Why Ween's Birthday boy is the perfect sad song

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  • Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
  • I talk about something dear to me
    Songs in order of appearance:
    Ocean man
    Gabrielle
    Jailbreak (Thin Lizzy)
    Slow down boy
    Everybody wants to rule the world (Tears for fears)
    Ween - Baby bitch (live)
    Ween Birthday boy (live)
    Don't look back in anger (mtv acoustic)
    Birthday boy ween
    Waveshaper - You are the end
    Binding of Isaac - hereafter
    Please support those people

КОМЕНТАРІ • 106

  • @WarforParadise
    @WarforParadise 3 роки тому +138

    Ween is the most underrated band of all time. Every Album that they have made are all true masterpieces.

    • @spaceKadz
      @spaceKadz Рік тому +1

      I wish I could buy the CDs, but they're $15-$40 lol.

    • @cannedsas
      @cannedsas 4 місяці тому

      I personally wouldn’t call Pure Guava or La Cucaracha a masterpiece

    • @vivimos_en_una_sociedad7758
      @vivimos_en_una_sociedad7758 2 місяці тому

      ​@@cannedsasthat's cause you're a braindead tool

  • @johnschnettler1236
    @johnschnettler1236 Рік тому +41

    This song is actually about Gener’s girlfriend before Sarah, Barrett Christy. If that name doesn’t sound familiar, she’s one of the most accomplished professional female snowboarders of all time. Way to go Gener, Barrett was a babe!

  • @rettymartinez
    @rettymartinez 2 роки тому +33

    Finding a 12 minute video about my favorite song is the best thing that could've happened today

  • @ReneSkunk777MC
    @ReneSkunk777MC 4 роки тому +88

    You're absolutely right. Ween doesn't get enough credit that they deserved and I extremely agree with you. Any person who listens to "Ocean Man" and just "Ocean Man" is (I guess) missing out their repertoire.

    • @milkpants
      @milkpants  4 роки тому +9

      Oh totally but I'm glad it's there at least, ocean man is a great way for somebody to have their curiosity peaked just enough for them to explore the band. Realistically it's their only commercial hit top so for alot of people it may be the only gateway.

    • @MeanManu
      @MeanManu 3 роки тому +4

      WEEN is god !!!! ... actually Boognish is God !!

    • @bustedxpils1288
      @bustedxpils1288 Рік тому

      Crazy they made that song I didn’t know till today 😭

  • @thehonorablereverendaddiso1943
    @thehonorablereverendaddiso1943 4 роки тому +52

    GodWeenSatan is my first and favourite album by Ween. They may have made better, or more tight albums after this, but it holds too great of a spot in my memory to be knocked off this ranking. Thank you so dearly for this

    • @milkpants
      @milkpants  4 роки тому +6

      Hey man of course, I realized there just weren't many song analysis videos on ween at all on youtube and I wanted to have at least one on one of their flagship songs. Thank you for watching

    • @thehonorablereverendaddiso1943
      @thehonorablereverendaddiso1943 4 роки тому +3

      @@milkpants Np, Dudemang

    • @shartbake1134
      @shartbake1134 3 роки тому +1

      I love Pure Guava

    • @nyancat7053
      @nyancat7053 2 роки тому +1

      @@shartbake1134 The pod is way better htan Pure guava (In my opinion

    • @seacrawlerrecords623
      @seacrawlerrecords623 Рік тому

      It's gotta be The Pod or Chocolate & Cheese for me

  • @area51l
    @area51l Рік тому +6

    Another key part of the raw emotion is not just in the lyrics, but in the delivery. The way Gener has this sort of pain and whininess to his voice... you can FEEL it. And the way the notes descend during the "I'm going down" is such a beautiful example of word painting - when the music reflects the literal meaning of the lyrics.

  • @malwre_android1617
    @malwre_android1617 3 роки тому +33

    Wow. Listening to Birthday Boy without that *deep fried* amp noise for the first time was very strange.

  • @TouchDirt
    @TouchDirt 3 місяці тому +3

    My now wife flew with me out to Oregon to see em play a few years back. She'd never seen ween before and had never seen me cry before, that changed real quick as soon as Birthday Boy started.

  • @eddiedingle767
    @eddiedingle767 Рік тому +12

    Birthday Boy got me through a big breakup. It hits me deep

  • @ianblackburn2645
    @ianblackburn2645 3 роки тому +20

    When cup man started playing I thought I clicked a different video by accident

  • @eequalsmc4614
    @eequalsmc4614 3 роки тому +23

    Birthday Boy is perfection

  • @rustorian
    @rustorian Рік тому +6

    Love this song. Birthday Boy, it got me through a breakup which took place right what do you know right before my birthday. Ween was one of the few bands I could listen to without thinking about her because she never liked them. So I was listening to GWS and that song came on and hit me right in the heart.

  • @malwre_android1617
    @malwre_android1617 3 роки тому +32

    "Conveying the emotion of crying, conveying the emotion of being at your lowest, conveying the emotion of being a disorganized mess because your world is crumbling about, is not easy to write down because you can't write it down in the moment (...) To convey such an emotion through writing, let alone sound, is a pretty tall order in it of itself"
    You perfectly described why me and many others love Weezer's Pinkerton. It's such an emotionally raw album, where Rivers' personal life was crumbling around him: relationship issues, trouble with his bandmates, depression and loneliness, physical pain (due to the recovery from surgery on his leg, which had him record with needles sticking through it), it all leaves with an album that, at first glance, seems like a typical "Tfw no GF" album, but when you get deeper into it, you feel Rivers' pain and emotion running through every track (specially in my two favorite moments of the album, "Across the Sea", where being at the bottom of the barrel, he recieves a letter from a fangirl, and clings onto its affection for dear life as the only light of his existence; and "Butterfly", where he looks back at the album, and all the people he has hurt due to his selfishness and his misery, and apologizes to them and himself).
    I know this is a video about Ween, and I thank you for covering what's easily the best song in this insane record, while also tackling why it's the best song, something I could never truly put into words.

    • @WellfullyAw
      @WellfullyAw Рік тому

      Pinkerton is an amazing record

  • @tunedime
    @tunedime 3 роки тому +32

    Tried and true is fire aswell

  • @rts45hardison62
    @rts45hardison62 6 місяців тому +3

    Weens song The Argus pulled me out of a Coma I had been in for 17 days.

  • @cannedsas
    @cannedsas 4 місяці тому +2

    Gene’s performance of Birthday Boy on their final show before the band’s breakup is gut wrenching.

  • @VX-3000
    @VX-3000 Місяць тому +1

    Dude, what a great breakdown. I've found my way back to this song a few times, and always at poignant ones -- there's something almost frantic or manic in its nearly subdued (albeit busy) presentation, almost like speaking through white noise or "echoing" from a void where no sound can be returned. There's something so raw and tragically real about that, but you'd have to go through it in your own life to know it. And just the sheer confliction and confusion in the lyrics alone... I'd put this up there with anything from 'Blood on the Tracks' as one of the greatest heartbreak songs ever.
    Check out the Elliott Smith and Mary-Lou Lord live cover :)

  • @comicmischief3548
    @comicmischief3548 5 місяців тому +6

    Noel Gallagher did write don’t look back in anger and all the other oasis songs. Liam Gallagher is the main singer. That is one of the few hits that Noel sang, I understand it’s confusing with them being brothers. No hate I love ween! Great video.

  • @DankBlastBeats
    @DankBlastBeats 2 роки тому +9

    Ween - The best band you've never heard of.

  • @rowecofilms6788
    @rowecofilms6788 Рік тому +5

    Birthday Boy always gave me a very Guided By Voices vibe

    • @oggymation3875
      @oggymation3875 3 місяці тому

      yess! very reminiscent of “smothered in hugs” in my eyes another song that destroys me

  • @ChingoChango
    @ChingoChango 3 роки тому +11

    a song born from true sorrow... how can you not love it!

  • @afxmnstr
    @afxmnstr 3 роки тому +10

    12 country greats is a powerful breakup album.

  • @Outliers4Life
    @Outliers4Life 2 роки тому +6

    this song gives me the same feeling that Self Control by Frank Ocean does. Its guitar driven and very minimalistic. and the lyrics are not triumphant at all. beautiful shit. also love how Baby Bitch references this song. gotta love when artists do that.

  • @DingaLingu
    @DingaLingu 7 місяців тому +2

    Ween has so many biblical and esoteric messages and themes hidden in their poetry its magick

  • @jergenx
    @jergenx 2 роки тому +4

    I had these emotions when I first heard it too, thanks for putting words to it

  • @stitchball3698
    @stitchball3698 10 місяців тому +1

    Goddamn. When that binding of Isaac track hit I fell in love man, favorite game of all time with my favorite band. Keep up the great work

  • @NipplesOfDestiny
    @NipplesOfDestiny 2 місяці тому +1

    My top Ween songs agter listening for 20 years (excluding hits)
    1) Movin' away
    2) Big Jilm
    3) Object
    4) Ice Castles
    5) Spinal Meningitis

  • @eggie6417
    @eggie6417 9 місяців тому +2

    I got emotional whip lash when I first heard Birthday Boy, in a very goofy album, it was weird hearing a very slow and melancholy song

  • @22zanners
    @22zanners Рік тому +1

    Got to hear it live in Madison last week, I cried a little.

  • @anthonybernero9720
    @anthonybernero9720 Рік тому +3

    This song relates to any broken relationship. But for me, my best friend told me that he didn't want to be my friend anymore. Coincidentally, this was also on my birthday, close to two years ago, now.
    He broke my heart, man. And it still hurts so goddamn much.
    I saw Ween last week in WI, (celebrating my birthday) and they just had to fucking play it, didn't they. People were all around me slow dancing n shit, and there I was in the center, just sobbing and crying my eyes out. I broke down again when they played Fluffy at the end. It was so powerful, and it brought up the same emotions. It wasn't until later that I learned it's about Dean's dog who is no longer with him. But that night, it was about my dawg who is no longer with me.
    I know that I should call him, but I don't know what to say. And I'm afraid of what he will say.
    It just really, really sucks, y'know?

    • @milkpants
      @milkpants  Рік тому

      Thanks for sharing, songs like this can be really impactful to an individual and it's always nice seeing what it means to different people.
      But if you're still contemplating calling them, I think you should, life is too short for words to go unspoken, and rejection, while unpleasant, lasts but a moment.
      Cheers!

    • @anthonybernero9720
      @anthonybernero9720 Рік тому +1

      @@milkpants Thanks, mang.
      I don't think I have any more tears to shed, what have I got to lose?
      I'll call him this weekend.

    • @milkpants
      @milkpants  Рік тому

      @@anthonybernero9720 I'm glad to hear, I hope all goes well!

    • @vivimos_en_una_sociedad7758
      @vivimos_en_una_sociedad7758 2 місяці тому

      ​@@anthonybernero9720get trolled

  • @LunaCypher334
    @LunaCypher334 Рік тому +1

    Thanks I love your look on this song! It's meant a lot to me, even more because there was a gwar cover of it, and gwar was a band my early 20's heartbreak person liked as well. It's crazy how personal it feels to me, but you're right it's a in-the-moment heartbreak that so many people can relate to, and that's what makes it such a great song. On my way to listen to it now, but I saw your video, thanks for making!

  • @carolineday1481
    @carolineday1481 2 роки тому +4

    How the fuck did I find my exact fucking niche u captured it so well

  • @scherryvalentine9673
    @scherryvalentine9673 11 місяців тому +1

    There is Ween coloring book out there somewhere and one of the pages is Birthday Boy with Gener in a birthday hat with stomach wide open and guts falling out. It’s not as disturbing to look at, as this description sounds.

  • @shartbake1134
    @shartbake1134 3 роки тому +9

    I listened to birthday boy while coming down on mushrooms and it felt like it took 3 hours for the song to finish.

  • @chumlife
    @chumlife 8 місяців тому +2

    4:56 That's Enough, Milk Pants.

    • @milkpants
      @milkpants  8 місяців тому +1

      Sorry.

    • @chumlife
      @chumlife 8 місяців тому +1

      @@milkpantsShhhhhhh. Baby's Sleeping.😮‍💨😮‍💨

    • @milkpants
      @milkpants  8 місяців тому

      🤐@@chumlife

  • @triton199
    @triton199 2 роки тому +2

    You've earned my subscription with this one. Ween is criminally underrated and there are almost too many songs that exemplify just exactly why thats the case. I dont know of any other band that has the same kind of range as ween in terms of being genre and topic spanning both lyrically and stylistically. From a song about Argus Panoptes of greek mythology, to a singalong about cocaine and bananas, to the auditory madness of morning glory. not to mention geners crazy vocal range and abilities, from freedom of 76 (the jane pratt show version is fantastic) to the live versions of someday and touch my tooter, to tried and true or object. and Deaner is imo the greatest guitarist alive. you cant watch the live DVD solo from buckingham green and not see that the dude is unbelievably talented.

  • @구아바-w4u
    @구아바-w4u 3 роки тому +5

    Jesus you explained it the exact way I do

  • @MeanManu
    @MeanManu 3 роки тому +6

    Nice breakdown, this song always tears me up

  • @jasonlovell3685
    @jasonlovell3685 3 роки тому +4

    Great vid dude, deserves way more views

  • @newjerseychungus
    @newjerseychungus 4 роки тому +6

    ok this is facts

    • @milkpants
      @milkpants  4 роки тому +2

      Husker poo watched one of my videos? Based

  • @chaosofthegalaxy3094
    @chaosofthegalaxy3094 3 роки тому +2

    Damn I saw your Todd Alquist video and now this looking for Birthday Boy. Subscribed :)

  • @maroonmousep2345
    @maroonmousep2345 10 місяців тому +1

    always wondered why i could hear echoes at the end

  • @Sleeveusalone
    @Sleeveusalone 2 місяці тому +1

    WEEEEEEEEEEEEENNN!

  • @InAtlasAtLast
    @InAtlasAtLast 7 місяців тому +1

    Great video!!!!

  • @yomamapie5807
    @yomamapie5807 3 роки тому +8

    I love ween...
    I'm not a pothead though.

    • @Denimchicken.
      @Denimchicken. 3 роки тому +5

      Just mushrooms? Or what 😂 just playing

    • @dougyuck
      @dougyuck 2 роки тому +4

      you don't need drugs for 48 hour ween discography binges. ween IS the drug

  • @invertedcrown
    @invertedcrown Рік тому +4

    paaaain!

  • @pizzatime8773
    @pizzatime8773 3 роки тому +10

    it wasnt sarah he broke up with he got with sarah during pure guava

    • @milkpants
      @milkpants  3 роки тому +2

      Oh shit ur right

    • @KingBoner
      @KingBoner 3 місяці тому

      might have been Nicole

  • @di55olve
    @di55olve 2 роки тому +2

    I’ve been listening to this song for at least once every day now and man it gets better each time

  • @SpiraltTheOne
    @SpiraltTheOne 4 роки тому +4

    i love ocean man

  • @punpunpunyama9271
    @punpunpunyama9271 3 роки тому +5

    judging by your thoughts on birthday boy i have a feeling you'd like daniel johnston's music

    • @milkpants
      @milkpants  3 роки тому +5

      Yes I am an avid Daniel Johnston listener, it's brilliant

    • @radiognomeinvisible
      @radiognomeinvisible 11 місяців тому

      @@milkpantsListen to Ed’s Redeeming Qualities. Drivin on 9, Buck Tempo, More Bad Times… make sure you listen to the ones sung by Dom Leone.

  • @sgt.purp1e
    @sgt.purp1e 3 роки тому +3

    All Hail Boognish

  • @thejamnasium6447
    @thejamnasium6447 Рік тому +4

    I wrote Birthday Boy for ya babe

  • @pubuapubua
    @pubuapubua 7 місяців тому +1

    Birthday boy was the sadest song of my life. My girl went of to college and i stood around with my thumb in my ass. But what i get from this haunting melody is hope; hope that i too could find a way to be a non-dipshit...

  • @malice4422
    @malice4422 5 місяців тому +2

    It will be my birthday in 3 hrs, my ex and i broke up 3 weeks ago, but she just texted me essentially asking if the breakup is permanent and shes kinda going crazy wanting me back one day, or at least in her grasp. Im so tired of the push and pull

    • @milkpants
      @milkpants  5 місяців тому +1

      Only you can make that choice, but it sounds like you wanna move on. Happy birthday.

  • @erinp1081
    @erinp1081 Рік тому +1

    I agree with your assessment . Also though, if you could save yourself.

  • @scherryvalentine9673
    @scherryvalentine9673 11 місяців тому +2

    I think Elliot Smith may have covered this song.

  • @VoodleBand
    @VoodleBand Рік тому +2

    Pain !

  • @tylerstetsko8147
    @tylerstetsko8147 4 роки тому +4

    Nice.

  • @Chiddyboo12
    @Chiddyboo12 Рік тому +1

    The first time I heard Baby Bitch I thought it was Elliott Smith.. Felt like a dipshit when I found out it was Ween.

  • @ClimekCrap
    @ClimekCrap 3 роки тому +3

    Nice channel man, keep it up

  • @rollamcnut
    @rollamcnut Місяць тому

    Ween is powerful, Birthday Boy is proof. The Boognish provides.
    Now do The Argus

  • @danielgourdikian7263
    @danielgourdikian7263 3 роки тому +3

    great video

  • @BoneDaddy69420
    @BoneDaddy69420 3 роки тому +8

    ween is such an amazing band, and they don't get nearly enough recognition for how great their discography is and how much versatility they bring to their sound.

  • @C.SchitzPopinov
    @C.SchitzPopinov 2 роки тому +5

    You really got to work on mixing audio evenly.
    It’s hard to get into this when I have to keep turning up and down the volume.

  • @Mithrandirtheillest
    @Mithrandirtheillest 3 роки тому +2

    great vid thanks

  • @KellerTheKiller
    @KellerTheKiller 3 місяці тому +1

    I like the live version more

  • @arareanddifferenttune3130
    @arareanddifferenttune3130 Рік тому +1

    Hail Boognish

  • @RichardBuzzy
    @RichardBuzzy 11 місяців тому +1

    Volume switches are very jarring in this vid

  • @anthonybernero9720
    @anthonybernero9720 Рік тому +1

    I don't understand why the first thing everyone mentions is Ocean Man.
    What's the deal with Ocean Man?

    • @milkpants
      @milkpants  Рік тому +2

      I don't remember my mindset at the time but it's just their most commercially popular song, it wasn't super well known when it came out but it was used in the 2004 spongebob movie. Spongebob's creator Stephen Hillenburg really liked Ween, he has said "The Mollusk" album which ocean man comes from was a great inspiration for spongebob overall.

  • @lobot1000
    @lobot1000 10 місяців тому +1

    Where did you draw the parallel between slow down boy and tears for fears?

  • @StONed-yx5qq
    @StONed-yx5qq 6 місяців тому +1

    WEEN has no sad songs…..

  • @christiangasior4244
    @christiangasior4244 11 місяців тому +1

    Bizarre audio

    • @milkpants
      @milkpants  11 місяців тому +1

      Honestly thats a kinder word than I'd use, iirc I only had a laptop mic at the time and didn't sound mix.