What the Hormones Didn’t Solve | a Detrans Story, with Sinead

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  • @addictive7356
    @addictive7356 5 років тому +739

    I’m a trans person and I’m scared of the cult that has become the trans community. I’m starting to remove any aspects of my life having to do with being trans (aside from medical, and relationship aspects, of course). The internet is crazy, and all these people can get together and recruit more into their mindset.

    • @roxzannezook3269
      @roxzannezook3269 5 років тому +87

      People seem to have forgotten the beauty of minding their own business

    • @naryainc
      @naryainc 4 роки тому +132

      @@roxzannezook3269 It's worse, they have adopted the mindset of butting into childhood development, ignoring parental rights outright.

    • @NastyBiscuit1
      @NastyBiscuit1 4 роки тому +81

      @@ginaritchie451 No one on this UA-cam channel is talking about left or right. Ben is talking to people to work out what is right and what is wrong.

    • @superhetoric
      @superhetoric 4 роки тому +19

      @@ginaritchie451 braindead comment

    • @AR-ml9eo
      @AR-ml9eo 4 роки тому +50

      Best of Luck to you. It is important that Detransitioners speak up and be provided a platform to speak to young people who may be undergoing gender disphoria. It is only fair, and scientific that persons considering making any damaging and irreversible medicalized changes to their bodies have the opportunity to view other opinions.
      Proponents of Transgender Ideology do not want young people to have the opportunity to hear other ideas. Just as they use censorship and threats to silence anyone who disagrees or even seeks to ask questions.
      Best of luck with your decision. Please speak up to let others what you are going through!

  • @RonnieD1970
    @RonnieD1970 5 років тому +315

    What a wonderful guest. Humble, honest and so articulate. Great interview.

  • @karenaubert8852
    @karenaubert8852 5 років тому +77

    I wish Ms.Watson well. She has been through so much at such a young age but seems to have developed into a wise, intelligent,
    and compassionate human being. I hope she will continue to be willing to be interviewed and speak from the heart.

  • @abradolfhonkler9287
    @abradolfhonkler9287 5 років тому +146

    This interview was fascinating, encouraging and heartbreaking in equal measure. Watson is great to listen to, I just hope she finds the happiness she so thoroughly deserves.

  • @dvg4536
    @dvg4536 5 років тому +120

    Just wanted to say, as many have, Benjamin you are an amazing listener. We really need more of that out there today.

    • @BenjaminABoyce
      @BenjaminABoyce  5 років тому +23

      Isn’t that an odd exhibitionism-the type that compels people to be watched watching others-

  • @JNYC-gb1pp
    @JNYC-gb1pp 5 років тому +225

    Transition issues seem to be like regular people doing the "once I get x, then my life will be better'. For most people the 'x' is a better job, better apartment, better friends, better romantic relationships but for dyphoric people the 'x' is the other sex. Very sad.

    • @saintejeannedarc9460
      @saintejeannedarc9460 5 років тому +28

      Hi Julie, happy new year. Yes, it's beyond tragic, because at least the disappoint of getting X and finding out your still the same old person w/ the same old issues is part of life and growing up. This trans horror leaves you mutilated and sterile and there's no take back , no revamping your job or stuff you thought you needed.

    • @jessicacrets8516
      @jessicacrets8516 5 років тому +30

      Hey! I'm trans! So you're, not wrong to a degree. A lot of people with dysphoria go into transition thinking it will solve all their problems and it doesn't. What it solves (in most but not all cases) is our gender dysphoria. In my personal experience what I realized was that while everything was coated by my dysphoria, once I had that under control it became obvious to me that I had other issues I had to deal with. Transition only takes care of that one thing but a lot of us jump in expecting everything to be fixed and better but it doesnt.
      Whenever someone asks me for advice about transition I always make sure to tell them that they shouldn't go into it thinking it will fix all there problems. That if transition is what they think they need, that they go in with realistic expectations.
      I personally think transition can be helpful for some people (like myself) but that people who do decide to transition need to make sure they're going in with their eyes open and their expectations reasonable.

    • @magsteel9891
      @magsteel9891 5 років тому +13

      Jessica Crets do people receive your advice well?
      I'm concerned that the current culture of being supportive to the point of being laudatory can influence the transition decisions people make. People like attention, acceptance, and validation. But they will have to live with the outcome.

    • @jessicacrets8516
      @jessicacrets8516 5 років тому +13

      @@magsteel9891 generally, but it's not something they're hearing from a lot of people. They're certainly not hearing it from most gender therapists. I didn't. They prescribed hormones to me after 2 sessions even I wanted to talk through it more.
      But as I was transitioning every once in a while I'd hear it from other trans people who were a couple years ahead of me. But it's not being said enough and there are always people who get mad here and there if you try and tell them it because tumblr and whatever has conditioned them to think it's a cure all.

    • @magsteel9891
      @magsteel9891 5 років тому +4

      Jessica Crets the original poster is right, everyone wants a simple explanation for the things that make them unhappy. I hope you find your happy.

  • @basedboomer5912
    @basedboomer5912 5 років тому +48

    If only people could see themselves as others see them. Such a striking, open, honest, charismatic woman, you would think think the world was her oyster. To be human is to have regrets, I wish her well.

  • @kassie106
    @kassie106 5 років тому +166

    Thanks for hearing my friends story. She has a great POV for all of these issues. Glad she's got the power within to speak up about all of this. Love you Watson ❤

  • @sonjahart7913
    @sonjahart7913 5 років тому +99

    What a lovely person
    I just want to give her a big hug 💕
    Hope everything will work out ok

  • @carolynbrightfield8911
    @carolynbrightfield8911 5 років тому +71

    Watson, you have the most gorgeous Scottish brogue. Thank you for your sane voice in this wilderness.

    • @TheTeach56
      @TheTeach56 2 місяці тому

      That's an accent, not a brogue. Scottish brogue is a language unto itself, unintelligible for outsiders.

  • @katieandnick4113
    @katieandnick4113 3 роки тому +41

    She seems so self aware. What an awesome person.

  • @johnm7437
    @johnm7437 5 років тому +45

    Thank you for the sanity. You are a courageous person Watson. This is an important conversation.

  • @lotusstar347
    @lotusstar347 5 років тому +437

    I was very moved by this interview. As a former teacher for forty-three years, I saw so many young men and women who were just so lost find clarity by simply being allowed to discuss whatever in their lives was bothering them. If free, open and protected environments are provided, young persons struggling to "find themselves"will find fellowship. It has now, however, become politically dangerous to any teacher to simply provide a space for discussion.

    • @charlottemckenzie5259
      @charlottemckenzie5259 4 роки тому +8

      True

    • @chocolatebunny3221
      @chocolatebunny3221 2 роки тому +3

      It shouldn’t be. School are required to have guidance counselors, that’s the only way they can have their safe space. To take away a required position is to damn children into silence. But sometimes it’s hard to have discretion when dealing here certain issues that children don’t want everyone else knowing. (Suicidal thoughts and abuse) stuff like that can also scare children into silence even more.

    • @Brandi_the_Baker
      @Brandi_the_Baker 2 роки тому +6

      It’s not a teacher’s responsibility to provide that free talking space. You are to teach them. Not worrying about their mental state. Don’t teach them anything other than educational material.

    • @lotusstar347
      @lotusstar347 2 роки тому +12

      @@Brandi_the_Baker Critical thinking skills involve discussion. So does all literature. Students test their own thinking skills against the poets, authors, great thinkers and against one another. However, I get what you are saying. Many teachers now try to win the kids over to their particular biases. If kids want to know my thinking, they will have to guess. My job was to teach them many kinds of approaches to finding facts and truth, not to tell them what to think. No teacher is to be a robot or expect robotic behavior or thinking which is what it sounds like you are advocating.

    • @strawberryquark
      @strawberryquark 2 роки тому +1

      @@lotusstar347What a good point. I loved these fundamental discussions in class.

  • @fainitesbarley2245
    @fainitesbarley2245 5 років тому +695

    I’m impressed that rabbit can pronounce it’s words so clearly while chewing.

    • @CChissel
      @CChissel 5 років тому +23

      @Nunya Dibness Not sure if joking or...didn’t see the intro...

    • @helenspielbauer5401
      @helenspielbauer5401 5 років тому +52

      And the rabbit can change a tire!

    • @thermalreboot
      @thermalreboot 5 років тому +12

      Watching the intro I got a hankering for Hasenpfeffer.

    • @helenspielbauer5401
      @helenspielbauer5401 5 років тому +12

      @@thermalreboot Rabbit Stew! I only know that reference from the old Bugs Bunny cartoons. I'm old!

    • @milkcatdog394
      @milkcatdog394 5 років тому +16

      That’s a manly rabbit for ya 😍

  • @elisedulova6100
    @elisedulova6100 5 років тому +86

    I’ve been on and off listening to this all day, Watson is such a joy to listen to. Great interview, I really enjoy the flow of this one how it goes on and off topic of detransition so fluidly.

    • @bobobonobo759
      @bobobonobo759 5 років тому +9

      "I really enjoy the flow of this one how it goes on and off topic of detransition so fluidly." Me too. And I think it put Watson at ease to start out talking about history. This is one of my favorite BB interviews

  • @cosmicsquirrel7642
    @cosmicsquirrel7642 5 років тому +287

    Some of this rings like a bell. I dressed as a male on and off thru my late teens and my twenties. When you have been assaulted and treated badly by men avoiding that attention is attractive. It didn't seem to help me much. I'm glad my generation didn't have these options or who knows where I would be. Best of luck to Watson. There is a place for us all to find peace.

    • @Captain_MonsterFart
      @Captain_MonsterFart 5 років тому +28

      I had the same experience, though I mostly wasn't assaulted. I was followed and harassed quite a bit though. "Dressing down" in baggy shapeless clothes didn't make a bit of difference. I think I might have been taken in by this bullshit if I was a teenager right now.

    • @domfrancis3140
      @domfrancis3140 5 років тому +7

      @@Captain_MonsterFart I think you're right, maybe because if you mention any gender preference it no longer becomes yours to control, sadly. God bless you.

    • @domfrancis3140
      @domfrancis3140 5 років тому +5

      Thanks for posting , your post is very interesting.

    • @eminemilly
      @eminemilly 5 років тому +20

      Yeah sometimes people put on n weight for the same reason and then feel fear if they lose weight sometimes

    • @eminemilly
      @eminemilly 5 років тому +2

      @@Willowtree82 Some bpa free are just as bad or worse. they are just slightly altering the bpa but it's close enough

  • @catherineb8658
    @catherineb8658 3 роки тому +24

    I listened to this a year ago, my first exposure to the experience of a "detrans" person. It stuck with me for such a long time and I've always wondered how Watson is doing now. Still interesting to listen to a second time and a year later. I hope everything's going well for you Watson

    • @BenjaminABoyce
      @BenjaminABoyce  3 роки тому +13

      She is well, and joined me again not too many weeks back: ua-cam.com/video/CsT_Z8OFFdg/v-deo.html

    • @catherineb8658
      @catherineb8658 3 роки тому +6

      @@BenjaminABoyce thanks! Not sure how I missed that

  • @cdaz55
    @cdaz55 Рік тому +20

    Sinead sharing her experience and what she's learned in invaluable. I hope others who are going through similar problems will listen and learn. She is a wealth of knowledge. I hope she finds happiness and contentment in her life. She has so much to offer others from her experience.

  • @gazsibb
    @gazsibb 5 років тому +321

    What a wonderful interview.
    But OMG the activists are doing so much damage by closing down the discussion.
    Thank you both.

    • @ssharp755
      @ssharp755 5 років тому +3

      Nothing in the term and definition of activist requires free thinking, stop redefining terms because you might otherwise feel uncomfortable.

    • @RanEncounter
      @RanEncounter 5 років тому +11

      @@Willowtree82 You are literally making the no true scotsman logical fallacy. Most activist are not critical thinkers.

    • @MFYouTube683
      @MFYouTube683 3 роки тому +3

      @@ssharp755 well but activism -!especially for social justice- can’t call out other people for actions they then repeat themselves when it suits THEIR ideal with the argument «we never said we were good guys». Because that basically means that it’s just about winning at any cost, and let’s be honest: that sounds about right. See: JammieDodger who did a PHD in psychology on the transgender experience and holds a Dr title to his name: «what do Chromosomes matter, they are do small you can’t even see them». Remarkable eh? For an academic? If the future of science is pure identity politics in such crucial fields of study with hundreds of kids involved and basically no representative, peer-reviewed data so far.

  •  5 років тому +41

    Benjamin, I heard you say, "I just changed a tire". I thought you said, "I just changed attire". I love your word play.

    • @StreetsOfVancouverChannel
      @StreetsOfVancouverChannel 5 років тому +2

      bwwwahahahahaha

    •  5 років тому +4

      He thinks that is manly but to me it says he is too poor to afford AAA.

    • @crazycasy
      @crazycasy 5 років тому +2

      whatever it was it sounded manly AF.lol

    • @captainconundrum8463
      @captainconundrum8463 5 років тому +2

      Especially with how many times he stops an interview to ask if he should change his shirt.

    • @AsDeadAsDillinger
      @AsDeadAsDillinger 5 років тому +3

      He probably changed attire AFTER he changed a tyre.

  • @martymcfly88mph35
    @martymcfly88mph35 5 років тому +16

    Thank you Benji for helping these people tell their stories when no one else seems interested in it

  • @Kegz
    @Kegz 4 роки тому +38

    Very powerful interview

    • @merryntm5663
      @merryntm5663 4 роки тому +2

      damn i wouldnt have thought I'd see Kegz here

  • @clemenssh
    @clemenssh 5 років тому +44

    Thank you Benjamin for sharing this beautiful souls story. Wishing her all the best!!!😘🙏

  • @le77erem
    @le77erem 5 років тому +17

    Thank you for another great interview. So much of what Watson says chimes with my experience as a young person - not the transitioning, but the eating disorders, the hatred of the body, the anxiety of what might happen if I didn't keep tight control, the turning to alcohol (and drugs). Added to this was a lack of awareness of why I was acting like I was. I think that the self awareness and reflection of why we act as we do does not come to us until a lot of us are older, so when I did crazy things, it was because I was 'bad', and I could not see that I was reacting to the social pressures around me and the environment I was in. There are so many young people who flail around blindly through their youth and breath a sigh of relief when they level out in their mid 20's.

  • @HarryFlashmanVC
    @HarryFlashmanVC 2 роки тому +157

    Good God, as a 52 year old Scot I have to apologise to this person, we have let her down terribly. On my generation's watch we have allowed this madness to take over our society.

    • @randomroses1494
      @randomroses1494 2 роки тому

      They were very careful to keep people in the dark. It was all planned. TikTok is big part of it. Did you know TIKTOK is Chinese owned?

    • @kathleenking47
      @kathleenking47 Рік тому

      The younger they trans, the more they lose voice. When they do this older, they still sound like women
      I think, WOMEN ♀️need to start wearing dresses/skirts again
      Have small children see you in them
      Pants are only for certain times

    • @lindaredmon1810
      @lindaredmon1810 Рік тому +13

      Yes we have. God save the children

    • @lauriewashburn867
      @lauriewashburn867 11 місяців тому +4

      We've done it in my country too.im beganing to wonder if all this woke business is actually some sort of a malignant conspiracy

    • @kathleenbaker2654
      @kathleenbaker2654 10 місяців тому

      Research Agenda 2030

  • @leifanderson3692
    @leifanderson3692 5 років тому +21

    Thank you. You are the best long form journalist on this topic. Watson, be strong and thank you too!

  • @sunnyshowers7007
    @sunnyshowers7007 5 років тому +97

    I've heard from a few people now on your show that being on testosterone made it difficult for them to cry. That is so interesting...it would be amazing if someone did a study on transitioned and detransitioned etc. people - folks who've been both genders hormonally - to see what the mental and emotional differences actually are between men and women. The measurable, experienced differences.

    • @Neworldisordered
      @Neworldisordered 5 років тому +13

      You see it in aging men.

    • @CChissel
      @CChissel 5 років тому +5

      @MyLongestJourney The placebo could trigger an increase in testosterone production as well, and not just the “expectation” but I see no reason why both would not be valid.

    • @salvolondon
      @salvolondon 5 років тому +2

      Colette Showers now I now why I find hard to cry ( I’m a male ) .

    • @iainisbald
      @iainisbald 5 років тому +3

      You may be interested in this video. ua-cam.com/video/AnCdk_3YpPI/v-deo.html

    • @somethingclever8916
      @somethingclever8916 5 років тому +25

      This is why men don't show their emotions. This is why men brood when sad. They may cry but its brief.
      One way isn't better than the other. But both ways deserve the same compassion and encouragement

  • @NickyRikki
    @NickyRikki 3 роки тому +22

    She is inspiring and amazing. I love her logic and journey is incredible. Thank you for such a great interview and talk.

  • @lesliesykes-warren5664
    @lesliesykes-warren5664 5 років тому +12

    Another wonderful, level headed, sane interview. Thank you both for this honest and illuminating discussion.

  • @mamaalaska
    @mamaalaska Рік тому +3

    I sincerely want to say thank you to you Mr. Boyce, for bringing this multi faceted, intelligent, and spiritually beautiful young woman to the forefront. This has been a thoroughly and emotionally immersive interview. Please send my respect and care to Ms. Watson. Many blessings to her on her, continued journey. May life bring her many opportunities for joy and happiness.

  • @patwicksted7114
    @patwicksted7114 4 роки тому +7

    What an eloquent reflective young person. I am full of admiration. very moving testimony.

  • @DavidKirwanirl
    @DavidKirwanirl 5 років тому +22

    Enjoyable chat. Will be keeping an eye out for Watson in future.

  • @DavidSabine
    @DavidSabine 5 років тому +7

    You are a talented and compassionate interviewer. And Watson is courageously open. This conversation is important and thank you, both, for sharing.

    • @DavidSabine
      @DavidSabine 5 років тому

      Correction, at 57 minutes in, the interview is over. The dynamic changes here... To discussion. (which isn't bad, but IS different)

  • @marcomac8824
    @marcomac8824 5 років тому +20

    Watson, great interview. You have a remarkable level of insight, and the key is being kind to yourself and to do that you need to build your self esteem. Get yourself back to Uni, you’ve got a great contribution to make, look forward to hearing more from you!

  • @holachika5071
    @holachika5071 4 роки тому +6

    This discussion is heartbreaking and eye opening. Thank you for reporting. Fascinating guest!

  • @auntielaura2937
    @auntielaura2937 4 роки тому +12

    Thank you both for your bravery, beauty and humility.

  • @DefneDance
    @DefneDance 3 роки тому +16

    This woman gained so much wisdom in life. Hope she keeps sharing it. She sees the whole picture, very refreshing.

  • @janeeland4531
    @janeeland4531 2 роки тому +7

    I think you should definitely have your own channel as you are so knowledgeable about this subject and articulate, I just love ❤️ your perspective 😊

  • @constructor5008
    @constructor5008 3 роки тому +4

    You two are AMAIZING! I could stay listening to you for hours . ..
    It is a relief to see people being able to question I a smart and healthy way... Thank you so much!!!

  • @janmariolle
    @janmariolle 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you so much for exposing me to this wonderful woman. Watson has much healing to offer to others. She has transformed her suffering into compassion for herself and others.

  • @justlorelle4249
    @justlorelle4249 5 років тому +177

    My 15 year old daughter is at high school in Glasgow Scotland. There is a lot of information about and positive support for gender diversity in the school system.
    I think it's worrying that the transition process is being promoted for teens here.
    I think most kids with gender dysphoria issues do have other issues. Better councilling & therapies have to be offered & multiple problems have to be worked on separately.
    Mental health awareness may be going up, but the services aren't keeping up with the demand or offering accessible for all service.

    • @justlorelle4249
      @justlorelle4249 4 роки тому +18

      @@potapobob3769 I think it's the other way round, all the teens want to be unique individuals, & so they "choose" one of the other labels....it makes them "special" & people will treat them so. When she's brought kids home they've sometimes been introduced with their sexuality before their name. ie this is gay John 😱🤯
      The problem really is that gender and sexuality shouldn't be talking points or issues at all, shouldn't make any difference 🤷

    • @apebass2215
      @apebass2215 3 роки тому +9

      @@potapobob3769 no one is 'cis', no one is a subset of their own sex.

    • @queengoblin
      @queengoblin 3 роки тому +6

      The problem is that people just take at face value what they're told is moral & right & never do their own research or go within to see what is right for them. They just accept that "being pro trans" makes you a good and moral person and questioning that means you're an ignorant transphobe. Right wing. Religious. Close minded.
      The problem is whatever root of why people don't think for themselves. That's usually survival needs. Can't focus on thinking too hard about propaganda it you're constantly hustling to feed your family.
      The idea that poverty makes you moral is one of the most harmful idealologies on the planet. Constant grinding for your bread makes you an ineffective slave not a moral person.

    • @cashkitty3472
      @cashkitty3472 2 роки тому +5

      Mental health needs are going up because kids are being confused by this. They need to grow up without this

    • @lizhoward-k7627
      @lizhoward-k7627 Рік тому

      "High School" in Scotland? I didn't realise you have the Grammar School Sytem in Scotland....
      You learn something new every day .....

  • @LisaC-ic9yg
    @LisaC-ic9yg Рік тому +1

    Thanks for such a thoughtful interview and i appreciate the lack of politicizing the discussion and the posture of listening by Mr Boyce - so refreshing

  • @skeptigal8899
    @skeptigal8899 5 років тому +22

    She is so logical and matter of fact at this point. I’m sorry she had to go through all the drama and pain to get where she is in life now.I wonder how she would be now if people had not enabled her.

  • @julianamerz9493
    @julianamerz9493 Рік тому +2

    WOW. Incredible interview. THANK YOU!

  • @derewainka
    @derewainka 4 роки тому +5

    Love this scottish blunt sense of humour perspective! Thanks for sharing your story, your sense of humour. I'm amazed at the strength it must have taken to face up to all the emotional and social implications of the change back and how you have managed to untangle all your issues. You have all the guts!

  • @jackierandell1364
    @jackierandell1364 4 роки тому +7

    What a refreshing, honest conversation. Thank you Watson and Ben xx

  • @verarose6003
    @verarose6003 3 роки тому +6

    Excellent and such interesting discussion. Wishing the young lady much blessings and happiness in her path. She is so beautiful inside and out.

  • @silentforest2894
    @silentforest2894 5 років тому +3

    This is my first time watching this channel. I am compelled to say how attentive and compassionate the interviewer is. It’s very moving to see. I love how empathic and willing to listen he is.

  • @Neworldisordered
    @Neworldisordered 5 років тому +20

    Good interview Benjamin. Watson is a smart, thoughtful person who has gained perspective & wisdom after very tough circumstances. Btw..sharing the same mug?

  • @dragontoro
    @dragontoro 5 років тому +7

    Watson, thank you for your candour. You're helping so many young people.

  • @jongood9106
    @jongood9106 5 років тому +20

    This is the best interview I've seen on detransition.

  • @katelynkloeppel5243
    @katelynkloeppel5243 5 років тому +27

    Oh what a lovely voice😍 oh she's facinating, my heart skipped a beat, so lovely. Watson make a million videos, I could listen to you talk about anything!

  • @GB_Gummy
    @GB_Gummy 5 років тому +16

    Both the bunny and Watson have very soothing voices. I hope to see/ hear more from them in the future.

  • @onepartyroule
    @onepartyroule 4 роки тому +20

    I really appreciate how open and honest she is. I love the Glasgow accent too. I wish her all the best for the future.

  • @CharliThinks
    @CharliThinks 4 роки тому +7

    These stories are so important. Every act of courage, in speaking about their personal experience, gives others courage to do the same.

  • @helenamaoz4814
    @helenamaoz4814 5 років тому +8

    Wow, what a great interview, and such a intelligent, articulate young woman. Wishing her all the best.

  • @oldcronediy486
    @oldcronediy486 5 років тому +27

    Thank you so much for speaking out, this is such a tragic situation all the way around. You are such a wonderfully articulate speaker and I hope you continue to speak up when invited. This is social engineering at it's worst , it really reminds me of " A Brave New World", I would suggest this is being pushed in colleges and now middle school and high school to shut down all debate and investigation. Very , very sad...

  • @hydraxisfrimon9785
    @hydraxisfrimon9785 5 років тому +50

    Transitioning - like changing from one car to another that are both heading off a cliff. You're in a different looking vehicle but the distress is still the same because the mindset hasn't changed. You and your interviewees are doing a good job of by-passing the stifling effects of cancelling and no-platforming, thanks for providing some balance to the vitriol.

    • @thomasjust2663
      @thomasjust2663 5 років тому +7

      I personally know 2 trans people very well, they both had depressions and other issues before they transioned they tell me, after the transition they are still suffering from the more or less effects, one of them has told me several times she wishes she would return to being a boy because "being a woman is too much work" her own words!! the other sometimes tells me that at the end of the day, she is nothing but a gay guy dressed in woman's cloths, so both don't really believe they are girls at least not all of the time

    • @elizabethkelly8156
      @elizabethkelly8156 5 років тому +7

      The problem is that the original cases of gender dysphoria were people who felt internally like the other sex (X trapped in a Y body). When you have that condition you cannot comprehend yourself as anything other than the other sex already. When those people are confronted with the fact that their bodies and minds do not align it causes significant distress and confusion. The distress is not something they choose to have but is totally out of their control. Doctors have looked at many aspects to remove the associated distress and have found absolutely no treatment to work including treatments like electric shock therapy. The current diagnosis does not make feeling like you're stuck in the wrong body to be a mandatory experience. Instead just desiring to be the other sex is the only requirement. Due to the loose requirements lots of people are falling through the cracks of an overly expanded medical term. Unfortunately this leads to many people receiving the wrong treatment and getting side effects they absolutely did not ultimately want. The majority of people who transition in modern day rarely consider the effects in 20+ years, and do not think about how they will feel when they're older.

    • @MsGreenmermaid
      @MsGreenmermaid Рік тому

      ​@@potapobob3769but what IS the perception of yourself as the opposite sex/female? Like what exactly is the feeling of thinking you are a woman despite not ever being one/having no experience of being one? What drives it do you think? 🤔

  • @jardom7460
    @jardom7460 5 років тому +4

    Every now and again someone should bring up Benjamin's admirable openness, kindness, and strength of character. Someone else do it next time.

  • @SrAJGP
    @SrAJGP 3 роки тому +6

    What a pleasant, intelligent, eloquent person. Cannot believe how much damage the lack of councelling and professionalism can cause on such a person

  • @adrianaratsch-rivera7561
    @adrianaratsch-rivera7561 5 років тому +64

    To Ben Boyce: This is the best interview I have followed, and I ageee with so many points. This young woman is so super intelligent and has the ultimate insight and is also very courageous to detransition because I agree, it is a cult-like club to be trans! There is a hasty attitude now which I think is, too many people think to give rights to teens, is so necessary!!! They need counselling much more. Especially all the medical intervention which sounds so much like MDs are driven by money. 😱 I think, I was having gender dysphoria as a teen for some time and grew out of it, thank God. But many times, now looking back, it was comorbidity. Other problems where at play, and I am so glad I outgrew it naturally. If I was a teen now, I think I would have become a victim of the overacting scalpel friendly, capitalistic pill pushers that call themselves MDs. As a teen, our hormones are so double minded, female and male hormones go haywire, and for some more than others. At some point, I was mistaken as a boy, up to in my early twenties because of my not having curves. And I liked it because as a guitarist, we as girls/women face so much discrimination from both sides. Men are dominating the world ofguitar and just want to jump into bed with you and not share honest guitar talk, and women, not all, think you only play because you want to attract guys. Even as a classical guitarist! Fluctuating hormones are normal because humans have both inside their bodies and when they get activated during puberty, there is lots going on, tremendous activity for the sake of procreation! That's natural development and some women deny themselves to feel strong and "act like sissies" so as not to become unacceptable by family and classmates, but many women or men feel temporarily confused in their gender at some time because the hormones fluctuate back and forth and settle in their early 20ties. It's now sudden-onset acceptance of just doing the change-over and transition, on the expense of young people who are vulnerable to hormonal changes. My own comorbidity stemmed from having sociopathic relationships that, at the time, seemed I was in love or/and wanted attention, but now I realize, I was innocent and didn't know the difference between sincere love and sick love. So many girls have those weird relationships or were raped/molested, and now think to change the gender will solve problems and it's trendy and acceptable made so by celebrities. It is atrocious to see all this acceptance that they consider as normal which is not normal, except in a few cases. Some people are intersex but most just have fluctuating hormones. They need counselling. This certificate to get a gender accepting act is Hitleresk!!! I hope people wake up before we have a disaster generation. Keep on doing the interviews, I feel there is hope and healing. Tonight I saw some honest talk. Thank you.

    • @pjj.5649
      @pjj.5649 2 роки тому +1

      Very well said.

  • @eliara-thevoice8430
    @eliara-thevoice8430 Рік тому +1

    The truth is always refreshing. Its great to witness humans who have come through major challenges so well adjusted. Sinead is a pleasure to listen to. She has a beautiful balance of intelligence, wisdom, courage and humility. She is also articulate and warm.

  • @mtmcas
    @mtmcas 4 роки тому +34

    Great interview. How insane that Watson can’t talk about this stuff without being rebuffed for being anti trans. She has VALUABLE INFORMATION not just about de/transitioning etc but about life.

    • @mtmcas
      @mtmcas 3 роки тому

      @fiery but mostly peaceful wow, 1 year ago I learned about this. And it’s still gaining steam. Happy anniversary?

  • @knit1purl1
    @knit1purl1 5 років тому +9

    Just finished watching. Excellent interview and interviewee. Lets hope this eventually implodes.

  • @VB_Indiana
    @VB_Indiana 2 роки тому +3

    I know I'm commenting 2+ years after you made this video, but I'm so glad I stumbled upon it. I admire that both of you are earnestly examining problems of ideologies taking precedence over the actual experiences -- re trans people, issues of racism, of economics, etc. It's not actually helpful to hide behind ideologies. Thank you for being so frank and vulnerable.

  • @nan3271
    @nan3271 Рік тому +2

    What a lovely face! Absolutely beautiful. What an intelligent and articulate conversation. Thank you.

  • @kirstinadam9949
    @kirstinadam9949 5 років тому +7

    Lovely interview. What a wise and articulate young woman.

  • @shireenmcquade1951
    @shireenmcquade1951 5 років тому +42

    Watson, you have inspired me. I wish I could talk as calmly, kindly, deliberatively as you on subjects I feel strongly about. My concern is the harm to young children and teens and the effect of hormones, hormone blockers, and surgeries on such young people. And the culpability of parents and especially the doctors who violate their oath to first do no harm.
    Like you, I am no a fan of religion. I’m agnostic from Muslim parents. But you are so polite about it. I will try to keep my attacks on religion to the religious to myself in the future.
    You are so articulate and smart. Please keep speaking.

    • @pollyester6639
      @pollyester6639 3 роки тому +5

      Nicely put maybe you’re calmer than you think

  • @ginalouise3478
    @ginalouise3478 4 роки тому +7

    Thank you Watson for sharing your story.

  • @gin1740
    @gin1740 3 роки тому +4

    Watson, you are a brave women and I wish you the best in your life's path. Thanks for standing up and giving evidence to your experiences that will help other young people.

  • @raqhelreklaw1295
    @raqhelreklaw1295 5 років тому +3

    Bless your heart and courage to talk about your painful story to help others. Peace and love 🥰

  • @petalparker5
    @petalparker5 5 років тому +2

    What a wonderful interview so worth listening to. Watson articulates her experience so intelligently and sensitively. Thanks so much to you both, we can all learn from each other.

  • @elizabethdavid9964
    @elizabethdavid9964 Рік тому +4

    I think the point made about many girls or women having to present in a more masculine way to feel safer is sad. It shows the truth about the dangerous society we live in. I think we fail our children as a society.Thank you for this interview and the honesty.

  • @pollyester6639
    @pollyester6639 3 роки тому +3

    Wonderful interview between two sensitive kind souls - how wonderful to learn from these two. The story is distressing and we are looking the other way because the path of resistance comes with risk - so wrong

  • @monikaselimovic
    @monikaselimovic 5 років тому +4

    Such an amazing interview. What a clear mental clarity in explaining all of this. Watson is a very touching and beautiful soul. So glad she did this interview, really important voice in today's climate.

  • @MiddlePath33
    @MiddlePath33 5 років тому +90

    I want to be her friend. She is so intriguing. People who suffer are such deep wells and have so much to offer in way of wisdom. I could listen to her all day. But I also wish I could just wrap my arms around her and give her a big hug and make it all better for her. ❤️ if only things were that simple in this world.
    I loved the part about being an emotional wreck after coming off T. 🤪
    I think I have always had hyper female emotional tendencies. My boyfriend loves it. (Not) We could be talking about anything and I’ll catch catch a whiff of a familiar smell and link it to a memory and I’ll change the subject (seemingly randomly) to a memory from childhood.
    He thinks I’m crazy.
    Hormones are powerful. How enlightening to have experienced both and have the two perspectives.
    Keep your head up. There are so many who see what’s happening and are vocal. We just don’t have a big platform. I used to be a liberal. But when I drew the line at altering children permanently I am now considered a conservative bigot. Such a strange turn of events...

    • @MiddlePath33
      @MiddlePath33 5 років тому +11

      是我
      Right? I can not help it.

    • @domfrancis3140
      @domfrancis3140 5 років тому +6

      @@MiddlePath33 and why should you?
      Love your main comment great to read a message from someone who has compassion and morals.

  • @phyllislovelace8151
    @phyllislovelace8151 Рік тому

    Thank you Benjamin & guest for this measured but honest conversation which one sincerely hopes will move the dial towards more dialogue

  • @joan3891
    @joan3891 3 роки тому +10

    I’m mortified there is legislation decreasing age. If anything, they should increase the age to 21 so that the kid can buy more time to think it through! Therapy until 21 sounds like a better route.

    • @AshleyWilliams-xq7lj
      @AshleyWilliams-xq7lj 3 роки тому +3

      Exactly. One of my friends socially transitioned at 23 but got cold feet. Several years later, she's so happy she didn't do anything physical. Disturbingly, no therapist tried to figure out why she felt dysphoria. She had to figure it all out on her own.

  • @TheTank19881
    @TheTank19881 3 роки тому +1

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: Benjamin and his guests should be required viewing! Amazing interview!

  • @hansmeiser32
    @hansmeiser32 5 років тому +11

    1:53:35 "haaah, this is a good conversation"
    Indeed, it was. Enjoyed every second of it.

  • @sarahhhh775
    @sarahhhh775 4 роки тому +2

    What a fantastic interview. Thankyou. Two lovely people. xx

  • @l.s.sharrow1318
    @l.s.sharrow1318 5 років тому +59

    Excellent interview. I'm one of those women that, while influenced by radical feminism, agrees that the one with the power is the one with the $$$. The homeless man on the street does NOT oppress the Queen.
    The one thing I would disagree with is calling a man a 'she.' "She" didn't rape women in prison, HE did.

    • @Nothinggirl
      @Nothinggirl 4 роки тому +1

      I’m very similar! I am certainly class first and into some radical feminism. But I think patriarchy is so intertwined with most aspects of society that it affects everything. And I think it’s so normalized we overlook the ways in which patriarchy hurts us every day.
      And no homeless man will ever oppress the queen of course. If he has male privilege (which he does) doesn’t make him bad or an oppressor. It just means he won’t be facing the systemic issue of sexism. Imagine putting them on the same pedestal, both either are homeless or both are king and queen. Then we see gender can certainly impact their lives. While I am still class first I grew up in a religion and culture where women are second class and I can’t ignore it (and the ways it intersects with capitalism and class)

    • @Nothinggirl
      @Nothinggirl 4 роки тому +2

      @Charlie Francis there is no systemic structure of sex oppression against men but yes men absolutely do suffer at the hands of patriarchy as well, in many ways. Privilege doesn’t mean your life is automatically easy or improved (this is why I don’t like the word actually) it just means generally, it is something that will not hold you back. Again there are multiple intersections to identities and labels. I don’t care if a homeless man has male privilege, which he does. It’s okay to say yes this person has this, but in many cases it doesn’t matter. I am class first. There are more important things which is why people should look at the bigger picture and the other factors that influence a persons life

    • @Nothinggirl
      @Nothinggirl 4 роки тому

      @Charlie Francis I can’t think of a better word to be honest. And in my culture and where I am from that certainly is the case. The great thing is I have traveled to many, many countries so I speak on a global scale. I have seen too many ways in which women suffer because they are women. Feminism has always been discredited or mocked. What did they do when women tried to vote? Is it really divisiveness between the sexes increasing? One or two generations ago half the population didn’t have a fifth of the options and freedom they do now. Maybe they’re just speaking up now. Intersectionalism is precisely why I would never look at a homeless man and think he has male privilege and that’s it. Again you look at the bigger picture. And is it really divisive rhetoric? Or maybe you just don’t like to hear it? Again I am not concerned with sex or race or religion on a personal level because I am focused on class, but I think it’s alright to acknowledge truths like “privilege”. But I’m also not crazy and would never bring it up just because lol

    • @Nothinggirl
      @Nothinggirl 4 роки тому

      @Charlie Francis oh I totally understand that! That is why I also bring up my frequent travelling. I’ve seen it in many different cultures. And yes I agree. But if it’s one thing I dislike it is liberals and I view a lot of 4th wave stuff as liberal bull. i am very left but I do really dislike identity politics and performative social justice. Both sexes do suffer but I will always maintain that it is under patriarchy that they do. Being exposed to both western and non western feminism I think women everywhere still ultimately need it.
      I actually am very familiar with incels because I always had a morbid curiosity! I used to lurk the subreddit frequently. They are created for a multitude of reasons. In some ways right but in many delusional. They would get so much further not focusing on women. You wouldn’t believe the crazy stuff I read there! Imagine walking by a man like that in real life.
      Ah yes I see that too. I have a real problem with taking online stuff seriously. Yes it is real and people think that way, but I often don’t come across it in real life. I really think it is bitterness and hurt on their part. We are all prone to it.

    • @niecedspain3568
      @niecedspain3568 3 роки тому

      @@Nothinggirl I think when our politicians have us so focused on things that are sub issues like something like “patriarchy” we miss the forest for the trees. What people are not seeing is that it’s the politicians period (men and women) that are trying to oppress the masses. We have been lulled into a false sense of security that our world is what they have told us it is. We have been manipulated into seeing what they want us to and thinking the way they want us to snd to focus on anything other than the manipulation they are performing on us. We are all under the spell of these politicians and media. They have pulled the wool over our eyes and we are all in the grasp of communism almost as much as the Chinese, North Korean and Cuban citizens! We though we were different but we were deluded!

  • @joannewainwright9127
    @joannewainwright9127 4 роки тому +3

    Such a wonderful interview. Thankyou Benjamin and Watson.

  • @celandinesteenekamp5880
    @celandinesteenekamp5880 2 роки тому +7

    What an articulate attractive delightful intelligent human being this young woman is. All the best. Keep sharing your journey. It is important for all of us to understand this paradigm shift in human gender experience. If we don't talk about it how do we learn about it?

  • @mihrethagos1513
    @mihrethagos1513 5 років тому +33

    I have compassion and respect for her for being bold. It is all money driven and the evil people are benefiting by hurting young, confused and mentally ill people.
    They are not being told that the medical transition is permanent and irreversible.
    My hurt goes out for these kids who are being taken advantage off.
    Lord have mercy on us.

  • @sunyangsghost9523
    @sunyangsghost9523 5 років тому +4

    Benjamins glasses keep steaming up. I never expected the void of space to be humid

  • @suigeneris2663
    @suigeneris2663 5 років тому +7

    Great interview. What a lovely person!

  • @markkavanagh7377
    @markkavanagh7377 5 років тому +4

    Excellent conversation, thanks, hope it happens again.

  • @RosannaBasilisco-v1n
    @RosannaBasilisco-v1n Рік тому

    I feel you are a beautiful soul, use you voice to help others. Bless your heart, great interview❤️😊

  • @misterdaz1018
    @misterdaz1018 5 років тому +39

    I finally felt like a man at the age of 29 having changed a tire in sub-zero temperatures with only the moon to light what I was doing.

    • @DoctorHver
      @DoctorHver 4 роки тому +1

      @strontiumXnitrate Is Biology lost on you as its impossible for male primates to give birth.

    • @DoctorHver
      @DoctorHver 4 роки тому +1

      @strontiumXnitrate I see, its unfortunate when comments get removed as when someone else is reading then they only get half the story. Sometimes itsn't obvious as you just described so since it was sarcastic comment I do like your sarcastism. :) but in other case its obvious that something was removed if names of someone is mentioned in respond but the comments by that other person are no were to be found.

    • @leeallen3633
      @leeallen3633 7 місяців тому +1

      For me it was at the age of 26 when I used ratchet straps to move an ikea bed frame.

  • @douglasmowat7143
    @douglasmowat7143 4 роки тому +3

    I listened to this sometime ago and listened again. I consider it important conversation Thank you Watson Thank you Ben

  • @Fee_V
    @Fee_V 5 років тому +3

    So loved this conversation. Really great guest. x

  • @es533
    @es533 Рік тому +1

    First thing i thought when i saw the video scrolling- what a pretty girl. I am 100% normal and it was my objective reaction. Wishing you all the best and thank you for speaking up.

  • @catrionanicthamhais
    @catrionanicthamhais 5 років тому +3

    Another great and moving conversation. Thanks!

  • @sheilawalker8501
    @sheilawalker8501 5 років тому +2

    Thank you for this very well done interview. And thank you Watson for being so open and honest. I have learned much from both of you.

  • @rinwesley3092
    @rinwesley3092 5 років тому +17

    This was such an illuminating talk. She's such an intelligent and fascinating person I'd love to have a conversation with. Best of luck to her.

  • @broeklien3817
    @broeklien3817 5 років тому +12

    Such a careful and respectfull speaker. Nice to see that the knowledge she gained didnt radicalize her but it made her wizer.
    I hope it makes her a happier person too

  • @carolynbrightfield8911
    @carolynbrightfield8911 5 років тому +2

    Another brilliant, nuanced interview, Benjamin. Thankyou.

  • @aliceinwonderland1120
    @aliceinwonderland1120 Рік тому +2

    The reality is a person cannot change their sex. You can have cosmetic surgeries and you can take cross sex hormones (both with considerable risks). But you cannot change your gender. I love the clarity of thought this mature, intelligent person shows.
    It is an indictment of our culture that a young girl sees male qualities as superior. This motivation for sex changes is really disheartening. The other motivation is equally sad: that young girls feel safer acting as boys.
    In listening to detransitioners, it is incredible that they have to invent their own self therapies to heal their emotional and psychological issues. It’s insane that the medical establishment can mutilate them, but cannot offer them compassionate psychiatric care.

  • @annemarie.moore5086
    @annemarie.moore5086 5 років тому +3

    Fascinating and very concerning discussion. Highly intelligent, thoughtful and informative observations from Watson.