There is no free-will, no doership. Choices are being made by no-one || Non-duality
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- This is an attempt to describe the indescribable.
This message is not telling you to do or not do anything. It is not a prescription or a 'how-to.' It is not saying the 'me' can't do anything so might as well not do anything. It is saying that there never was a doer this whole time, already. It's an amazing illusion.
There is no free-will, no doer of deeds, no choice-maker. Choices are just being made, by no-one... already.
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Free-will can only be achieved in a vacuum.
This awareness has free'd me from so much guilt, regret & shame.
I feel you… same thing happened with me 💫
I would suggest you to watch a video by “vedanta society swami sarvapriyananda on free will”
this body had an impulse to have a cup of coffee and watch this video. Love you!
Did that body went to get a cup of coffee and clicked on this video to watch it, or did it all happen by itself, by noone?
This is exactly where I'm at. And when I first noticed it, I thought I was losing myself and going crazy. Because I had no say in the choices my body was making. Now I realize I'm slowly letting go of the "ego". Just feels weird because I also feel disconnected or apathetic.
I have been pursuing non duality for 15 years. Tonight I listened to you and for some reason I see it. My brain is fighting it but something inside is seeing the truth and I can't turn away.
The 2 lightbulbs above her head PROVE: Suzanne is enlightened 😁
Funny 😂
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we are constantly catching up to ourselves , perpetually
Thank you Suzanne, I planned on quitting coffee this morning,but coffee just happened 💜
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Every thing is planed by god. .. it's all predestined gods plan. .. no free will step by step n peace no worry ..
This realization is so liberating once it becomes your experience. Things are just happening on its own, without involvement.
I lived my day then went Astrology website to check stars for a day. For months for 2 years actually everything i say, did was planets made me as to astrllogy written in report. Even what come out from my mouth . It how i realised i dont exist, planets controll everything i say and do . End of suffering. Only " What a joy!"
Thank you for doing this one. This topic seems to get many stirred up. The realization "Life is doing all this; there is no separate Me doing any of it" is subtle and elusive for some, but oh so liberating when it sinks in and any objections to that realization dissolve. 💛
Who is looking back on the day and ask "Did I really do that?" "Did that impulse just arise?", if there is no me?
As Ramesh would say... Every understanding is a concept which cab be acceptep or rejected. The only truth is I am. Your understanding is perfectly happening for you according Divine Will. That goes for everyone else too.
Love love love Remesh!! There is no truth at all though... There's actually no you. So who would know that 'I am'? Who would know any truth? Perhaps he could be trying to explain this to a person and using words and concepts that are loaded with meaning... The 'me' can't help but conceptualize everything. Those words don't resonate here so aren't used because this message is for nothing and no-one. There is no-thing here and speaking is happening to a no-thing there... There no-one here to know if there is or isn't 'divine will.' There's just utter total emptiness life-ing, appearing at wholeness. But I think I get what he's saying.
I did read his book 'Who Cares' when I first heard this message and it was wonderful. But it does seem like there's a lot of words used that can confirm certain concepts to the person.
Thanks for the comment!
@@suzanne-chang love u dear
@@suzanne-chang I understand! I have wondered this for such a long time! Words just have to be used as that's only what we have! I've suffered so long that I've been a seeker for decades. What you explain really resonates with me! I used to leave my body spontaneously as a child so I know we are not the body! Haven't tried in a while but maybe i will again.
@@suzanne-changI don’t know why, but I’m asking if you take on students
"I am nothing" is my fave meditation mantra. And stuff is just happening all around...whether "I" am here or not! It makes no difference. Great vid Suzanne.
right now the hands are moving and the words appear, it just happens its all just happing an endless flow of what is
Thank you Suzanne, I’m actually suffering from obsessive compulsions.
According to your video, every action is just caused by the impulses of my brain and body.
Maybe um, my brain is malfunctioning. But now, my brain felt an impulse to control my obsessive compulsive disorder.
I hope it just happens that controls my obsessive compulsions according to my brain’s impulse.
Because you said everything just happens.
When I do weird things, I don't blame myself because of watching your this video.
Thanks a lot, Suzanne!!
Coffe-ing... mak-ing... walk-ing... 💖 thank you
This is very interesting. I "chose" to try to dissolve my ego a few years ago, and planned to drink ayahuasca with this intention. I started having dreams and visions warning me not to do it, like I would see traffic lights turning red, or feelings of something really bad coming. I used to use this as my guidance system, but this time I didnt care, I was completely, absolutely decided. So I did it. I severely traumatized myself. I did this multiple times. After the first one, I listened to what the facilitators told me, that I should not do another ceremony, and instead attend the opening the heart workshop. So I went to the workshop. But 5 minutes in, I thought "I didnt come for this", so I walked out of it and went to do another ceremony. The same thing happened. I thought "I probably shouldnt do this again". But I did it again and after the third one I found myself very traumatized. I went into psychosis, it was a bit too much, too soon. I thought I had made a really, really bad decision. But it was obvious that this decision was fate, it was something from before that led me to do it. I went psychotic and made this series of bad decisions that made things worse every time. But as horrifying as things seemed, I never really lost anything. But it felt like I lost everything. Like the worst thing that could ever possibly happen.
Enjoying life. Nice video thanks
Thank you!
Thanks so much Adam! ♡ ♡ ♡
I've been working so hard to be myself my entire life because I don't want to express the point of view I've adopted from "YOU" any longer.
I'm new to this non dual teaching. the resistance is forceful when I hear there is no "ME" because that's all I ever wanted to be.
but I'm beginning to see that becoming ME instead of being YOU is just a trade in for another construct.
thanks for helping to clear this up.......
I guess?
Exactly! This is a fantastic, clear, direct explanation as I've never seen before about the non-sense of the concept of free will. There is such an avoidance of speaking so clearly about this, even in so called self-realization and enlightenment communities. Even there, people tend to try to circumvent the fact by all means possible (with no success, I think). So, Suzanne, thanks so so so much for just being clear and direct, that's all, and thanks for sharing this description!
Indeed, the puls to go for a walk and walking are the same. As you said, when we look back we separate them
Saw your face and knew this is truth speaking..what you say is right.❤ If we could chose our thoughts, we should have to know our thoughts before they appeared and then chose 'i'm going to think this thought and not think that thought!' 😅 all just appears.
this is a crazy message but yes, all of these happening. I beleive it but hard to be there.
It’s clear to me that there is no doership. Thank u for your video
Me too. Very clear.
This video explains the doer and the thinker as a tool that we have laid ownership to as a sense of me but it isn't who we really are.
There really is nothing to hold onto..but still the "me sense" remains. So much confusion.
While skeptical of his political alignments, Free Will by Sam Harris is a short but illuminating read imo. Thank you.
"Events happen, deeds are done, consequences happen, but there is no individual doer thereof! "
This makes me want to do something for no reason. Drive to the gym 35 miles away instead of the one 5 blocks from here. Maybe I should try to make sure it’s me who decided.
I really appreciate you, Suzanne by name. We have come so far ~ yet are going no where. I love that. This "courage" to share has helped this human be-ing to just-be, more. To just be okay with that, what a blessing. To love the fallings away in a way that it wasn't able to before, pretend earlier. Now life has become much more interesting and fun. Thank you; I love you. Audrey by name.
Mindblowing, most logical perspective u can have. Looking back and questioning seems to be a very nice tool.
The Understanding has happened within Suzanne....you have realized there is no You, there is no Me....there is only this ,Isness....👍👍👍
3:42 I realize that same thing. Those things are controlled by the autonomous nervous system. I know that...but still I can not get rid of the "I". I know there is an illussion there but I do not have an idea of how to do or not do that. It is mind blowing and I (?) am kind of desperate sometimes ! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hi Suzanne, Thank you for this True Message! So much Truth is being spoken!
There is enormous love and appreciation for the thoughts expressed so openly in this short video. A great feeling of release from a lifetime of oppression. Thank you so much! PS it's finally being seen that NOTHING MEANS ANYTHING and That is such a fucking godsend!!!!! Whew!
Ii really like how it arises through u..
Thanks Hadani!
It's good that you express yourself. Good luck
wow...i've been listening to a few of your videos and have been trying to internalize them, until this one. it really hits hard. never thought in this perspective.
thanks for making these videos ❤
Love it!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you. Narrated very nicely. Its so relaxing to listen to this understand what is happening in reality.
You are blessed as you explain Dhamma very simply and easily.
Saadhu 🙏🙏🙏
I often underestimate the role conditioning and pre-programmed responses play. Now I need to work on seeing them without judging them.
I live m reality .. very few do. . There's peace and health. . step by step p feee will.... Destiny
Simply put, causality is king, the first causal chain link happened at the birth of the universe, it can be said that you eating a big mac this evening had been laid down (unspecifically) at the big bang.
Thank you for this very insightful video. Most "decisions" about our lives (biologically, culturally, socially, politically, etc.) were made long before we were born. Then there is the issue of current social programming, explained in the book, "Propaganda", by Edward Bernays.
Omg I love your channel for i am a sucker for this kind of content. I could meditate to your words all day!!! Thank you for sharing 🙏🏾👏🏾🙌🏾
You see more then others but you don't see everything, you think you see everything but that makes you blind, you can gain that control, you have control to some degree, that's consciousness, we should rise our consciousness, and don't forget that there is God
Yes the character is just programmed to do things, no doer the lights are on but there's nobody home.
🙏🙏🙏 I love it! I love seeing people discovering this!
When I speak of Buddha and i.
All things sieze to exist
Amti mata buta
Amti Mata buta
-Master Taki soho
40 years ago I took LSD and had this exact insight. It made me laugh hysterically at how wrong, absurd, and wasteful of experience are people. Everything “just happens”; there is no narrative behind it.
No mistery in it just reprogram out subconscious mind
Absolutely right
Crystal clear. Thanks !
Words are so tricky. You speak and say there is no you anymore and I get it, I do, I’m not doubting the death of your lower “me”, the illusive me, or ego. From a certain perspective there are only verbs and no nouns and this perspective is more real than the perspective that the illusionary me is real, which most people operate under including myself. But I do understand intellectually that nouns are a convenience of language and are not necessary intrinsic to reality. But, perhaps reality has layers like an onion. Based on my experience there is a more real me behind everything I am experiencing. It is like the silent, stillness that the lower me, the illusive me happens within. When I had my glimpses I remember my ancient self. It was completely different from the illusive me that I pretend to be in this life and I am not necessarily talking about reincarnation here. It was like an alien was in my body except it was more real than anything else I every experienced and felt more like home and alive than anything else I had experienced. Perhaps, free-will is possible to some degree after our “illusionary me” has dissolved and we submit to simply being that which happens of itself so, perhaps to some degree that is what free will is, its not something you do, it just happens of its self so.
Many of career criminals in jails understand the dilemma. Are they or they are not, the "Doers" ?
Did I do that ? Did something possess me and made me do that ?
Lawers understood this : Insanity 'Defense' !
Can we watch our thoughts ?
Can we consciously decide and watch that feelingless-feeling "I Am" ?
The mystery "I am" , can I be aware of ? usually the root behind our thoughts AND actions AND feelings ?????
The first announcement , announcement by life of its ' existence, when we were about , what year old ??
But little more ponder .. we are "Aware Of" this first announcement of life. ..
TO US !
(Time for Vanilla Ice cream with dark chocolate chips .. Heavenly .. slurp)
How beautiful the trap is created by the ego by leading to the "discovery" of the "no-one" actor as symbolic for the "non-ego, non-self". IF everything is just happens, crime just happens, war just happens, there is nobody there to bear responsibility, well, enjoy it. A lot of societies right at this moment are just like that, everything just happens, or as one could see in some answers as "something happens,. it is not me", from the criminals, to politicians.
Everything just happens, are you sure? Some basic functions of the body are programmed by the brain, or DNA, etc. which could be easily acceptable. If everything just happens, then when you go to work, do you take your salary? Or you will tell your boss, the work has been done, nobody did it and thus there is no reason to take salary ? Or, you take it, and says, salary just goes into the pocket ? Or, if you are a student or a teacher, does learning just happen?
It is not only a trap, a disguise from and by the self, it is an illusion created by the main "illusion which is the me". This is the usual trap by the logic mind. It is not an insight. When the limitless energy actually breaks through the cloud of illusion, even in a flash of a moment, the reality shines and all that are perceived by the mind and the mind are not there any more.
We simply don't have enough information on the supersets that constitute larger realities to have anything other than conjecture when it comes to free will and causality.
Intelectully confirmed that there is no me, everything happens spontaneously.
But still it doesn't seems like awekening.
yeah this isn't an intellectual understanding. There can be a sense of mentally understanding but it is happening for no-one, to no-one. If it seems like awakening or not, both are just this appearing like a separate sense of 'me.' That's just what's happening. This emptiness and nothing-ness appearing as this miraculous sense of 'me' simultaneously.
So much freedom 🙏
Thank you so much❤️
That's good, Frank...
your videos are really healing. thank u for sharing
Their is no observer.
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∞ Love ^
God speed!
Still, your thoughts unfold easy and solid
Well done
Yes, yes. “I” is but a retrospective attribution.
Thank you so much.
Big acknowledgement that questions are allowed. Most non duality characters that have you tube channel dont allow questions .
I really don't know anything. So any question I answer is empty too. Right now this character seems to like to engage in this way. Thanks for the comment!
Suzanne what to do when you dont like the effect that your thoughts have on your life. Like im powerless against them but damn thats so depressing « my » beliefs and thoughts suck!
They're just arising. You can try to suppress or replace them with positive ones and it can seem to work for a while but it never lasts. No-one is producing thoughts... or anything else, they are just arising. They do not mean anything about you because you don't exist. Perhaps, there can be more of an embracing of the feelings rather than trying to fight thoughts.
Aren't we just discussing the subconscious though? It's true that the subconscious makes 95% of our decisions for us and our conscious mind makes only 5%. But let's make sure to name it specifically so it seems less mysterious.
No no you missed the point. Our conscious mind is determined, there's no free will, we feel like we choose to do or think something whereas it's is actually determined
determines from where @Nolan?
And isn't this dangerous to say, nothing was done by me, it just happened? What about the bad stuff ppl do? Isn't there a choice to do it or not?
@@nolanr1400 my tag didn't work, but now
You have missed something. The distinction between subconscious and conscious is not important here.
Awesome video.
Thanks!
this writing is happening that's saying, yeah to coffee happening this morning!!!
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All is happening as it is happening, however you are responsible for the decisions you take based on either the intellect, emotions and perception ( your mind ) or based on the soul/ the conscious observer.
That is why we got a body and mind in order to manifest our conscious observer/ the soul .
Based om those actions you build Karma and determain who you are and or what your destiny will be, hence your life now and your future ones are of your making therefor.
That is why we are here, to manifest our selves, one way or the other to achieve enlightenment to end the cycle of birth and physical death, if one wishes.
Enlightenment is to leave behind all of the bullshit you just brought up.
What is the evidence of the "observer" right now? Where is this evidence appearing?
Amazing. Thanks!
Slowly getting connected 😇
So, if - in the story - a body has experienced trauma and ADHD, resulting in strong emotional dis-regulation & behavioral impulses and addictions, it's the same. No one is choosing to be that way. This is not a prescription for living life, it is just an attempt to describe the indescribable. It is the indescribable "mental health-ing". The brain patterns may continue, but there was never a separate person choosing it. It is whatever is appearing to happen.
Yup. And if there's a movement to heal trauma or make the body and mind more comfortable, then there's nothing wrong with that. Certain things can really help the person and it's natural for any living organism to move toward pleasure and away from pain (it's just intensified with the 'me' energy). That movement though won't get you to liberation. Nothing can get you to already this.
And it's possible that liberation won't heal all trauma, it can make it a lot less heavy but sometimes healing/integration can still happen after the apparent dropping, or not. Just want to say that cause 'therapeutic methods' can still be used after liberation if there's an interest in it. Like this body and mind still enjoys meditation, exercising and eating healthy.
And it also watches netflix, stares at nothing and is lazy :)
@@suzanne-chang Thanks for your reply :-)
@11:11 ALL is ONE Possibly. This character seems to like sharing and explaining the unexplainable. 🤷♀️
@@suzanne-chang that's one point I wasn't sure about. Healing stuff after awakening.
Thanks! ♥️🤗
Very comforting for the “ME” … are memories just what’s arising with a sense that it’s something that really happened in the past … or is it all fresh ?
Memories arise and they are kind of 'familiar' because they have been repeatedly arising as thoughts for a while... but it's all happening to no-one. So no-one is claiming them or owning them and putting them again and again in their illusory timeline. They don't really have much gravity. No real meaning behind them. They are totally empty like everything else and yet still appear from this nothing-ness. I guess it had a tiny sense of 'freshness' or newness if it arises. It varies. There's a sense that none of it ever really happened.
No choice, no doer, etc = no responsibility.
Yeah and no bank konto either. What is your point? Something that doesn't exist can't have anything.
I think I get it. We are being consistently programmed through society, our parents etc. isn’t it also true though that once we become aware of this we now have choices? How is there no free will? Someone please explain. Yes my subconscious thoughts controls me but when I combat them with self talk and consciously choosing isn’t that my free will?
Is this a mirror? Why do I smile when she smiles?
Really great!
If its all just happening how do we "do" jobs, how do we keep "finding" the "one"? If its all just happening why wouldnt it just happen on its own instead of 'trying'?
I was with you for a while - much alike to the thoughts and opinions of Robert Saltzman - who wrote Ten Thousand Things (recommended for anyone who's watching or intrigued by these non-duality concepts), but... I feel somewhat lost again in the seemingly vague word vomits I'm hearing/witnessing now. Far from my own ego and conditioning or indoctrination of experience and education/knowledge -- "I" feel that this is almost ignoring the sheer reality that people still face day-to-day. Sure, none of this (life) necessarily means anything to anyone, but through this idea, we fail to see that life itself is still happenning and still affecting the multitudes of life around us. I believe that there are inexplicable reasoning for almost everything, but there is a butterfly effect that comes in play with the naturally occuring realities that we face; whether it be from our inate feeling and existence as human beings, or sentient beings, or whether it's from social conditioning - there is a ripple created every "second" that time goes on in which we are here experiencing things and "doing" things. I understand somewhat the concept of what you're explaining, but I think it's a bit too far removed from how you are entering this field of vision and reality on UA-cam, interacting with and responding to and sharing information to others. I say to myself and others all the time that we are all the same yet different, but it's the same different that we all are.. and I wonder if you ever sit there with "yourself" or with others, and see how ridiculoulsy existential and meaningless it is to talk so deeply about such things. I think there is no meaning in trying to explain the meaningless of this all, but we can't lose touch with the fact that bad things happen and people choose or choose not to do certain things that ultimately effect things around us, whether we're aware of it or not. I hope that made sense.. But I appreciate you sharing your conciousness and existence with us Suzanne.. I wish you well on your journey.
Brahman is in control
haha brilliant! 😍
To reach any conclusion on whether there is or isn't free will, the concept of separation between "you" and "the universe" must be accepted as a primary conclusion. Free will comes from the idea of do I tell the universe what to do or does it tell me what to do? So clearly any conclusion either way comes from the idea that there is this "you" and then "the universe". To take the concept seriously will just lead you running in circles to catch your own tail, it will keep you in a state of "this is happening to me" or the equally perilous pride. Discard it. Will alone is a soft enough concept, though there are no perfect concepts. Perhaps it's more fruitful to ask if there is a will or isn't there a will.
Thank you, dear Suzanne. I am integrating Krishnamurti's teachings, and this video really resonated with my soul. So, is it just about allowing everything to happen and become conscious of it? Is that it?"
This makes no sense to me unless one recognizes the interplay of conscious awareness. As one's awareness changes, one's "doership" changes.
Namaste. 🙏
When I feel like this I write them in a diary
I think I’m starting to grasp this now 🤔
Totally agree..♥️
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study numerology thoroughly , connect all the dots from minute u were born , all events In your life share the same number .find that number that s been following you your entire life and you ll realise without a shadow of a doubt that all is pre determined .however I do believe that some people do have freewill . the chosen ones , the wanderers etc ..
In psychology, there is the unconscious, the preconscious and the conscious.