I just tested Brave against PaleMoon with a few tabs open and the latter did much better. With only one tab open, they look to have the same effect, though. PaleMoon is a knock-off of FF...kind of.
Very useful and thanks so much for the tip. I changed the hardware acceleration setting and also found a noticeable improvement in responsiveness of Firefox. Now, I can only wonder why the setting is not default or at least a on and off setting? Cheers!
I am sorry but you are wrong. Firefox does not support any kind of hardware accelerated decoding of VIDEO on any GPU (Intel, AMD, NVIDIA) on Linux. What you just enabled there was hardware acceleration for the browser, not for video. You could do so as well on Chromium. Chromium can be patched to enable full hardware decoding of video by the use of VA-API only on Intel and AMD GPUs, BUT those 4K UA-cam videos are encoded with VP9, not h.264 or h.265, which means that in order to enable 4K hardware video decoding on Linux, you need an Intel Kaby Lake or newer CPU with an iGPU with the libva-intel-driver OR an AMD Raven Ridge APU/Navi GPU with the libva-mesa-driver and a patched Chromium browser. Your CPU usage is probably lower because of the GPU accelerated browser operation, not because the video decoding is accelerated or done in hardware.
The main issue here with chromium is that Chromium doesn't have video acceleration. However, Chromium with vaapi enabled should fix this. If you are using Manjaro or any arch based distro, Chromium with VAAPI is available in Aur.
Hi Simon. Could be, also might depend on using Windows or Linux. On Linux both Intel and AMD drivers are baked into the kernel so will likely have the same defaults. For Nvidia the drivers are closed source proprietary so it might well have a different default.
The lack of support for dns (Doh / Dot) and a night mode make the chromium ugly, they could leave with a better performance blocking the cryptominer too, so many custom scripts that could be implemented natively (But as it does not, I continue using extensions that manage these javascripts)
thank you so much for the information. the video that I was playing on youtube seems glitch/laggy. but after activate this be better. no laggy and less glitch. I run on void linux - i3wm - on old thinkpad x220.
My Android just said Waterfox is not compatible with my phone. It began installing, then stopped. Waterfox on Windows is slower than Yandex, yet I have no bookmarks or extensions on Waterfox and many in Yandex (chromium-base).
I was fighting with that crap more than a year on my i5-6200u . 90% of a time you spent in browser and unfortunately video encoding and even more complicated websites in javascript in browsers works TERRIBLE to the point that I even startrd considering switch to Windows on mac. After 4 years with Linux. Unfortunately browser support/drivers on Linux (I tested this on manjaro) don't work well compared to this support we get or Windows. I installed even chromium with vaapi, and ensured I had all intell drivers. Even when browser was showing that is using hardware acceleration I didn't see any improvements :/
Yes.... Same with my pentium G4400... And it's really even worser with Wayland on fedora 34. I just can't turn it on and it shows unavailable in all chromium based browsers.... And that single thing made me switch to windows.....
@@sidharthgkumar4029 probably not? But the fact is that with this new processors are really REALLY fast comparing to my old i5 6th gen intel. Everything is working blazingly fast. Before I struggled to open one 1080p movie because fan kicks in. On this processors I manged to open 12 movies from UA-cam at the same time also few in 4k lol and that was not a big deal... like 35% of cpu usage only
I will newer use Firefox.Uninstalled it,and only use Chromium,or Chromium based browsers,like Iridium,Vivaldi,or Brave.Mozilla wants to spy on the user,and blocks the security extensions.
@@marclili4491 you're misunderstanding that "extensions" for those Google-based browsers are at the mercy of the core code. Chrome/Chromium etc. have one purpose: to mine user data. Otherwise they wouldn't exist.
I never had any system freezes before i used chrome on linux. Random freezes 3 4 times a day. Switched to firefox and have no problems.
I just tested Brave against PaleMoon with a few tabs open and the latter did much better. With only one tab open, they look to have the same effect, though. PaleMoon is a knock-off of FF...kind of.
Very useful and thanks so much for the tip. I changed the hardware acceleration setting and also found a noticeable improvement in responsiveness of Firefox. Now, I can only wonder why the setting is not default or at least a on and off setting? Cheers!
I am sorry but you are wrong. Firefox does not support any kind of hardware accelerated decoding of VIDEO on any GPU (Intel, AMD, NVIDIA) on Linux. What you just enabled there was hardware acceleration for the browser, not for video. You could do so as well on Chromium.
Chromium can be patched to enable full hardware decoding of video by the use of VA-API only on Intel and AMD GPUs, BUT those 4K UA-cam videos are encoded with VP9, not h.264 or h.265, which means that in order to enable 4K hardware video decoding on Linux, you need an Intel Kaby Lake or newer CPU with an iGPU with the libva-intel-driver OR an AMD Raven Ridge APU/Navi GPU with the libva-mesa-driver and a patched Chromium browser.
Your CPU usage is probably lower because of the GPU accelerated browser operation, not because the video decoding is accelerated or done in hardware.
I tried it and still got crappy performance
@@marcin6386same here.. even with vaapi ppa performance is much worse than windows
mine's worse, i get video stuttering issues.
my FF already had it enabled, but I tend to play around with settings and forget what I've done a few months later
The main issue here with chromium is that Chromium doesn't have video acceleration. However, Chromium with vaapi enabled should fix this. If you are using Manjaro or any arch based distro, Chromium with VAAPI is available in Aur.
Is the default acceleration setting possibly related to which graphics drivers you have? Intel, AMD, Nvidea?
Hi Simon. Could be, also might depend on using Windows or Linux. On Linux both Intel and AMD drivers are baked into the kernel so will likely have the same defaults. For Nvidia the drivers are closed source proprietary so it might well have a different default.
The lack of support for dns (Doh / Dot) and a night mode make the chromium ugly, they could leave with a better performance blocking the cryptominer too, so many custom scripts that could be implemented natively (But as it does not, I continue using extensions that manage these javascripts)
thank you so much for the information. the video that I was playing on youtube seems glitch/laggy. but after activate this be better. no laggy and less glitch. I run on void linux - i3wm - on old thinkpad x220.
wall paper link...?
What about waterfox ?
My Android just said Waterfox is not compatible with my phone. It began installing, then stopped. Waterfox on Windows is slower than Yandex, yet I have no bookmarks or extensions on Waterfox and many in Yandex (chromium-base).
I was fighting with that crap more than a year on my i5-6200u . 90% of a time you spent in browser and unfortunately video encoding and even more complicated websites in javascript in browsers works TERRIBLE to the point that I even startrd considering switch to Windows on mac. After 4 years with Linux. Unfortunately browser support/drivers on Linux (I tested this on manjaro) don't work well compared to this support we get or Windows. I installed even chromium with vaapi, and ensured I had all intell drivers. Even when browser was showing that is using hardware acceleration I didn't see any improvements :/
Yes.... Same with my pentium G4400... And it's really even worser with Wayland on fedora 34. I just can't turn it on and it shows unavailable in all chromium based browsers.... And that single thing made me switch to windows.....
@@sidharthgkumar4029 - I resolved the issues by buying new laptop ;-) Now everything is blazingly fast with amd 4800h :D
@@marcin6386 Okay... well now does it support hardware acceleration on your new laptop?...
@@sidharthgkumar4029 probably not? But the fact is that with this new processors are really REALLY fast comparing to my old i5 6th gen intel. Everything is working blazingly fast. Before I struggled to open one 1080p movie because fan kicks in. On this processors I manged to open 12 movies from UA-cam at the same time also few in 4k lol and that was not a big deal... like 35% of cpu usage only
@@marcin6386 12 movies LOLL
Which Distro it is?
KDE Neon
@@redrobbosworkshop Thank You💜💜💜
In my system Firefox is horrible. I use chromium
Could well be the case. The video is 18 months old so different versions now.
@@redrobbosworkshop I haven't use Firefox for a long time. I think now they might fix the problems. Thank you sir. I shall try the new versions.
I hate the new look of Chromium. Biggest reason for me not to use it. And the fact that I'm a Firefox user since version 1.
chromium is a virus tour first shows no symptoms then slows the computer down, credit card steals your information, crashes last
Wat
I will newer use Firefox.Uninstalled it,and only use Chromium,or Chromium based browsers,like Iridium,Vivaldi,or Brave.Mozilla wants to spy on the user,and blocks the security extensions.
That's your choice, but all browsers especially those based on chromium will attempt to gather data.
@@redrobbosworkshop Maybe but those (Chromium based ones) wont block me to install my security extensions.
@@marclili4491 you're misunderstanding that "extensions" for those Google-based browsers are at the mercy of the core code. Chrome/Chromium etc. have one purpose: to mine user data. Otherwise they wouldn't exist.
@@LearnAtMyExpense And now Firefox does the same thing.
@@marclili4491 Tick it off in preferences.