Of course there are many oversimplifications and gaps that need to be filled, but I get that that is not the goal of the video. I think it's important to have very short compact summaries like that, for newcomers that get easily overwhelmed and get a quick summary here. Good Job, really enjoyed it.
Kay, important distinction. The emperor did send the space wolves, though they were just meant to capture and bring magnus to explain himself. Horus intercepted the message himself and changed it from “capture the thousand sons” to “destroy the thousand sons”. Russ, because he hates pscychers (besides his own rune priests) and because he’d seen the flesh change with his own eyes was more than ok with going to end Magnus. There’s also the “rumor” that he had killed the other two missing legions before, so for him and his legion this was kind of an uncommon but not new task. Fun vid though. 8:08
Great detail added, thank you. Overall everything regarding the fall of Magnus was manipulated by Chaos, they fully used him as a tool way before he choose to turn traitor.
I think Russ still regretted what he did to Magnus and Prospero. There’s a small part in the first heretic as well where it’s mentioned that Russ voted/argued against the Emperor turning Lorgar into the 3rd redacted primarch, primarily because he didn’t wish to be used as the executioner for yet another brother and their sons
Choose your character: Lion: The Inflexible Exterminator Fulgrim: The Hedonist Junkie Perturabo: Weaponized Autism Jaghatai: The one with common sense Leman : The drunkard Dorn: Lego Autism Konrad: Extreme Batman Sanguinius: best boy Ferrus: you know it? Angron: anger and daddy issue Guiilliman: tax expert Mortarion: The hypocrite Magnus: The Wizard Who Casts Fireball and Ruins the Game of Dnd (the master did not tell him the room resignation) Horus: Big brother, Lorgar: The one who does nothing but wins Vulkan: Hug and love (for humans) Corvus corax: *TF2 spy theme* Alpharius: 🤷🏻
horus lupercal death was retconned - The emperor stabbed him with the same knife that originally started everything, when the big E stabbed him, it cleased his soul of corruption and so by doing that all that chaos had attached to him was gone. his soul survived. i would say horus is just "dead" not "extremely dead" now.
That's right, thank you for the correction! I'd argue Horus is still super unlikely to come back just for how much it would shake up the setting (same argument could be made for Sanguinius somewhat), but it seems they like to keep their avenues open for everything.
The one where Dorn kills one of the two is Praetorian of Dorn, we don't know for certain which of the two dies though. I had to search up the other for the fight between Guilliman and the other, seems to be index astartes 4. Hope it helps!
Mortarion was blasted into Nurgles house by Guilliman, so i'd change his status to "probably alive" although it's unlikely he died. I believe one of the two lost primarchs was named Malibron, and his legion wore the colours yellow and red (although i've read somewhere else this was being retconned).
The forgotten and the purged probably 1. Defended a xeno species 2. Were friendly towards xenos. I don´t think there's much mystery, people understimate the Imperiums intolerence of other xenos.
They are a successor chapter with no confirmed origin, could be one of the traitor legions or one of the loyalists. Very unlikely they're tied to the lost legions as they've been wiped out.
@@daprofessoryt Most likely they are the successors of the Thousand Sons. It makes sence especially due to their obsession for relics and knowledge just like the Thousand Sons.
Yes there was a clone of Fulgrim, but if I recall correctly he's not wandering but ended up in Trazyn's collection. I doubt GW will mention him again but you never know!
Okay so we know that either Alpharius or Omegon is dead. We know this because the way that one of them died when Rogal killed one of them. Whenever a primarch dies there is always a bright flash then howling winds. This is because their extremely powerful soul enters the warp extremely violently(a theory as to why this happens is that the soul of a primarch is a minor warp god). And this was seen when Rogal killed one of them. So one of them is absolutely dead.
Still alive and kicking! He hasn't been the most active especially in leading his legion when compared with Mortarion for example, but now that they're releasing his miniature they'll surely give some big updates on his lore.
He's actually coming back right now. He was isolating himself on a po** planet to i dunno, have fun I guess, but he returned on the tabletop and in the lore, probably involving a legendary sword of the Eldar, so there will be a lot going on for him this year.
The way I see it is that they're likely as "kind" as Ultramarines, so they do care about protecting the people, but they look at the big picture, they're still practical. Salamanders are specifically called out cause they might risk their lives and the outcome of their mission beyond what would be reasonable acceptable for the other chapters. The obvious example is how Sa'kan was ready to kill a sister of battle for the sake of the civilians. The sister was a possible ally while the civilians just a burden, but he didn't care about that.
So is this what UA-cam is now. Is this like a template vid, why is it so many ppl are doing it. That said, I’m going to watch all of them and play into the problem. I love this shit.
It's like a really popular format to cover lots of stuff in one video without it being too boring. I thought it could apply well to 40k and had the idea to start a lore channel for a while so here we are ahaha Glad you still liked it from what i understand
What’s your opinion on what happened to the second and eleventh? I like to think they got Teutoburg forest’ed with the second being killed and the eleventh being converted by the Rangdan Thank God you’re not using a terrible AI voice
The Rangdan theory is solid, the two legions were supposedly erased cause the knowledge of their existance would have seriously threatened the empire. So if a legion attempted a "Horus Heresy" in favor of a faction that had already been hard to defeat, that would have been problematic. This could be the "purged" primarch. The "forgotten" one could imply such an immense level of failure that it would have shattered the Imperium faith in the primarchs and the astartes, so they had to be erased from the records. Here anything goes honestly, either a military failure like you mentioned, or a more ideological one.
The missing legions do have an actual explanation. they were the “create your own” legions, on traitor and one heretic, although later GW scrapped the idea and lore was made up to explain their absence.
I remember seeing cited an interview where they denied that, but you're probably still right. If we want to do "meta-lore" even now it's just one of GW's many ways to keep some avenues open and leave lots of mystery in the setting.
Vulcan left 9 relics for the Salamanders to find. And After then he will return to lead them once again. 5 has been discovered.
blood raven- "relics you say?"
Trazyn: “Relics you say?”
@@silentshunder54 Blood Ravens : S.T.E.A.L !!!!! xD
Of course there are many oversimplifications and gaps that need to be filled, but I get that that is not the goal of the video.
I think it's important to have very short compact summaries like that, for newcomers that get easily overwhelmed and get a quick summary here.
Good Job, really enjoyed it.
Kay, important distinction. The emperor did send the space wolves, though they were just meant to capture and bring magnus to explain himself. Horus intercepted the message himself and changed it from “capture the thousand sons” to “destroy the thousand sons”. Russ, because he hates pscychers (besides his own rune priests) and because he’d seen the flesh change with his own eyes was more than ok with going to end Magnus. There’s also the “rumor” that he had killed the other two missing legions before, so for him and his legion this was kind of an uncommon but not new task. Fun vid though. 8:08
Great detail added, thank you. Overall everything regarding the fall of Magnus was manipulated by Chaos, they fully used him as a tool way before he choose to turn traitor.
@@daprofessoryt preach king
I think Russ still regretted what he did to Magnus and Prospero. There’s a small part in the first heretic as well where it’s mentioned that Russ voted/argued against the Emperor turning Lorgar into the 3rd redacted primarch, primarily because he didn’t wish to be used as the executioner for yet another brother and their sons
Choose your character:
Lion: The Inflexible Exterminator
Fulgrim: The Hedonist Junkie
Perturabo: Weaponized Autism
Jaghatai: The one with common sense
Leman : The drunkard
Dorn: Lego Autism
Konrad: Extreme Batman
Sanguinius: best boy
Ferrus: you know it?
Angron: anger and daddy issue
Guiilliman: tax expert
Mortarion: The hypocrite
Magnus: The Wizard Who Casts Fireball and Ruins the Game of Dnd (the master did not tell him the room resignation)
Horus: Big brother,
Lorgar: The one who does nothing but wins
Vulkan: Hug and love (for humans)
Corvus corax: *TF2 spy theme*
Alpharius: 🤷🏻
"anger and daddy issue" I think the daddy issue part applies to all of them
@@flithbrin literally the reason of the horus heresy.
Tf2 spy theme probably applies better to Alpharius
Dead on about Perturabo😂
The missing primarchs are the ones that randomly disappear at family reunions but make a big deal when they first get there.
horus lupercal death was retconned - The emperor stabbed him with the same knife that originally started everything, when the big E stabbed him, it cleased his soul of corruption and so by doing that all that chaos had attached to him was gone. his soul survived. i would say horus is just "dead" not "extremely dead" now.
That's right, thank you for the correction! I'd argue Horus is still super unlikely to come back just for how much it would shake up the setting (same argument could be made for Sanguinius somewhat), but it seems they like to keep their avenues open for everything.
When was it retconned?
The Emperor literaly told Horus that he'll be waiting for his return.@@daprofessoryt
I hope Horus returns. He was such a good character pre-heresy
hey bud, love the video again, came back from the last one its good to see you keep up the hard work, thank you :)
underrated as hell good stuff bro! i've watched loads of stuff and this teaches me more than any of em combined
Glad you liked it, thank you!
Alpharius was the first to be found and was there for most of the primarch being found
Allegedly
Maybe but we can't trust a liar's word.
Yes alpharius and omegon are still alive
Alpharius/Omegon never turned to chaos. They are doing what they need to do.
Really like these super short summaries of WH40k. Great for newcomers and gives them a starting a point
Very well put video, short and sweet!
A guy named Horus ends up leading the Horus heresy, what are the odds?
The take I go with for the 2nd and 11th is "We're leaving these two open for people to homebrew for tabletop."
sick video dude, you deserve 1 million views : D
Maybe one day ahaha thank you
Great video!!! For someone who is starting to navigate the Warhammer lore this was really helpful thanks 😅😅😅
Which books are alpharius and omegon possibly killed in please thanks.
The one where Dorn kills one of the two is Praetorian of Dorn, we don't know for certain which of the two dies though.
I had to search up the other for the fight between Guilliman and the other, seems to be index astartes 4. Hope it helps!
@daprofessoryt thank you ❤️
Whats funny is that omegon and alpharius should be switched because alpharius and omegon found each other and switched their names lol
Mortarion was blasted into Nurgles house by Guilliman, so i'd change his status to "probably alive" although it's unlikely he died.
I believe one of the two lost primarchs was named Malibron, and his legion wore the colours yellow and red (although i've read somewhere else this was being retconned).
I thought Lion killed Angron?
Demon prince can come back after death
Fulgrim is my fav, love someone striving for perfection. He's also apart of slaanesh my fav chaos god. Win-win
Let's hope that Fulgrim upcoming novel is very good :)
@daprofessoryt fingers crossed 🤞 I hope it's as good as his model
Alpharius did not die on Pluto. Kel Silonus did. 😏
The forgotten and the purged probably 1. Defended a xeno species 2. Were friendly towards xenos. I don´t think there's much mystery, people understimate the Imperiums intolerence of other xenos.
Are the Blood Ravens part of the Lost Primarchs?
They are a successor chapter with no confirmed origin, could be one of the traitor legions or one of the loyalists. Very unlikely they're tied to the lost legions as they've been wiped out.
@@daprofessoryt Most likely they are the successors of the Thousand Sons. It makes sence especially due to their obsession for relics and knowledge just like the Thousand Sons.
Great service man may the Emperor bless and protect you
Isn't there also a wandering clone of Fulgrim?
Yes there was a clone of Fulgrim, but if I recall correctly he's not wandering but ended up in Trazyn's collection. I doubt GW will mention him again but you never know!
Okay so we know that either Alpharius or Omegon is dead. We know this because the way that one of them died when Rogal killed one of them.
Whenever a primarch dies there is always a bright flash then howling winds. This is because their extremely powerful soul enters the warp extremely violently(a theory as to why this happens is that the soul of a primarch is a minor warp god). And this was seen when Rogal killed one of them. So one of them is absolutely dead.
Yep, I've put "probably dead" on Alpharius for the chance that it's Omegon that died there. Apologies if it might seem misleading!
Actually , I’m Alpharius
I thought Gulliman allegedly killed alpharius during the battle of pluto?
@ I have absolutely zero faith that was either Alpharius or Omegon.
The only one that to me holds any credit/water was Dorns kill.
1:03 wait, I thought Fulgrim died
Still alive and kicking! He hasn't been the most active especially in leading his legion when compared with Mortarion for example, but now that they're releasing his miniature they'll surely give some big updates on his lore.
He’s just been tucked away on his personal pleasure planet going “Oh, woe is me.”
he did get nuked that one time by rylanor (goat) but i think he rebuilt himself so he might be a pepetual and can respawn with enough time
He's actually coming back right now. He was isolating himself on a po** planet to i dunno, have fun I guess, but he returned on the tabletop and in the lore, probably involving a legendary sword of the Eldar, so there will be a lot going on for him this year.
@ im wondering how long it takes fulgrim to get to the "ran out of stuff to do" stage of slaanesh followers
Roboute Guilliman
It is always said Salamanders are the ones who care about the civilians, but shouldn't Ravenguard be the same ?
Going by how Corvus Corax was/is.
The way I see it is that they're likely as "kind" as Ultramarines, so they do care about protecting the people, but they look at the big picture, they're still practical. Salamanders are specifically called out cause they might risk their lives and the outcome of their mission beyond what would be reasonable acceptable for the other chapters. The obvious example is how Sa'kan was ready to kill a sister of battle for the sake of the civilians. The sister was a possible ally while the civilians just a burden, but he didn't care about that.
@@daprofessoryt I see.
Yeah, that makes sense.
So is this what UA-cam is now. Is this like a template vid, why is it so many ppl are doing it. That said, I’m going to watch all of them and play into the problem. I love this shit.
It's like a really popular format to cover lots of stuff in one video without it being too boring. I thought it could apply well to 40k and had the idea to start a lore channel for a while so here we are ahaha Glad you still liked it from what i understand
What’s your opinion on what happened to the second and eleventh? I like to think they got Teutoburg forest’ed with the second being killed and the eleventh being converted by the Rangdan
Thank God you’re not using a terrible AI voice
The Rangdan theory is solid, the two legions were supposedly erased cause the knowledge of their existance would have seriously threatened the empire. So if a legion attempted a "Horus Heresy" in favor of a faction that had already been hard to defeat, that would have been problematic. This could be the "purged" primarch.
The "forgotten" one could imply such an immense level of failure that it would have shattered the Imperium faith in the primarchs and the astartes, so they had to be erased from the records. Here anything goes honestly, either a military failure like you mentioned, or a more ideological one.
IRON WITHIN
IRON WITHOUT
everyone else is fodder.
do a "Every Craftworld Explained"
Will try to cover them in one of the next videos :)
@@daprofessoryt Yes please!
The missing legions do have an actual explanation. they were the “create your own” legions, on traitor and one heretic, although later GW scrapped the idea and lore was made up to explain their absence.
I remember seeing cited an interview where they denied that, but you're probably still right. If we want to do "meta-lore" even now it's just one of GW's many ways to keep some avenues open and leave lots of mystery in the setting.
Sanguinius and manus are def extremely dead they’re never coming back their deaths are too integral to the overall plot of 40k
Nah, Sanguinius spirit is still haunting the Vengeful spirit
extremely dead meaning getting killed by the emperor and have your soul obliterated
Guilliman 1 top good and
Konrad did nothing wrong
boy do i have at least 50 stories for you...
It's also a hammer.