Fun fact: the Fleetwood Mac song "Go Your Own Way" was not actually about Lindsey Buckingham's break up with Stevie Nicks, but actually about the Sino-Soviet split.
Not even gonna mention how Mao, knowing Khrushchev couldn't swim, made him meet in Mao's pool room and basically made the Soviet leader doggy paddle and struggle to stay above water
@@scamanmagiccarp1932 Yes, he did it in revenge because he wasn't allowed to see Stalin on one of his birthdays, I think (can't remember which one). From what I read about the meeting, it was basically just Mao swimming in laps while Khrushchev was sitting knee deep in water with a ,,fuck me' face.
Khrushchev wanted to build a monument in China to commemorate Russian generals in the Russo Japanese war. The Russo Japanese war is a war between Russia and Japan in China. Mao was aware of the yellow race. He felt very uncomfortable, so he thought of a way to bully Khrushchev.
3:05 The Sino-Soviet Split absolutely did affect China to a significant degree. Khrushchev pulled all technical advisers out of the country and the complete lack of trade that followed stunted China's development for two decades. Furthermore it's arguable whether the catastrophe of the Great Leap Forward would've even happened if there was no split.
Thank you. In fact, Khrushchev has been paying attention to China and the Soviets have tried to give advice. These things are recorded in Khrushchev's memoirs. This is mainly caused by China's nationality and the whole external environment. There were many student movements in the 1960s and 1970s. Chinese scholar Wen Tiejun believes that this is because China can not solve the employment problem of students, and the world market is not mature, and the employment of workers and farmers is also a problem. Due to the characteristics of Chinese character, this problem has a great impact in China. This problem was finally solved by Deng Xiaoping in the 1990s. Now China is trying to develop Africa, Latin America and Southeast Asia because it is afraid that the world market can not meet China's employment needs. In the Mao era, Mao put forward this strategy. China should unite all poor countries to make progress together, but Mao could not achieve this goal.（谢谢你，事实上赫鲁晓夫一直关注着中国，苏联人也试图给意见，这些事被纪录在赫鲁晓夫回忆录中。这主要是中国的民族性和整个外部环境造成的，在上世界60-70年代，学生运动非常多。中国学者温铁军认为，这是由于中国解决不了学生的就业问题，以及世界市场并不成熟，工人和农民的就业也是个问题。由于中国性格特点，导致这个问题在中国的影响非常巨大。这个问题最终由邓小平在1990年代解决。现在中国努力发展非洲和拉丁美洲以及东南亚，就是害怕世界市场无法满足中国的就业需求。在毛时代，毛就提出了这个战略，中国应该联合所有穷国，一起进步，但是毛无法完成这个目标。）
@@可爱包-c4v Latin American here, instead of developing, it's just colonialism by selling us cheap products while keeping the corrupt politicians in power.
@@sophisticatedthumb5364 XD Try more "cheap cellphones, bridges, busses, constructions" among many more. If you want to make a good "gotcha" argument, at least put some effort beyond a straw man that's irrelevant to the main argument.
“I’m not afraid of nuclear war. There are 2.7 billion people in the world; it doesn’t matter if some are killed. China has a population of 600 million; even if half of them are killed, there are still 300 million people left.” - Mao
I bet ulaanbataar (red hero) the capital of Mongolia, was directed to ussr since Mongolia was a friend of ussr (donated 50000 horses and more) Also Mongolia serves as a buffer in between Russia and China
Tito got rid of the Nazis on his own, so by 1945 there weren't any Red Army units in Yugoslavia and that was key in not being a Soviet puppet. So Yugoslavia was always part of the eastern block just never direct Moscow control, same with Albania
My mother was of partial Russian descent and they allowed my father to carry a weapon but not her but they wanted her to spy on the Russian community in China. When my grandmother heard this she was pissed off. So when they say that these socialist countries didn’t have racism then I can tell you that’s not true.
The split is probably the reason China has survived because unlike most other Communist countries, it didn't need huge amounts of foreign aid from the USSR to function.
Mao proved it was possible to produce negative economic output. He set everyone to making steel with no equipment or training, they produce pig iron instead that had to be resmelted before it could be made into something useful.
@@aver_nestress4570 Catholics are extremely conservative as a religion and protestantism allows more freedom. If we're talking about history then Catholics used to pay to the church for their sins which is absolutely retarded.
I don't think there are many people here in Russia who even know's what is Protestantism. In fact our "orthodox" people don't care about religion at all, most of them openly hates patriarch and church, I even heard that like 30% of people that claimed to be orthodox said that they don't believe in god
China aside from being Albanians closest strategic ally was closer to both Romania and Yugoslavia then to the USSR. This was important detail that was missed. Also China going to war with the US was Stalin's idea which also put distance between the two powers. Stalin event suggested having a unified Soviet controlled fleet in the Pacific based in Dalian, which was unacceptable to Mao. The Soviets also briefly supported the East Turkestan Republic and tried to stop the Chinese Civil War at the Yangtze River creating a North/South China. When Mao saw the Soviets starting to encroach on Chinese sovereity that's when the split started.
China: we're the real communists around here Also China: *proceeds to be the main manufacturer for capitalist countries" Ghost of Marx: wait, that's illegal!
They saw how sticking to the book (i.e centralized controlled economy) and then going to a newer system instantly (perestroika and glasnost) is a killer. PRChina tried to keep on the Maoist track with the Gang of Four but Deng sees the realpolitik need to "reform". This is just the CCP trying to maintain power in a post Cold War world...
"Ideological differences are a matter of life and death for Communists." Lol, this continues to today in online communist discussions. Pretty much every flavor of communism hates every other flavor of communism. If you want a good chance of enraging certain communists, just call Trotsky a hero, lol. That makes Stalinists angry.
@transylvanian ok right, as a Communist myself I do respect you l, but let's see the numbers, ahh yes, Stalin killed 20 Million, Mau almost 70 Million. Their was nothing Communist about Stalin's Iron U.S.S.R or Mau's China. They were both dictators who killed millions, honestly . Marx would be turning in his grave if he saw what Modern "Communists".....I mean Facist Dictators have done.
@@dnhdfnfkrjxjxfjjggj3002 well not anymore, at least in PRC, I see loads of capitalism and neo-liberalism supporters on domestic video platforms and not even being censored, these people sometimes bug me, really
You're right, revisionists have historically helped or accelerated the destruction of socialist projects, rooting them out is a matter of life or death.
Kim Jong-un by “support” you mean they support you, right? Because apart from being a geographic buffer with the West, none of those communist nations need you at all. Some uncharitable folks might even say that you make their diplomatic relations unnecessarily complex
This video didn't go into how the Sino Soviet split affected foreign policy specifically in Africa and the fight against decolonisation. The Mozambican Civil War, the Rhodesian Bush War and Angolan civil War, Vietnam and Cambodia too.
@@glorytotheaprdeathtotheufl7917 Other than selling the CIA some arms it could transfer over to the Islamic fundamentalists, I haven't heard of Chinese involvement.
@@MrAnonymousRandom it sold a lot of arms to the CIA who then transfer it through Pakistan to Afghanistan. There was also reports of Chinese "advisors" in Afghanistan though not great in numbers
@@RyoKasai25 Yes. Finnish kids online love to inform Russians how "we beat you beat you in the winter war". It's to the patriotics and nationalists similiar to what beating Nazi Germany is to Russians. A reason for pride. David vs. Goliath known. And WW2 is the only war the independent Finland has been at war with other nations so there aren't really other major war things to pround of.
Didn’t mention the most impactful consequence of the split. After the Vietnam War, Laos and Cambodia, all were under communist regimes. Because all of them are grassroots movements, their allegiance also split between the Soviets and Chinese, particularly the Vietnamese favours the former while the Khmer Rouge, the latter. You don’t often hear about Khmer Rouge, especially at the time, which is astounding considering Khmer Rouge killed 1/3 of its country population, the most percentage wise of all communist regimes. You would think American propagandists would jump all over the story, but that’s not what happened. The US, at the time wanted to get closer to China. They ended up keeping quiet over the entire ordeal. What was publicised was the Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia. It started with border clashes with the Khmer Rouge, backed by Deng Xiaoping at the time, made several incursions into Vietnam, in the name of reclaiming their ancestral land. The Vietnamese responded by invading Cambodia and deposing Khmer Rouge, out of overconfidence and probably lack of awareness about the political situation in the Union at the time. The Vietnamese were hoping the Soviet would keep China in check, but what ended up happened was the Chinese army invaded Vietnam from its Southern border, crushing some Vietnamese divisions while incurring few losses. The Vietnamese, rightfully, faced political pressure from the entire world and had to withdraw from Cambodia, handing power over to Hun Sen, whom they installed and made a deal with the Cambodian loyal family which last until this day. The Sino-Soviet split caused a few millions Cambodian, Vietnamese and Chinese death. In a classic example of real politics, representing Cambodia in the UN until the 90s were the Khmer Rouge representatives, because they are backed by China. The entire world condoned and supported a communist regime that killed 2 millions Cambodian, because of China’s backing. It’s even more remarkable when you consider that America aided the Khmer Rouge while they fight against the Vietnamese installed government of Hun Sen, refusing to call the killing of 2 millions Cambodian, genocide. I think this sets the tone for our upcoming China dominated century where things that involves China, but let’s hope that I am wrong.
Britain appeased Hitler hoping that he would turn on Russia. Look how that turned out. USA appeased Mao hoping that he would turn on Russia as well. The Anglo-Saxon russophobia will be their tombstone in the end.
@@rylencason4420 You haven’t studied up on actual Marxist economic theory, clearly. You can see how unchecked capitalism in America has resulted in increasing wealth gaps, tired infrastructure, etc. China is only using capitalism as a stepping stone to true communism.
Wasn't Kissinger in Cambodia while everything was happening, wasn't he on the helicopters while the KR was busting everyone with glasses for being a nerd.
there is one major reason why china will not dominate the next decades. population. i'm pretty sure everyone knows that china has had 1-child per couple policy for 30-odd years by now. as you know 1 kid is not enough to replace 2 parents. 30 years is almost 2 generations with only 1 kid. china's population is expected to HALVE in the next century. even if the communists found a way to rocket up the birth rate, this will still happen. population crises come slowly and impact slowly. the damage has been done. as the elderly population explodes, the CCP will need to take care of them, completely tanking their economy if the population/labor shortage doesn't do it. in addition this will also mean their military will downsize significantly in the coming decades. if china wants any shot at world domination -however small the chance- it needs to do so NOW, before they lose their only major military advantage on the US: huge population.
It's always been interesting to me that the Sino Split occurred because China thought the USSR's communist reforms were too soft, yet the reason why China ultimately remained as the last major Communist power is because of its own liberalizing reforms.
We talked about this as a topic in a Model UN communist committee. I was the only one besides China that was pro-China. The guy for Albania was out and we barely had time for the topic so I was China's ally. I was Romania
1:40 Mao wasn't exporting grain during a drought because he wanted to look rich, it was because he and the rest of the central government didn't know it was happening at all. This was due to the government system where regional managers were supposed to be completely responsible for any problems of their region, and thus avoided telling the issue of the drought and consequent famine to Mao and the party leaders to avoid being reprimanded.
Well he did have a Shanghai speech where he talked about the famine, and (from what I know) second in command talked of a man made humanitarian disaster
China: “how dare USSR send tanks to crush the Hungarian revolution, its not the communist way...” Also China: “student protesters in Tiananmen Square?! Send all available Tank at once!”
@@merrittanimation7721 I'd argue that Rosseau, who most likely inspired Karl Marx, was the ultimate communist. That man attributed all the world's evils to private property.
@Uvuvwevwevwe Osas yeah I think you're right, while I do think deposing Polpot and unifying Indochina is great, the ends doesn't justify the mean enough now that I think of it.
@Uvuvwevwevwe Osas in a perfect world that would happen, people there are too divide to do so, sad really since if they were united the region might actually see some improvement.
So ironic that the split began because of Mao thinking Khrushchev was too conciliatory to the West. And then later on, Mao turned around and sided with the West against the USSR.
Thanks, great video! An idea for a similar one: Sino-Vietnamese relations in 20th century. Appears to me most Westeners think just because the flags and cultures look similar (and "communism"), they must have been great buddies. Very far from the truth though.
The contradiction between China and Vietnam mainly lies between countries, not communism. In fact, this is also a big problem. Communist countries are too tight, resulting in very serious national and territorial problems. For example, on the one hand, Khrushchev asked China to erect a monument for the Russian general who invaded China. On the other hand, Khrushchev told China that Russia, not the Soviet Union, invaded China. Compared with other countries, China is not a nation-state, but a communist country, except for Vietnam. For China and Vietnam, they fight every few hundred years.
This could have been a bit more detailed. There was some hilarious dialogue between Khrushchev and Mao regarding nuclear technology. Also the tension on the Sino-Soviet border was extreme. War could have easily broken out.
Border tensions in 1969 actually boiled over into open clashes. Brezhnev was so furious with Mao that he was ready to bring out the nukes and strike China preemptively. The only major reason he didn't do it is because Nixon stepped in and warned him against it, saying America had "interests" in the region. Some have said he should have let the Soviets do it, but that would mean 10s of millions of Chinese civilians dying (along with who knows how many Soviet and Mongolian ones).
Mao detested Khrushchev because of his thawing of the cold war. Although he had some minor disagreements with Stalin but he believed Stalin was a good communist unlike Khrushchev
The leader of albenia was a real nut head, even in communist standarts - and eventually no one was communist enough for him. BTW he was sure the west would invade albenia, and fortified the country to a rediculous extent. To this day albenia has the most bunkers-per-capita in the world.
transylvanian their capitalist part in China is mainly in commercial cities and for foreign businesses. If not many other places are highly socialist in China.
Stalin had no interest in Asia and so the Chinese Communist had zero support from the Russians. The only faction Stalin supported was the Kuomintang which changed after 1947 when the Communist won the civil war. Mao was a huge fan of Stalin while Stalin personally did not like him. During the 1960s when the Sino-Soviet split happened there was a series of clashes alongside the Russian and Chinese border in which one incident a T-62 (the Soviet's most modern main battle tank) was captured intact by the Chinese and was used for their own tank development. Since the 1990s, China has repaired its relations with Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union.
@@Rishi123456789 Every tankie are either Russophile, Sinophile or both in denial They're just imperialists under different coat of paint and dressings, yet somehow they're ironically being less degenerate than how North Americas and Western Europe entails to be despite of state-atheism bs
Its amazing how the ancestors of Ghengis Khan have become so small and peaceful considering their thousands of years of conquest south into China and west until Moscow
Can you do a video where you explain how usa and ussr became the biggest enemies during the cold war having been allies during ww2? Would be nice to know the whole story between the two during the 20th century. Love your work! Fun, compact and informative :)
I do want to add something, you said that they were exporting grain because they didnt want to look like they were starving. Now im not 100% sure but I would imagine it was quite similar to the soviet situation early on in its lifespan where as the USSR was trade banned from exporting everything except for foodstuffs where it basically was forced to trade food if it wanted to industrialize. Given the wests nature i dont think its that unlikely a similar situation happened with China.
Love how after Khrushchevs arrival, Stalins picture in the Kremlin turns into a cob of corn.
Pretty much sums up destalinisation
Ohhh that explains what that drawing was, but I don’t understand why Corn on the cob was chosen
Khrushchev had a well known fetish for corn. "Socialism can't be built on American wheat" as he said.
@@SloveneAnon Ironically corn originated in the Americas.
C O R N L O R D
2:11 I love how Peoples is just stamped on the Republic of china
I didn't even notice that until you pointed it out.
Zevzs it’s because the PRC replaced Taiwan (Formally known as the republic of China) in the UN Security Council in 1973
Minedor if you look at their passports they are still The Republic of China
China is heading toward a capitalistic ethno-fascism confusiciusm state like Mussolini.
Han supremarcists, chinese ultranationalists
Fun fact: the Fleetwood Mac song "Go Your Own Way" was not actually about Lindsey Buckingham's break up with Stevie Nicks, but actually about the Sino-Soviet split.
Ok
Oh yeah it all makes sense now.
Fun fact: Fun fact is normie
Wot?! Really?
@@wandaperi Fun fact: no.
Not even gonna mention how Mao, knowing Khrushchev couldn't swim, made him meet in Mao's pool room and basically made the Soviet leader doggy paddle and struggle to stay above water
wait that really happen??!!! jeez that's both questionable but funny
@@scamanmagiccarp1932 Yes, he did it in revenge because he wasn't allowed to see Stalin on one of his birthdays, I think (can't remember which one). From what I read about the meeting, it was basically just Mao swimming in laps while Khrushchev was sitting knee deep in water with a ,,fuck me' face.
Khrushchev wanted to build a monument in China to commemorate Russian generals in the Russo Japanese war. The Russo Japanese war is a war between Russia and Japan in China. Mao was aware of the yellow race. He felt very uncomfortable, so he thought of a way to bully Khrushchev.
@@可爱包-c4v also why would China want a monument to utter incompetence built there?
Mao x Khruschev
Change stuff
No.
Ok
Whats up protoMario
I'm stuff
No❤
and that's the wisdom of Mao.Great leader.
3:05 The Sino-Soviet Split absolutely did affect China to a significant degree. Khrushchev pulled all technical advisers out of the country and the complete lack of trade that followed stunted China's development for two decades. Furthermore it's arguable whether the catastrophe of the Great Leap Forward would've even happened if there was no split.
Thank you. In fact, Khrushchev has been paying attention to China and the Soviets have tried to give advice. These things are recorded in Khrushchev's memoirs. This is mainly caused by China's nationality and the whole external environment. There were many student movements in the 1960s and 1970s. Chinese scholar Wen Tiejun believes that this is because China can not solve the employment problem of students, and the world market is not mature, and the employment of workers and farmers is also a problem. Due to the characteristics of Chinese character, this problem has a great impact in China. This problem was finally solved by Deng Xiaoping in the 1990s. Now China is trying to develop Africa, Latin America and Southeast Asia because it is afraid that the world market can not meet China's employment needs. In the Mao era, Mao put forward this strategy. China should unite all poor countries to make progress together, but Mao could not achieve this goal.（谢谢你，事实上赫鲁晓夫一直关注着中国，苏联人也试图给意见，这些事被纪录在赫鲁晓夫回忆录中。这主要是中国的民族性和整个外部环境造成的，在上世界60-70年代，学生运动非常多。中国学者温铁军认为，这是由于中国解决不了学生的就业问题，以及世界市场并不成熟，工人和农民的就业也是个问题。由于中国性格特点，导致这个问题在中国的影响非常巨大。这个问题最终由邓小平在1990年代解决。现在中国努力发展非洲和拉丁美洲以及东南亚，就是害怕世界市场无法满足中国的就业需求。在毛时代，毛就提出了这个战略，中国应该联合所有穷国，一起进步，但是毛无法完成这个目标。）
@@可爱包-c4v Latin American here, instead of developing, it's just colonialism by selling us cheap products while keeping the corrupt politicians in power.
@@LuccianoBartolini Ah yes selling plastic toys=colonialism
I bet you think the US helped free latin America
@@sophisticatedthumb5364 XD
Try more "cheap cellphones, bridges, busses, constructions" among many more.
If you want to make a good "gotcha" argument, at least put some effort beyond a straw man that's irrelevant to the main argument.
@@LuccianoBartolini Yeah I can tell you clearly enjoy military coups and economic sanctions more. No wonder latin America remains poor till this day
Kruschev: *tries to avoid nuclear war with the US*
Mao: “aight imma head out”
He also kinda fucked the economy.
Not that Mao was any better.
loser
“I’m not afraid of nuclear war. There are 2.7 billion people in the world; it doesn’t matter if some are killed. China has a population of 600 million; even if half of them are killed, there are still 300 million people left.” - Mao
@@POCLEE fucking idiot
@@gabriel.b9036 thanks! This is actually what I always thought.
Meanwhile, Mongolia was sweating profusely.
🇷🇺: \/ _\/
🇲🇳: O___O
🇨🇳: /\ v/\
@Jin Bin Ong well, mongolia was already invaded and occupied by Qing dynasty for several hundreds year
*Mongolia when it sees the two nuclear armed regional powers on its northern and southern borders goading each other*
It was a Soviet satellite
I bet ulaanbataar (red hero) the capital of Mongolia, was directed to ussr since Mongolia was a friend of ussr (donated 50000 horses and more)
Also Mongolia serves as a buffer in between Russia and China
I have always wanted to know why Yugoslavia split from the Eastern block after WW2
Tito got rid of the Nazis on his own, so by 1945 there weren't any Red Army units in Yugoslavia and that was key in not being a Soviet puppet. So Yugoslavia was always part of the eastern block just never direct Moscow control, same with Albania
Because you either obey stalin or become his enemy
Yugoslavia was neutral in the cold war, and they hate stalin
Tito had multiple assassination attempts against him which failed.
Thanks lads for answering my question it is much appreciated
2:25 Ah yes the great Soviet leader
Corn
Yes Corn-rade!
@@ricojes i see you are not a wheatling, you upheld the communist oats
Yeah such a great leader
@S.C.H.D_ I didn't
@@ricojes🕶️🌽
The Sino-Soviet relations be like
***THUMP***
Lol
They came down with a bad case.....of death. *thump*
Today there no actual communist or socialist country in the world, expect Cuba.
@@cudanmang_theog *I agree this*
My mother was of partial Russian descent and they allowed my father to carry a weapon but not her but they wanted her to spy on the Russian community in China. When my grandmother heard this she was pissed off. So when they say that these socialist countries didn’t have racism then I can tell you that’s not true.
The split is probably the reason China has survived because unlike most other Communist countries, it didn't need huge amounts of foreign aid from the USSR to function.
They also love capitalism
@brandon you are wrong on every level
@brandon That is just like a childlike understanding of politics and history mate
@brandon smooth brain
@brandon let me guess, you complain about chinese tourists while saying it's a slave nation?
Last time I was this early mao was forcing me to make steel in my backyard
you must produce steel
@@ayindephulgence4950 not again
Mao proved it was possible to produce negative economic output. He set everyone to making steel with no equipment or training, they produce pig iron instead that had to be resmelted before it could be made into something useful.
@Jay Blake they do not wish to know the fact comrade
I got a steel rod available for all beautiful communist ladies.
Last time I was this early
I was running away from the KGB
U r rly funny congrats
Last time I was this early, I war running from the Red Guard
Nikolay Tsankov in soviet russia there won’t be a next time if you are running away from the KGB
Last time I was this early these videos were 10 minutes long
Keep running my man. The KGB may be dead but its operatives are still out there.
Please make a video on the famous History Matters-Ten Minute History split.
It was brutal.
When are you going to release the Orthodox view on Protestantism?
Argyrus 47 been wondering about that for awhile
As an orthodox i think that this question was long awaited by absolutely everybody.
@@aver_nestress4570 Catholics are extremely conservative as a religion and protestantism allows more freedom. If we're talking about history then Catholics used to pay to the church for their sins which is absolutely retarded.
I don't think there are many people here in Russia who even know's what is Protestantism. In fact our "orthodox" people don't care about religion at all, most of them openly hates patriarch and church, I even heard that like 30% of people that claimed to be orthodox said that they don't believe in god
@@randomalien7746 orthodoxies are even more conservative hen Catholics lol, even the word orthodox itself literally means conservative
China aside from being Albanians closest strategic ally was closer to both Romania and Yugoslavia then to the USSR. This was important detail that was missed. Also China going to war with the US was Stalin's idea which also put distance between the two powers. Stalin event suggested having a unified Soviet controlled fleet in the Pacific based in Dalian, which was unacceptable to Mao. The Soviets also briefly supported the East Turkestan Republic and tried to stop the Chinese Civil War at the Yangtze River creating a North/South China. When Mao saw the Soviets starting to encroach on Chinese sovereity that's when the split started.
The USSR has never been a great ally to China. All it want is power and more lands.
你是正确的
right
China: we're the real communists around here
Also China: *proceeds to be the main manufacturer for capitalist countries"
Ghost of Marx: wait, that's illegal!
They still have a communist party
DJ Grandpa . A “communist” party. It may be named communist, but it damn sure isn’t in reality.
They saw how sticking to the book (i.e centralized controlled economy) and then going to a newer system instantly (perestroika and glasnost) is a killer. PRChina tried to keep on the Maoist track with the Gang of Four but Deng sees the realpolitik need to "reform". This is just the CCP trying to maintain power in a post Cold War world...
@Omegan101 China is not interested in anything, only interested in development, development and development. . . .
Dumbest take in history
"Ideological differences are a matter of life and death for Communists."
Lol, this continues to today in online communist discussions. Pretty much every flavor of communism hates every other flavor of communism. If you want a good chance of enraging certain communists, just call Trotsky a hero, lol. That makes Stalinists angry.
Trotsky was a fucking cunt.
Case in point above me.
you mean like How AOC hates Bernie now.
I don’t get how people can love Stalin
@@JayJay-fl1su same
I wrote my high school history thesis on this! Fascinating stuff. It was mostly ideological stuff but they still had strong ties together obviously
A thesis in high school? What weed is your teaching staff smoking, lmao.
@transylvanian ok right, as a Communist myself I do respect you l, but let's see the numbers, ahh yes, Stalin killed 20 Million, Mau almost 70 Million. Their was nothing Communist about Stalin's Iron U.S.S.R or Mau's China. They were both dictators who killed millions, honestly . Marx would be turning in his grave if he saw what Modern "Communists".....I mean Facist Dictators have done.
@@thatwolfensteinguy8954 30 million*
@@thatwolfensteinguy8954 Bro really said "It wasn't real communism!"
"Ideological purity is a matter of life or death for Communism"..truer words have never been spoken.
We see that often how to maintain their ideological purity, millions are butchered by them.
And this is why it fails miserably (well one of the reasons, the main one is that it doesn’t work)
@@dnhdfnfkrjxjxfjjggj3002 well not anymore, at least in PRC, I see loads of capitalism and neo-liberalism supporters on domestic video platforms and not even being censored, these people sometimes bug me, really
You're right, revisionists have historically helped or accelerated the destruction of socialist projects, rooting them out is a matter of life or death.
Back then we supported the USSR but now we support China
Kim Jong-un by “support” you mean they support you, right? Because apart from being a geographic buffer with the West, none of those communist nations need you at all. Some uncharitable folks might even say that you make their diplomatic relations unnecessarily complex
Nuh...
You weren’t born and my country is better
Wait wasn't the DPRK historically more allied to the PRC than the USSR?
@@Hdusiekwbshsjs
Fuck you and the Khmer Rouge. Fuckin CIA mass murderer
This video didn't go into how the Sino Soviet split affected foreign policy specifically in Africa and the fight against decolonisation. The Mozambican Civil War, the Rhodesian Bush War and Angolan civil War, Vietnam and Cambodia too.
I think the PRC was also involved in Afghanistan somehow
@@glorytotheaprdeathtotheufl7917 Other than selling the CIA some arms it could transfer over to the Islamic fundamentalists, I haven't heard of Chinese involvement.
@@MrAnonymousRandom it sold a lot of arms to the CIA who then transfer it through Pakistan to Afghanistan. There was also reports of Chinese "advisors" in Afghanistan though not great in numbers
So China helped the Taliban?
@@andrewsitu5107 nope Taliban was purely America's baby. Remember Charlie Wilson's War? I believe Tom Hanks even won an Oscar for that role
I love how you guys use humor in your videos, it makes them so much more fun (and funny) to watch!
Good work!
Next time:
*Soviet - Finnish Relations (post 1945)*
Interesting
I'm curious, do finnish people make a Vietnam and laugh at the russians for their failed invasion, or they just don't care.
@RyoKasai25 ??? It’s never (well, rarely) the Vietnamese that laugh at Americans for the failed invasion, it’s the rest of the world.
@@RyoKasai25 Yes. Finnish kids online love to inform Russians how "we beat you beat you in the winter war". It's to the patriotics and nationalists similiar to what beating Nazi Germany is to Russians. A reason for pride. David vs. Goliath known. And WW2 is the only war the independent Finland has been at war with other nations so there aren't really other major war things to pround of.
They had excellent relations with Ussr.They even got the Mig21 first even before some members of the warsaw pact
After 14 years of UA-cam I can easily state (as a history buff) that this is the best channel of the platform !
The first History Matters character to die must have been like:
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no mid panel for this channel
That would be King Louise XV of France 1774. His first video
I'd love a video on Anglo-Franco-American relations throughout the Cold War. That was some interesting stuff.
There's a little mistake in the 1st map in 00:01 - USSR has Kazachstan and kaukasus states which is not included in this map
Adam Cieślik It may be including only European SSR's, which would kind of make sense given what the map is showing.
Also , all maps present Kuril Islands as Japanese , not Soviet
Erwin Schliemann then why isn’t Azerbaijan! Armenia and Georgia part of the nap?
Why is Yugoslavia in the eastern bloc
@@floringrigore129 after WWII that'd be inexcusable, at least for the northern half.
Didn’t mention the most impactful consequence of the split. After the Vietnam War, Laos and Cambodia, all were under communist regimes. Because all of them are grassroots movements, their allegiance also split between the Soviets and Chinese, particularly the Vietnamese favours the former while the Khmer Rouge, the latter. You don’t often hear about Khmer Rouge, especially at the time, which is astounding considering Khmer Rouge killed 1/3 of its country population, the most percentage wise of all communist regimes. You would think American propagandists would jump all over the story, but that’s not what happened. The US, at the time wanted to get closer to China. They ended up keeping quiet over the entire ordeal. What was publicised was the Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia. It started with border clashes with the Khmer Rouge, backed by Deng Xiaoping at the time, made several incursions into Vietnam, in the name of reclaiming their ancestral land. The Vietnamese responded by invading Cambodia and deposing Khmer Rouge, out of overconfidence and probably lack of awareness about the political situation in the Union at the time. The Vietnamese were hoping the Soviet would keep China in check, but what ended up happened was the Chinese army invaded Vietnam from its Southern border, crushing some Vietnamese divisions while incurring few losses. The Vietnamese, rightfully, faced political pressure from the entire world and had to withdraw from Cambodia, handing power over to Hun Sen, whom they installed and made a deal with the Cambodian loyal family which last until this day. The Sino-Soviet split caused a few millions Cambodian, Vietnamese and Chinese death. In a classic example of real politics, representing Cambodia in the UN until the 90s were the Khmer Rouge representatives, because they are backed by China. The entire world condoned and supported a communist regime that killed 2 millions Cambodian, because of China’s backing. It’s even more remarkable when you consider that America aided the Khmer Rouge while they fight against the Vietnamese installed government of Hun Sen, refusing to call the killing of 2 millions Cambodian, genocide. I think this sets the tone for our upcoming China dominated century where things that involves China, but let’s hope that I am wrong.
Britain appeased Hitler hoping that he would turn on Russia. Look how that turned out.
USA appeased Mao hoping that he would turn on Russia as well.
The Anglo-Saxon russophobia will be their tombstone in the end.
@@rylencason4420 You haven’t studied up on actual Marxist economic theory, clearly. You can see how unchecked capitalism in America has resulted in increasing wealth gaps, tired infrastructure, etc. China is only using capitalism as a stepping stone to true communism.
@@rylencason4420 lol they practically lost ever war game in china. and the economic and demographic issue is also an issue in US as well
Wasn't Kissinger in Cambodia while everything was happening, wasn't he on the helicopters while the KR was busting everyone with glasses for being a nerd.
there is one major reason why china will not dominate the next decades. population. i'm pretty sure everyone knows that china has had 1-child per couple policy for 30-odd years by now. as you know 1 kid is not enough to replace 2 parents. 30 years is almost 2 generations with only 1 kid. china's population is expected to HALVE in the next century. even if the communists found a way to rocket up the birth rate, this will still happen. population crises come slowly and impact slowly. the damage has been done. as the elderly population explodes, the CCP will need to take care of them, completely tanking their economy if the population/labor shortage doesn't do it. in addition this will also mean their military will downsize significantly in the coming decades. if china wants any shot at world domination -however small the chance- it needs to do so NOW, before they lose their only major military advantage on the US: huge population.
This is the best Channel. You actually make videos about stuff I want to know, and not what I already know like every other channel seems to do.
It's always been interesting to me that the Sino Split occurred because China thought the USSR's communist reforms were too soft, yet the reason why China ultimately remained as the last major Communist power is because of its own liberalizing reforms.
@ahogammer6895 not in the right ways, and by the time they did it was too late
@ahogammer6895 you mean collapsed
They aren’t communist anymore lol
You have no idea what you are talking about 👍
@@ordavis 你就有了是吧
We don’t talk about this, comrade
Sure comrade Ivanovich, we shall sent him to the gulag!!!
@all the princesses men That's a death sentence!
I agree
Something tells me we won't see any videos for quite a while...
We don't talk about Jewish banks in China either.
Soviet union:come on we can talk about this
China: im sorry it's not me it's you
These short videos are very informative and nicely put together.
We talked about this as a topic in a Model UN communist committee. I was the only one besides China that was pro-China. The guy for Albania was out and we barely had time for the topic so I was China's ally. I was Romania
The guy for Albania was in his bunker
Typical Albania
0:33 that glow after "the Japanese lost"😭🙏
1:40 Mao wasn't exporting grain during a drought because he wanted to look rich, it was because he and the rest of the central government didn't know it was happening at all. This was due to the government system where regional managers were supposed to be completely responsible for any problems of their region, and thus avoided telling the issue of the drought and consequent famine to Mao and the party leaders to avoid being reprimanded.
What a dumbass lmao. Some people idolise this guy btw
Your rhetoric stinks. Bad guys are the ministers, the emperor is good.
Well he did have a Shanghai speech where he talked about the famine, and (from what I know) second in command talked of a man made humanitarian disaster
So is he right doing so? Absolute no-no. But he did good stuff to Chinese people so still is a beloved leader.
@@guoxiutang7569
50 million deaths with the great leap forward and the cultural revolution but still a great leader?
China: “how dare USSR send tanks to crush the Hungarian revolution, its not the communist way...”
Also China: “student protesters in Tiananmen Square?! Send all available Tank at once!”
Ilyass Abbad
China never had overpriced tuition fees, dumbfuck
@Ilyass Abbad you two both as dumb fucks lol
@Ilyass Abbad wheres the punchline? don't hide your stupidity by saying "its a joke"
@Ilyass Abbad first of all, no.. and second of all, you're the stupid one for making such a shitty joke, deal with it.
@Ilyass Abbad content cop? your "joke" is rubbish, get over it
Chinese going their own way - CGTOW
Involuntarily expelled from the Soviet Bloc: Ineftsb's
The Chad Karl Marx vs. the Virgin Mao Zedong
@@merrittanimation7721 Karl Marx was German.
@@JollyOldCanuck The joke is that Karl Marx is the ultimate communist. His nationality doesn't matter.
@@merrittanimation7721 I'd argue that Rosseau, who most likely inspired Karl Marx, was the ultimate communist. That man attributed all the world's evils to private property.
2:18 ideological purity was so important that they proceeded to implement none of the economic policies that marx advocated for
Please make a video about the Taiping Rebellion or the Boxer Rebellion.
You forgot the PRC's border conflict with Vietnam in 1979.
Forgot Viet failed invasion in 1988. Vietnam dead - almost 100. China, 0 dead.
@Uvuvwevwevwe Osas didn't Cambodia at the time was ruled by Polpot ?, I mean the Vietnamese invasion may be slightly justified
@Uvuvwevwevwe Osas well err... A united Indochina is better than a divided one ?
@Uvuvwevwevwe Osas yeah I think you're right, while I do think deposing Polpot and unifying Indochina is great, the ends doesn't justify the mean enough now that I think of it.
@Uvuvwevwevwe Osas in a perfect world that would happen, people there are too divide to do so, sad really since if they were united the region might actually see some improvement.
So ironic that the split began because of Mao thinking Khrushchev was too conciliatory to the West. And then later on, Mao turned around and sided with the West against the USSR.
The world of Envers Hoxhas
2:11 I love there's a stick note adding "People's" on China's seat XD
It's a clever detail.
1:47 Right, because the PRC certainly didn't do that later...
The PRC is the quiet kid who gets overshadowed by their cooler sibling/friend, but who ends up way more successful later
This cooler sibling also helped china many times, either economically or militarily
The quiet kid who murdered millions.
@@sergeanthowiefromthemainland agree.
PRC has always been loud AH
0:33 I like the distinctive yellow flash.
0:34 is probably the best reference to atomic weapons ever animated.
0:33 I like how there's a *FLASH* behind the emperor
0:34 Focking love these nuke explosions referenced.
Thanks, great video! An idea for a similar one: Sino-Vietnamese relations in 20th century. Appears to me most Westeners think just because the flags and cultures look similar (and "communism"), they must have been great buddies. Very far from the truth though.
The contradiction between China and Vietnam mainly lies between countries, not communism. In fact, this is also a big problem. Communist countries are too tight, resulting in very serious national and territorial problems. For example, on the one hand, Khrushchev asked China to erect a monument for the Russian general who invaded China. On the other hand, Khrushchev told China that Russia, not the Soviet Union, invaded China. Compared with other countries, China is not a nation-state, but a communist country, except for Vietnam. For China and Vietnam, they fight every few hundred years.
This could have been a bit more detailed. There was some hilarious dialogue between Khrushchev and Mao regarding nuclear technology. Also the tension on the Sino-Soviet border was extreme. War could have easily broken out.
Border tensions in 1969 actually boiled over into open clashes. Brezhnev was so furious with Mao that he was ready to bring out the nukes and strike China preemptively. The only major reason he didn't do it is because Nixon stepped in and warned him against it, saying America had "interests" in the region. Some have said he should have let the Soviets do it, but that would mean 10s of millions of Chinese civilians dying (along with who knows how many Soviet and Mongolian ones).
I would love to have longer videos, I don’t mind if they take weeks, but 10 Minute history is awesome
Mao detested Khrushchev because of his thawing of the cold war. Although he had some minor disagreements with Stalin but he believed Stalin was a good communist unlike Khrushchev
0:34 That's hilariously dark.
I see what you did there.
Here comes the sun
I had no idea that Albania was randomly Maoist but Vietnam Stalinist. Also um, yeah, that explains a lot about Ethiopia's position today
The leader of albenia was a real nut head, even in communist standarts - and eventually no one was communist enough for him.
BTW he was sure the west would invade albenia, and fortified the country to a rediculous extent.
To this day albenia has the most bunkers-per-capita in the world.
transylvanian their capitalist part in China is mainly in commercial cities and for foreign businesses. If not many other places are highly socialist in China.
@transylvanian we have a unique look into the minds of the truly insane
@VHVD Vietnam prefers nationalism, or similar to pure Marxism.
Love how Taiwan is in a picture frame in the background
You're unironically the funniest guy on this whole site.
UN general assembly: "Insert Earth here."
Me: If I do, how do I know you just won't steal it?
Stalin had no interest in Asia and so the Chinese Communist had zero support from the Russians. The only faction Stalin supported was the Kuomintang which changed after 1947 when the Communist won the civil war. Mao was a huge fan of Stalin while Stalin personally did not like him. During the 1960s when the Sino-Soviet split happened there was a series of clashes alongside the Russian and Chinese border in which one incident a T-62 (the Soviet's most modern main battle tank) was captured intact by the Chinese and was used for their own tank development. Since the 1990s, China has repaired its relations with Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union.
Stalin didn't like anyone
Stalin is Georgian not russian
@@NortheastIndiaindetails *Angry Soviet noises*
@@NortheastIndiaindetails Stalin was a Russia-loving Georgian.
@@Rishi123456789 Every tankie are either Russophile, Sinophile or both in denial
They're just imperialists under different coat of paint and dressings, yet somehow they're ironically being less degenerate than how North Americas and Western Europe entails to be despite of state-atheism bs
Mongolia: *sweats nervously*
Its amazing how the ancestors of Ghengis Khan have become so small and peaceful considering their thousands of years of conquest south into China and west until Moscow
@@dustin628 West till Vienna
@@dustin628 peaceful... No
“After the time of their (Japan’s) surrender...”
*Bright flash behind Japanese figure*
Hey, this is the most brilliant historian I've ever come across, seriously...
I’m loving these video topics; it’s stuff I’ve always wondered about but never learned
"Mao saw the use of the Red Army in the hungarian revolution as delegitimizing communism" Ironic.
Communism is a religion of peace... oh wait that doesn't sound right.
yea, but mao was dead when the tiananmen square massacre happened.
probably
It's because the USSR was doing that in another country.
They never attack other nations....
Mao holding up a sign saying "make steel" to a farmer is the best summary of the great leap ever
Mao when he realises throwing a bunch of iron ore at peasants who dont know what it is doesnt do anything
You lose (atomic flash in background). Very accurate
Also, the way you pronounce Boogily Woogily is pure gold. I want to make it my text notification sound.
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!!
1:39 he needed to know how much he could put out so ..He calculated his kingdom
Any chance of a classic 10 minute video now n again, maybe finishing off the British history series please :)
My grandpa fought in Zhalanashköl against Chinese in 1968.
Just made an essay about this a week ago, nowwww it comes a video about this!!!!
I'd love if these were longer
Maybe a video on Italy's split from the Central Powers before and during WW1?
Khrushchev denouncing Stalin's purges was a major reason behind the split. Chinese were shocked by this.
Can the next video be about Communism in Mongolia and Tannu Tuva? Please😁🙏 love your stuff keep up the good work!
A rare video that is all objective and accurate about this matter, thank you for this!
Loving that corn portrait next to khrushchev
2:37 Well that explains why Albania had some pretty insane policy decisions at the time.
Can you do a video on Tito's Yugoslavia and Hoxha's Albania
Can you please make a video on the Orthodox - Catholic split?
I've been catching up on your videos and did not at all realize this was a new one
Please do another End of Year Q&A 😃
You missed out the funny part, Mao allying with Nixon to fight the Soviet Union after condemning the USSR for being too friendly to the US
Miss those 10 min videos
It's kind of hilarious that they split over differing ideas on how to run the economy into the ground.
Really enjoy the vids especially as they’re to the point not rambling on!
The subtle Taiwan references at the start are great
Lol that framed picture of Taiwan on the background 🇹🇼😉👌
I’ve been wanting to know more abt this
Can you do a video where you explain how usa and ussr became the biggest enemies during the cold war having been allies during ww2? Would be nice to know the whole story between the two during the 20th century. Love your work! Fun, compact and informative :)
Incompatible ideologies
They were never friends for ideological reasons, just that both hated germany
Enemy of my enemy stuff
I was always wondering this, great video
Well done,very concise!
It is the year 1960 and the sino-soviet relations * thump * are dead
With so many lies & craziness happening in the world, it's such a refreshing break to watch these short, fun nuggets of interesting history!
I like that Khrushchev replaced Stalin with an ear of corn.
The running through flowers never gets old
I do want to add something, you said that they were exporting grain because they didnt want to look like they were starving. Now im not 100% sure but I would imagine it was quite similar to the soviet situation early on in its lifespan where as the USSR was trade banned from exporting everything except for foodstuffs where it basically was forced to trade food if it wanted to industrialize. Given the wests nature i dont think its that unlikely a similar situation happened with China.