Threadlifts vs Fillers
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Threadlifts or fillers, whats right for you? & Why I don't love doing this particular procedure!
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I know this is a frank and honest page, but all the people saying she looks terrible now need to remember this woman is human and probably reading the comments. How would you feel? We can express in slightly kinder way.
people should learn to face realty.
Especially when - like in this case - they created their own problems.
If I do something to look better, I need to be ready to hear other people saying I look like shit.
I can't pretend people do not express their own opinions just because it makes me sad.
Amusegirl1980 this page is for comments and opinions. If we can’t speak out mind what good is it? I’m
Sure she knows precisely what she looks like. If she is happy, doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks. If we think it’s unsightly, maybe others can be aware of the General consensus and steer clear of it. I would never set out to hurt anyone’s feelings but she clearly gave her consent to have her photo used.
this channel is meant to offer FREE information... if people choose to be ungrateful and outright disrespectful... it reflects a lot on them and shows how ugly they are on the inside. Thanks for the uploads!
Austin Quezada nobody is being ugly. We are discussing the procedure not the woman. The procedure is worthy of discussing in honest clinical terms. This is an information channel.
Amusegirl1980 uhhh shes beautiful 💋 idk what people are talking about
Wow - love your honesty. Genuine doctor. Lots of respect to you. Thank you.
I’ve had threads done twice (5 & 10 years ago) and the results were subtle but improved over the months and lasted 2-3 years (I am 63). If you are older with jowls and looser skin on the neck the results are much better, this model I don’t think needed them (no downturns at corner of mouth to pull up) and looked quite young. Mine were done in one session and I had little bruising or swelling - getting silhouette threads done in 2 days. Yes it is expensive but not ready for a face lift ($3,000 and $5,000 in Australia) and I go to a cosmetic full surgery doctor.
It looks so scary! But I'm addicted to these videos. You're so informative
dancedanceCRASH me too! Hours on these videos
I had threads a while ago, at a reputable clinic in London. Everything I read about the procedure said it was "minimally invasive." Minimally invasive my arse. It was incredibly painful, took 10 days to recover fully, 4 weeks to get to a "finished" result, and was very expensive. I was happy with the result, and it has lasted a lot longer than fillers, but unless I had unlimited funds and was signing up for a whole programme of treatments over a period of a year or so to set me up for the next 5 years of my life, of which threads were a part, I'm really not sure I'd have it done again.
They seemed like such a good idea though.... but you’ve convinced me there is a better way!
Wow, I've never even heard of threadlifts! I'm a medical student and we don't really cover cosmetic procedures so this was interesting to learn about!
And I agree with other comments- your wardrobe is fabulous! And I adore the pink hair tips. Nothing better than a rock n roll goddess for a cosmetic surgeon!
RR L they’ve gone now ☹️
Dr Sarah Tonks oh perhaps one day they will return. Or be purple or blue! But with your coloring pink is the bomb!
RR L I had turquoise a couple of years ago and loved it
I love how honest she is!
Plastic surgeons Rn assistant here. I hate thread lifts. Hate them! I’ve seen patients two-three years later whose threads have literally sawn through their cheeks and they are left with a near impossible to correct sinus tract. Yes! A tract that drains saliva outside the wound and down the cheek possibly forever! One woman, who was also a friend, had an open wound for 5 year until a plastic surgeon finally agree to do radical surgery to repair it. She is permanently disfigured. Don’t have a thread lift. It’s not worth it. Even when they “work” they look like shit.
Scary stuff! Thank you for sharing your knowledge RR L. That's put me right off ever getting that done!
RR Thanks for reporting ❤️
Thank you for your message. I was really in doubt but you and Sarah did put me off doing them forever and ever. :)
My Mum has a beautiful thread lift. Honestly if you applied that attitude, based on all the clearly TERRIBLE filler work out there, then nobody would get that done either. Same for botched Botox - tonnes of bad experiences of all treatment on www.realself.com
Amusegirl1980 I agree there is no shortage of bad work being done. But at least fillers don’t last forever. The things I’ve seen with thread lifts years after is chilling. I am happy your mom is happy and sincerely hope she stays that way.
I did threads. They looked great. My fave definitely got wider. But I only did a few. I liked it.
Funny that this is my biggest fear. I had an inflammation (not cosmetic related) and wouldn’t take steroids bc I was afraid of getting my face looking wider 😀 Thank you for saying that.
It's like you're reading my mind! I've been researching thread lifts a lot this past week! haha
I had threads lift done twice absolutely love the result. Not much lift but enough to make a difference and improve quality of the skin.
@Olga ok. So nice to hear a positive comment and result :) What type of threads did you have done please Olga?
I liked the before better.
I think she looked great before the procedure. It also seems that the interventions are never ending. Even after the lift, you mentioned a long list of other procedures you would perform on her. When does it end? When is it enough? When are we happy with our face? If you dissect the face piece by piece, like you did here, a person will never be content and happy with their appearance no matter how many procedures they do.
46 year old here, and I think a problem a lot of people have when it comes to peels, plastic surgery, etc, is that they want to look *younger* and not simply “better.” The model in this procedure did look younger after. Having a shorter, more elfin face makes one look younger. But, as you point out, she might have looked “better” with different procedures. Perhaps some people want to do one big thing rather than several small things?
I recently found myself feeling that I looked too old and drawn, so I renewed my motivation to get microdermabrasion, and also decided to start wearing my hair long and down. With long hair, I no longer notice my long face, LOL! Sometimes it makes more sense to revamp your look or personal style, rather than trying to change the shape of your face.
Get those threads in
Thank you so much for this video. I have been debating a thread lift & now I am 100% going to do some fillers first. This could not have come at a better time. ❤️
I never heard of this treatment, interesting. but sorry, she looked sooo much better before :/
I’m 28 and have a long face. I would love a thread lift in the cheeks to round my face out. This was incredibly informative.
The key to @DR SArah Tonks vlogs for me is the honest objectivity, I'm not at all interested in who's pretty and who isn't. The very best beauty comes from kick ass confidence, self belief, kindness and empathy towards others and self. I'm more interested in understanding the facts. Thanks Dr Sarah for these videos, you are wonderful. Your videos are helping me save lots of money as I am still not investing in many of these treatments
Wow you are so amazingly talented! And I can’t help noticing that you have gorgeous wardrobe, can’t wait for your next video😊
Hmmm...she looked better before. I mean, she does maybe look a tiny bit YOUNGER, but her face shape was more flattering before. Could you please do a review or video on Profound for jowl tightening? I think that's really my only option that might accomplish something short of a facelift on my lower face but it is SO expensive.
Agree but It's a slightly misleading image. Her face is slightly tilted down in the after pic and she is wearing her headband lower which makes her face look shorter. It probably looked better in real life
Chabang hi sorry I don’t know Profound
You’re so rude
Chabang maybe a real lift or Kybella is way better.
I agree on jowl tightening.. there has to better methods to do for it, that are not so expensive! I don’t want to do my whole face just the dang gowls 😃
Love your dress, you make it look amazing!
I can’t agree with you enough, the only place where the threads have good results is her neck. I think fillers and toxin would’ve given her much more of the results she wanted. I now have a much better understanding of why you don’t like doing these! Thank you for keeping us so well educated, and for all of the information at the beginning of the video and not just diving into the procedure. It’s really interesting to know the why and how behind the procedure, the different types available, potential side effects, etc.
First time I’m going to say ...she looked better before .
Now she looks melted .
She looks amazing. People also do not realize that this type of procedure takes more than one session. Typically around three sessions. I’ve had this done years ago. Also I must say that she does have a more rounded softer shape. And the same thing happened to me. Having a more rounder shape is less photogenic. Sharper features Photgrapher better. But amazing work doctor. I watch your channel all the time. 😘
What 3 lots of those threads ?
Brilliant video. So honest and informative! I've been considering having these done, but after seeing this and reading some of the comments, I'm not sure I want to any more. Thanks everybody for your input 🙏❤
Yeah... no. Though she did get a decrease in the crepe neck, the rest of her face now looks to wide. Not a fan of thread lifts. With the amount of time it takes to settle down and the real possibilities of fistula formation. A mini lift and more conservative treatments and fillers seem the wiser choice to me.
100% agree!
@@Renee933 You know... None of the plastic surgeons or dermatologists that I ever worked with, never had any plastic or aesthetic treatments done to their own wrinkled self. Male or female.🤗😎
annette fournier that’s interesting. I was married to a plastic surgeon for 19 yrs and he had work done. Pretty much all the wives have work done. But Texas has great surgeons so the work looks pretty good. But to your point, I remember sitting and speaking to an ophthalmologist about Lasix surgery and noticing halfway through the consultation that he was wearing glasses. 🤔🤓
@@Renee933 difference between cultures in different parts of the country. Very interesting. I was in coastal New England. About 1/3 the wives, none of the docs. Now the mistresses... they had work done. 🤣😎
annette fournier 😂 The riff at conferences is “same slides, different wives”. 🤣
I could see a very natural rejuvenated look and she looked very good. That being said, your much appreciated candid comments on positives and negatives of products or procedure you use or have researched and after watching the procedure, I could not bring myself to placing a permanent foreign substance in my body. Kudos to all those who have done it and love it but it just isn't for me...
Think you did a great job explaining threadlift. Very informative .
Oh dear she looks much better before x
I was totally thinking the same!
I hate to say but you are exactly the type of doctor I don’t like going to. There is a reason why people have a ‘bee on their bonnet’ for certain procedures. You just don’t like to do this procedure so just leave it at that and don’t insult your patient.
I am so glad you put this out. I was considering it and now forget it!!!
Doh! I was quite into the idea of a thread lift and now I'm thinking on... Oh well, can't be too well informed (you do a great job of explaining the issues and the variables to consider - thank you)
Very informative. I guess I never knew what a "thread lift' was actually. I certainly see some lift apparent, a bit similar to that old trick of smooshing your face up to mimic a facelift but also see that filler is probably needed to address some areas too,
Results are really apparent immediately after this treatment but you need to overcorrect in practice so that once everything settles down you have a really nice result ☺️ 100% a. mix of threads and filler would be best for most patients
Thank you for being so honest about the down time on this procedure. I love your videos 😍
Thanks so much for being down to earth, honest and authentic ✌
It really does not compare to a mini facelift. I do no see much of a difference. But i am glad i watched this so now i know i would not have that done . This is just my own opinion.
I have seen many thread lifts & this is absolutely the 1st one where the face is wider🤔 I believe the after picture is after the 3 mls of filler you added. Threads lift up, after my cousin's her chubby cheeks appeared smaller from the tightening & her face appeared thinner.
I almost got a thread lift years ago and went to a extremely well-known plastic surgeon in Charleston South Carolina. He said please do not consider doing a thread lift he said that he did more surgeries to remove them then a actual face lift. As the years go by they start to look worse and worse and you can feel them inside and women want them out. So I would recommend never going that route
They dissolve.
Omg thread lifts sound and look really scary! I agree with you that the fillers and botox in the proper locations would've probably looked better.
Firstly, I LOVE your total honesty .... and your great SOH!! Thanks for managing to make me smile in virtually every video! I'd also have total confidence in your recommendation but as I live in Australia, I can't see myself coming to London for treatment, especially as I expect that you are booked up years ahead just with your 'regular' patients. Mind you, I watch your videos with a couple of my friends and we would all love to have you living here! :) I have a Bells Palsy thanks to CIDP and am fed up with constantly being asked if I've had a stroke. The nasolabial fold appears to be quite dropped because the other side has remained quite good .. I'm 67 and am regularly told that I look 10 to 15 years younger (not that I can see it) apart from the 'stroke' effect. My doctor suggested that I'd be better off with thread lifting than Botox, fillers, etc., what type of thread would you suggest for the fold? I'm also aware that there are solvable threads , however with a limited budget, I wouldn't envisage having it repeated down the track. Your suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
This is really interesting as I was thinking of getting a threadlift. From this, I think I would be much better off with fillers. Thank you!
Rou8nder, smoother jawline but neck is very much improved...only 3 weeks out where maximum effect will take several weeks longer.
In my experience, people who love what they do are great at it and vice versa.
The "Before" looks better than the "After"
I got 35 done. I got one bruise. Swelling was almost non existent. I took arnica before hand. I haven't really seen too much of a result and I'm pretty young with good skin. Hopefully, I'll see some good results. Doc charged me 3k. I got PDO threads. Doc said it would last for about 1 to 1.5 yrs. Hopefully, it will last longer.
I do love how you explain the procedures :)
So it's a real thread? A chemical thread? Is it a permanent implant? Does it dissolve? How does it interact with the surrounding tissue? Are they easily removed?
soraninja it’s a PDO thread which is the same stuff dissolvable stitches are made from. It dissolves and it causes a little fibrosis in surrounding tissues which holds the face up
You are so amazing.. love the quality and detail of your videos!!!!
Always great Dr … looking super cool in this outfit
Thank youuuu
Thank you for this video, it’s very educational. I really enjoy this style of video and of course the videos where you review the stars lol.
This is really interesting. She actually looks better before
OMG, I didn't do this because I was afraid it would drive me crazy to have something under my skin. Now I'm so glad didn't! All I need is a rounder face -- then with fillers? I would have balloon head.
Excellent video. Very informative, thank you 😊
Thanks very much! I'm doing lot's of threadlifting over on my account @drsarahtonks on IG at the moment - doing some filming on it today in fact! Trying out a new brand called Aptos
I'd love a video showing the results of multiple radiowave treatments and who is a good candidate for those. Thanks!
So informative - this was next on my list but now Im going to wait for my Aqualyx results instead
You are honest!!! That really good of you =) I'm almost 60 years old and have never had anything done to my face but since last year I've lost a lot of wights and have two lines on each side of my mouth which I've been told can be sorted by having fillers. The thing is I'm very scared of things going wrong. What would you suggest? Thank you so much
Faranak Peart I’m not a doctor, but I would say make sure you go to a good doctor and don’t feel rushed into it. Try going to a doctor just for a consultation and if you’re not comfortable with them or are still not sure if you actually want to do it yet just tell them you want to think about it a bit more.
Faranak Peart thank you!!
Ihave known a woman that had the acupuncture done around her lips. Looks very nice for years!
I need to say you look gorgeous wearing that blouse. So beautiful! Xx
Chloe Turner I know right ?
I love it. And her hair color with the pink at the ends
Oh wow, is it just me? I think she looks better in the before photo on the left.
Loved this!
And you win the ‘best name’ 🥇
What are your favorite lasers to tighten skin? Under eyes and neck?
Fantastic information, thank you so much!
Can you please do a video about the lip flip technique and if it's better than lip filler
Also, I'm curious what Aqualix (sp?) is? It was mentioned for dissolving fat around the lower face. I've never heard of it before! Any chance of a video on this procedure down the road? Thank you!
I don't know how old the patient was, but I thought she was beautiful and didn't need a thing done. I agree that I thought she looked better before but the angle of the after photo was slightly different so It's hard to say for sure.
thank you so much for being honest Dr Sarah. I have just had thread lifts put in by my cosmetic doctor; it is nearly two weeks now and one side is still painful should I apply pressure ,say,when I am cleansing my face. On the plus side, I love the results.
She looks natural and beautiful for her age. She also smart, successful and accomplished to afford a luxury like this. I'm sure she notices more than the man who loves her before she even started.
Gorgeous pink and blonde hair
Looking gorgeous Dr Tonks
Look, there have been many people who have had this procedure undertaken as long back as 10/15 years ago (it aint a new thing) and many have had them taken out, simply because they have felt that they were not that good, and decided to go for other types of procedures which they had chosen because they felt it offered them a much better outcome (after obtaining lots of information of course regarding the pros and cons of these alternative treatments) ....if I had this procedure undertaken, I would want to know the reality of the real downsides, its upto everyone to ensure they get the fullest information about these things, from several different practioners to gain the necessary info re: this procedure ,not just the rosy side. This doctor undertakes to give both sides here and I applaud that, we are adult's ,we can take it !
I always thought a thread lift would be an option for me at some point but after watching this video and comments from RRL I’ve given up that thought! I previously read where these were an easy dr visit treatment and the aftermath wasn’t discussed. Thanks for your honestly. I’m going to continue my own good skin treatments and will consider fillers and laser options. 😊 I don’t think there is enough of a positive difference for her to have undertaken this procedure.
Kat BeWitched it’s a hard thing to go through not a lot of people can do it
I honestly think she looked better before the threads.
How long would the results last? How do you remove them if one wanted to? Estimated cost?
Can you see them under the skin? Is there any visual pulling lines or puckering on the skin if she moves side to side?
Thank you ❤️
Mmmm.... not sure about this
I think she looks better without threads Sorry 😳
Totally agree. Her face just looks fatter somehow.
I agree but maybe it's because of the swelling ? She probably looks good after a few months or weeks.
Love this video! Was considering threadlift but had an Ulthera instead - can you do another one about Mesotherapy on the face!! thanks so much!
S. Wan I just had Ulthera- loved it
@@DrSarahTonks woohoo here you go!! I was told doing Ulthera will accelerate the aging of the skin, so I am not sure how often I should do it. Have you heard anything like this? Btw would love to visit your clinic when I am in London in May!
S. Wan I like it for people with fuller faces, don’t use it for people with skinny faces
@@DrSarahTonks I for sure have a fuller face! That's good to know. Why is that specifically if you don't mind? Would love to see more videos from you on how to stay younger looking for longer!!
S. Wan skinny faces better with a 🛒 of filler
👍🏼 you look gorgeous in this vid.
Thx for another interesting topic 💓
Interesting I see zero improvement whatsoever in the face. Nothing. It looks exactly the same as the before photo.
However, the neck looks amazing afterwards! I can see a real tangible difference there!
I am curious to know about longevity. How long do the results last, and does that justify the higher cost of the treatment?
Great information. Thank you so much.
great presentation, information. How about adding average estimate costs for procedures?
I was very disappointed with my thread lift. I did not see a big difference and it did not last. (S/ Soft )
N B same!
Threadlifts were extremely popular in the States a few years ago. One company advertised on tv relentlessly.
The only problem was that the threadlifts often fell apart soon after. Needless to say the patients were very cross. They went to see attorneys. The company was deluged with lawsuits and went out of business. Beware!
That was so informative Doctor & as usual I love love love you & your admiral honesty! 😘. There’s an American Doctor that I follow that really loves them & makes it sound like a stroll in the park 😳. Good to hear the reality, thank you.
PS. Looking absolutely gorgeous
Marie Marinozzi it hurts like hell. And they all Tell you it doesn’t which ist total BS . I got mine for free and would not have paid for that kind of pain, ever.
She is beautiful and I dont see a huge change. She had the beauty before.
My face is quite puffy and I’m worried Botox will add to that
Lots of other options in the injectables domain! You never want to look puffy though you're right it's more about sharp borders and re-filling area of volume-loss.
“ bee in your bonnet “ 😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣 love her!
She looked so much better tho before the procedure. Was the before on the right?? Im guessing so bc her face is very round after.
You’re wrong before is on the left
Oh dear, Your title says, "Why I don't love doing this particular procedure!" Perhaps you should stop doing it all together? Your model is beautiful but looks better before. I feel so bad for her. I hope she did get her money back. I was scheduled to have this procedure done next week. I cancelled my appointment after watching this video.
Head band is much lower shorting her face
Doctor why did her face get so much wider..do the threads do that? I thought threads would slim the face
It’s interesting isn’t it for her I would say that her face is shorter looking because the jowl has been pulled up and this in turn makes her look like the face is wider
I feel like a tool saying this but I can't help it! If I were that model, I'd forgo the thread lift and have cosmetic dentistry. Her teeth looked pretty bad. But she had an absolutely beautiful eye color.
I would do both threads and fillers, depending on the area. For the neck the threads were awesome and she has to insist on them to keep the jowl in good shape. But no need for the face unless some time passes and we see an updated pic with the progress. I see a nice smooth forehead and very good skin, the problematic area is mostly the eyes where the skin is loose. Maybe she is afraid of doing anything too close to the eyes? I would tell her to go for a small tweak at least.
How would you lift the inner brow up as you mentioned youd do?
Can you get rid of jowls with fillers along and not have a thread lift thanks
fiona berger sometimes yes
I would never let anyone with pink hair come anywhere near my face, ESPECIALLY one armed with a scalpel and a needle.
vishyswa I had a dr give me a blood transfusion .. she had a very pretty raspberry color hair. The dr who gave me an emergency d&c had a ton of tattoos.
Never judge a book by its cover.
Edit: THEY SAVED MY LIFE.
Read that again.
@@waveafterwave0723 We're talking about apples and oranges here, pal: elective vs emergency surgery. Did you happen to read the comments about this particular client's results?
Her neck looks like mine and I loved the results she got. I thought you had to be put out for thread lifts, found this really interesting and just wish I had the finances for a consultation with you :0) xx
xxxJoolsxxx it’s done under local anaesthetic
Dr Sarah Tonks is it really expensive?
xxxJoolsxxx depends how many threads you put in
@@DrSarahTonks Thanks I may have to look into this more :0) x
Diversity of content. Amazing!
How do you not get the width in the cheekbone /side of face?
I want to avoid the width.
Don’t our filler directly on top of the cheekbone
The neck looks better. But, she doesn't look better. She looks like she gained 20 lbs. I have had several friends go through all these procedures and I will be saving up for a full face lift when the time comes and I will not bother with any of these threads. That is the only thing I see really to make a difference, a full face lift done by a talented surgeon. The fillers always help if you have a tech who knows what they are doing. Otherwise you can look like a chipmunk or distorted. Fillers and botox can do a lot if in the right hands. I see too many peeps coming out looking redic. My one girlfriend said to me just last week, "don't toss your money out the window. Save up for a face lift".
This is a relatively new process for lifting. I considered it but no thank you. After researching this procedure I concluded it is still new and pretty invasive. This lady was looking good before the procedure, but after the threads the shape of her face changed ( and not only the swelling) and it was not the flattering. Besides all that, that many threads must have cost her a fortune!
I think that the main thrust of this was to soften the neck, which was beautifully achieved, imho.
Thank you Doc!
Hi :) do you think, that using only the small 2-3cm ones in the neck could be enough for the exact same result - without the barbed ones - by using maybe if needed just more pieces (or adding screw ones)? I would think just because they seem less invasive and secondly in the neck you work only vertically, so might not be necessary always to use the larger barbed ones. 🤷🏻♀️ What is your experience?