How to Restore Your Vintage Garden Tractor: Ep. 6 Kohler K Engine Reconditioning & Reassembly

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  • @jhitt79
    @jhitt79 6 років тому +6

    Here's a little tip:
    It's a good idea to put a little bead of weld on the inside part of where the little arm meets the governor cross shaft while you have it out. It's a pretty common failure point for the arm to break off. And as we all know you have to pull the engine out then pull the crank and cam out to fix it.
    I've found more than one of those arms in oil pans.

  • @originalCN4
    @originalCN4 3 роки тому +3

    Another trick I have from personal experience, if your bearing is going into a housing or if your crank is going into a fit, put them in a freezer for a few hours, I worked with size on size or 2-3 thou shrink fits and it’s really great. Conversely, heating things up helps in the appropriate places.....great videos tho, I appreciate your clarity... you’re really good at this

  • @flatstheflounder9874
    @flatstheflounder9874 3 роки тому +1

    Love the vintage Sears/Craftsman tractors I remember my dad bringing home a brand new 1967 Craftsman Suburban I was in the wow factor for months today at 59 I also own a new Craftsman T240 it's a cross between a Lawn/Garden tractor it's a remarkable machine

  • @gabelanger
    @gabelanger 6 років тому +3

    Nice job Norman I know who to see if I ever need an engine rebuild !

  • @nybergsgarage
    @nybergsgarage 2 роки тому

    thanks for this. been so helpful rebuilding the kohler 10hp for my 70's Case 210 garden tractor.

  • @tip56789
    @tip56789 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the video series. I needed this for the governor stop pin. Well done.

  • @markjohnson9495
    @markjohnson9495 4 роки тому +3

    Very professional and well made. Thanks!

  • @campionoverbagh561
    @campionoverbagh561 3 роки тому

    Excellent thorough and fun.
    Thank you

  • @dominique4822
    @dominique4822 6 років тому +1

    Salut Norman,
    Je suis FAN 😉
    Quel dommage de ne pas comprendre tes explications, heureusement tes vidéos sont très bien expliquées. Sur un de mes K301, j'ai supprimé la pompe à essence car usée, aucun problème pour un démarrage à froid, mais plus possible à chaud. Cela peut'il venir de ça d'après toi ? Le réservoir est bien au dessus du carburateur. Un jour j'achèterai un de tes kits de mise à neuf. 😉
    Merci pour cette superbe vidéo 😋

  • @RustyZipper
    @RustyZipper 6 років тому +3

    Great video Norman !

  • @TheSaturnV
    @TheSaturnV 4 роки тому +7

    11:19 Couple of critical tips missing. Be sure to stagger the gaps/joints of the rings so they don’t line up with each other. Also, be sure to install the rings right side up according to the instructions and punch marks.

  • @flatstheflounder9874
    @flatstheflounder9874 3 роки тому

    Kohler engines are the very best

  • @tolbaszy8067
    @tolbaszy8067 4 роки тому

    Excellent video! Thanks!

  • @ccroson7935
    @ccroson7935 Рік тому

    I like watching your videos I’m trying to learn I have an original family heirloom John Deere 300 garden tractor. I grew up with as a child. My father bought it in 1978 brand new and I thought it was the most amazing piece of equipment I ever saw, I currently on it but the motor needs to be rebuilt for sure. I’m just not sure how to do it or where to get all the stuff I need to do it how do I get help with all of these items doing the work and buying the parts.

  • @dennistrufyn9110
    @dennistrufyn9110 4 місяці тому

    Do you not check and inspect the ACR mechanism on the camshaft during overhaul?

  • @Cody-ye3ye
    @Cody-ye3ye 4 роки тому

    Make sure you measure camshaft end play with the rod halfway installed, as in manual. My camshaft measurement changed from .012 to .010! Now I’m in spec

  • @jodybehnke6278
    @jodybehnke6278 3 роки тому

    takes me back to the assembly line only we used a hydraulic press to put in bearings, cam and crank shaft had hand inside case to turn crank to line up cam and balance gears

  • @guyina4x499
    @guyina4x499 6 років тому +1

    Norman you are a brave man. great video, thanks
    and BTW did I miss parts 1 thru 5?

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  6 років тому +1

      Parts 1 through 10 are already on this channel. This was re-upload to correct some editing issues. The original series was posted about a year ago. Check my playlist for Ford 120 project.

  • @indianatone218
    @indianatone218 6 років тому +1

    Excellent vid norm instructive as ever ! Hey I told you I'd get a small tractor ,once my mate showed me these things I was like a rabbit in headlights lol I just couldentt rest .anyway I ended up with a nice tractor off eBay a Westwood ! The back wheels aren't as big as I would of liked but it's nice it's got a 12 horsepower engine by Briggs and Stratton it probably a 1984 ish model there's no black smoke and seems to run well power wise .what mileage say would I get out of this from new and how reliable are they ? Thanks .interestingly and I kid you not ,my son in law is called Norman ,his dad's called Norman and guess what they've called me grandson ? Yes Toby after me , naaahhh they called him Norman as well lol it's a bit of a family tradition .grandkids love the tractor it's cool thanks again Ant from Wales UK .

    • @lukebecker1959
      @lukebecker1959 5 років тому

      I always thought it was a deer in headlights

  • @jerrystauffer2351
    @jerrystauffer2351 5 років тому +1

    That head sanding is slick. Does it also work on the block?

  • @tonysantana1493
    @tonysantana1493 6 років тому +2

    Thank you for the video They are alway very informational, you seem to be very meticulous. Do you sale a rebuild kit for a Kohler 18HP Magnum. I'm thinking of rebuilding mine it looks like it's leaking oil out of the rear seal.
    Thanks again

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  6 років тому +1

      We have a complete Gasket set for your engine. We have 90% of all the parts for a complete rebuild of your engine. We will complete 100% of the parts by the end of the year then we will have a full kit

    • @mrfrog3350
      @mrfrog3350 6 років тому

      Cool vid Norman, I will be contacting you for a kit when we are ready to rebuild our Kohler MV20 Magnum.

    • @joseavelar2599
      @joseavelar2599 6 років тому

      @@Isavetractors do you know where i can find a coil for the kholer engine weldapower 150 it is a single coil. Not the one with multiple coil like a stater. It is on songle piece and a coil.

  • @joshrowland3647
    @joshrowland3647 Рік тому

    So how do you time the balance gears??

  • @theBdunklee
    @theBdunklee 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the video. I bought my kit from you and have been working to finish the rebuild. I did wonder which piston ring goes on the top of the piston from the two rings that are not oil rings. Also, I needed to know which way they face.
    Could you answer this question? Thanks!

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  2 роки тому

      Sure. Ring with inside bevel is the top ring. Install bevel facing up. 2nd ring is the one with a 90 degree step. install this step facing down. Your Piston Kit should have come with written instructions. If you need another copy please send us an email.

    • @theBdunklee
      @theBdunklee 2 роки тому

      @@Isavetractors thanks for getting back, I found the instructions!

  • @jerrydavis2420
    @jerrydavis2420 4 роки тому +1

    I would add to this video a couple of things. Before doing and valve seat work you must make sure the valve guides are in good shape. If they are worn then anything done to the seats will not be accurate. Also you always lap the valves weather they are new and fresh cut seats or not. I would also suggest some assembly lube on the internal engine parts before reinstalling : cam to tappets, cam gear to crank gear. Some people just use motor oil and that works too, but use something and don't reassemble the parts dry. As for the new head bolts. I don't see a reason for them. They are not torque to yield bolts like a modern car engine uses and unless they somehow got severely rusted the factory bolts have worked in rebuilt engines longer than these guys have been alive. Your choice.

    • @josem.2909
      @josem.2909 4 роки тому

      jerry davis if I purchase new valves Do You think they need to be grounded down a little on the length? Or they're pretty much the right length size out of the box? Thanks in advance

  • @wlcreamer9666
    @wlcreamer9666 2 роки тому

    Is this same procedure for 12 HP motor,
    Thank you.

  • @mickdoyle784
    @mickdoyle784 Рік тому

    I have a case TL 100 trencher with an old Kohler motor on it . I think it needs a new carburetor but I can't find any numbers on the motor. There is a number on the carburetor 5205301. Do you know how i would find out how to get parts for it. Thank you

  • @southerndraw92
    @southerndraw92 3 роки тому

    I’d like to get one of your kits for my Koehler engine but I’m not sure what size it is. There are no plates or serial numbers on it anywhere. It was restored cosmetically at some point and everything was sandblasted/painted over apparently. The body is 1954 1054 I’m sure of.

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  3 роки тому

      You can measure the cylinder bore and use that dimension to figure out which one it is. Give us a call or send me an emailbif you need help. Info@isavetractors.com

  • @sergionino8250
    @sergionino8250 3 роки тому

    Good job! I need a conecting rod to k 301 std

  • @Duamerthrax
    @Duamerthrax Рік тому

    I may have lost the instructions that came with my rebuild kit. I have two rings, one with an inner bevel and one with an outer bevel, which is the Compression Ring and the Scraper Ring? I'm also seeing different things online. Should both bevels be facing down or all the lettering be facing up?

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  Рік тому

      Hi There. You install the rings in the 3rd groove, then 2nd, and then top. The third groove is a 3 piece ring. You put the wavy expander in first, and then walk 1 thin rail below it, and 1 thin rail above it. That's groove 3. Groove 2 will be the ring with the outside step. Put that in the second groove so the step part is facing down. Groove 1 will get the ring with the inside bevel. Install that so the bevel is upward. Please email or call us if you have any further questions.

  • @bowlweevil4161
    @bowlweevil4161 6 років тому +1

    i notice that you didn't use any gasket sealer why not? great video i'm going to rebuild my k241 this winter thanks

    • @XPFTP
      @XPFTP 4 роки тому

      with these motors ... dont always need to... there cut pretty darn good.. nothing really warps. but the head.. tho i do use i guess becuse iam oldschool.. the indain gasket stuff from loctite i think makes it. lil brown plastic bottle.. stuff is awsomeeeeeee....... none of this sillycone crap for me on these motors.

  • @bartjuhhh6416
    @bartjuhhh6416 6 років тому +1

    Hi norman I was riding on my wheel horse commando 800 and the engine was backfireing a bit is it the needle or the air screw

  • @jacobvanhalteren7452
    @jacobvanhalteren7452 6 років тому +1

    I Had like 4 shims, i am really confused, where else would these shims go if the cam shaft play is good with one. Does shimming the govener give higher revs or what

  • @bhamby9305
    @bhamby9305 6 років тому +1

    thanks. will it be the same for k321?

  • @chrishx36
    @chrishx36 5 років тому +1

    Hi Norm. I have an M12 on a wheel horse 312-8. When I re-assemble the breather, the nut wants to collapse in the center of the cover thus lifting the edges of the cover and compromising the seal. Any tips? The order I re-assembled is gasket-breather plate, reed valve, reed stop, rubber bushing, filter, gasket then cover. Any help would be much appreciated!

  • @admathaideasrcwwoidtke3221
    @admathaideasrcwwoidtke3221 3 роки тому

    I ordered the stock 10hp kit .in looking at old rings the in gap was huge 85k- 90k gap near 1/8 th could it of ran that way?
    Any way the new rings are 27k to 32k already is that tight enough?

  • @originalCN4
    @originalCN4 3 роки тому

    When you are trying to focus on something in your hand, a trick I’ve seen is people put there hand behind what you’re focusing on, the camera refocuses on the part in your hand in the background

  • @mackendw
    @mackendw 4 роки тому

    at 17:55 in the video after you assemble the valve breather plate, just below that plate there are 2 bolt holes. what are those used for or are they used at all? my k241 is very similar to what you rebuilt in this video.

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  4 роки тому

      Those holes are for various speed control linkages. Some tractors use them, others dont.

  • @michaelcope1943
    @michaelcope1943 6 років тому +1

    Will a 45 degree valve seat cutter work also how big around is needed

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  6 років тому +1

      Most will cut at 46 degrees to have that interference angle. The max valve head width is 1 3/8"

  • @mackendw
    @mackendw 4 роки тому

    hi norman: There wasn't a governor thrust washer (brass?) on the stub shaft when I disassembled my k241. do you know what size/width that is? I will want to put that be in between the governor gear and the stub shaft I'm assuming.

    • @mackendw
      @mackendw 4 роки тому

      @Phil Hall there should be a K301 in the case of the one I have embedded behind the bearing plate where it attaches on the block. if it is a K series. that was how some of the K241s came which are 10HP

    • @mackendw
      @mackendw 4 роки тому

      @Phil Hall was your grandfather the dealer selling them? post some pics of what you have pls & thx.

  • @indymagoo
    @indymagoo 4 роки тому

    Norman do you have a link for the valve seat cutter you use?

  • @karldarby3916
    @karldarby3916 2 роки тому

    The carb supplied with the kit does not have a place for the crankcase breather hose. Is there a different carb available? Other suggestions?

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  2 роки тому

      Crankcase hose was a late 80's emission rule. It's not necessary nor does it reduce emissions for this engine significantly. You should re route the breather hose down and out of the way and let it vent to atmosphere.

  • @shobud7561
    @shobud7561 5 років тому +1

    Do you guys stock new crankshafts for the K181 Kohler 80501d ?

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  5 років тому +1

      We don't but we may able to direct you to good used ones

    • @shobud7561
      @shobud7561 5 років тому

      @@Isavetractors if i could find one that is std i can have it turned .

  • @BrokeWrench
    @BrokeWrench 4 роки тому

    Hi Norman, I bought your kit for my JD314 with a k321 then lost my phone with all my pictures. Quick question if you could. Does the bearing cover have 4 equal length bolts or are 2 longer ones? I had all 4 in the same bag but the 2 seem to bottom out before they tighten down.

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  4 роки тому +1

      4 equal bolts. I believe 1.5" long

    • @BrokeWrench
      @BrokeWrench 4 роки тому

      @@Isavetractors thanks, no idea how I managed mixing those up. They were the only 4 in the baggie and each had its own washer

  • @tractorwars6065
    @tractorwars6065 4 роки тому

    Did you put in rod bearings, or do these k301s not have them

  • @mikewolfe789
    @mikewolfe789 2 роки тому

    I have a killer 14 hp cranks up fine but after running for 30 min it dies have to wait 15 to 30 min before it will start again any ideas what the problem would be?

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  2 роки тому

      You likely need a valve job. Here is an article on that: isavetractors.com/articles-1/engine-science-fixing-the-rough-running-engine-with-a-valve-job/

  • @GarryI449
    @GarryI449 4 роки тому

    Hi, what kind of paint did you use on the block? Thanks...

  • @larrysmith8635
    @larrysmith8635 2 роки тому

    No balance gears ?

  • @melecioybarra5248
    @melecioybarra5248 2 роки тому

    How can I find the serial number for the motor 12 hp

  • @LeviRice
    @LeviRice 3 роки тому

    Do you do work for the public? What state are you in?

  • @wadealan7085
    @wadealan7085 4 роки тому

    I rebuilt my k301 and it was really tight once complete. I could only turn it with a ratchet. Any idea what could cause that? Once I got it started the governor was not reacting to load changes. Now it won't hardly turn over and when it does start it runs too fast like the throttle has no control over the engine speed. Thanks!

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  4 роки тому

      Could be many things. Call my office and I can help you.

    • @wadealan7085
      @wadealan7085 4 роки тому

      What's the number?

  • @pbc1951
    @pbc1951 5 років тому +1

    !! At 20:20 those head bolts look a tad short. .... And I clean out my bolts holes before I start putting in new parts, not after I have a new piston & rings in there.

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  5 років тому +1

      about 90 seconds after that point, you will hear me explain the head bolts.

    • @josem.2909
      @josem.2909 5 років тому +1

      Paul Couch Hello, how do you clean out bolt holes Sir? Do you use a tap too? I will be replacing a head gasket on my K321 any tips would be appreciated.

    • @pbc1951
      @pbc1951 5 років тому +2

      @@josem.2909 I use a tap tool, WD-40, compressed air, but do it before I put in any new parts.

    • @josem.2909
      @josem.2909 5 років тому +1

      Paul Couch thank you very much sir! Since I'm just replacing the head gasket, guess, l only put the cylinder at TDC and cover it very well before cleaning the bolt holes, thanks for replying

  • @jeffreyhoffmann2176
    @jeffreyhoffmann2176 2 роки тому

    What size ball hone do you use?

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  2 роки тому +1

      I use the closest to the nominal diameter of the bore

  • @admathaideasrcwwoidtke3221
    @admathaideasrcwwoidtke3221 3 роки тому

    Do you know the thickness of the governor gear washer spacer thickness.i lost mine and replaced it with one close
    Can I be ok to choose a different spring hole till it runs best?

  • @qgood1234
    @qgood1234 6 років тому

    How do you tell the difference between the scraper ring and the compression ring??

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  6 років тому

      Depends, but typically Inside bevel is compression ring. Scraper has 90 degree step.

  • @curtnicholson7771
    @curtnicholson7771 5 років тому

    You didn't mention anything about the positioning of the end gaps on the piston rings before you install the piston.

  • @garymallard4699
    @garymallard4699 5 місяців тому

    🇨🇦🤓🤟

  • @thomasaliwalas7670
    @thomasaliwalas7670 2 роки тому

    How much you charge for the kind of work

  • @garyclarke1340
    @garyclarke1340 4 роки тому

    Don't install fuel filter between Fuel Pump and Carb if you don't want vapor lock symptoms year round.

  • @adventureguy4119
    @adventureguy4119 3 роки тому

    what size hone

  • @evangill8433
    @evangill8433 5 років тому

    Where do you get your ball hone?

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  5 років тому

      Good question: Here you go: Ball Hone:
      amzn.to/2XDAiU4

  • @mackendw
    @mackendw 4 роки тому

    when you install the bearing plate onto the PTO shaft after putting the 2 gasket/shims, it is not evident if you had previously installed the bearing into the bearing plate? is that the case?

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  4 роки тому

      Yes I installed the bearing in the bearing plate and then installed onto engine. Thanks for the good question

  • @adventureguy4119
    @adventureguy4119 3 роки тому

    Kohler says 285lb on the connecting rod then I reolised the old measuring system was in inch pounds not foot pounds i forget that was wrote for a beam wrench it translate to

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  3 роки тому +1

      We have had customers make this mistake. Big difference between 285 inch pounds and 285 foot pounds!

  • @sergiomosqueda3353
    @sergiomosqueda3353 4 роки тому

    Hi, do you know anyone that might have a cast iron Kholer engine Model k341S for sale?

    • @mackendw
      @mackendw 4 роки тому

      www.ebay.com/itm/KOHLER-K341-SHORT-BLOCK-NEW-OLD-STOCK-NLA-KOHLER-45-522-22-RARE-FIND-16hp-NEW/202847929852?hash=item2f3aadc5fc:g:k6UAAOSwD~9d3YPB

  • @lukebecker1959
    @lukebecker1959 5 років тому +2

    I need a new 18 hp Kohler engine for my ford garden tractor

  • @tnerbsg8134
    @tnerbsg8134 3 роки тому

    Anyone have a link to a good rebuild manual

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  3 роки тому

      isavetractors.com/content/Kohler%20K%20Engine%20Service%20Manual.pdf

    • @tnerbsg8134
      @tnerbsg8134 3 роки тому

      @@Isavetractors thanks so much. Do you suggest leaving the balance gears or eliminating them?

  • @elvinlopez9691
    @elvinlopez9691 4 роки тому

    I have one I want to repair it help me

  • @outtatime4512
    @outtatime4512 2 роки тому

    I had to quit watching.
    Too many commercials.
    I will never buy anything from a UA-cam ad...never

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  2 роки тому +1

      That's a youtube thing not a me thing.

    • @Duamerthrax
      @Duamerthrax Рік тому

      considering this channel sells parts, i doubt they care if you learn to use an ad blocker.

    • @outtatime4512
      @outtatime4512 Рік тому

      @@Duamerthrax ad blockers don't work on my phone

    • @Duamerthrax
      @Duamerthrax Рік тому

      @@outtatime4512 Revanced

  • @lukebecker1959
    @lukebecker1959 5 років тому +1

    I've never liked the Kohler engines

    • @cambobby2011
      @cambobby2011 5 років тому +1

      HI. I'm new into this kind of hobby. Qst: why do you hate Kohler engines? From what I see on the internet, these engines seem to be kind of good engines for commercial machines. I got a free Ford LGT165 tractor from someone who bought a new property and it was in the gagage, since neither the guy or his wife didn't know anything in mecanic, they just put it on the internet for free to get some more room in their new garage!!!. So I'm planning on rebuilding the whole tractor, myself and probably installing a front loader (I already bought all the parts for the building in the last year planning to do it). I have a lot of Tools, and I worked in the past with mecanics , and I thought , why not that ford tractor, it seem to be a good proect, and later, probably doing some small jobs with it, and making some money out of my project… Tks.

    • @lukebecker1959
      @lukebecker1959 5 років тому +1

      @@cambobby2011 I've had a lot of problems with the older twin cylinder Kohler engines in a lot of my tractors

    • @cambobby2011
      @cambobby2011 5 років тому +1

      ​@@lukebecker1959 I read about problems with the 2 cylinders Kohler engines. Mine is a one cylinder 16hp K341. From what I read, these one cylinder engines are kind of classic and good ones I hope this is true!!!Lol. But for now, I haven't even stated to look at it yet, so it's just sitting in my garage, untill I finally get the time to start working on it this winter. As a hobby, I'm all excited about this proect, l'm like a kid walking in a candy store!!! Lol. I've always wanted to do that kind of projects on my own. Anyway. I'll see…

    • @lukebecker1959
      @lukebecker1959 5 років тому +1

      @@cambobby2011 yes the one cylinder Kohler engines are good engines and could last a very long time with little to no problems at all

    • @lukebecker1959
      @lukebecker1959 5 років тому

      @@cambobby2011 good luck on the tractor

  • @beeenn649
    @beeenn649 Рік тому

    I do NOT care for chasing the threads on the block before installing the cylinder head with a tap, mainly because there some shitty taps out there and you may remove material where you don't want to. A little oil on the threads would be better.

  • @cheekybastard99
    @cheekybastard99 4 роки тому

    Hi Norman, do you recommend using loctite when re-assembly?

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  4 роки тому

      No typically. I use lockwashers when applicable. Some people use loctite for the air filter mounts, but I don't feel the need.

    • @XPFTP
      @XPFTP 4 роки тому

      for me.. the inside screws on some air filter mounts... i would use at least i think its blue.. or meduim loctite.. just a small drop.... look at it this way.. i would be much happer diggin a screw out of carb. then rebuild motor becuse the screw got sucked in.. or washer got sucked in... thats just me... and after spending over 500 on a rebuild.. without crank or cam or lifters. yes the big rebuild kit from isave . me putting it back togther.. lil loctite is worth every penny...

  • @cheekybastard99
    @cheekybastard99 4 роки тому

    How do you feel about head studs? Worth it?

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  4 роки тому

      Some configurations use head studs. Studs or bolts work fine.

  • @cheekybastard99
    @cheekybastard99 4 роки тому

    Hi Norman,
    Can you tell me where I can find these grade 8 head bolts?

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  4 роки тому

      Your local hardware store. They are just grade 8 3/8" coarse thread bolts

  • @FastenDeezNutz
    @FastenDeezNutz 3 роки тому

    I'm missing the reed valve.

    • @Isavetractors
      @Isavetractors  3 роки тому

      Give us a call or an email, I probably have one for you.

  • @hermantom4292
    @hermantom4292 Рік тому

    Where can i find a carb.

  • @lukebecker1959
    @lukebecker1959 5 років тому +2

    I've never liked the Kohler engines