@ScreenCrush I've been waiting to see if someone else was going to address another small clue. When Jen was struggling to get out of the body bag. Agatha told Billy "Don't steal her struggle!" I believe that that had a clue with a double entendre in it. I actually smiled when she said it. It was like she was really saying "Don't steal her pride. Let her figure it out for herself." Letting Jen get out on her own wasn't about sticking it to Jen per se. It was a hint that Agatha didn't steal Billy's struggle to freedom and self discovery away. By ending his witch's road the minute she figured it out! She was hinting at a lesson for Billy with sincerity in that statement.
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Plus pragmatically, when Wanda created her hex, she didn't create space, she transformed Westview. And then here when they start walking the road, Mrs. Hart says all that she thought was underground was an abandoned subway system. So Billy was using that space to transform into the road. That's why they come full circle at the end, because there was only so much space.
Honestly I suspect this is why their broom flight was cut short - they're never actually in the sky, so they run out of space quick. It's like a theme park ride.
A subway track is also a complete loop. When the subway train reaches the last stop, it turns around and goes back in the other direction (ignoring the rail house where the trains are stored overnight lol)
I just realized what was happening during the police station scenes with Harold. She was likely at his house during those scenes. That's why he comes in turns off the light and tells her to go home. It's probably his office or den or something and he's like, ok I've gone with it long enough today. 😂
The funniest reveal about episode 6 is that Teen wasn't "playing along" or humoring Agatha - which is what post-spell Agatha assumed had been happening with the whole town. So everybody was probably being politely concerned about her as she had fully imaginary conversations with them. Funnier still that the library and the precinct were probably the same house.
One of the million brilliant things about how that episode is edited together is that we cut away from Billy at that point to make it a little less obvious that he summoned her right then.
In episode 8 when they end up back at the shoes... Billy gets yelled by a pissed off Agatha. Then when they are thinking about what to do next, Billy starts tobsay "Maybe...." but is cut off angrily by Agatha. Something like "if you dont know then keep quiet!" If he verbalizes a what if then she knows he may conjure it into existence so she doesnt want to give him the chance.
Here's a fun thing I noticed this weekend when I was listening to the soundtrack - there's a "true crime" version of the ballad that's used as the credits for Agatha of Eastview. I totally had forgotten about it, but in order to fit in with the 'crime procedural' genre, it uses the lyrics 'down the winding road'....but that's actually closer to the original lyrics!
It was so much fun rewatching the series after seeing the finale! The number of easter eggs and foreshadowing was mind-blowing! It’s so satisfying putting all the puzzle pieces together! Now it makes sense why Agatha grew a liking to Billy in the early episodes. He reminded her so much of her son Nicky. Billy kinda took on Nicky’s role of being an accomplice to Agatha esp. when they were recruiting witches to go to the Witches’ Road
That scene of Agatha watching over Billy is breaking after seeing episode 9. No wonder she’s so adamant that Rio not to come close to Billy while he’s sleeping. The trauma of losing your on child is to much to handle, even after hundreds of years.
Well in my opinion it is because she created her child from scratch... In response to not being able to get over losing her 1 and only child for 100yrs 😢
Unless I missed it in this vid, you guys missed the line where Agatha tells Billy one of the ways she knew he was Wanda's kid was they have the same tell. He asks what it is and she says wouldn't he like to know. The tell is that they both unknowingly made hexes in moments of extreme emotional stress based on the influences from their life and surroundings (Wanda the shows she used to watch and Billy from the stuff in his room which was related to the movies, music and art he enjoyed).
She wouldn't know about the stuff in his room though, but she does know that the road is obviously Billy's creation, since she knows all of the other witches (and the non-witch).
Well "Rio" isn't a witch, and regardless of Billy's reality warping powers, her powers are even more grand, hence why she can slip in and out of this made up reality.
@@Mike__B in episode 7, IIRC, we learn that Rio, aka Lady Death, IS in fact a witch... The original "green witch", which makes perfect sense because the green witch is tied to the cycle of living things giving way to death, which in turn gives way to new life. And, when the other members of the coven first meet Rio, and they ask her if she's a green witch... Her response is "Less of A green witch, more of THE green witch!" with the last 3 words being spoken in an almost demonic voice. Just because she's a cosmic being doesn't mean she can't also be a witch. I'm not trying to pretend that I understand, but I suppose if you're an immortal being, with cosmic levels of power and responsibility, if you wanted to learn magic, it should be fairly simple given that you already have "powers" and you have eternity to learn, given you're immortal.
@@Mike__B She IS a green witch and also lady death so it makes sense that she's not hindered by the road in any sense not because she's "not" a witch herself but she's just that powerful. That's why she's rarely ever seen with them on the road.
@@jedirayden I mean she predates all life in any Universe she exists in, and she's practically omnipotent at least when it comes to mortal beings, so I guess she can do whatever she wants. I feel the MCU kind of "messed up" Death anyways in the MCU-verse compared to her comic counterpart, she's just too damn yappy, Death is usually a very relative quite being.
Lorna Wu died in a hotel fire while on tour, "on the road', the rumor she died on the witches' road started cause she popularized the ballad and other witches assumed her fans were her coven and she was trying to open the road and she did eventually then died on it (Alice confirms she died on tour during one of the episodes and it also explains her hallucination in the sauna) but we know it was actually a protection spell for Alice
Originally they planned for him to go on the road and have an arc as well, but it was too much bloat. I think he's gonna get possessed by Nicky, influenced by Mephisto, and that's how we see old man Nicky, via him sacrificing animals to manifest. Would be very fitting
All through the series there was talk about no one surviving the road, but the thing they weren't surviving was Agatha herself and the road was the perfect cover for why all these witches died.
‘Agatha All Along’ is such an incredible name for the show, because the entire legend of the road, was Agatha All Along. I’m so glad they changed the title to it.
I heard that it was always going to be called that, but other names were used to confuse people as to what the plot would entail? I avoided all the previews and trailers for this to try and watch it without any preconceptions and to miss any spoilers because I waited until 1st Nov to resub to D+ to view it all in one go! I still accidentally read that the teen was Billy because I was trying to work out what I'd seen his dad in before (Private Practice)!
Did anyone else notice the episode 1 “Winding Road” true-crime fantasy version sung by Matthew Mayfield is closer to the original song Nicky and Agatha came up with in episode 9? This show is brilliantly written.
I think why Agatha was so pissed at Billy was because he literally said “earth magic with no green witch, we’re back to square one” and then they appeared back to the beginning, thus why she yells “you don’t know how to keep quiet“ at Billy. At this point she already had that inclination that what ever he speaks gets written into reality.
@ScreenCrush I've been waiting to see if someone else was going to address another small clue. When Jen was struggling to get out of the body bag. Agatha told Billy "Don't steal her struggle!" I believe that that had a clue with a double entendre in it. I actually smiled when she said it. It was like she was really saying "Don't steal her pride. Let her figure it out for herself." Letting Jen get out on her own wasn't about sticking it to Jen per se. It was a hint that Agatha didn't steal Billy's struggle to freedom and self discovery away. By ending his witch's road the minute she figured it out! She was hinting at a lesson for Billy with sincerity in that statement.
Teaching him that some lessons have to be learned the hard way. Underlining her later sacrifice as something he shouldn't take away from her. I'm getting chills lol it's just so good
She was sincere with him on a lot of things, telling him the Road isn't real, and even laying out to him, while omitting one important detail, that they just need to gather some witchy enough people to generate a spark they can use.
@@xsanguine8Agatha wasn't only born evil, she also born teaching 😂. She just couldn't help but taught Wanda runes, introduced darkhold and made her reviewed her life. Now she helped Billy in everything she could. What would she do next? Help white vision to define itself?😂😂
This is from episode 7, but I dunno how many more AAA vids we're getting. I haven't seen anyone else mention this anywhere. It's a deep cut for the live music fans out there. Alice's Tarot card with the knight-like protector on it has the iconic Red Rocks Amphitheater profile shot as the background of the card. According to the convo her and Billy had during the first trial, she was with her mom on the Red Rocks stop of a tour when she was 13 and got the protection tattoo (which I'd also theorize is what made her a protection witch as well). But yeah, go look up Red Rocks Amphitheater and compare the profile image of the venue with the rock on the back of the card. It's exactly the same. 🎸🎶
@@dzerkle for non comic readers i could see this show being really surprising. But for me, it was telegraphed extremely clearly from the moment he's even breaking in lol
Minor point, but yet another clue: In Rio's scene just as Ryan says she is like an adult that wandered into a children's game, the skipping she is doing is the same dance move that Dorothy does just as she starts down the Yellow Brick Road.
I knew this show is going to be so re-watchable when i heard Agatha humming Down the witches road in that opening scene 😮, took me completely by surprise like how didn't we remember that all
The abandoned subway station appeared because they were actually under Westview. Lilia actually asked Jen to return to the hex because she knew she'd regain her powers there even if the Road was fake. I loved Lilia's character. Also, The Wizard of Oz has long been associated with the LGBTQ+ community, so that at first made me think that the whole thing was made for Billy.
The ENTIRE Witches Road was one big trial for Agatha. She created the song with her son. That song was used to rob other witches of their power. The story of the Witches Road is Agatha Harkness' story. I love that she's comic accurate now after sacrificing herself. Great series 👏
This show was just amazing. Everything was so well written, wrapped up and interconnected. Seriously, Marvel, give these people authority over movies and the big plot from now on!
My favorite clever-in-retrospect exchange was when they spot the first trial house: "Was that always there?" "We should stop asking that question." Agatha knows it's being made up as they go along.
I think Rio didn't know who Billy was until the end, she says to Agatha in episode 8 "You were distracting me from him" so it seems like she didn't put it together until the end. When she said "that boy isn't yours" I think she really is saying he's not Nicholas Scratch because Agatha had clearly grown attached and might've hoped that her son had somehow been reincarnated. That's why Agatha had such an emotional reaction to that line.
Here's a tell that folks have missed: In the first two trials there are life threatening windows: First the glass window that Agatha cracks suddenly is underwater and if it breaks everyone dies, and then in the second trial teen is thrown through the mirrored window and is near death with glass lodged in his abdomen. In episode 6 we learn that William Kaplan's death included smashing his head through the car window during the car wreck. I also think part of the reason Agatha was so desperate to save teen at the end of episode 4 is because she's not sure what would happen to herself if the teen dies while she's in his creation.
Don't think I've seen this theory in any videos, is the reason that the train station and way out appear in the tunnel is that they are far enough away from Billy to be on the edge of his influence, like the edge of the hex had no visible edge before Wanda realised what was happening.
The writing on this show is just NEXT level, this is the level not only marvel shows but all shows should aspire to in terms of writing impactful and cohesive stories! Jac Shafer you are a freaking genius!
GO DISNEY GO!! Everything they're doing with Marvel in the MCU is AWESOME. Agatha All Along is a total vibe, and Billy Maximoff is hands down the best character -he's got so much potential! The hype is real for Avengers Secret Wars, and Ijust know Spider-Man is going to play a huge role. Plus, seeing Robert Downey Jr. as Doomsday in Avengers is going to be insane! And don't even get me started on Loki, WandaVision, and finally getting Deadpool & Wolverine together this year! Keep it coming, Disney. :)
@@StrangeStartrackerArt the curse got her when she was “on the road”, in a fire. Which tracks with the form the curse took when we saw it on the witches road.
What!? 😂 did you read this before you pressed send? So AFTER Alice BEAT the curse (which we all saw) you think the curse still killed her, AS she went to save Agatha and blasted her with her powers even though Agatha drained her powers and we saw the power’s color go from orange/red to purple? Alice was a protection witch…Rio, who is DEATH confirmed to Alice that she died protecting somebody. THATS why Alice died, even though she beat the curse her “goal” was to help somebody thats why she was still able to die after completing her trial. I’m sorry, its not you personally but this ideology was dumb af 😂 makes no sense we literally WATCHED how Alice died. And you’re ON A BREAKDOWN video so clearly you watch breakdowns you’re literally just creating your own narrative atp
@double-anj225 What? I said Lorna, not Alice. Ryan said that he thinks Agatha killed Lorna on the road. But Alice said that Lorna died of a fire in a hotel, probably from the curse. Do you know the difference between Alice and Lorna? One was a rocking milf and the other way killed by Agatha.
I love how the ballad meant different things to agatha in different stages of her life. I also love how she was taken with billy so much for not just being the son of a powerful witch who could create a hex of his own, but because he materialized something that she dreamed of with her own son
9:54 -- it also is an in-narrative nod to when Teen, in the original interrogation, asked Agatha why she was staring at the painting (which she originally perceived as a 2-way mirror in the police interrogation room which was actually her living room); it's a nod to how later on we discover that the beach scene/house was based off the painting in Billy's room.
You made a mistake here, Ryan. While the mystique of the Witches' Road was never real, the Woo curse was. So, Agatha Harkness never killed Lorna Woo, her family curse did.
One thing to note: in the fake Crime Drama opening credits, the lyrics sung was the original lyrics "Down, down the winding road", another indication of her subconscious trying to come out about her memory of her time with Nicholas.
In episode 3, the actual reason Agatha saw that fantasy because Billy can read all the minds and see the deepest traumas (like her mother) but Aghata's.
Dont forget in episode 4, when Billy says, in response to Sharon's death, "People cant be replaced!" And Agatha responds, "Cant they?" She's referencing both how Billy came back from the dead, but also how she has effectively "replaced" her son with him. Billy's faith in the ballad is what convinces witches to join them, just like Nicky's singing did in the past.
Hah, mom did tv shows, he did films. Super cute detail. I like the storytelling style of this and wandavision... a big arc that you get excited to rewatch to catch the details that seemed tiny, if noticed. That's why I liked dr.who #9 & #10. This also gives me hope for the Marvel brand for film/TV.
“Agatha killed her mom right?” …No, it’s plainly stated by Alice that her mother died in a hotel fire while on tour with her band. Agatha would feel no need to create a fire to cover up her kill and the fire ties in with Alice’s family curse. I’m kinda confused how you missed this but I have seen various other people posting the same theory online so I guess a lot of people did. “Agatha tries to lay down rules for the road but Billy corrects her” Um, no he doesn’t. She tells them not to go off road and he quotes back a line from the ballad which translates to the exact thing she just said meaning he’s essentially saying “Oh just like the ballad tells us.” not disagreeing with a word she said.
One of my favorite “I missed it the first time” moments is when Billy says the thing he wants from the road is power, Agatha switches from leaned-in and vested to dismissing him. We wanted her to be a good guy anti-hero so we took her dissuading him and dismissing him, saying “it’s too dangerous” at face value. In reality, she just couldn’t be bothered with him anymore, believing that he didn’t have any power for her to steal.
Rio being Death was Super Obvious the whole time to me but when it was revealed Billy created The Witches Road I was floored. More floored that I didn't see it coming
I scrolled through the comments and I don’t see this mentioned but, earlier in the season I kept asking on Reddit if it was odd that the leaves on the ground when they first enter the road was blue. Because all the other leaves were the color of the power of the witch whose trial was coming up. And all the witches wore their magic color. But the first set of leaves weren’t pink. I guess we rationalized that it was blue for water phase, but in hindsight it’s because Billy never knew the color of Jen’s powers. Or he didn’t have how the road works figured out just yet.
So does this also mean Lilia knew the road was created by Bill too (at least by the time she was reading for him). The way she said “fitting” definitely seemed like she knew.
I think she started to speculate it could be, but the sigil kept her from really discussing it internally or externally. More like an instinctual understanding
Multiple times when Lilia is confronted with the concept of death, like after Sharon passes, her comments reflect a greater disdain for death than the rest of the gang... alluding to her flashback episode that reveals she's been consumed with the thought/ foresight of her own death for a while.
Alice immediately says they can't do that. If you notice, all the witches do put "facts" about the road in Billy's mind knowingly or unknowingly and he executes them into the road hex reality
Has anybody noticed the first line of the Ballad is the same melody of “Ding dong the witch is dead”? Which is interesting considering she hums it in the first episode
How about when Teen (Billy) was the only one who was attacked with shards of glass by the curse instead of fire? It was probably because the curse knew Billy was the one who created that reality. Maybe it knew to kill Billy so that it can escape or knew if that reality continued that the curse would be destroyed.
How about an anti-clue? I.e., a hint that the Road owed some of its existence to forces outside of Billy. In particular, every witch got what they were looking for, even though Billy wasn’t necessarily clear on what that was. Billy didn’t know, but the Road did. In particular, Alice got rid of the curse, Lorna got acceptance of her life and her death, Rio got the death of Agatha, and Kale found the witch who bound her. I think that was due to the coven singing the song. Some form of the Road was already ready and waiting until Billy pushed it all the way into existence. So many witches sang that song over so many years that it gained power and was no longer entirely a con.
Its crazy that after watching the finale that the clues were staring at us at this time. Especially seeing how Agatha at times looks at us like this is not real.
Agatha didnt kill Alices mom, she died to the generational curse in a fire. In fact in a roundabout way, she invented the witches road song that Lorna Wu made into a protection spell for her daughter
I've written about that before as well, they take on Doom and Billy ended up creating a sentient bubble universe to seal Doom in cuz they couldn't defeat him outright lol
After rewatching, the scene where the coven is asking the Ouija board "who's with us?" or "who are we speaking to?" (I can't remember the exact phrasing) but the board responds with "Death" and Rio cackles .. that was the biggest clue for me, that she was definitely Lady Death. This show was sooooooooo good omg!!!!
17:39 this is why, and I’m going to say it again for the 100th time, I believe she was Sharon Davis the whole time she came out of her “grave” in the road and it didn’t show her taking her and that could be why she was so close already in episode 1/2 and maybe was Mrs Hart the whole time🤷🏻♂️ and just didn’t show her hand because nobody dies in WandaVision and because she was watching the events unfold since Agatha was in power tech the whole time
I’m not hearing anyone mention that when the door to the witch’s road shows up it is in the shape of a hexagon. That was the first clue for me that it was a hex. In wandavision the whole town was covered in hexagon.
7:46 Oh, dang! Probably. Agatha probably wanted royalties for the song she and Nicholas wrote. Congrats on predicting one of the Treehouse of Horror segments with your Denim t-shirt.
Nobody talks about the reference to the TV show the Travelers. Who were only able to travel to the body of some one who just recently died. But in precise timing so it looks like they didnt .
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@ScreenCrush I've been waiting to see if someone else was going to address another small clue. When Jen was struggling to get out of the body bag. Agatha told Billy "Don't steal her struggle!" I believe that that had a clue with a double entendre in it. I actually smiled when she said it. It was like she was really saying "Don't steal her pride. Let her figure it out for herself." Letting Jen get out on her own wasn't about sticking it to Jen per se. It was a hint that Agatha didn't steal Billy's struggle to freedom and self discovery away. By ending his witch's road the minute she figured it out! She was hinting at a lesson for Billy with sincerity in that statement.
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Billy was literally the dungeon master.
A dungeon master that inserted his own character into the campaign.
I would sell my soul to Mephisto for that power to play dnd
😂😂😂
i think kind of the most perfect way to describe it.
And a dmpc
The fact that Agatha was just using Billy like a chat gpt prompt on the road is so funny to me
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Plus pragmatically, when Wanda created her hex, she didn't create space, she transformed Westview. And then here when they start walking the road, Mrs. Hart says all that she thought was underground was an abandoned subway system. So Billy was using that space to transform into the road. That's why they come full circle at the end, because there was only so much space.
And why the exit for Lidia and Jen was an abandoned subway tunnel.
That is just brilliant
Honestly I suspect this is why their broom flight was cut short - they're never actually in the sky, so they run out of space quick. It's like a theme park ride.
A subway track is also a complete loop. When the subway train reaches the last stop, it turns around and goes back in the other direction (ignoring the rail house where the trains are stored overnight lol)
Except the brooms took them really high up 😂 also multiple trials didn’t conform to the laws of physics
I mentioned this in another video but Agathas body becoming flowers mirrors the first episode where she sees Wanda's body but it's also just flowers
They're both "dead"
Weren’t they mushrooms?
@@agp87 it was a mix I think
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Nice catch!!!
Billy didn't change his room because he grew up, he changed the room because he wasn't the same person who decorated it.
Everything was so perfectly crafted in the show. Jac, the cast and crew deserve all the flowers they have been getting.
I just realized what was happening during the police station scenes with Harold. She was likely at his house during those scenes. That's why he comes in turns off the light and tells her to go home. It's probably his office or den or something and he's like, ok I've gone with it long enough today. 😂
The funniest reveal about episode 6 is that Teen wasn't "playing along" or humoring Agatha - which is what post-spell Agatha assumed had been happening with the whole town. So everybody was probably being politely concerned about her as she had fully imaginary conversations with them. Funnier still that the library and the precinct were probably the same house.
The “I wish Lilia was here” scene was a turning point for how a lot of us viewed The Road
One of the million brilliant things about how that episode is edited together is that we cut away from Billy at that point to make it a little less obvious that he summoned her right then.
@@LuigiHann true, Lilias mental jumps was so well done i forgot about the road for a second
In episode 8 when they end up back at the shoes... Billy gets yelled by a pissed off Agatha. Then when they are thinking about what to do next, Billy starts tobsay "Maybe...." but is cut off angrily by Agatha. Something like "if you dont know then keep quiet!"
If he verbalizes a what if then she knows he may conjure it into existence so she doesnt want to give him the chance.
Billy must felt dead in that moment.... so the next trial his made start like a morgue
That makes so much sense now. I loved the scene how she went full stressed out mama bear with that yell
Something I just realized Agatha keeps Billy away during the ballad so she won't kill him and she protects him every step of the road
Also as a form of self-preservation, since there's no telling what would happen if the source of the hex dies, especially since they're underground.
@sinteleon when the witches were singing too 'open' the road, Agatha sent Billy away. She's been protecting him from the jump.
She sent him away while she was killing witches, just like with Nicky
OMg. The re-watchability of this series was on par with Sixth Sense. So good.
They told us in episode 1 that this would be a mystery, and we didn't listen. But it's probably one of the best written mysteries since Knives Out.
Here's a fun thing I noticed this weekend when I was listening to the soundtrack - there's a "true crime" version of the ballad that's used as the credits for Agatha of Eastview. I totally had forgotten about it, but in order to fit in with the 'crime procedural' genre, it uses the lyrics 'down the winding road'....but that's actually closer to the original lyrics!
It was so much fun rewatching the series after seeing the finale! The number of easter eggs and foreshadowing was mind-blowing! It’s so satisfying putting all the puzzle pieces together! Now it makes sense why Agatha grew a liking to Billy in the early episodes. He reminded her so much of her son Nicky. Billy kinda took on Nicky’s role of being an accomplice to Agatha esp. when they were recruiting witches to go to the Witches’ Road
That scene of Agatha watching over Billy is breaking after seeing episode 9. No wonder she’s so adamant that Rio not to come close to Billy while he’s sleeping. The trauma of losing your on child is to much to handle, even after hundreds of years.
Well in my opinion it is because she created her child from scratch... In response to not being able to get over losing her 1 and only child for 100yrs 😢
The moment the Salem Seven truly scare Billy, his powers manifest the door to the Witches Road. It was definitely reactionary.
Yeah he needed an escape hatch RIGHT AWAY.
Unless I missed it in this vid, you guys missed the line where Agatha tells Billy one of the ways she knew he was Wanda's kid was they have the same tell. He asks what it is and she says wouldn't he like to know. The tell is that they both unknowingly made hexes in moments of extreme emotional stress based on the influences from their life and surroundings (Wanda the shows she used to watch and Billy from the stuff in his room which was related to the movies, music and art he enjoyed).
The minute he became truly afraid of the Salem 7, his powers mamifested the door to the Road.
rock on!
He really is a Maximoff, because none of those would've been that dramatic
She wouldn't know about the stuff in his room though, but she does know that the road is obviously Billy's creation, since she knows all of the other witches (and the non-witch).
@@sinteleonshe knew it was fake because she made the road up, not because of the other witches. 😭
Agatha obviously has taken an improv class at some point because she was just "Yes, and"ing her way through the series
Also, Rio never gets cursed in the challenge which should have been a clue that she wasn't bound by the "road"
Well "Rio" isn't a witch, and regardless of Billy's reality warping powers, her powers are even more grand, hence why she can slip in and out of this made up reality.
Neither was Billy, he just got tossed through a window.
@@Mike__B in episode 7, IIRC, we learn that Rio, aka Lady Death, IS in fact a witch... The original "green witch", which makes perfect sense because the green witch is tied to the cycle of living things giving way to death, which in turn gives way to new life.
And, when the other members of the coven first meet Rio, and they ask her if she's a green witch... Her response is "Less of A green witch, more of THE green witch!" with the last 3 words being spoken in an almost demonic voice.
Just because she's a cosmic being doesn't mean she can't also be a witch. I'm not trying to pretend that I understand, but I suppose if you're an immortal being, with cosmic levels of power and responsibility, if you wanted to learn magic, it should be fairly simple given that you already have "powers" and you have eternity to learn, given you're immortal.
@@Mike__B She IS a green witch and also lady death so it makes sense that she's not hindered by the road in any sense not because she's "not" a witch herself but she's just that powerful. That's why she's rarely ever seen with them on the road.
@@jedirayden I mean she predates all life in any Universe she exists in, and she's practically omnipotent at least when it comes to mortal beings, so I guess she can do whatever she wants. I feel the MCU kind of "messed up" Death anyways in the MCU-verse compared to her comic counterpart, she's just too damn yappy, Death is usually a very relative quite being.
Lorna Wu died in a hotel fire while on tour, "on the road', the rumor she died on the witches' road started cause she popularized the ballad and other witches assumed her fans were her coven and she was trying to open the road and she did eventually then died on it (Alice confirms she died on tour during one of the episodes and it also explains her hallucination in the sauna) but we know it was actually a protection spell for Alice
My biggest unanswered question is, what happened to the rabbit?
Originally they planned for him to go on the road and have an arc as well, but it was too much bloat. I think he's gonna get possessed by Nicky, influenced by Mephisto, and that's how we see old man Nicky, via him sacrificing animals to manifest. Would be very fitting
@@dumbguy1007 yep, Mephisto🍻🤣
I definitely thought Tommy was in the bunny
Alice is the bunny now, or Lilia, maybe Sharon. They shared.
@wytheli LMFAAAAOOOOOOOOOOO all 3 just bickering over if they have another carrot or some grass LMAAAOOOOOOO
All through the series there was talk about no one surviving the road, but the thing they weren't surviving was Agatha herself and the road was the perfect cover for why all these witches died.
‘Agatha All Along’ is such an incredible name for the show, because the entire legend of the road, was Agatha All Along. I’m so glad they changed the title to it.
I heard that it was always going to be called that, but other names were used to confuse people as to what the plot would entail? I avoided all the previews and trailers for this to try and watch it without any preconceptions and to miss any spoilers because I waited until 1st Nov to resub to D+ to view it all in one go! I still accidentally read that the teen was Billy because I was trying to work out what I'd seen his dad in before (Private Practice)!
Nah. It’s because they were coy about it being a Triple A storytelling in plain sight 🤪😜
Did anyone else notice the episode 1 “Winding Road” true-crime fantasy version sung by Matthew Mayfield is closer to the original song Nicky and Agatha came up with in episode 9? This show is brilliantly written.
She not only didn't trade the darkhold for Nicky, she also never had an actual crib. So that was a big clue by four for her.
The crib was a symbol. I absolutely believe she did trade the Darkhold for her first born son, later to be named Nicky.
I think why Agatha was so pissed at Billy was because he literally said “earth magic with no green witch, we’re back to square one” and then they appeared back to the beginning, thus why she yells “you don’t know how to keep quiet“ at Billy. At this point she already had that inclination that what ever he speaks gets written into reality.
“Are you sure” is so much creepier knowing what it meant cus it was creepy asf b4 lol
LOVED the twist in this series!! I hate it’s over but if their productions are gonna be this good I will impatiently wait😅
This show was masterfully written.
Episode 1 - 9:30
"It's been a long time."
"What are you doing here?"
"My job"
Rio literally tells us why she's there right from the start.
@@greywithana the LAYERRRSSSSSSSSS
This show just keeps getting better with every viewing.
@ScreenCrush I've been waiting to see if someone else was going to address another small clue. When Jen was struggling to get out of the body bag. Agatha told Billy "Don't steal her struggle!" I believe that that had a clue with a double entendre in it. I actually smiled when she said it. It was like she was really saying "Don't steal her pride. Let her figure it out for herself." Letting Jen get out on her own wasn't about sticking it to Jen per se. It was a hint that Agatha didn't steal Billy's struggle to freedom and self discovery away. By ending his witch's road the minute she figured it out! She was hinting at a lesson for Billy with sincerity in that statement.
Teaching him that some lessons have to be learned the hard way. Underlining her later sacrifice as something he shouldn't take away from her. I'm getting chills lol it's just so good
She was sincere with him on a lot of things, telling him the Road isn't real, and even laying out to him, while omitting one important detail, that they just need to gather some witchy enough people to generate a spark they can use.
@@xsanguine8Agatha wasn't only born evil, she also born teaching 😂. She just couldn't help but taught Wanda runes, introduced darkhold and made her reviewed her life. Now she helped Billy in everything she could. What would she do next? Help white vision to define itself?😂😂
OOooOooooh. OMG the script is so good.
This is from episode 7, but I dunno how many more AAA vids we're getting. I haven't seen anyone else mention this anywhere. It's a deep cut for the live music fans out there. Alice's Tarot card with the knight-like protector on it has the iconic Red Rocks Amphitheater profile shot as the background of the card. According to the convo her and Billy had during the first trial, she was with her mom on the Red Rocks stop of a tour when she was 13 and got the protection tattoo (which I'd also theorize is what made her a protection witch as well). But yeah, go look up Red Rocks Amphitheater and compare the profile image of the venue with the rock on the back of the card. It's exactly the same. 🎸🎶
@@gavino299 wooooooooow 🤯🥰
Charlie over at Emergency Awesome Predicted nearly everything that came to be by the end of the show from the start. Kudos to Charlie, well done sir!
That's why I don't watch videos about a show until the show is done.
We should have known the road was fake in episode 2 when it glowed with Billy's blue magic instead of Agatha's purple.
That was my tell. And he runs down the stairs scared, I figured that emotion caused it just like Mommy.
Not much of a clue at that point. We hadn’t met Billy’s color. There were multiple witches that sang, not just Agatha. In retrospect, though, yeah!
@@dzerkle for non comic readers i could see this show being really surprising. But for me, it was telegraphed extremely clearly from the moment he's even breaking in lol
Minor point, but yet another clue: In Rio's scene just as Ryan says she is like an adult that wandered into a children's game, the skipping she is doing is the same dance move that Dorothy does just as she starts down the Yellow Brick Road.
I knew this show is going to be so re-watchable when i heard Agatha humming Down the witches road in that opening scene 😮, took me completely by surprise like how didn't we remember that all
I love how the details in this series are very well-presented and obvious but not obvious! The production team did a great job considering the budget
The abandoned subway station appeared because they were actually under Westview. Lilia actually asked Jen to return to the hex because she knew she'd regain her powers there even if the Road was fake. I loved Lilia's character.
Also, The Wizard of Oz has long been associated with the LGBTQ+ community, so that at first made me think that the whole thing was made for Billy.
The ENTIRE Witches Road was one big trial for Agatha. She created the song with her son. That song was used to rob other witches of their power. The story of the Witches Road is Agatha Harkness' story. I love that she's comic accurate now after sacrificing herself. Great series 👏
I rewatched the show, and it was so funny seeing Agatha making shit up. LOL
This show was just amazing. Everything was so well written, wrapped up and interconnected. Seriously, Marvel, give these people authority over movies and the big plot from now on!
My favorite clever-in-retrospect exchange was when they spot the first trial house: "Was that always there?" "We should stop asking that question." Agatha knows it's being made up as they go along.
I think Rio didn't know who Billy was until the end, she says to Agatha in episode 8 "You were distracting me from him" so it seems like she didn't put it together until the end. When she said "that boy isn't yours" I think she really is saying he's not Nicholas Scratch because Agatha had clearly grown attached and might've hoped that her son had somehow been reincarnated. That's why Agatha had such an emotional reaction to that line.
Here's a tell that folks have missed: In the first two trials there are life threatening windows: First the glass window that Agatha cracks suddenly is underwater and if it breaks everyone dies, and then in the second trial teen is thrown through the mirrored window and is near death with glass lodged in his abdomen. In episode 6 we learn that William Kaplan's death included smashing his head through the car window during the car wreck. I also think part of the reason Agatha was so desperate to save teen at the end of episode 4 is because she's not sure what would happen to herself if the teen dies while she's in his creation.
that is a great catch
Great video. Made me appreciate this series a lot more than I originally did
Don't think I've seen this theory in any videos, is the reason that the train station and way out appear in the tunnel is that they are far enough away from Billy to be on the edge of his influence, like the edge of the hex had no visible edge before Wanda realised what was happening.
The writing on this show is just NEXT level, this is the level not only marvel shows but all shows should aspire to in terms of writing impactful and cohesive stories! Jac Shafer you are a freaking genius!
How about... EVERY CLUE That RIO is DEATH?
GO DISNEY GO!! Everything they're doing with Marvel in the MCU is AWESOME. Agatha All Along is a total vibe, and Billy Maximoff is hands down the best character -he's got so much potential! The hype is real for Avengers Secret Wars, and Ijust know Spider-Man is going to play a huge role. Plus, seeing Robert Downey Jr. as Doomsday in Avengers is going to be insane! And don't even get me started on Loki, WandaVision, and finally getting Deadpool & Wolverine together this year! Keep it coming, Disney. :)
0:51. Insert the moment from Mrs. Doubtfire. The-**THE WHOLE TIME!?!?**
One thing I don’t see anyone talking about was the evanescence “bring me to life” poster in Billy’s room. I mean that one just speaks for itself lol
Billy was TORTURING Agatha, all along.
I don't think Agatha killed Lorna Wu. I think she burned because of the curse...
She didn't, Alice said her mother died on the road, but not the witches' road. On tour
@@StrangeStartrackerArt the curse got her when she was “on the road”, in a fire. Which tracks with the form the curse took when we saw it on the witches road.
What!? 😂 did you read this before you pressed send?
So AFTER Alice BEAT the curse (which we all saw) you think the curse still killed her, AS she went to save Agatha and blasted her with her powers even though Agatha drained her powers and we saw the power’s color go from orange/red to purple? Alice was a protection witch…Rio, who is DEATH confirmed to Alice that she died protecting somebody. THATS why Alice died, even though she beat the curse her “goal” was to help somebody thats why she was still able to die after completing her trial. I’m sorry, its not you personally but this ideology was dumb af 😂 makes no sense we literally WATCHED how Alice died. And you’re ON A BREAKDOWN video so clearly you watch breakdowns you’re literally just creating your own narrative atp
@double-anj225 What? I said Lorna, not Alice. Ryan said that he thinks Agatha killed Lorna on the road. But Alice said that Lorna died of a fire in a hotel, probably from the curse. Do you know the difference between Alice and Lorna? One was a rocking milf and the other way killed by Agatha.
This show is officially better than LOKI , Jac Shaeffer is a mastermind
I love how the ballad meant different things to agatha in different stages of her life. I also love how she was taken with billy so much for not just being the son of a powerful witch who could create a hex of his own, but because he materialized something that she dreamed of with her own son
9:54 -- it also is an in-narrative nod to when Teen, in the original interrogation, asked Agatha why she was staring at the painting (which she originally perceived as a 2-way mirror in the police interrogation room which was actually her living room); it's a nod to how later on we discover that the beach scene/house was based off the painting in Billy's room.
You made a mistake here, Ryan. While the mystique of the Witches' Road was never real, the Woo curse was. So, Agatha Harkness never killed Lorna Woo, her family curse did.
Another hint was when Billy says "we're back to square one," theen they come upon their shoes they left at the start.
That Nrs.Hart/Mrs.Davis joke never gets old!
One thing to note: in the fake Crime Drama opening credits, the lyrics sung was the original lyrics "Down, down the winding road", another indication of her subconscious trying to come out about her memory of her time with Nicholas.
This show gets better and better every passing day
In episode 3, the actual reason Agatha saw that fantasy because Billy can read all the minds and see the deepest traumas (like her mother) but Aghata's.
Dont forget in episode 4, when Billy says, in response to Sharon's death, "People cant be replaced!"
And Agatha responds, "Cant they?" She's referencing both how Billy came back from the dead, but also how she has effectively "replaced" her son with him. Billy's faith in the ballad is what convinces witches to join them, just like Nicky's singing did in the past.
Hah, mom did tv shows, he did films. Super cute detail.
I like the storytelling style of this and wandavision... a big arc that you get excited to rewatch to catch the details that seemed tiny, if noticed. That's why I liked dr.who #9 & #10.
This also gives me hope for the Marvel brand for film/TV.
“Agatha killed her mom right?” …No, it’s plainly stated by Alice that her mother died in a hotel fire while on tour with her band. Agatha would feel no need to create a fire to cover up her kill and the fire ties in with Alice’s family curse. I’m kinda confused how you missed this but I have seen various other people posting the same theory online so I guess a lot of people did.
“Agatha tries to lay down rules for the road but Billy corrects her” Um, no he doesn’t. She tells them not to go off road and he quotes back a line from the ballad which translates to the exact thing she just said meaning he’s essentially saying “Oh just like the ballad tells us.” not disagreeing with a word she said.
One of my favorite “I missed it the first time” moments is when Billy says the thing he wants from the road is power, Agatha switches from leaned-in and vested to dismissing him. We wanted her to be a good guy anti-hero so we took her dissuading him and dismissing him, saying “it’s too dangerous” at face value. In reality, she just couldn’t be bothered with him anymore, believing that he didn’t have any power for her to steal.
Rio being Death was Super Obvious the whole time to me but when it was revealed Billy created The Witches Road I was floored. More floored that I didn't see it coming
I scrolled through the comments and I don’t see this mentioned but, earlier in the season I kept asking on Reddit if it was odd that the leaves on the ground when they first enter the road was blue. Because all the other leaves were the color of the power of the witch whose trial was coming up. And all the witches wore their magic color. But the first set of leaves weren’t pink. I guess we rationalized that it was blue for water phase, but in hindsight it’s because Billy never knew the color of Jen’s powers. Or he didn’t have how the road works figured out just yet.
Super proud of myself for picking up on ALL of theses EXCEPT Agatha watching over Billy cuz that’s how nick was taken 😢😢😢
The Houdini poster could’ve also influenced the water trap in the first trial 👀
So does this also mean Lilia knew the road was created by Bill too (at least by the time she was reading for him). The way she said “fitting” definitely seemed like she knew.
I think she started to speculate it could be, but the sigil kept her from really discussing it internally or externally. More like an instinctual understanding
12:29 Billy is a friend of Dorothy confirmed!
Multiple times when Lilia is confronted with the concept of death, like after Sharon passes, her comments reflect a greater disdain for death than the rest of the gang... alluding to her flashback episode that reveals she's been consumed with the thought/ foresight of her own death for a while.
In Nicholas' room in the first episode he won an award for best song
How come when Billy says I wish we were home, they don’t magically arrive home.
Alice immediately says they can't do that. If you notice, all the witches do put "facts" about the road in Billy's mind knowingly or unknowingly and he executes them into the road hex reality
17:52 hey look, Vision and Wanda on the left poster.
This show was hella fun.
Has anybody noticed the first line of the Ballad is the same melody of “Ding dong the witch is dead”? Which is interesting considering she hums it in the first episode
I noticed Billy started every trial, but not that William Fuld on the Ouija box might mean Billy Maximoff, or Billy Fooled (everyone)
No that's the actual guy.
Are there any clues we missed?
How about... EVERY CLUE That RIO is DEATH?
When Billy said ( because the green witch is MIA) we are back at square one …. They are suddenly back to the location of their shoes
How about when Teen (Billy) was the only one who was attacked with shards of glass by the curse instead of fire? It was probably because the curse knew Billy was the one who created that reality. Maybe it knew to kill Billy so that it can escape or knew if that reality continued that the curse would be destroyed.
How about an anti-clue? I.e., a hint that the Road owed some of its existence to forces outside of Billy. In particular, every witch got what they were looking for, even though Billy wasn’t necessarily clear on what that was. Billy didn’t know, but the Road did. In particular, Alice got rid of the curse, Lorna got acceptance of her life and her death, Rio got the death of Agatha, and Kale found the witch who bound her.
I think that was due to the coven singing the song. Some form of the Road was already ready and waiting until Billy pushed it all the way into existence. So many witches sang that song over so many years that it gained power and was no longer entirely a con.
Its crazy that after watching the finale that the clues were staring at us at this time. Especially seeing how Agatha at times looks at us like this is not real.
Agatha didnt kill Alices mom, she died to the generational curse in a fire. In fact in a roundabout way, she invented the witches road song that Lorna Wu made into a protection spell for her daughter
The design on his chair in his room looks also like the different phases of the moon.
Also Jac said in an interview that the imagery in the credits is all from Billy’s witch research!
7:48 Lorna died in a hotel fire, not murdered by Agatha. Alice tells this story in the show!!
My head hurts at all the stuff that's obvious in hindsight¬ thanks for the summary.
Something I haven’t seen anyone mention is that the theme song of Agnes of Westview is Nicky’s version (down the windy road) 😭
I picked up on the hints but thought it was that agatha was bluffing about having been on the road before, an ego play about her greatness.
Your Segway game from content to advertisements is second-to-none.
I don't know why but I really love this show and the Billy character that I want make fanfic story with him being doctor strange apprentice.
I've written about that before as well, they take on Doom and Billy ended up creating a sentient bubble universe to seal Doom in cuz they couldn't defeat him outright lol
@nailinthefashion that nice
@@johncarter2069 you should read Strange Academy and Strikeforce if you want more magic and young adult themes!
Agatha didn't kill Lorna Wu...
When Ryan mentions anxiety/addiction I just wait for the fum or better help ads to drop and I’m right 100% of the time
After rewatching, the scene where the coven is asking the Ouija board "who's with us?" or "who are we speaking to?" (I can't remember the exact phrasing) but the board responds with "Death" and Rio cackles .. that was the biggest clue for me, that she was definitely Lady Death. This show was sooooooooo good omg!!!!
17:39 this is why, and I’m going to say it again for the 100th time, I believe she was Sharon Davis the whole time she came out of her “grave” in the road and it didn’t show her taking her and that could be why she was so close already in episode 1/2 and maybe was Mrs Hart the whole time🤷🏻♂️ and just didn’t show her hand because nobody dies in WandaVision and because she was watching the events unfold since Agatha was in power tech the whole time
14:26 How would Billy know the name Nicholas Scratch?
He was in Agatha's house in Westview.
@@margevonmunchingindahausen That didn't have the name, except in Agatha's illusion.
I’m not hearing anyone mention that when the door to the witch’s road shows up it is in the shape of a hexagon. That was the first clue for me that it was a hex. In wandavision the whole town was covered in hexagon.
I love the channel and love your presentation but a few of these were a stretch lol
Thanx for the videos ♥️
7:46 Oh, dang! Probably. Agatha probably wanted royalties for the song she and Nicholas wrote.
Congrats on predicting one of the Treehouse of Horror segments with your Denim t-shirt.
Nobody talks about the reference to the TV show the Travelers. Who were only able to travel to the body of some one who just recently died. But in precise timing so it looks like they didnt .