Why the FGC is freaking out over Illaoi
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- Опубліковано 22 кві 2024
- We're here with some exciting new footage of 2xko (or you may know it as Project L.) It's the Illaoi overview trailer!
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Considering her kit in League, this is by far the most impressive transition to a fighting game they have done so far.
This feels like Illaoi is much more in her element in terms of how she is in the lore versus how she is in League. I'm hoping this is a good indicator that characters that don't get to shine as much gameplay wise in League will get that opportunity in 2X. I'd actually love to see Nilah in this game, I think her whipsword could translate quite well into a 2D fighting game.
@@CiviGG Nilah has alot of awesome 2d fighting game ascpets that could transition so well. totally agree.
"FOLKS" jumpscare gives me life
I read this before the vid started and it still got me after the ad lmao
The Lv3 super is basically her ripping out your soul, and sending it to her god for judgement. She's one of the rawest priest characters I've seen in a game.
She has the same move in League, except you get to beat the fuck out of the soul after pulling it out lol
Still waiting for Sett hoping he makes it into the core roster.
Sett was basically made for FGC!
@@shakeemsymonds7362 it's kinda too easy
I don't think he'll make it into core, but he'll definitely show up. He's THE BOSS after all.
Same bro, I’m a sett main and if he isn’t in the game by default I’m going to be pissed
@@shakeemsymonds7362 sett, as well as samira. both of them feel like shoe-ins for a fighting game. i will riot if samira isnt in
The red aura means she's charging her heavy attack
Why the FGC is freaking out over Illaoi: "Death by Snu Snu."
Meh. She's kinda flat for how big she is.
And Tentacle Grape.
She's also Z Broly. Everyone loves a good Grapple-Zoner.
oh my reddit
Hitstop sometimes looks weird until you play and feel it. Then it feels right.
For me it allows a little extra time for inputs and thinking, even if it's miniscule.
@@Blarchar It's very much a mental thing, for sure. It also makes things feel better. It's why Monster Hunter feels so good and God Eater and other things aren't quite there. It just feels right when it's perfect.
“Kraken Priestess” that’s a awesome title
People complained about the hitstop thing when the trailers for SamSho came out, and the hitstop there was enormous compared to this. After a while the complaints went away. Everything stopping when you hit a heavy slash is still one of the best feelings in any fighting game
Samurai Shodown has like 6 people playing it on steam, so perhaps direct comparisons there aren't so wise haha
@@CMCAdvancedwhy what's gonna happen
@@CMCAdvanced Why would the quantity of people playing the game that was released 5 years ago have anything to do with what I said?
That is a bit of a false equivalency. While true the hit stop in Sam Sho was enormous, it didn't screw with the pacing of the game at all. In fact, it enhanced it because it made the hits feel that much more impactful.
This game on the other hand, being a hyper tag team game, and the hit stop being as large as it is, does seem like it could cause issues with the much faster pace.
@@barkon34 Yea maybe you're right. I don't see the problem from this footage but I don't play these kind of games so maybe I'm missing something. Guess we'll see when the game comes out
12:51 Im a little wonky on the lore. You are not going 'inside' though. The gist of it is that it is a kind of trial by that 'god' nagakeborous. Thats what her lore is pretty much all about. The soul of the character is seperated from the body, and then its potential is being tested.
And the outcome of that 'bite' is just pretty much always you not 'passing'. In actuality this would be outside the hands of Illaoi. She can only put you in front of this trial.
edit: to the hitstopt thing: Years ago I pretty much only played Soul Caliburs, Tekken 3, old MK's and smash as my fighters. Which meant i wasnt used to hitstop whatsoever. To the point where i was annoyed even looking at it. And i refused wanting to play those games for that reason.
Then SF4 came out and i played it. It took.. maybe a week until i did not notice this at all anymore, be it while playing or watching.
So i assume people saying this are coming from a similar background as i did back then, or even just LoL. If you arent used to it, its really weird.
The simplest way I can think of to explain it is that the tentacles are a "win more" mechanic. She's not a puppet character, you want to be in their face hitting them and if you do it right you get tentacles that help you win more.
So I know a bit of league lore myself but not to much and basically the test of spirit isnt putting you inside the idle if im correct instead but its taking your soul directly to Nagakabouros for a trial to see if your soul is worthy or not. Basically strips the subject’s spirit from their body then forces them to stand against Nagakabouros to prove their worth to prove their annihilating them if they fail.
Buff Moana is cracking some heads
Moana is sick of saying "You're Welcome" and has switched to saying "Beg the gods for mercy, for I have none"
A fighting game where you can jump in and play characters you’ve loved for over a fucking decade is crazy.
RIP marvel vs capcom 😭
@@jmcrofts I mean… franchise been dead for a decade so you’re not wrong
guilty gear when
League OTPs are gonna have fun relearning their favourite champions
kettlebell as a weapon is really cool
The hitstop doesn't seem egregious to me, but I'm a Strive player, so that probably doesn't mean too much. I'm used to getting a counterhit and waiting about a minute until the next frame comes out.
Also, I love to see elements and characters in the background reacting to the fight! It's always so weird to me when people in a fighting game stage are just carrying on with their lives with literally earth-shattering moves landing just to their left
Definitely the most interesting character revealed so far. I'm hoping for a monster character or two, and a traditional grappler archtype for Illaoi to team up with.
That stage is a gd masterpiece
Im gonna always call it Project L. That name is much better than 2XKO.
hard agree. I've seen others calling by different names: double knockout double ko, fucking stupid etc
I really like heavy hitstop in games. Makes the rhythm more intuitive to me and the hits feel more impactful
Not sure if anyone has talked about it anywhere, but those are yordles in the background. So if anyone was curious what their size will be in this game, there you go.
God illaoi is so fucking hot, and her playstyle looks so fun. I can't WAIT to main her
With both hands, right?
I'm so impressed by this trailer. 10/10!
No coincidence that they release the “tentacle” character for EVO Japan
I haven't touched league in god knows how long, but Illaoi's design still does things to me.
Yup, when she was released i did not know how to feel. She looked ugly to me, but this character grew on me. Despite maining mid and adc, she is one of my favourite characters. Pyke jinx and samira are still missing to fill out my favourite list.
Same. I just love her.
I've always been at odds with her. Conceptually and design wise, I love her to death. She's such a unique concept that I've adored seeing in new game environments like 2X and Ruined King.
But in League? NAH. I've HATED her ever since I started playing purely out of spite thanks to a plethora of one sided fights against her when I was new to the game thanks to playing with a group who had been playing for years. I've come to accept that her kit is the definition of a skill check, but it still pisses me off.
love how degen the league community is, this games scene is gonna be tight
so excited for this game it cant come soon ENOUGH
For an explanation of Illaoi's ult, she is a priestess of Nagakabouros, a god that promotes motion above all else. Her job is to run around and put anybody interesting's soul into her idol, forcing them to endure a test of spirit. Either you succeed and return stronger than ever and with a greater sense of purpose after a resting period, or your will is too weak and your soul becomes food for the God. One of the coolest things in league lore considering it's balanced enough in the story that she can pretty much confront anyone and give them this test of spirit. Here it seems like every character passes the test, but is severely weakened, exactly the way it works in the lore. Except for the fact that, yknow. Illaoi would never attack someone after they passed her test, because her god has deemed them worthy.
for these longer trailers and reveals, it would be cool to have you watch it through, and react, then run it back and do your pauses and breakdown/discussion. feels like it flows better that way imo. but either way, loved the video! ive never even heard of this and it looks like it plays like DBFZ?? im super interested
That "FOLKS" startled me! 😂
By the way, JM. I think the red flash relates to animation cancelling. Perhaps it's a tell for the enemies so they know when you can't cancel an animation and have to be committed to it, so they know it's a tentacle spawning move OR it's a window to cancel the move kind of like Sol's projectile, where you bait people into doimg something.
I can answer what is happening in her ult (it's lore).
Her idol can test the will of people by absconding their soul/spirit and putting it on trial. If her god (Nagakabouros) determines them unworthy, Nagakabouros will kill them. So the figure we see underwater in front of Nagakabouros is their soul, not the champion being teleported or something.
So her ult is an artistic interpretation of the trial.
Worst Names in Gaming History: Xbox Series S/X, Wii U, 2XKO
can't believe xbox 360 is an older model than the xbox 1. while an xbox series S is not the S tier xbox model.
nokia n-gage
For real. Project L would've been a meme, but 2XKO is a terrible, _terrible_ name. 2 knockouts. We get it, but it has no identity.
If you want your game to be memorable and stand with the greats, it has to be recognizable by name alone. What a misstep.
Ouya
Wii U is S tier name.
Hearing bro say glazing always cracks me up
Are you co-streaming Evo Japan?
I'm going to evil Las Vegas. Are you doing a meet n greet?
Also the glass I ordered from you came in undamaged and looks great 👍🏻
So every new fighting game will have a muscle mommy?
god I hope so
I was about to mention SF6, but then remembered Marisa so...
Tekken 8: 👁👄👁
It would be foolish to not add Renata in the game cus her design is slick
I mean its both on trend and completely makes sense given the genre. Its like the opposite of forced in.
@@TheGreektrojanif it happens over and over, following particular trends, then yes, it would be forced in. That's not what decides if it's good though
"tentacle splash zone"
I only played Master Yi in LOL when I did play years ago hope he makes the cut
as far as similar characters in different fighters go, alice from the touhou fighters comes to mind as someone who uses similar concepts for a different end. all her c attacks place dolls in different positions that shoot a barrage of aimed bullets after a delay, but then they just linger there if neither the doll nor alice get hit in that time frame. her 22 specials then allow her to utilize the placed dolls in various ways, from turning them into whirling multihit bladestorms to making them shoot screen-wide beams to using them as the path for a big programmable projectile
she's a _lot_ more meticulous than illaoi looks to be and firmly falls into the zoner category ( in a game where _every character has a rich selection of projectiles_ ), but nonetheless has the same style of setting up traps and big ol' danger zones just by pressing the buttons she wants to press anyway. p. fun to see the concept pop up here as well, considering league has had its fair share of touhou references since pretty early on
I would say the tentacles remind me of Cagliostro’s traps in Granblue VS.
The top UI is so much better. I hope they find something similiar good looking for the super bar. I also hope there is some way to view models + animations not just ingame to make some videos.
Glad they added names.
I don't get the complaint about hitstop. It looks smooth! Might be a misconception of the prolonged flash effects on hit. They last longer than the hitstop itself.
YES BIG HITSTOP. Modern games like SF6 MK1 and T8 look so rubbery. The hitstop makes the action easier to read, plus it fits the animation style perfectly.
Thanks for the recap!
that super was crazy no cap
6 minute trailer before it even started it's a W
Really hope they bring kayn in
Also honestly. As former league player for over a decade I legit never thought this game would come out
the ui changes are literally my favourite part of this update, theyre honestly such an improvement
I wanna to see Katarina. I wonder how long we'll have to wait for her.
She is so cool definitely gives sf6 Marisa vibes with the charge attacks got to be armor well see looks very nice.
I really like the hit-stop. It's similar to cvs2 and it truly helps my weak old brain actually parse what's happening.
wait, instead of push block there's a backdash??? in a tag game that makes the corner sound hellish
FGC complaining about Illoi sounds about right
Having watched a few reactions to this reveal I think it’s you specifically that is freaking out over this character. I don’t think anyone else had even half the energy you did watching this
Probably a stretch, but the length of the lvl 3, and the cut when she finishes it makes me think that was like a dramatic finish.
I’m calling this game KOKO now since it’s KO 2 times.
don't apologize for the pauses! It's why we watch your videos instead of just going to watch the trailer on our own. Those complaining can just watch it separately 🤔
For a reason, she reminds me of Lord Beerus from dragon ball fighterZ. Like an interactive setup character, which is super cool, but the opponent can remove everything if he gets hit.
One thing I don't like about this game is that there's so much particles and effects on screen sometimes idk what's happening
Hey JM, if you’re down to do some dbfz rollback collab content Mister Acolyte told me that he’s open to the idea. I’ve been really hoping for rollback collaborations to breathe life into the game. Love the content and super exited for Project L (I still like that name).
I didn’t even know this game existed.
Omg a game in the league universe that I actually might play hell yeah
I like the hit stops actually
I've quit lol since around decade ago but I'm somewhat interested in their upcoming fighting game. does this game have pantheon, talon, zed, leona or mundo?
None ot those yet.
14 champ at launch but only Darius Ahri Yasuo Ekko and Illaoi revealed
Probably none of these, they aren't popular.
Well, zed is, but if we get a ninja, i think we wil get akali first.
@@alphshift7857 Jinx and Katarina are also confirmed and we've seen some very light alpha game play of them.
@@tonysmith9905 Oh man I'm so glad to hear Jhin is probably making it in. He probably has the coolest design of any League champ imo. I bet people will hate playing against him though since he's definitely going to be a zoner lol
idk if I’ll be able to deal with this much mental stack 😂
Too chuh-koh, great name
She kinda reminds me of jacko but a more aggressive build
Oh I was wrong then
What's happening in her ult is she rips out your soul and sends it to be tested by her god
I wanna see khazix in here as a rushdown character using ultimate to go invis and hide mixup animations
Its a lot more comparable to strive Johnny, where he sets up the cards and gets followups by hitting them. But i honestly feel this is better
Whats going on during the Ultimate:
It's Illaoi's E Ability in LoL. She will use the idol to send a soul tentacle and pull out the SOUL of the target. That's why the enemy is the same color as the tentacle during the animation. It's him, it's his soul.
This Soul will then be "tested" by the God, and if they are not worthy, they die. If they are, the come out stronger. In the lore, strong people sometimes will seek Illoai to be put to this test.
We should just call this double K.O or Double Knockout. It’s the same amount of syllables but it just sounds leaps and bounds better than 2XKO
The name is so bad it can't be fixed (unless they find a new name altogether). It doesn't matter how many syllables it takes to say it, 2XKO or 2KO means nothing and invokes nothing.
None of my favorite cahracters is in the game as of now, so I am not sure how I feel :c
The hitstop makes the game sick and is not bad at all
timer baby
This character alone is selling me the game honestly
The red aura thing that flashes when they make a heavy attack might be an armor breaker indicator
Edit: Using S1 or S2 spawns a tentacle
the matches didnt make it look like shes that good but that could just be due to how technical she is and of course its a fresh game to them
the game does have too much hitstop for me but I think they added it to help people react to pressure.
As if tentacle graping everyone in a MOBA wasn't enough, now here comes the re-tentacling.
I love hitstop, looks like most anime fighters to me.
Minmin?
IDK about the rest of the FGC, but I was freaking out when I first tried her in league. Now it's just consistence lmao
Her E is still so unique in League. I wonder if they tried to make the soul-ripping part of her gimmick in 2XKO for a while before "relegating" it to the Lv3 animation.
My dommy mommy one trick getting REPRESENTED! Love to see it, lol. Also, mad props for getting the name right. You might be asking yourself; Well how can anyone get it wrong when they say it clearly in the videos about her? Yeah...I wonder that too, lol...
I'm waiting fot a tank. Please no supports, I don't want to play grapplers.
*League Of Legends Guest Character*
I love you JM crofts I hope they put you in 2XKO as a playable character so I can be you some day
2XKO is an absolutely horrible name. I honestly think that name will hold the game back and lower its sales figures.
I think Lethal Tempo is a better name!
I would never mention I played a game called 2XKO to anyone, because then I’d have to explain it. EVERY TIME.
Is saying 2x Knockout or 2x Ko really that bad? lol
Start calling it "Double Knockout"
Just revert back to project l honestly
They should have called this game "Runeterra Rumble"
the name being hated gives off horseshoe theory, its so bad that it actually turns good bcs people cant stop mentioning 2xko
I do like how the damage isn't insane. Makes the fights last longer/look more intense. Unlike mortal kombat or tekken 8 matches are over in seconds and I can't see how thats fun, you make one mistake and get combo'd into oblivion, not fun to me.
I hope they add Tristana, Teemo, Kennan or Veigar as a zoning character. Yordles need a strong rep.
Really?Why are people going nuts?
Interface still looks like an old flash game. I doubt its their priority right now but I just hope its not permanent. I hate looking at it
Yeah the game is still 2+ years from release so I would expect a lot of UI changes
Same. I think it's much better in clarity now, but it lost a lot of its already minor personality. I also dislike the font choice and size they went with.
@11:00 mins you said you couldnt think of a character that played like her. I submit exhibit A: Nappa from DBFZ. Put the saibaman down and watch him wreak havoc and steal turns for you lol
ACTUALLY TRUE
At 6:20, she's charging i think. because when looking carefully, you'll see her tattos glowing
im a grappler enthusiast so im excited to see who's gonna be the grapper of all +100 champions lol has
Most people are saying it will be Sett and he seems to fit perfectly.
2XKO, isn't that Elon Musk's kid's name?