store cells they're not good for that. I've had to activate quite a few EBL cells as they have fallen below 1.0V in some cases they have read 0V which isn't good for a cell
I also put a pair in my flash light and the flash light still works fine after 3 months without the batteries ever needed to be charged yet. So i don't know what to tell you. I just bought these batteries around 4 months ago so maybe they improved the quality of them, since this video...
@@RhinoXpress I bought 20 ebl aaa1100 ma they were delivered to me jan31, 2018. They have at least been uncharged for over a year and a half. They came in 5 sealed 4 packs. I just popped the seal. on the last 4 pack that I never opened or used. They tested 1.24v,1.24v,1.24v,1.23v. I'm thinking they may have been improved. In general I think they charge to a little over 1.4v and hold to about 1.3v -1.32v after about a month. That is just a rough estimate though. I hav'nt actually tested them to an exact number of days except for the unopened ones. They drop from around 1.4 v to maybe 1.34v after about a week then hold pretty steady.
I think I will believe the reviewer, he has extensive experience, Steelcity1981, does not.
I also use them for my Xbox One controllers and can confirm they last a few days without charging them. Gets tiring recharging batteries everyday, so I went for this brand and I am very happy overall.
Last year I bought some 1100mAh AAA from EBL again and it looks like it´s not identical with the ones I bought end of 2019. Best capacity I measured was 899mAh. Now EBL have a ProCyco-line which seems to be a small bit better but have big differences from 1000mAh. I use an everactive NC1000+ for testing which shows higher capacity than many other chagers.
It looks like it´s a risk to buy those brands, only if you get a good rebate it´s worth to buy. And if you have a charger which likes it, I have the experience some chargers have big problems to terminate EBL cells, the cells getting to hot
I've not tried any recently, so it's possible they might be different performance. Not ideal for longer storage as they don't hold a charge that well.
Thanks for the honest review
No problem
For the price, they're definitely worth it. Are there better ones, sure, but for the quality and quantity. The ebl is a fairly good to work with
They're not bad, but the longevity isn't as good as the top maker
I noticed these on Amazon, They sell something we all like - USB AA/AAA chargers! The one with no hole in the bottom and a clear cover is no good, it holds on tightly to the AA batteries and getting them out is very difficult and rips them! The newer model it is easier and there is a hole in the bottom to push out the batteries. It is sloooow 10 hours or so but now I have their high speed model on the way with a micro USB and USB C port. It says it charges 4 AAs in 2 to 3 hours.
Not used the other chargers but this one isn't fast it's also limited to charging it pairs and doesn't fully charge the cells, hence my comments on that, is it awful no but you can do a lot better. The cells are not bad, though they don't have a charge well for longer term storage, so depends how you use them they might make a reasonable budget choice - I would still suggest there are better options out there.
I have the 1100 and it looks good so far. I also tried other budget cells with same/similar capacity and none of it reaches the capacity of the EBL. Tested with discharge test of my Vapcell S4+ and Opus BT-C3100
Nothing wrong with the capacity, they just don't hold a charge that well. that's the price to pay for a higher capacity
@@MrBazReviews But if I made a capacity test with my analyzing chargers there´s not much time between charge und discharge. So I guess the capacity rating of some manufacturers are simply wrong.
@@reifenabhobeler4331 Some testers are off on their readings, some are way off. That can be the problem. These are high capacity I tested on other devices too, they just don't hold a charge that long
@@MrBazReviews I believe you :) , but still think some cells have a much overrated capacity. At Ebay I get AA with 3800mAh and AAA with 1600mAh which is clearly overrated. With good brands like Duracell, Varta, GP, Camelion my test results not far away from rated capacity.
@@reifenabhobeler4331 Yes the BTY ones are crazy over stated hence stick to better known brands
I hate to say it, but I bought 60 of these batteries on April 2023 off amazon. Forty AA and twenty AAAs. I use a Nitecore SC4 charger. Of the original 60 I have maybe 20 left and it's pretty clear those aren't much longer for this world. They may be less expensive, but they do not hold up. I have eneloops and amazon batteries that date back to 2018 that are still kicking and have suffered much lower failure rates. I don't know how these batteries get such high ratings. I can only guess that they come from users that don't actually use or recharge them very often.
You're right I have ditched most of the cells, they test well enough but don't hold up well longer term.
And I have eneloop cells 10 years old still going strong. Energizer seem hit and miss too, Odec are somewhat better than these, and Duracell seem reasonable in my experience (have some sets going well good 5 years+)
People might use them for a few months and be happy enough thus leave a good review, initially they are quite decent maybe for kids toys charging often they're passable. But store badly, I had some drop well under 1V and some just crapped out and didn't hold a charge well at all. The fact eneloop store so well is key to why they seem to last, that's my theory anyway.
As for these I'd give them a pass myself, thanks for sharing your thoughts
Heavy! These batteries feel hefty in the hand. I already like them even before I start using them.
Usually a good sign light cells tend to have poor capacities! They are quite good I prefer the Odec cells for their better storage. Decent enough though for the price...get a better charger if possible
Thanks! I got the Nitecore i4 charger and it seems pretty good. Also have the Opus BT-3100 on order. For the record: the EBL 2800 mAH battery weighs in at 28.4 grams each. For comparison, the Eneloop 1900 mAH weighs 26.3 grams. The Harbor Freight Thumderbolt Magnum 2200 mAH weighs 27.6 grams -- I just weight them!
hello which is heavier eneloop pro or ebl 2800mah?
100-150mah below is good enough for the price. SOLD!!!
They are OK
Good succinct review, much appreciated.
No problem!
wait - does the charger work each pair of cells in series??? if the cutoff is 2.8V, then that's a pair of 1.4s in series. for discharging putting stuff in series is risky (cell reversal) but are there any downfalls to charging in series even if the cutoff voltage could be tweaked up a hair?
Hi Greg the problem is the voltage charging cut off it too low optimal is 1.45-1.5 volts per cell. Charging in pairs isn't ideal you can have a 20% cell and 60% charged cell and it won't cut off the voltage until the combined voltage is reached. The charge rate is so low it isn't unsafe it's just not a great charger. I think there are other EBL chargers around not tried them.
Thanks a lot for this gerat review, I still do not found a good rechargables batteries. There are so many on the web who say "This is the best".
They are not the best not even close
Great review, THANKS. Ive been searching for days as to which brands and have learned quite a lot from this vid and all the comments.
QUESTION..... has the codec batteries been rebranded? I googled "Codec AA rechargeable and found nothing on the first 2 pages???
Keep up the good work budd. 👍👍👍
Odec is the other budget brand they still sell batteries. They are quite good for the price, I've used them for a good while now, most budget cells are not worth buying but they are pretty good. Obviously there are better makers Eneloop etc. still I find them better than the EBL cells for longer term use. EBL are passable but don't hold a charge well
Thanks Mr B.
My mistake sorry.. i misread the make and put a huge C infront of Odec. What a numpty eh.
Just stumbled across your channel by mistake and subscribed cos theres a wealth of info on here. Just going thru your vids quietly right now.
Cheers again buddy. 👍👍👍
What would be your recommendation for rechargeable AAs and AAAs. Looking for good value (i.e. I'm a tightarse).
Try the Amazon branded cells, people seem to find them good
Thank you for the review
Thanks
Im a few months late, but I'm looking into these as a cheaper option for some rechargeable batteries. I would be using them pretty constantly, and would be charging them a lot. Is it a good choice?
They're alright if you charge them regularly, there are better options depends on what you want to pay
Hello nice review! I am planning to buy this for my radio Tecsun PL310ET and it requires 3X AA batteries. Would you recommend EBL for that kind of radio?? The battery can be charged directly to that radio by the way. Thanks.
They work they are high capacity, but as mentioned need regular charging they don't store so well. There are better batteries out there IMO but they are OK if you charge them often
@@MrBazReviews Okay I see, I have the eneloop also which I believe can be charged often. Thanks.
Am I able to keep the batteries on the charger with the charger plugged in? Or would that be a bad idea?
Never a good idea to do that
I wonder if it would damage AAAs if I used AA caddies to charge the AAAs on the AA bus
won't be a problem but there are better chargers out there
Hey I just bought a 8 pack if aaa from amazon. How would i know if they are good? Do you think your test is still effective 5 years later? Do you think now they are much much better? I hope i didnt buy a bad brand. I hope they last as long as single use ones
Well they might be sending some things in for more testing, I'm not sure at this stage but they did email. If so I'll take a look
They're not awful, they're just not low self discharge so you have to use them v storing them. There are better cells out there, I get it for the value side of things so I'll see if there is any improvement if they send anything in or not ;-D
@@MrBazReviews thanks! I assume if I have them in lights they would probually be ok because it might not discharge. I guess these are more constant use batteries! I do hear that they help a lot though
@@SpaceStrike The capacity is OK, they are fine for what they are. But if you are charging and storing cells for months, nope there are way better choices out there.
@@MrBazReviews Good point. I guess if you are on a budget, the ebls are ok if you want a cheap option that is constantly in use, but maybe then you get some primary single use batteries. Another time, you could make a video comparing EBL, Amazon Basics, Panasonic Envolope, Duracell, and Energizer if you want. It will be pricey, but you can return the batteries that lose. Only a suggestion though. ALl the best and keeep up the great work
What about the BONAI 1100mAh AAA 1.2V Ni-MH?
Not tested that one I've done powerex AA's and AAA though
is this okey for a wireless microphone?
It will work, as will any cell. If you are storing and not charging often, I would look at other makes
So with a completely dead EBL AA @2800 mAh, we're talking 14 hours for a full charge. I don't know the charging rates of the usual smart charger.
200mA per hour so you can work it out via the actual capacity (which is a bit less than 2800)
The charger is only useful for folks hammering through cells and just loading it up. I think it's wise to look at something a bit better
@@MrBazReviews Oh, well. I already ordered it and I'll see how it goes.
Helo, thanks for the EBL reviews - the capacities look really good vs. advertised specs. Even better when you consider price. What mfgr/model capacity tester did you use ? A Tenergy TN456 ?? Thanks.
Hi I have not reviewed the charger yet it's this model:
bit.ly/2pRdmmU
It's re-badged in various names such as Uniross etc. Bear in mind the capacity test has a margin of error, even so they are decent in terms of the capacity. What they are not good at is storage so if you charge and store cells for weeks/months they're not a great choice. Pretty decent for the price, forget the charger though it's nothing special and doesn't fill the cells completely.
thanks is it better than Panasonic 2500mAh Eneloop Pro vsDuracell Recharge 2500
and ebl aa 2800 made in japan
Honestly no the Eneloop Pro is a quality battery with low self discharge, the EBL ones are not bad cells but not low self discharge. They are quite good with a fairly high capacity, but they are not top tier cells due to that. I'd take the Odec ones v the EBL because they do hold their charger better and have a decent capacity. The Eneloop Pros are really for a specific users possibly flashguns, they have a lot less re-charge cycles v the normal Eneloops
thanks allot Panasonic 2500mAh made in japapn so ebl is it japan or china and also did you test Duracell Recharge Ultra AA HR6 2500mAh
Hi I didn't test the Duracell yet I'm hoping to work through more over time. These are OK if you charge or use devices quite frequently, if you tend to charge and store I'd go for the Eneloops or other low self discharge types
Mr Baz Reviews
thanks allot panasonic seem to be better 2500 and ebl 2800 put in real not 2800 mah 100 %
Would I be able to charge these in an Energizer value charger
You can but more are timer chargers if you do a lot of charging I'd suggest a proper charger like a VC4 or something like that
Do you have any recommendations my ebl charger came without rechargeable batteries but from what i heard the comments say they are not the best but i don't know what to buy, im looking for AA batteries.
Main brands are usually quite good, the Eneloop's are the more expensive but they do last a long time
Odec are also pretty good for budget cells, some like the Amazon basics ones
@@MrBazReviews can i charge pro batteries on ebl?
@@Iglom9 If it fits it charges
@@MrBazReviews ok thank you
Hi, I charged my batteries (EBL) AA 2800 and left them for an hour and put them back in my nitecore charger and noticed the LCD display showed they were only 2 bar charged out of 5 bars on the nitecore charger, is this normal ? Only had batteries a month any advise would be welcome thank you.
What was the first charger you used? The EBL one doesn't fully charge the cells.
@@MrBazReviews I've only used a nitecore charger, every time I charge them to full and then waite 1hr there almost discharge.
@@kingneptune8937 Buy decent batteries the EBL ones are not great I gave most of mine away they discharge though 1 hour indicates a fault no doubt on the batteries
@@MrBazReviews hi baz, thanks for getting back to me, could you recommend a good quality rechargeable batteries.
@@kingneptune8937 Faulty cells get Odec AA's they hold a charge and are decent for budget cells
bruh, do u have any suggestion about the brand of rechargeable battery?
Depends on budget the Eneloop's are not cheap but they just keep going on and on, I've had sets for 8/9 years that are still usable. Odec are alright for budget ones I've used them in flashes. These are OK if you are charging often, they are not low self discharge
@@MrBazReviews do u have any suggestiom for rechargeable aaaa.. because i use it on my stylus and i use EBL on it but.. dang EBL is not that great.. (the price is around 5 dollar in my country 🙄).. thanks for replying btw.. and can i use the charger from EBL to charge other battery with different brand?
I got these same batteries (8 AAA's)
and they SEEM to be improved compared to when this video was made.
I also got a 4-slot EBL smart charge which charges individual cells up to full properly but it does take a whole day or more to charge a completely flat (1v or less) battery/cell
as well as an 8-slot no-name brand Hie smart charger (which does work and charges them all up to full) and charges them very quickly
these batteries last an enormously really long time in all my devices compared to my previous rayovac ones i had
so they are still pretty good
The say minimum capacity is 1000mAh and the rated capacity is 1100mAh so they seem to all be in spec
I'm fine even if they're not LSD type that doesnt bother me I prefer high capacity instead
You should charge and discharge the batteries at least 5 or 10 full cycles to get an accurate capacity rating on them.
The cells were tested 6 months after purchase and had a few dozen cycles on them prior to testing. I've not tried the other chargers from EBL this one wasn't the best so I'd pass on it myself, other ones might be better. Many are re-badged generic ones..some are decent though.
I think they are OK, but there are alternatives which might suit some users better
Thats odd.
Mine seem to be approximately 1,090mAh to 1,150mAh after only 3 or 5 cycles!
I have used them frequently and often though and not really letting them sit for any length of time.
I'm using these chargers
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0183AE9A0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KBQ7U10/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Both of these seem to work alright (the EBL one might be flaky if you get a defective one. the first one I got was faulty so i sent it out to be replaced and the replacement works fine)
the Hie one works flawlessly (its a clone of some other identical looking ones so just find one that looks identical and it will perform the same most likely)
I bought out the last one for 9$
Plus it comes with a nice 12v power supply (it says only 1A rating but it can actually output up to 2 amps before it cuts out and protects itself. so I got a good bonus too!)
Maybe my batteries were manufactured slightly differently or newer. I think mine might be a slightly newer model or something??
I did charge them up fully before the first use with my 8-way charger so all of them reached full charge approximately the same time.
For 9$ for the batteries I cant complain. they all out perform my previous batteries that I had. plus I get more of them. for cheaper!
There is a margin of error with a capacity test though I run them a few times to ensure I get reasonably accurate figures. Cells can also vary a bit
I've not used those chargers the 4 slot EBL is using a Delta V algorithm the 8 slot here is a voltage cut off using two channels at the same time is the weakness as one cell can be partly charged the other could be quite low. It is possible they update models though I can only review what I have unless a maker wants to supply new versions I'm not likely to re-review new samples.
I've done a few charger reviews for testing the Opus is a pretty good option. Thanks for the comment
I noticed when my charger cuts off the discharge test (when I do a discharge-only) the batteries are resting at approximately 1v then slowly raise up to 1.1v after a few minutes. and i can still get full power in my portable electric drink mixer bottle for at least a minute or so after it drains them.
At 1v I can still get a sizeable amount of energy out of the batteries. So they may be rated at 1,100mAh if you drain them completely flat.
your charger might cut out the discharge test only as soon as the voltage hits 1v or 0.9v but not when the resting voltage is at 1v or 0.9v so you should try testing them after and see if they've got energy left in them.
At 1.1v i can still get over 5 amps out of the batteries if you short them into a multimeter for a second to test them.
Even at 1.034v on one cell i still got over 4 amps out of it. and even after that i was still able to run my super bright flashlight for a few minutes before the brightness started dropping
Is this okay for Xbox Controllers??
Because its currently on sale now 4 2800mah with charger for 450php($9) here in our country
Should I get it???
They're OK if you charge them often, there are better ones if you charge and store
Does it come with the cable?
Charger comes with a figure of 8 mains cable
Thanks!
No problem!
Can I use any charger to charge these batteries
Of course
Interesting - I get very different results to you - I have the D-size 10,000mAh, and *had* (then returned) some 9V 280mAh cells.
For the D, I measure about 7200mAh (lousy!), but it definitely is low self-discharge - it lost 16% after 6 months. As a control, I also stored an Eneloop AA right next to it, and it lost 14%. Both batteries measured 1.28V before the discharge.
The 9V cells measured only about 175mAh, which is also a lot less than it's rated 280mAH. I didn't do a self-discharge test with these - I got sick of EBL's inflated ratings and exchanged them for some 200mAh Tenergy cells, which actually measure slightly *over* spec. I'll just keep the D-cells.
I've not used the larger cells from EBL, for newer tests I have a new unit which is a bit more accurate (this one can be a little higher in readings), though the cells have decent capacity. The charger is meh wouldn't bother with it, batteries just don't hold a charge that well, least the ones I have
There are a lot of iffy reviews on Amazon so best to ignore them, might do that video on fake reviews soon ;-)
Sir AA 2800MAH cell RECHARGE TIME MINIMUM &MAXIMUM ?
Divide capacity by charging current, I charge at 0.5 or 1.0A for AA cells
and if i have ebl charger.. will it be safe to use it on another batterry?*really appreciate it if u can reply me 😁 and auto subs
Yes it will work with other batteries no problem
the ebl batteries I bought from amazon do not have much duration, and are demensionally larger than other brands. They fit very tight in the holders, and after a year the covering peels off. Buy something else.
They're not great, they test OK for capacity, but discharge quite quickly. So I don't really recommend them unless you are often charging the cells they don't store well. I've not seen the wraps coming off though
which current tester is that in the video?
It's a 7dayshop one, but a re-brand used by many
Ok, thanks a lot.
They are cheap but the fact they over state the capacity so much and lie about “low self discharge” made me don’t want to support the company. Surprisingly IKEA Ladda are the best rechargeable batteries I found so far. As good as Eneloop at half the price.
Yes I heard that IKEA ones are good not used them. These are merely average at best. The problem is they don't hold a charge for long, so not a good choice if you charge and store cells. They are passable if you charge regularly.
Just bought 3 x 8 packs of AAA, and disappointed first cell tried has tested at only 773 mah. (Xstar dragon vp4 plus)
Not used these for some time, but if you have discharged cells they should be more then that. Maybe they changed them. I think it might be best to stick to other brands.
@@MrBazReviews wish i had spotted the project farm review i just watched before buying them, comparing 10 brands for capacity, self discharge etc, These were by far the worst,. Oh well, at least they were cheap. I have 8 more under test now (using a vapcell s4 plus as well), but expect all to be just as bad.(edit - lowest 2 were the 773, and a 803, highest 2 were 846 and 843, others spread between).
@@Retiredkiwi I heard Amazon basics were pretty good, but I've not tried them. Eneloop are a solid brand, they last.
EBL batteries are great IMO, as good as eneloop
They're different Eneloops are designed for big no.of cycles, and longer term storage. These are higher capacity but don't store for that long. Depends what you use them for
I wish battery manufacturers would stop making their batteries ever so slightly thicker because in my case, the battery fits very tightly in the devices I use them in, and they're difficult to install and remove. Stick to the specs, guys.
It's fairly common, Eneloop tend to stick to the right size or very close. Lot of others mess around with it, hence tight fitting cells in some devices
@@MrBazReviews yeah, it's fairly common. I dunno why they even do it. To push mAh as far as they can, I guess.
EBL pay for fake reviews. How do I know? Because I was offered these batteries for free in exchange for a 5 star review on Amazon
Yes fake reviews still go on even more so than before they got banned. I get emails every day you buy the product and they paypal refund you, so it's misleading to buyers. Hence you can ignore completely the Amazon reviews even verified purchases. It's a huge problem and it's got worse since they banned "disclosed free samples", it just went underground
I can spot a fake review a mile away it's quite easy, usually photos, often too long and almost always it doesn't mention any drawbacks or negative points.
UA-cam is just as bad, many don't disclose free sent samples, I do
BTW this was not sent in by EBL ;-D
Are these batteries Japanese or Chinese in origin?
China likely they don't say but I'd guarantee that's where they are from. They are OK just not great at holding their charge.
Thanks for the reply! i ended up getting a mix of amazon basics Hp rechargeables and some eneloops ( on sale) to see if theres much of a quality difference
The AAA batteries seem too small for the charger.
They fit in, two slot sizes - the charger isn't anything special though
Ya you really have to push the battery down. Harder than I thought.
@@shantzmtl Yes it requires a fair bit of pressure, not a fan of the charger as it charges in pairs, and doesn't fully charge cells - it's passable at best
Mr Baz Reviews just worried I'd break it. Kinda flimsy and low-grade plastic.
EBL are good quality
They are OK but no more they're not great at holding a charge when not in use which might be a factor for some users
tybatt are the best they are 2800 mah ebl i own are not 2800mah and not rohs which tybatts are min 2853mah in battery bought 24 batterys ebl are not worth it they are not good batterys on amazon 8 pack 19.99 tybatt 2800mah
I have never used them
Mahalo 😎🤙
I've had nothing but issues with mine. I use their chargers and even though they say fully charged the batteries that still work only last about a week at most in an Amazon Fire TV remote. Out of the 60 batteries I've purchased I've had 14 go totally dead before the third or fourth charge. We use our batteries in remotes and clocks, not exactly high current drain devices. EBL batteries are garbage as is their tech support. I've complained to them several times and they don't care. And people wonder why we try to buy American. Ya, go figure. In my opinion I would stay away from the EBL brand of battery. Total junk.
As I say in the video, despite the high capacity ratings - the cells do not hold a charge well at all. Even after a few weeks. Therefore I'm not recommending them, and have not for some time
@@MrBazReviews In the past I've always used Sanyo brand but they are very hard to find any more. I have some that are 12 years old and still as strong as the day I purchased them. Just like the old saying goes, they don't make them like they used too. Very very true.
@@Hammer.Paladin Panasonic took them over, they improved the cells a bit, so you should be happy enough with them. It is true they are not cheap batteries, but they hold a charge for a long time, and take many charge cycles