I will never grow tired of your content, LSV. I've been watching all your content for years, and I love it as much as day 1. I absolutely love how the universe just decided to dangle an academy and a mox in your face, immediately after threatening to force madness. 10/10.
"We're gonna force dredge! That's right, we're gonna take all the dredge cards no matter what. Totally focused on dredge. I mean academy. Hard forcing academy, just like I said. Taking those academy cards no matter what."
I lost in my 3-0 match to a crazy dredge deck. Turn 1 mox emerald, survival of the fittest. Turn 2 survival 3 times, vengevine, rootwalla, rootwalla. The deck definitely can be decent.
Thanks for all the awsome content and thanks for the match (opponent game 1)! Mono Blue with Path, Oust and Winds as a splash. The red was a Dack from the SB, had it in hand but you refused to play an artifact I could steal.. Game 1 I tunneled thinking I needed the second white for overload, would probably be better to just kill the Cappa there!
i dont know if the dredge force idea spawned from my comments on the last video but i appreciate the effort I think the most likely scenario is you end up with something that's a blend of dredge and reanimator
The last time dredge was in the cube, I drafted it almost exclusively with tons of success. There aren't a lot of classic early picks that lead to the deck; you have to commit to a Bazaar or Hogaak and believe!
@@caochadttv The dredge deck also probably fits ok with some of the lands synergy, specifically Six and maybe loam + special land recursion. I'm curious to see it in action. The lands stuff is actually good, but I haven't really had a coherent dredge deck come together.
Hi Luis, just wanted to thank you for such consistency on producing top notch content! It’s my daily dose of Magic and I’m truly grateful! Cheers mate!
Would love to see some different cubes in action, there’s a pretty big cube community online I’m sure you could tap into! Don’t get me wrong, it’s neat to watch you take 6 minute turns comboing people into oblivion, but it would be cool to see something more like a very high powered limited set (ie unpowered cube with no combo). Thanks for the videos, keep up the great work!
I actually really liked this deck despite being clowned by that busted mono blue tempo deck which surely 3-0'd. We had bad draws in match one but then WENT OFF in the others so the content was exquisite
I would've taken tamiyo over gut, just seems so good with saga + urza + academy + cannoneer (makes it unblockable on attack) + buying back wheels. Will have to see how it panned out in the games
I have seen LSV reluctantly pick Myr Battlesphere and put in in the SB in multiple of these decks. This is puzzling to me: it is very castable and making 5 artifacts seems just insane with Urza, academy, saga, saheeli, and even time warp (battlesphere into time warp off of urza anyone?!). Why is this not the best 7 drop for these decks/what am I missing?
Maybe I'm hard undervaluing a two-drop artifact, but I feel like I'd rather have Scalelord in this deck than Legionnaire ... it's a win-more, isn't it?
Why'd you pick jace over consider? I mean it's not the best cantrip, but it helps keep the curve low and the deck consistent, which is really all you need, right?
I think it's for the best that you didn't force the deck. If you really want to give it the best shot possible, you'd force it after opening the draft with a particularly powerful dredge piece. To be fair, I'm not even sure what that would be. None of the cards in dredge stand out to me as being signposts for the archetype.
I think you've been a little hard on graveyard strategies, and they aren't going to be the best in the Cube. So I don't think you should force them but if it's there and your first picks work well, then that's when you might force it.
I feel like the hard thing about that strategy is that generally good first picks don’t synergize with it. You really have to make a effort it looks like
@@mekhihernandez4478 true. I'm not sure any first picks pull in that direction. Mox Emerald, thought seize, demonic tutor, force, and maybe library are the kinds of cards that are individually powerful and would work well in the graveyard deck. There's probably a more powerful deck for those cards though in most drafts. Maybe you just move in when you see late survival, Vengeance, etc.
"We're gonna hard force the Dredge deck!" -immediately drafts Academy- This is the content we come for!
I legit LOLed super loud at that
I swear it seems like sometimes LSV doesn’t check the title of the video first
@@Anusien just last week, he and Marshall Sutcliffe did a whole episode titled "New Capenna Draft #" and had the audacity to talk about MH3. 😬😅🤣
The perfect first minute of hard forcing dredge
I will never grow tired of your content, LSV. I've been watching all your content for years, and I love it as much as day 1. I absolutely love how the universe just decided to dangle an academy and a mox in your face, immediately after threatening to force madness. 10/10.
LOL, saw Academy and went “no way he forces this,” Academy prevails.
... I can't do that to myself... Next video will be hard-forcing the dredge deck! 😂👌
This was a great version of the dredge deck. I can't wait to see it succeed again.
thanks LSV for keeping me in the game and giving me the gift of Vintage Cube, I would have never got into it without your content.
Every day at 10am, I go refresh, refresh, refresh.
"We're gonna force dredge! That's right, we're gonna take all the dredge cards no matter what. Totally focused on dredge. I mean academy. Hard forcing academy, just like I said. Taking those academy cards no matter what."
I lost in my 3-0 match to a crazy dredge deck. Turn 1 mox emerald, survival of the fittest. Turn 2 survival 3 times, vengevine, rootwalla, rootwalla. The deck definitely can be decent.
Thanks for all the awsome content and thanks for the match (opponent game 1)! Mono Blue with Path, Oust and Winds as a splash. The red was a Dack from the SB, had it in hand but you refused to play an artifact I could steal..
Game 1 I tunneled thinking I needed the second white for overload, would probably be better to just kill the Cappa there!
Glad to see the Graveyard Deck is better than you thought! 👍
10 seconds and I'm in stitches 😂
pearl, academy, saga, wheel is such a sweet start
Come for the vintage cube, stay for the jabs at the summoning sick animation 😂
i dont know if the dredge force idea spawned from my comments on the last video but i appreciate the effort I think the most likely scenario is you end up with something that's a blend of dredge and reanimator
or even dredgebreachfreeze basically some kind of multi combo synergy deck
The last time dredge was in the cube, I drafted it almost exclusively with tons of success. There aren't a lot of classic early picks that lead to the deck; you have to commit to a Bazaar or Hogaak and believe!
@@caochadttv The dredge deck also probably fits ok with some of the lands synergy, specifically Six and maybe loam + special land recursion. I'm curious to see it in action. The lands stuff is actually good, but I haven't really had a coherent dredge deck come together.
I also commented to force dredge some days ago. He reads the comments.
Hi Luis, just wanted to thank you for such consistency on producing top notch content! It’s my daily dose of Magic and I’m truly grateful! Cheers mate!
I love the first minute and a half of this video 😂
Hot off the presses, just in time for breakfast.
Ah yes, another Esper Sentinel + Time Spiral deck. When is LSV finally gonna draft something new?
I've heard of pivoting before but that was just wild!!!
A minute in and I’m already locked; you’re the best, LSV.
Would love to see some different cubes in action, there’s a pretty big cube community online I’m sure you could tap into!
Don’t get me wrong, it’s neat to watch you take 6 minute turns comboing people into oblivion, but it would be cool to see something more like a very high powered limited set (ie unpowered cube with no combo).
Thanks for the videos, keep up the great work!
Didn't you have lethal in game one if you just made a construct with saga?
Came looking for this comment. I think so too.
Minute in and I’m dying of laughter 😂😂
hilarious opening to the video 🤣
Love your draft vids LSV
Gotta love the typical Pearl, Opal, Bauble, Kappa mirror in singleton cube (
me when I'm furiously beating my Academy
when I said hard-forcing, I meant firm-forcing....:D
Experiment will have to wait LUL :D
"Next time, I swear!"
Couldn't you have made a saga token for lethal with cannoneeragainst that blue deck?
Same question
I actually really liked this deck despite being clowned by that busted mono blue tempo deck which surely 3-0'd. We had bad draws in match one but then WENT OFF in the others so the content was exquisite
10/10 intro
urza spin hits land every single time
Rest in peace Dredge deck. P1P1 -> P1P2
I would like to see you take Tamiyo in an Academy deck sometime, it seems totally nuts with Academy and comparable to Ragavan in general
I would've taken tamiyo over gut, just seems so good with saga + urza + academy + cannoneer (makes it unblockable on attack) + buying back wheels. Will have to see how it panned out in the games
Hahah I love the pivot.
Does anyone know what set the islands the first opponent was using?
I have seen LSV reluctantly pick Myr Battlesphere and put in in the SB in multiple of these decks. This is puzzling to me: it is very castable and making 5 artifacts seems just insane with Urza, academy, saga, saheeli, and even time warp (battlesphere into time warp off of urza anyone?!). Why is this not the best 7 drop for these decks/what am I missing?
Lsv drafting the perfect vintage cube dredge deck (he did not take 1 dredge card)
Lsv needs to treachery to untap an academy one day 😂
Maybe I'm hard undervaluing a two-drop artifact, but I feel like I'd rather have Scalelord in this deck than Legionnaire
... it's a win-more, isn't it?
I remember when Jace the Mind Sculptor was better than all.
C'mon LSV I wanna see you trophy with dredge lol
Let's force a new archetype... Sike back to my old ways
16:52 i think playing the island there was a mistake.
Why'd you pick jace over consider? I mean it's not the best cantrip, but it helps keep the curve low and the deck consistent, which is really all you need, right?
This video he can ,in fact, keep getting away with it.
Almost lasted a whole minute without drafting artifacts
I think it's for the best that you didn't force the deck. If you really want to give it the best shot possible, you'd force it after opening the draft with a particularly powerful dredge piece.
To be fair, I'm not even sure what that would be. None of the cards in dredge stand out to me as being signposts for the archetype.
Lmfao firm forcing it
perfect
Lunch?
Can we do a stipulation draft at some point?
He literally says next draft is a stipulation in the first minute
I think you've been a little hard on graveyard strategies, and they aren't going to be the best in the Cube. So I don't think you should force them but if it's there and your first picks work well, then that's when you might force it.
I feel like the hard thing about that strategy is that generally good first picks don’t synergize with it. You really have to make a effort it looks like
@@mekhihernandez4478 true. I'm not sure any first picks pull in that direction. Mox Emerald, thought seize, demonic tutor, force, and maybe library are the kinds of cards that are individually powerful and would work well in the graveyard deck. There's probably a more powerful deck for those cards though in most drafts. Maybe you just move in when you see late survival, Vengeance, etc.
Lol at p1p2.
Ignore everything I just said...
more shapes besides cubes please
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