REPLICATING the B-58 Hustler's INSANELY COMPLEX Retract System

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  • @alanshearing7515
    @alanshearing7515 Рік тому +14

    Obviously not your first landing gear party . Attention to detail and precision is a testament to your great building skills . Thanks for letting us watch you at work Chris. Great video.

  • @terrencejackson4587
    @terrencejackson4587 Рік тому +9

    Landing gear always makes or breaks a scale model. Top notch effort. Strong work!

  • @bradalgra8088
    @bradalgra8088 Рік тому +10

    Those retracts are ridiculous Chris! Beautiful work on the doors as well.

  • @fepatton
    @fepatton Рік тому +3

    This is a fantastic bit of engineering and also solves a life-long mystery for me. I’ve always loved airplanes, and even as a little kid I was fascinated by retractable landing gear. A model airplane was not as interesting to me without it. But I had a book with pictures of the B-58 and for the life of me I could not figure out how that long gear got into such short doors. _Every_ time I would see those pictures it would puzzle me, especially the nose gear! After 50+ years of wondering, I can now have some peace. 😅 Subscribing to see further progress. It already looks amazing!

  • @notoo7
    @notoo7 Рік тому +7

    The landing gears and doors are a work of art.

  • @craigbeaven8445
    @craigbeaven8445 Рік тому +1

    Chris ,,Man all I can say is WOW !! Grate job Bro !!!

  • @NICHOLASRGLORIOSO
    @NICHOLASRGLORIOSO Рік тому +1

    CHRIS, YOU ARE DA MAN!!! 😮😮❤❤❤❤❤

  • @coolbreazmike
    @coolbreazmike Рік тому +1

    You are loved!

  • @hobbiestgarage1209
    @hobbiestgarage1209 Рік тому +1

    Amazing engineering on the retracts

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому

      RCCrafters does incredible work!

  • @eoinj3929
    @eoinj3929 Рік тому +2

    So complex! Well done

  • @jetjacko
    @jetjacko Рік тому +2

    Fantastic result 👏👏👏

  • @johnw5734
    @johnw5734 Рік тому +2

    I was holding my breath watching the nose gear close. Wow, very satisfying.👍

  • @joelewandowski8232
    @joelewandowski8232 Рік тому +1

    The retract doors are brilliant.

  • @kevincox9960
    @kevincox9960 Рік тому +1

    Awesome work Chris!

  • @jcb6713
    @jcb6713 Рік тому +1

    now that's slick ! nice... 😎

  • @mikeanddeepetrillo5602
    @mikeanddeepetrillo5602 Рік тому +1

    Amazing great job i wish I had that much patients!!!

  • @spikekavalench
    @spikekavalench Рік тому

    How.... ?!?! Amazing design, engineering, 3D printing and assembly. Brilliant!

  • @victorrcjets7660
    @victorrcjets7660 Рік тому +2

    Nice work Chris 😊 but get it done 👊

  • @anthonyblair1465
    @anthonyblair1465 Рік тому +1

    Brilliant work..👍

  • @lw216316
    @lw216316 Рік тому +1

    Excellent work Chris ! Necessity is the mother of invention.

  • @IceMan2035
    @IceMan2035 Рік тому +2

    Chris dude that's so cool. Y'all are doing a great job❤

  • @Dragonewiz
    @Dragonewiz Рік тому +1

    AWESOME...!!!😎😎👍👍🙏🙏

  • @1poorvw
    @1poorvw Рік тому

    You clever son of a B! That hinge idea on the main doors is incredible! Definitely going to borrow that idea down the road.

  • @nuchbutter
    @nuchbutter Рік тому +1

    You're inspiring!

  • @JustPlaneChris
    @JustPlaneChris Рік тому +2

    Holy moly, Chris! And here I was thinking the landing gear on the SLUF was complex.... Well done!

  • @payitfwdrcl6171
    @payitfwdrcl6171 Рік тому +2

    Chris. Sure has been a pleasure watching you create such a masterpiece. Getting more exciting by the minute. 👊👋😊

  • @yf222000
    @yf222000 Рік тому

    Wow! Impressive how the main gears actuates. 👍👍👍

  • @littsrc1726
    @littsrc1726 Рік тому +1

    Wow that came out great very nice 👍👍

  • @Airsally
    @Airsally Рік тому

    Oh yeah I see a lot of JHH and your Dad's trickery mixed with you high tech skills and equipment. Well done Chris. I love that you design a way to maintain your jet. Takes extra thought and time ti figure that stuff out so your not boxed into a corner. Miss flying with you out west.

  • @imbok
    @imbok Рік тому +1

    Clean and reliable. I like it! This is going to be an impressive airplane.

  • @paulbageman3988
    @paulbageman3988 Рік тому

    Looks awesome! Landing gear is off the chain. The judges are gonna love it!

  • @PatBALEX
    @PatBALEX Рік тому +2

    Great work Chris.. I learn a lot from watching you.. You remind me of a R/C builder called B1 Bob.. He was building a B-1 bomber when he left UA-cam.. I learned from him too.. You give me a lot of good work tips.. Thanks Chris.. Waiting to see more...

    • @jared6072
      @jared6072 Рік тому

      Builder Bob flies at my field out here in the midwest and i get to see some of his creations in person. The guy is a building genious. I, unfortunatly, never got to see that b1. Only been seeing him flying giant scale gasser warbirds the last two years.

  • @chrisdavis3642
    @chrisdavis3642 Рік тому +1

    It takes a lot to impress me.. however I am now convinced that we're related!! I've been using spider wire and springs for similar applications ! Thank you for sharing the journey of the build!! Outstanding!!

  • @Sabotage_Labs
    @Sabotage_Labs Рік тому

    Well done, Chris. I suspect even Ramy RC would be impressed lol. Now...I wanna see this puppy fly!

  • @flyboywbl
    @flyboywbl Рік тому +1

    This was so much fun to watch. Nice work. I’m sure that took a long time

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! It took quite a while, yes, haha! Took multiple iterations to get everything right on both the nose and mains.

    • @flyboywbl
      @flyboywbl Рік тому

      @@Thercgeek You have more patience than me. Nothing makes me madder than when the gear doors cause the gear to amp out and get stuck. I usually end up just taking them off

  • @dustcommander100
    @dustcommander100 Рік тому

    Amazing gear and door setup!

  • @envitech02
    @envitech02 Рік тому

    Beautiful work of art!!! Engineering beauty in action.

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому

      Thank you very much!

    • @envitech02
      @envitech02 Рік тому

      @@Thercgeek You're welcome sir. These sort of complicated convoluted designs is art in engineering itself and testimony to the genius of aircraft designers in solving problems. Other complex landing gears include for the Lockheed C5 Galaxy (where the landing gear twists 90 degrees) and the MiG-23 Flogger. The wing fold mechanisms of the WWII Grumman "cat" series are also good examples. With best regards from Malaysia!

  • @davidmuse7004
    @davidmuse7004 Рік тому

    Excellent work on the entire gear assembly! This is one of my most favorite aircraft!

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому

      Thank you! I love the hustler as well. Such an iconic and wicked looking aircraft. 😊

    • @davidmuse7004
      @davidmuse7004 Рік тому

      I was wondering. Will you produce this model for the consumer market?

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому

      I’m not sure if we’ll be able to get it available as a wide release truthfully. My friend has been doing a small limited run of kits, but It’s quite labor intensive to make.

  • @bernardowens1648
    @bernardowens1648 Рік тому

    Simply amazing!!!

  • @s9523pink
    @s9523pink Рік тому

    Wow, unreal, just freakin amazing!

  • @verdw6587
    @verdw6587 Рік тому

    Well impressive Chris, great model engineering 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @rhuffines13
    @rhuffines13 Рік тому +1

    nice work Chris !!

  • @Flakbait100
    @Flakbait100 Рік тому

    Very nice clean work. Looks amazing.

  • @tsniii3452
    @tsniii3452 Рік тому

    That is incredible work

  • @donaldvantongeren8385
    @donaldvantongeren8385 Рік тому

    That’s super duper cool!!! Can’t wait for the next video 😊

  • @JeffsCustomRC
    @JeffsCustomRC Рік тому

    Awesome work and craftsmanship as always CHRIS!!! Can’t wait to see this jet finished, thanks for sharing 👊🏼👊🏼

  • @markpritchard4447
    @markpritchard4447 Рік тому

    When I did my PPL and subsequent flying at Meacham Field, Fort Worth in 1988/89, there was a B58 parked at the Best Western....what a "Beast". Looking forward to the flight report

  • @4291juneau
    @4291juneau Рік тому +1

    Cool

  • @aftertheendtimes
    @aftertheendtimes 7 місяців тому

    Awesome landing gear build

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  7 місяців тому

      Thank you! Cheers!

  • @simonpells7405
    @simonpells7405 Рік тому

    Wow!!...Those landing gear are so complex..,well done Chris.
    Can’t wait to see this iconic bird fly again👌

  • @terryperrott8567
    @terryperrott8567 Рік тому

    Very clean well done job

  • @janne-pekkahuuhtanen4691
    @janne-pekkahuuhtanen4691 Рік тому

    Tell me Chris; are YOU from this Planet? Time after time YOU AMAZE all the rest of us.
    Greetings from Finland!

  • @dernawey
    @dernawey Рік тому

    great job , bravo

  • @reckemroysrc3764
    @reckemroysrc3764 Рік тому +1

    Beautiful work on the landing gear. This jet gets more amazing everytime I see it. Great 👍🏻 job geek 🤓

  • @rcf4phantomflyer
    @rcf4phantomflyer Рік тому

    Great video man great work can’t wait to see her fly for the first time soon. The fact that you’re doing a B 58 hustler it’s awesome. I think one of my favorite things about that plane was how the gears would retract into the airplane on takeoff and landing, I will definitely or personally if I get time off to come see her fly for the first time I will try my best. Keep up the good work awesome to see you’re coming along smoothly.

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому

      Thanks man! Not sure where the maiden will be just yet. I’m scoping out sites with a bit more space for when that time comes.

  • @mtacoustic1
    @mtacoustic1 Рік тому

    Suggest using torsion bar springs instead of coil springs. They take up a lot less room and can also serve as a piano style hinge pin. I've used them with much success on a couple of my projects with retracts. Great attention to detail on your B-58 project and hope to see it fly soon!

  • @chrisambrose8838
    @chrisambrose8838 Рік тому

    Very impressive! A work of art! 👍🙋‍♂️🖖🏻

  • @Bart83
    @Bart83 Рік тому

    Nice work Chris !

  • @N-Scale
    @N-Scale Рік тому +4

    Man , You do not need to fly it , just show folks the gear !!!!! Will it have an ejection Pod ? LOL

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому

      Yep, i have the pod waiting it’s turn to be mounted.

  • @jared6072
    @jared6072 Рік тому

    This is amazing! I hope i can get to this level of build quality and patients for that matter😅. Looking forward to your next vid in these master builders classes.

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! The next vid in the series should post this Friday! 😊

  • @robertcawley6841
    @robertcawley6841 Рік тому

    Freakin' awesome. After seeing the real B-58 in a museum, I've been wondering how the retracts worked on the plane. This is great, thank you for sharing.

  • @mithrandir1313
    @mithrandir1313 Рік тому

    A W E S O M E ! beautiful!

  • @UKMike2009
    @UKMike2009 Рік тому

    Good job!

  • @danielscott5004
    @danielscott5004 Рік тому +1

    What material is that for the plane?

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому +1

      The model is all hollow molded composite.

  • @wayneschenk5512
    @wayneschenk5512 Рік тому

    Amazing.

  • @ThreenaddiesRexMegistus
    @ThreenaddiesRexMegistus Рік тому

    The Delta Dart is a fascinating plane and you’ve done an impressive job on it!👍🏻

    • @memcrew1
      @memcrew1 Рік тому

      Delta dart? Where?

  • @cobrat7712
    @cobrat7712 Рік тому

    Chris you got me thinking about the Hustler. It really is just the f16 cranking in a larger version. Also general dynamics must like complicated landing gear....lol. keep up the nice work

  • @eskayler66
    @eskayler66 Рік тому

    Nice!

  • @SiliconRiot
    @SiliconRiot Рік тому +1

    Any chance some day you could do a video on building scale retracts from scratch...? I have my ideas but would love to see how a seasoned pro would approach it.

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому +1

      Honestly, landing gear I will typically collaborate with RCCrafters on. I don’t have matching capability and he does incredible work!

    • @SiliconRiot
      @SiliconRiot Рік тому

      @@Thercgeek Ok Thanks..!

  • @Plydrms
    @Plydrms Рік тому

    simply amazing, really enjoying it. Whats the white adhesive that you spread on with the putty knife?

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому

      Thank you! The adhesive is epoxy with white micro balloons to lighten and volumize it.

  • @nuchbutter
    @nuchbutter Рік тому +1

    Did you use microballoons in that white epoxy?

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому

      Yes, the white is the micro balloons.

  • @bebababababababababa
    @bebababababababababa Рік тому

    Incredible work 👍 Any plans for paint scheme?

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому

      Thank you! I’m planning to paint it up in the prototype scheme tail number 5660.

  • @KillerKev1961
    @KillerKev1961 Рік тому

    holy!!!!!! wow!

  • @jprules2578
    @jprules2578 Рік тому

    "Hey watchya doing?"
    Ahhh, just sawing these doors in half.
    "Using a jig, or a brace?"
    Nah, just sawing on top of the plane.😅
    😬
    Looking forward to the big finish reveal, and first flights. Love the Hustler.

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому +1

      Hey, whatever works 🤣

  • @echohunter4199
    @echohunter4199 Рік тому

    What amazes me is how quickly we as a people progressed from the Wright brothers flier that was basically a motorized kite, to building aircraft like the B-58 within 60 years!

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому +1

      It really is remarkable to think about!

  • @daleyoung87
    @daleyoung87 Рік тому

    Super cool! You never cease to amaze!

  • @kimmy6779
    @kimmy6779 Рік тому

    Hi, awesome project! Would you tell me what is the white glue you used to mount the steering servo box? Also what is the spray I see you putting on the CA glue? Thanks!!!

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому

      Thanks! The white adhesive is just epoxy with micro balloons to lighten and volumize it. The spray on the ca is simply ca accelerator.

  • @icantfly
    @icantfly Рік тому

    If you have too much slack in the pull/pull. Use the zip tie trick.. 1 zip tie and some shrink tubing

  • @truthboomertruthbomber5125
    @truthboomertruthbomber5125 Рік тому

    I hope your CG calculation works out right. I once built a scratch built speed 400 delta and despite reading everything I could find about CG on delta wings for the first flight the CG was 2 or 3 inches rearward and the plane was unflyable . Hand launch of course so the result was a back flip to the ground. I redid the fuselage so I could move the batt forward and made a new styrofoam nose and managed to fly the plane on the second attempt. It was a blast to fly and with its solid balsa wing and 1/4 x1/2” hard balsa keel running the full length of the underside of the wing it was indestructible except for the styrofoam nose and sheet balsa foward fuselage. I had it set up with dual rates. High rate for the launch and then once the plane was up to speed low rates with lots of expo. The first 50’ after the toss were hairy leading to me naming the plane the Hairy Delta. Remember, when you start cranking and banking deltas bleed off speed quickly!

    • @truthboomertruthbomber5125
      @truthboomertruthbomber5125 Рік тому

      A cool maneuver I used to do I called the elevator. I would pull back the power and as the plane slowed I would keep adding up elevator. The plane would develop a dramatic sink rate while remaining flat and controllable. Add power and / or drop the nose and the recovery to normal flight was instantaneous. Just don’t get too low when first trying this !

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому

      Yeah, deltas can be a lot of fun. With the vortex enhanced lift you get, they can fly incredibly slow and remain stable throughout. 😊 don’t think I’ll be doing much of that with this bird, but the nose high landing should be pretty awesome!

  • @truthboomertruthbomber5125
    @truthboomertruthbomber5125 Рік тому

    In the later 90s one of my RC buds was ex-air force and was a 3rd seater in B58s and later EWO in other types

  • @dannydegoede2669
    @dannydegoede2669 Рік тому

    Nice work i am just wondering is de angel of the rear wheels correct

  • @shelbyseelbach9568
    @shelbyseelbach9568 Рік тому

    What keeps the wire in the hinge in the main doors? Just curious as it seems like it wouldn't take much for it to slip forward far enough to come out of the small rear piece attached to the fuselage?

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому +1

      There’s a decent amount of friction there, so the wire won’t slip out at all. It would require quite a bit of suction for it to pull forward. That being said, I may still use a small piece of aluminum tape at the front just to be sure.

    • @shelbyseelbach9568
      @shelbyseelbach9568 Рік тому

      @@Thercgeek I was just thinking of vibration and movement. I have no doubt in your abilities, was just wondering as you simply slid it out repeatedly. Thanks for the reply, as always.

  • @vintagecornet
    @vintagecornet Рік тому

    Chris, what is the white adhesive (applied with small spatula) that you use throughout this video?

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому +1

      That is epoxy with micro balloons. The micro balloons is what turns it white and helps lighten and volumize the epoxy.

  • @lavirider
    @lavirider Рік тому

    Amazing job !!!!
    Very very talented!! Too bad it didn’t survive though ..

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому

      Yeah, that was a very tough lesson. But, that will ensure success of the next one. 😊

  • @michiganengineer8621
    @michiganengineer8621 Рік тому

    The Hustler has always been one of my favorite early jet warbirds and is one I'd love to see as a larger scale turbine RC plane, I'm imagining it with 4x Swiwin-300P's for power LMAO. The landing gear is freaking insane although it's probably less complex than the gear on a BUFF

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому +1

      I happen to know of a big multi turning hustler that’s in the works currently. It’s going to be massive in size.

  • @danielrusbridge4182
    @danielrusbridge4182 Рік тому

    How did you make? or where did you get the drag chute?? Ps cant wait to see and hear 👂 it fly!!

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому +1

      There’s a link in the description, but The drag chute came from rcjetchutes.com

  • @stevemartin9498
    @stevemartin9498 Рік тому

    I loved the video! I’m curious, you built a wooden tray for the nose gear steering servo instead of 3D printing one, is there a reason you went with the wood? Also can you still access to remove that servo if needed? Masterful work, cheers!
    Also, it’ll be nice to see you win the scale NATS. 😉

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! I made the wood tray for the steering mostly because it was quicker. Plus, the steering takes more load than the doors, so the wood will hold up better over time in that case.

  • @stephennewman4693
    @stephennewman4693 Рік тому

    Great build. A question once completed what is the plane worth in $$

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому

      I haven’t fully calculated it, but it’ll probably be about $8k worth of stuff in there including the airframe and retracts.

  • @adamjoseph4238
    @adamjoseph4238 Рік тому

    Any thoughts on how this will fair at AMA Site 4, which is grass?

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому

      I have some concerns as the tires on this are quite small. I will have to make the call as to whether it’ll go or not there at the site. I plan to bring another airplane with me to fly in the event it doesn’t look like it’ll work.

    • @adamjoseph4238
      @adamjoseph4238 Рік тому

      @@Thercgeek They're redoing the runway so maybe it'll be nicely manicured! Hope to see the model there, only if I get off my rear and finish my Fun Scale entry.

  • @Sep141
    @Sep141 Рік тому

    hey RC Geek, thanks for the video! Quick Question, do you think you'd ever work on an F-111 Aardvark? It's one of those models you dont see around much, and with how the Hustler is looking I think you might be qualified! Keep up the good work!

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching! I do like the F-111, it’s a good looking bird and would be a really cool subject.

  • @TH75767
    @TH75767 Рік тому

    The B58 is the most beautiful airplane in the world. This is Awesome. Have you done some gear cycles with the aircraft "right side up" since it was all assembled on its back? ..and with perhaps a leaf blower on the assemblies for some simulated airflow.? Its a pretty complex system... the strings fluttering in the airlfow.

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому

      I have exercised the gear upright and all good. I may put a leaf blower to it at some point, but haven’t this far to test the gear with.

  • @flashted
    @flashted Рік тому

    Nice job. Is it a kit? Is it a one-off 3D print? One of the most iconic aircraft ever built. It's been on my bucket list of builds for quite some time. Instead, I've settled on the XB-51 Panther.
    A word of advice, make sure you keep the speed going into turns with that thing. Those honkin nacelles and a delta wing, will drag it straight to a smokin hole if you do not. Liked and subbed...
    PS did you droop the leading-edge down like the real aircraft? Convair did this on the Delta Dagger and the Delta Dart

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому

      Thanks! The airframe was tooled up by a good friend of mine so was fortunate enough to get one from him. The wing does indeed feature the conical camber along the leading edge.

  • @slipstream5542
    @slipstream5542 Рік тому

    Awesome Build, the next one ...enlarge it for 4 14 to 18 Lbt turbines 😎 JOB well done looks great

  • @spinnetti
    @spinnetti Рік тому +1

    Aww. I thought you were gonna fab the landing gear from scratch.

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому

      Honestly, that’s something I usually will contract out to Ed from RCCrafters. I don’t have machining capability and he does incredible work!

  • @chrisschaefer3863
    @chrisschaefer3863 Рік тому

    XB-70 incoming!

  • @gabrielsturdevant9700
    @gabrielsturdevant9700 Рік тому

    are you going to wrap the whole thing in aluminum tape or paint it up

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому +1

      I was originally going to wrap it in foil tape, but due to the timing, I’ll be painting it with Alclad paint instead. I’ve used it on a few projects and it’s quite good at mimicking a metal finish and is pretty robust too.

    • @gabrielsturdevant9700
      @gabrielsturdevant9700 Рік тому

      @@Thercgeek that is a wonderful paint, do let us know your opinion on it

  • @Panzerbaer100
    @Panzerbaer100 Рік тому

    who is the manufacturer of this kit?

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому

      This is a very limited edition jet hangar hobbies kit. It was tooled by my good friend Dorian Anderson who worked for my dad for a long time and has been distributed in very small numbers through my folks at JHH.

  • @airhammer6203
    @airhammer6203 Рік тому

    I bet your brain cracked a few bags of nuts to get this project underway. Is your mother's name Necessity or Invention?? ;-) kidding.
    Great hands Chris, excellent craftsmanship. The doors staying up close and tight is spot on.
    AirHammer out!!

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому

      Thanks man! Getting this all figured out kicked my butt a few times, haha!

  • @David-mz3or
    @David-mz3or Рік тому

    Triple Awesome👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️✅✅✅✅✅

  • @Animal1290
    @Animal1290 Рік тому +1

    That's great work ! The only thing that bothers me with those electric retracts is the noise they make... I know that once in flight you don't ear that noise but it still bothers me 😂... Air retracts are unfortunately unreliable...

    • @Thercgeek
      @Thercgeek  Рік тому +1

      Haha, I hear you on the sound. My experience has been that Air are just as good if not better than electric. Most of my large scale stuff I opt for air, but these were designed electric from the start.

    • @Airsally
      @Airsally Рік тому +1

      I agree, air works well. The low dollar electric gear are a crap shoot if they work or not. The most expensive gear are a bit more reliable.