There is some difference, but it doesn't make me think one is better than the other. Actually from 10:03 Neumann reproduce clearer vocals. But i can be wrong :)
Nice channel. I would much prefer free air- outside or in a big hall measurements of the freq response and not a room response as the room will tend to make and bend everything to a much more "look alike" plot and it shows your room`s influence on the speakers response but not really the speaker response. Other than that one wish, nice work. Rock on!
You brought in a few interesting speakers for reviews, did you buy them or on loan from manufacturers? Most of the active reviewed here are getting so good, some of them are clearly very close in their performance, like these two pairs.
Neumann should make a little control box with coax/optical in for living room use. You could even have stereo sub outputs so you could basically make them into crazy 3 ways with dsp. That's what my brain came up with just now, cus I didn't know those connected with Network cables, and the website was unclear if they had analog in.
Great seamless comparison! Thanks for posting these kind of videos, really helpful as a consumer when you can't always A/B different speakers. How did these compare in person? It sounds like the KH80 are more accurate, LSX better LF extension but HF lacking some detail/control? I've just bought some heavily discounted LSX. Wondering if a bit of EQ, mainly on the HF, could make the KEF similar to the Neumann? They seem quite close.
They are so different, the problem in this videos is that room acoustics dominate the speaker response. Kef are really bad in mids and midhighs, and quite imprecise (was not intended as studio monitor). Neumann KH 80 is a reference for near field analysis, I have compared 2 in real world. Better check frequency response normalized in Audiosciencereview for trying to make an idea about how they will sound in appropriate conditions.
Because when the Source Track is listed you are not listening to the recording of the speakers in the room but direct streaming of music. When there is A-B happening you are hearing the Speakers reproducing music with all the influence of the Room sound, Reverberation, Reflections, Bass response etc and all of this recorded through Mic`s which also add their character and frequency response influence and also Mic placement. It`s normal behaviour. That being said, the Kh80 simply has no competitor in this size+price range if you want a linear, reliable monitor tool. If you want more Hifi feeling the Kef will sound less "boring" in the long run. I personally love "boring" linear sound though
There’s no comparison if we talk about resolution and control, kh80 wins big on that, but Lsx sounds a lot more musical to me and just draw me to the music a lot more
Neumann KH 80 is a bizarre case: look pretty flat on measurements but I had it at home and it sounds quite boring as you could perceive. LSX were not good neither, I tried the LSX2 not this one but still didn’t liked. I finally get Genelecs 8030 cpm and very happy with results: musical and accurate. Bigger driver than the KH 80 but the enclosure is very compact so it fits well on a desk
The highs are strange in the Kef. Neumann are better. I freaking love the coaxial speakers, but the Kef are far from the best. Even Tannoy are better. I wish I could try someday the 3 way Genelec with tweeter and mids in coaxial configuration.
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Vs JBL LSR308. Thanks
I’m surprised actually. They sound more alike than they do different. I honestly would never have guessed that.
No competition. German is thee precision tool.
I'd love to see some dynaudios in the future ,bm5 or lyd ,they are usually the main competition to Adams and Yamahas
yamaha ?
They are not competitors, Dynaudio is way better. I would also like to see reviews :)
Neumann is much more neutral.
KEF Sounds warm.
There is some difference, but it doesn't make me think one is better than the other.
Actually from 10:03 Neumann reproduce clearer vocals. But i can be wrong :)
Nice channel. I would much prefer free air- outside or in a big hall measurements of the freq response and not a room response as
the room will tend to make and bend everything to a much more "look alike" plot and it shows your room`s influence on the speakers response but not really the speaker response.
Other than that one wish, nice work. Rock on!
You brought in a few interesting speakers for reviews, did you buy them or on loan from manufacturers?
Most of the active reviewed here are getting so good, some of them are clearly very close in their performance, like these two pairs.
Most of them were loaned for tests from different sources
Dynaudio LYD series please :p
Neumann should make a little control box with coax/optical in for living room use. You could even have stereo sub outputs so you could basically make them into crazy 3 ways with dsp. That's what my brain came up with just now, cus I didn't know those connected with Network cables, and the website was unclear if they had analog in.
i want to see a tannoy monitor vs neumann comparsion
Great seamless comparison! Thanks for posting these kind of videos, really helpful as a consumer when you can't always A/B different speakers.
How did these compare in person? It sounds like the KH80 are more accurate, LSX better LF extension but HF lacking some detail/control?
I've just bought some heavily discounted LSX. Wondering if a bit of EQ, mainly on the HF, could make the KEF similar to the Neumann? They seem quite close.
They are so different, the problem in this videos is that room acoustics dominate the speaker response.
Kef are really bad in mids and midhighs, and quite imprecise (was not intended as studio monitor).
Neumann KH 80 is a reference for near field analysis, I have compared 2 in real world.
Better check frequency response normalized in Audiosciencereview for trying to make an idea about how they will sound in appropriate conditions.
Go Dynaudio bm5 mkiii!! please
Damn these Neumann are neutral and impressive at the same time . Neumann kh80 vs genelec 8040?
KEF LSX - YAMAHA HS8 ?
I want to see Edifier R2750 plus T5 subwoofer
Vs JBL LSR308. THANKS
T5 sub is to boomy for music. Better choice larger driver for sub for music
KEF !!!
Why does when you list the Source Track with data the sound changes and sounds better?
because due to the mic configuration they make the sound out of the speakers very very narrow.
Because when the Source Track is listed you are not listening to the recording of the speakers in the room but direct streaming of music. When there is A-B happening you are hearing the Speakers reproducing music with all the influence of the Room sound, Reverberation, Reflections, Bass response etc and all of this recorded through Mic`s which also add their character and frequency response influence and also Mic placement. It`s normal behaviour.
That being said, the Kh80 simply has no competitor in this size+price range if you want a linear, reliable monitor tool. If you want more Hifi feeling the Kef will sound less "boring" in the long run. I personally love "boring" linear sound though
RCF Ayra Pro 5 ?,Pozdrawiam
There’s no comparison if we talk about resolution and control, kh80 wins big on that, but Lsx sounds a lot more musical to me and just draw me to the music a lot more
Neumann KH 80 is a bizarre case: look pretty flat on measurements but I had it at home and it sounds quite boring as you could perceive. LSX were not good neither, I tried the LSX2 not this one but still didn’t liked.
I finally get Genelecs 8030 cpm and very happy with results: musical and accurate. Bigger driver than the KH 80 but the enclosure is very compact so it fits well on a desk
The highs are strange in the Kef. Neumann are better. I freaking love the coaxial speakers, but the Kef are far from the best. Even Tannoy are better. I wish I could try someday the 3 way Genelec with tweeter and mids in coaxial configuration.
both are very flat .... sound is more natural with neuman with beautiful mids ... no ? :)
In my opinion Neumann is much more neutral and transparent. KEF has its own sound signature
感觉 KH80 低频细节略多些
Iloud MTM x Neumann KH 80 pleaseeeee!
It is on the way
KEF is little better.🤐🎵🎼🎵🎼🎵🎼👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
Airpulse лучше чем эти две
Sounds like you’re using a sub.
kef will always sound different,because of the coax driver. Neumann is also ok,but in reality you can't really compare them.
What do you mean we can't? We just did ;)
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