There are 3 types of conspiracy theories: 1. Incredibly racist, directly or indirectly 2. Completely divorced from reality (“Guys, guys, this one TikTok said that Apple has a supercomputer underneath its headquarters made from the brain of a dead giant and it’s waking up”) 3. Genuine whistle-blowing (once in a blue moon, but everyone thinks they’re this kind)
"Tartaria" existed, but its an exonym and probably refers to the mongols or similar steppe tribe that covered a large area for a short while the conspiracy part of them inventing advanced technology or whatever is completely nonsense.
Tartaria is an outdated exonym that refers to the entirety of Asia. Conspiracy theorists believe Catherine the Great was a leader of Tataria even though we know she was called the "Tsarina of All Russia" In correspondence. Sure there's the "here there be dragons" explanation but it mainly refered to all of Asia
As a Mongolian American, I would like to both appreciate you for advocating for Central Asian history and also apologize for unleashing Joe Rogan and mainstream internet conspiracy theorists into the world
Oh boy, I know this one! It's close to the "mud flood" conspiracy, which is one of my favorite weird stupid conspiracy theories because the entire thing hinges on the illuminati/new world order/"DA JOOS" covering up and destroying ancient artifacts to... make the world boring. Literal children's TV villain level conspiracy, it's so dumb I love it.
I heard it's the name of a tribe that the Mongols conquered and the Russians continued using the name and we call the Mongol empire the Tatar-Mongols or just Tatars (different from crimean tatars) with it later being distorted into Tartar by the europeans. So i assume its basically the Golden Horde but some kid added some fake tech to it.
Tartaria real it’s what you call the land of the tartars which were the Turks in modern day southern Russia before the Russians colonized the region today you can find the tartars in the republic of tartarstan in russia
Also tartaria is essentially just a latinized version of the word tartarstan and it was used by Europeans to describe the general region of Siberia/the steppes
They were mostly Mongols who basically stayed behind after 1241. They had their main home in the Crimea and were a constant thorn in the side of Poland, Lithuania, Russia and Ukraine. Stalin forcibly relocated them to the present day Oblast of Tatarstan. They even fought with the Poles and Lithuanians against the Teutonic Knights at Grunwald. Their last contribution was with the Turks at Vienna in 1683. Charles Bronson’s father was Mongol/Tartar.
Fun fact. Ukranian and some other post ussr nationalist use Tataria as anti-russian theory. "look there has never been russia only big tataria(mongol empire), so there is no russians"
It was originally in reference to the Tatars, a real Turkic ethnic group in Siberia. However, European cartographers decided to add an r to it to make it sound more scary, and to link it back to more "known" mythology
It wasnt quite as just made up as that those are the steps. vast emlty bassically rocky deserts where hoard societys of steppe nomads lived and tartars are just one of them that lived more to the west. And europeans not seeing a difference beetwen them nor really giving a shit just labeled them all as tartars
Tartaria is where Yakube sent the white people after parting the red sea with dynamite.
There are 3 types of conspiracy theories:
1. Incredibly racist, directly or indirectly
2. Completely divorced from reality (“Guys, guys, this one TikTok said that Apple has a supercomputer underneath its headquarters made from the brain of a dead giant and it’s waking up”)
3. Genuine whistle-blowing (once in a blue moon, but everyone thinks they’re this kind)
"Tartaria" existed, but its an exonym and probably refers to the mongols or similar steppe tribe that covered a large area for a short while
the conspiracy part of them inventing advanced technology or whatever is completely nonsense.
Is Cimmeria an exonym as well?
I thought the Tartars were like nomadic mountain people who had a sauce named after them.
@@forregom that's literally what i said, the mongols are nomadic
i doubt tartar sauce is related though
“Here be Mongolians”
Tartaria is an outdated exonym that refers to the entirety of Asia. Conspiracy theorists believe Catherine the Great was a leader of Tataria even though we know she was called the "Tsarina of All Russia" In correspondence. Sure there's the "here there be dragons" explanation but it mainly refered to all of Asia
Oh man, y'all heard about the one where "mesas and flat mountains are petrified remains of giant trees?"
Or the one that "mountains are melted buildings"
Wasn't that just a tumblr meme?
@@TomasM30 Some people do seem to honestly believe it.
As a Mongolian American, I would like to both appreciate you for advocating for Central Asian history and also apologize for unleashing Joe Rogan and mainstream internet conspiracy theorists into the world
Is Joe Rogan Mongolian American ?
Great Lechia: Finally, a worthy opponent! Our battle shall be legendary!
Terraria?
its about as real as my will to live
Oh boy, I know this one! It's close to the "mud flood" conspiracy, which is one of my favorite weird stupid conspiracy theories because the entire thing hinges on the illuminati/new world order/"DA JOOS" covering up and destroying ancient artifacts to... make the world boring.
Literal children's TV villain level conspiracy, it's so dumb I love it.
I heard it's the name of a tribe that the Mongols conquered and the Russians continued using the name and we call the Mongol empire the Tatar-Mongols or just Tatars
(different from crimean tatars)
with it later being distorted into Tartar by the europeans.
So i assume its basically the Golden Horde but some kid added some fake tech to it.
Tartaria real it’s what you call the land of the tartars which were the Turks in modern day southern Russia before the Russians colonized the region today you can find the tartars in the republic of tartarstan in russia
Also tartaria is essentially just a latinized version of the word tartarstan and it was used by Europeans to describe the general region of Siberia/the steppes
They were mostly Mongols who basically stayed behind after 1241. They had their main home in the Crimea and were a constant thorn in the side of Poland, Lithuania, Russia and Ukraine. Stalin forcibly relocated them to the present day Oblast of Tatarstan. They even fought with the Poles and Lithuanians against the Teutonic Knights at Grunwald. Their last contribution was with the Turks at Vienna in 1683. Charles Bronson’s father was Mongol/Tartar.
@@detroitpolak9904there were plenty of tartars in tartaristan stalin just relocated the crimeans there because they close enough
@@rolie2713 right.
This tartaria civilization never made sense to me, it even makes Atlantis look like a Documentary.
Tartar sauce was a country at one point. Who knew?
Tartaria is such a b.s. theory. Like you said, it’s garbage.
I thought it was the umbrella yokai who loves scaring people.
I have one friend that promotes Tartaria but it's just ironic. He's a Turanist and a Hungarian
I thought you said Tengrinist for a second and now I'm slightly underwhelmed. Is Turanism popular in Hungry?
@@MisterGraa he believes the world belongs to the Turkish blood. Mongols are also turk to him
@@VeilVametia wait until he figures out that Turks descended from Asians
0:15 - 0:25 This is just Atlantis all over again, isn't it?
Its Atlantis, but with a lot more antisemitism and white supremacy baked in
So this is the great hwan empire from the finno korean hyperwar
isn't that the sauce they use in Spongebob?
Is that where the word "Tatar" most likely comes from?
The sauce of course
Fun fact. Ukranian and some other post ussr nationalist use Tataria as anti-russian theory. "look there has never been russia only big tataria(mongol empire), so there is no russians"
that's where the moon lord is
Isn't tartaria also referring to Tartarus?
The Greek mythology?
It refers to tartarstan (now the Republic of tartarstan Russia) this is the Latin name of it used by Europeans in the 14 to the 17th Century
tartaria was where the mongols came from. Tartaria = Hell on earth
It was originally in reference to the Tatars, a real Turkic ethnic group in Siberia. However, European cartographers decided to add an r to it to make it sound more scary, and to link it back to more "known" mythology
It wasnt quite as just made up as that those are the steps. vast emlty bassically rocky deserts where hoard societys of steppe nomads lived and tartars are just one of them that lived more to the west. And europeans not seeing a difference beetwen them nor really giving a shit just labeled them all as tartars
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