Muse Sucks
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- Not a very good band.
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The 2nd Law: • Muse- The 2nd Law ALBU...
Drones: • Muse - Drones ALBUM RE...
Simulation Theory: • Muse - Simulation Theo...
Will of the People: • Muse's Will of the Peo...
Muse Removes Song from Setlist to Meet Malaysian Guidelines, Matty Healy Responds:
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I first read the title as 'music sucks' and thought wow that's an interesting switch up
XDD
Implying music is good
Melon villain arc
Lmao same
Andrew Tate arc
They went from sounding like cool space inspired alt-rock act with tongue-in-cheek, double entendre lyrics and SICK bass lines to sounding like angry Imagine Dragons...
What part of songs like You Make Me Feel Like It's Halloween or Survival or Reapers sound like Imagine Dragons? (I'm not tryna deny your point, I just don't think Imagine Dragons is the band to compare them to)
@JJ-tk7xf The imagine dragons ripoff song is specifically Thought Contagion. I don't agree with that comparison at all other than that track. Then there was Something Human their Ed Sheeran ripoff song.
They're STILL tongue-in-cheek. The difference is they just dont sound good anymore lol
Hit the nail on the head there. 🙌
@@key_mark2149 nah, I think Matt really takes his silly conspiracy theories seriously
Fantano overlooking Origin of Symmetry reminds me of Brad Taste doing the same thing, then relistening to the album and actually giving it a fair grade
Brad is a fantano fanboy, he pretty much adopts most of fantano's takes
@@kadriblabali Except he has even worse takes than Fantano.
Brad taste didn’t like absolution which is blasphemy
@@jimbob7572That album is ass honestly
I am FULLY on board with shitting on post-2012 Muse, but I wholeheartedly believe the first half of their career is some of the best alt rock ever made. Melon describing Origin of Symmetry as “a decent project” is a massive understatement. And the Radiohead mention is so tired and dumb… apart from Showbiz, the bands are not even remotely similar. But goddamn it is so sad to see them punch below their weight for basically a decade.
Origin of Symmetry is a fantastic album.
Songs like Citizen Erased, Newborn,Bliss or even Plug In Baby hit all hit a kind of Orchestral Operatic brilliance that you never see elsewhere with direct interpretations of the likes of Rachmanimov. The only genuine reason I could see a critic having to criticize the album is the breathing.
My brother in christ the Radiohead influence is painstakingly obvious for a lot of their early catalog, especially considering where that band was popularity-wise at the time. Irregardless of whether Muse's music was bad or good( I personally really enjoy DO their earlier works) It's 1000% true lmao that's like GVF saying they're tired of Zeppelin comparisons
@@superdrummerboy1028 Nah it's nowhere near GVF level of derivation. Earlier Muse might have Thom Yorke like vocals, but it's way different instrumentally. Radiohead had like one record, that has like 2 songs on it that could appear on an early Muse record if faster and heavier.
@@superdrummerboy1028 On Showbiz, yeah, they sound like a tribute act and Matt's singing hadn't reached the levels that Thom couldn't yet but after that but I really don't see how Origin is derivative of Radiohead and never seen an argument before.
The Radiohead comparison was all most of the press had to say about Showbiz. The reason the comparison has stuck is due to lazy journalism regurgitating the first line of thought that was associated with them
Bruh Matt sounds nearly identical to Thom Yorke most of the time
Calling Origin of Symmetry a "fairly good project" is just flat out blasphemy
straight up
7/10 imo
I like some muse songs but not a lot of their albums
@@icecube7685 for me (& probably many others) it's very much an ALBUM album. It's constructed in a way that lends itself to be listened to front to back. Not every song is the greatest song ever but the sum is greater than the parts. My opinion anyway
I'm crying he really hates them
100%
There is no reason to talk down on Origin of Symmetry. Fuck man, Muse was the shit back in the day.
Absolutely agreed, OoS is a fantastically well put together progrock album and such a big departure from the more Britpop sound they had on Showbiz just two years prior (imo completely shedding any and all Radiohead comparisons).
And their live shows were always borderline perfect every single time. I can understand disliking most of their work from The Resistance onward (I agree with that) but Muse’s early catalogue is absolutely dripping with some incredibly powerful stuff, including their B-sides! Lot of fun stuff buried in there!
Anthony’s point exactly
Other than the mixing. That album sounds like total ass. Absolution on the other hand is *chefs kiss*
@@TheLetterH111 listen to the 20th anniversary remix
No, they really weren't. They were always cringy trash. It just took a long time for the world to realize it.
Muse are a fascinating case of a band that has experienced a kind of Flanderization - back in the early 2000's, Muse were a band that played a unique concoction of prog, space rock, metal, glam, grunge and classical music, and wrote songs about many things. There were a few songs which delved into political topics, but that was never the main thing they wrote about in those days, with most of their songs simply being about whatever Matt was feeling when he wrote them (usually while under the influence of mushrooms). However, at some point around the Resistance era - the first album that was mainly concerned with the political stuff - they began to accumulate a lot of conspiracy theorists in their fanbase who were attracted to those songs that were all about sticking it to some vague authoritarian group. Muse have seemingly spent their entire career since pandering to these people, since they know how much they can milk them for cash, while gradually driving all the other fans away, and most tragically, sacrificing their original early 2000's sound - what initially made people like them - in the process. Muse have never been able to capture the specific vibe that their albums from Origin of Symmetry to Black Holes and Revelations had again and it's a damn shame.
Probably a year or two earlier. HAARP was 2008, and the program was a real magnet for conspiracy weirds.
It's worth noting they weren't just pandering to the conspiracy crowd- Matt was balls deep in the conspiracy rabbithole for a while.
grunge? glam rock? Lmaooooo
If you want, you forgot to add proto punk, shoegaze, funk rock, dream pop, zeuhl, southern rock, gothic rock, j-rock, post rock, garage rock, rockabilly, noise rock XDDDD
@@blastdamage makes sense.
tbh i didnt expect this sort of somewhat known cringe band from my teenage years writing pretty bland milktoast songs to turn into musical alex jones
I initially got into Muse because of their INCREDIBLE skill as a trio. Muse can fuckin' PLAY, and they would take advantage of that by writing some DIFFICULT songs and brought insane energy when they performed them, especially live. It's that skill they would show off that made them so fun to listen to. I think most of us in the comments will agree that their run of albums from Origins of Symmetry to the Resistance was phenomenal. The 2nd Law and Drones had some decent riffs and ideas, but they were messy albums overall.
What really pisses me off about Muse and where they are today is that they aren't using the talent that they have to their advantage anymore. They just keep putting out easy songs with unimpressive riffs, simple rhythms, and smooth vocals. I feel like that fucking Chelsea fan meme. There's no passion, no aggression, no vision, and yet they STILL have the talent to give us an album that'll give us that kick we're looking for. It's so frustrating. I'll just keep listening to their old stuff.
Fr, wasted talent is one of the most frustrating things to witness. It’s one thing if an artist is just not very good at what they do - that doesn’t really get my blood boiling at all. It’s a whole other thing when an artist clearly has skill and talent that they are consciously choosing not to employ because they can get away with being lazy.
At drones i finally gave up hope. Resistance was rejected by my brain after a year or two, and the second law gave me the illusion of being passable for just a few months. I used to love them, they are the reason why i started playing guitar, and i still find some muse in my playing. But they're not coming back
You're not exactly right. They are still progressing as musicians. Origin of Symmetry's best technical effort was the Plug in Baby riff, which, similarly to most of Bellamy's guitarplaying of that era, can be managed by only playing downstrokes tempo-wise. By Will of The People, Bellamy includes full-on shredding solo passages in the songs, very difficult fast scale runs that he's never used before (not that it really works stylistically, but technically perfect even live). The drummer has similarly learned a double-pedal technique. They are eager to learn and experiment, they just kinda wrote themselves into a mainstream creative purgatory where they still sit. I think if they somehow lost all popularity and nobody knew them anymore, they'd record an album that could dwarf even Origin od Symmetry.
And it's crazy to me because they do still got the talent, for a while I thought maybe that was gone somehow, but what they did with Origin of Symmetry remixed/remastered version was incredible. I can't believe the people who worked on leveling up the classic OOS are the same people who released Simulation Theory and Will of the People
Drones was fairly complex. Reapers is an insane song on guitar
Muse was solid, until every song became "they can't control us, government bad, rise up!".
Yup. As soon as you make good points, everyone stops listening
@@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 try listening more than 3 minutes through this video lol
@@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245Not how it’s goin
@@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 It's not because they're making a point, it's because they've been making the same point with no variety since 2009
they didn’t do it in a cool way either, like ratm did it in a cool way… muse did not
Don’t even act like Knights of Cydonia isn’t heat.
They made an anime about it
It's hot garbage, indeed.
@@2099Oz fuckin gottem!
I mean I absolutely fucked with Knights of Cydonia when I was a kid.
@@TheSkaOreo All Guitar Hero 3 players did. Not now, however.
I've always felt that the song Uprising was what killed Muse.
It was a massive success and kinda pushed them more into the mainstream. I think Matt saw that and thought "this is where it's at" and went on to try to recreate that success.
They even release a song that sounds almost the same every two albums (Psycho, WOTP) and promote it as the main single.
Nah before that Supermassive Black Hole was in Twilight which was monolithic at the time. I still see Black Holes and Revelations as their last good album (and subjectively the last time their live shows were good, like some of the best live shows period).
I agree though that they started chasing a sound that was popular over the off the wall shit from Showbiz and Origin of Symmetry. I think it's fine for bands to "find their sound" but unfortunately Muse just started giving me later years U2 vibes after The Resistance.
@@voigtoThat's true about Supermassive Black Hole, but at the same time, how often do you hear that song anymore? I feel like barely a day goes by without Uprising being played on rock radio somewhere.
Also, I have a soft spot for the album The Resistance even though you're probably right about Black Holes And Revelations.
@@kidyuki1resistance had undisclosed desires. Massive L
Uprising was the moment the band started going downhill. They made a song about resisting the powers that be and it instantly became ad music. At some point, they became slightly better Imagine Dragons
I enjoyed it at the time but Muse died when the Resistance came out
Their early albums are great.
Muscle Museum, Newborn, Showbiz, Sing for Absolution, Map of the Problematique (to name a few) are still gorgeous, intricate and mindblowing songs. Top notch songwriting, compelling lyrics, and killer musicianship.
As another commenter mentioned, I think Uprising was the beginning of their descent into cringe suckiness. While not a bad song, the commercial success of that single with it’s vague sloganeering, simplistic anthemic chorus, and generic rebellion call-to-action planted the seeds for the devolution of the band’s sound into mind-numbing quasi revolutionary stadium rock and blatant pandering.
I used to admire the Muse boys as artists, but the cynic in me says they’re just all about easy money and fame now, given the huge nosedive in quality the past decade. That said, I want to leave room for the benefit of the doubt. Maybe Muse aren’t motivated by greed/chart success but a misplaced idea of what their fans actually want from them. Their highest streaming songs on Spotify are all from their early records, meaning the quality of those songs is still what drives people to them. I hope the band realizes that themselves soon enough.
can’t believe I forgot to mention Hysteria in the standout tracks section - still one of the best basslines in rock history
the live version of Map of the Problematique from HAARP is probably my favorite Muse song.
I think you're downplaying how good their initial records were, but it can't be denied that their last few albums have been inconsistent messes.
They've followed the Foo fighters arc pretty closely. So maybe the next one will be decent.
Yeah a lot of friends look back on it as like a teenage phase but pop in Origin again and everyone's reminded how much energy those albums still deliver.
Muse 1997-2001 was the best era. Their b-sides are awesome
@@DowaHawkiin Absolution had it's moments
Except the 2nd law that album was excellent
I had quite the Muse phase while in middle school and it felt so disappointing to see them become more and more a shell of their former selves with each new album. My piano teacher was a big fan of them and I have great memories of learning music theory through their first albums, but we both agreed to not touch anything after The Resistance 😔
The 2nd Law is fire
@@aledandrianspecifically, a dumpster fire
I would practice sunburn on the piano lol middle school me was so in love with their music. Couldn't agree more with your original comment
Your piano teacher has no clue. Muse instead of Beethoven, yeah ok 🙄
Is your piano teacher Al Monaco?
I always thought the "political" messaging with Muse was just a sci-fi trope thing.
Ye same
It basically is
So, context is that matt Bellamy is supposedly into some conspiracy theory shit if I remember right. Or at least he was when they made their best stuff in 90s and 2000s.
SO you get general stuff about rebellion, mind control, and people in power. BUT you don't actually get any real actionable message behind the music.
That was always my working theory at least, but maybe it's an aesthetic thing they've just never evolved.
Yes! It’s FUN to have a revolutionary tone to an album… But no one gets that
@@sausig773 There''s a video of Bellamy talking with Alex Jones about 9/11 and Bellamy getting pretty close to 9/11 trutherism or outright at it. He doesn't believe it now
Before Warner pushed them to do a greatest hits album and the band responded by doing Will of the People, Matt had mentioned that they were thinking about 'hitting the restart button' and relocating to their hometown in Devon.
I'm desperate to see them do that at this point if it means purging all of the terrible infuences they've been surrounded by and putting out worse and worse records.
I sincerely hope there is a redemption arc for Muse, even if it’s a small one. Their golden era is incredible and they still have the physical ability to tap into their trademark wild energy. Someone needs to lock them in a studio in Teignmouth, give Matt a bunch of shrooms again, and not let them out until they’ve written some actual Muse songs.
@@mr705yespleaseI love it
@@mr705yespleasehahah exactly
I'm 99% convinced that they actually want to write those songs at this point. No amount of label pressure could push you to release these many subpar records without wanting to be compliant with their demands.
wake me up when they go back to Uno
All true, but that being said, I still fuck with Origin of Symmetry, Absolution, and Black Holes and Revelations.
all amazing albums, magnum opuses bands, they have like 5
Muse are a seminal "I prefer their old stuff" band. They really fell way the fuck off
Easily the only major reason to listen to their discography.
Origin of Symmetry specifically is a wonderful album
And the studio disc of "Hullabaloo". High quality stuff!!!
Origin of Symmetry and Absolution slap :/
melon just a hater
showbiz too! and a handful of black holes tracks still hold up. everything after that felt so uninspired and phoned in, but tbh i dont care if all their new music is ass because we still got their great early material!
@@EverythingWentSideways agreed 100% - i think Showbiz is underrated if anything, its a great debut
I think he made the point that the early stuff was decent, and only the last four albums are trash
also, didn't they play Resistance at Malaysia specifically due to it's lyrics supporting love?
I still argue that Origin of Symmetry is one of the greatest albums of all time
I doubt this will be seen, but to add context to them taking the song from their set list in Malaysia, they replaced We Are Fucking Fucked with Resistance, a song about secret love. Probably a better overall message to fit in when you're performing in a country whose government doesn't like LGBTQ+ people. To quote the song, "Love is our resistance - They'll keep us apart, and they won't stop breaking us down - Hold me - Our lips must always be sealed"
Saying it's a negative for people like Glenn Beck to have found common ground with Muse is somewhat of a non-point when we live in a world where right wing assholes say they like or liked RATM; I don't think that fact makes RATM any worse.
And yes, the overall quality of albums from their first half to second half did have a drop-off. I will say their albums up to WOTP are, in my opinion, not nearly as bad as people make them out to be a lot of the time. I think the issue is the lows on the album are typically VERY low, but they also have some bangers. But yes, I listened to WOTP a few times hoping it world grow on me and haven't been back since. Not great. They still put on an amazing live show, though.
Love your take, I fully agree. And no I'm not biased because I have a Muse pfp. Maybe just a little bit
Yeah, I really think they made a good choice on that, honestly WAFF just exist to be a really dumb song (and i love it)
@@jdg1251I'd fully trust this man to make unbiased Muse reviews
kill or be killed and honestly won't stand down are still good to great songs imo
Bias as hell because they’re one my favourites but I agree.I think drones, ST and Wotp are decent enough albums, they’re not amazing but they aren’t the worst thing in the world as some make them out to be (2nd law is actually amazing though, I will die on that hill)
Say what you will about them Anthony, but I've seen them twice now and they're absolutely one of the best live bands around. I'm not what you'd call a superfan of them, but if they're playing at a festival, I always make it a priority to catch their set.
best sets ever
Great performers for sure, as a regular listen they're meh but damn bellamy has energy
I saw them at a festival six years ago and they were good. I saw them at a festival a couple of months ago and they absolutely sucked
I think they’re well aware that they’re a ‘live band’ at this point, specifically writing songs that are designed to be amazing live that rarely ever translate on the record, the “wow x song is terrible on the album but so much better live” is a super common take with muse nowadays
Honestly they should just stay mainly as a live band and not do any more albums, kinda like Motley Crüe did. It always surprised me that they rejected the idea of doing a greatest hits album, considering that would be at least a more tolerable idea than this piece of garbage of an album. If they wanted to release any kind of new music they could’ve released the greatest hits album with a couple of new songs, and there you go.
Muse removing WAFF was replaced with them playing ‘’Resistance’’ which is a song about secret love, it’s even more fitting and it’s a good way to not get cancelled during your show like 1975 and still get a message across
i agree and was going to say this but didn’t know how to word it!
good choice of song to replace it with for sure
Idk much about Muse but Undisclosed Desires will always be a banger to me
BANGER
The song that started their change to be honest. If you liked it, you'll like their newer stuff as well.
As an enjoyer of everything up to and including 2nd Law, Simulatiom Theory is hot garbage. It doesn't even come close to the worst stuff from Resistance.
the fall off of muse is something that should be studied in museums. how do you go from songs like stockholm syndrome, knights of cydonia, new born, and muscle museum, to fucking dig down and thought contagion?
Edit: okay thought contagion isn’t that bad, I just think it pales in comparison to their earlier work.
Let's not forget the song of all time "We Are Fucking Fucked".
Are you forgetting Kill Or Be Killed & The Handler? They have newer bangers for sure
Or how you go from those first four albums to Simulation Theory
I like Dig Down :(
Muse ums
They didn't always suck. Their first few records were excellent.
oh baby don't you know i suffer
@@killherqueenoh baby can you hear me moan
he said that in the video...
@@badbadgilead2552 the vid title is misleading. “Muse sucks…now”
@@DefenestrateYourself yes that is the title. You clearly didn't watch the video though, which was what my comment was about. 😂
I’m praying for a Foo Fighters-esque comeback moment from Muse because their old work was so good. Like come on there’s gotta be an ounce of good left in the chamber for them
Absolutely. Will Of The People had its moments in songs like Wont Stand Down and Kill Or Be Killed. I hope Muse take from that and make a solid album next because they’re an amazing group of musicians.
muse was actually the first rock band to be a fan of. It was my introduction in rock music. They didn’t scare me. I listened to every single song and love them to this day. My tastes have grown a lot since but i still love muse for their music
Muse 🤝 50 Cent
Being absolutely hated by Fantano
50?
@@maadkid yeah he’s always hated 50 cent. Most recently, his ‘WORST TRACK’ in the description of Nas’ Magic 2 album wasn’t a track, but just 50’s feature.
Plug In Baby being a fucking banger is all I care about
truth
He did say that their early stuff was good.
So was that entire album tbh
First 3 albums were great imo
@@StyxYRenegade He didn't tbh. I still don't think he's listened to it because Origin is nothing like Radiohead.
Matt Bellamy is one of the most talented musicians in "mainstream" music and nothing can change my mind on that.
Incredible pianist, amazing guitar player, and unbelievable voice (mostly on the first half of his career).
And he wrote some gorgeous pieces too. It's not like he can't write. Man is simply a genius.
ooook fanboy
@@alvarotaranta ✌✌
@@alvarotarantathis is when someone dont have argument 😂😂
I think the stuff he writes instrumentally is nice, but his lyrics and themes kinda going downhill
I completely agree and im not even a muse fan
Muse were the band that got me into music. I didn't have much of a musical palate prior to learning about them; I was just listening to what was topping the charts. Muse were what got me diving into full albums, paying attention to lyrics (ironic giving this video's content), and analyzing song structure. I still think their first five albums (yes, even The Resistance to an extent) were very good. But I do agree that they've taken a massive nosedive beginning with The 2nd Law. I didn't even listen to their latest album, I'm so uninterested. Totally on board with the video's sentiments, I just wanted to throw out that their early work really had something good in it.
I would retitle this video “Muse sucks now” because their 2000s material is quite good
@@gnomefrompinkerton they (muse) have 3 albums I don’t like at all which are the most recent 3, so for me I feel the opposite
@@gnomefrompinkertonidk bro their best albums are beyond good enough to make you not think about the newer ones
@@gnomefrompinkerton ngl get up and fight is truly an abismal track
@@gnomefrompinkerton Origin Of Symmetry is an overlooked masterpiece and it’s better than many other albums of that time
@@monsty26 one of the bests of 2001. easily better than whatever the f amnesiac is supposed to be
As a huge fan of both bands, I've never seen the validity in the argument that Muse is derivative of Radiohead. Maybe a little on Showbiz, but Origin of Symmetry is really its own beast that could only be created by Muse.
Matt is a bad lyricist but I don't think it's fair to associate Muse with their worst fans. Though I think "brace for the final solution" in Thought Contagion should never have seen the light of day
Falsetto+Guitar+Drum=Radiohead trust
@@Salad531 oh wow, that really is such a unique combination. No other band uses these three things
like to be fair, since the 90s any band that's somewhat alternative is considered a derivative of Radiohead, hard to depart from the most modern influential band lol (being from the 90s ofc)
@@vasvas8914 yeah it was sarcasm
Matt's lyrics can go from Compliance to Verona in the span of five minutes and I can't wrap my head around why
I quit my job to attend a Muse concert because they wouldn’t let me get the time off and yet I agree with pretty much everything you said here in this video lmao
I MOVED COUNTRIES for them!!! 😂😂😂 and I don’t think I’ve ever heard anything so accurate as what this guy’s saying!
@@serenazanchetti7487moved? Only makes sense if they're playing like once a week but you can perfectly travel once a year for a concert
@@MegaLoquendo2000I moved to England cause I wanted to be near them 🤡
I admit, I am a muse fan. When it comes to their lyrics, I feel like I've always been pretty forgiving for two reasons. 1: Matt Bellamy is the frontrunner and definitely leads the group with extremely complex and innovative composition (referring to their superior first few albums, not so much the recent ones), and I think that it's fair to accept some degree of compromise on the lyric he writes in exchange for all the work he did in blending genres and contributing to production.
and 2: I never really wanted an outspoken protest from them against a specific cause. What always drew me to Muse was the sense of escapism. Their lyrics are like something out of a young adult sci-fi book and pardon me for being an absolute dweeb,as a high schooler, I thought those vague 1984 references were something super clever -- a fictional world that, i realized as a maturing, conscious milennial, mirrors the way the real world is falling down around us. Is it overplayed at this point? absolutely (no pun intended). And if Muse was so down to switch up their style so drastically on their last few albums, I think it's fair to expect a departure from vague political / scifi overtones. All this to say... I'm still a Muse fan lol. catch me at the gym going my 100% hardest when that Knights of Cydonia breakdown comes on.
Your second point is spot on. I don't love Muse's lyrics but I've never felt that they were supposed to relate to our own world. It always came across as if they were writing from the perspective of fictional characters in some kind of dystopian sci-fi world.
If you're into that sci Fi lyrical stuff have you given Coheed and Cambria a try? Aside from that many cool songs and great musicianship.
Muse: "They will not control us!"
Also Muse: "Of course we'll censor ourselves for your personal comfort, sir."
"I don't have anything to prove, to you... sluts!"
"Whoa whoa whoa. Slow down. Frank loves sluts. He loves... and what he means is, he... he'd be happy to prove anything you want... to you."
It wasn't censoring tho. They played a song about believing love always resists hate, instead of a song about how everything sucks and we're all doomed
I'd rather have a band that respects neighbor countries than some Bono wannabe that dates Taylor Swift.
Early material is great, title could make one assume they've always sucked, though I'm sure "Muse Sucks Now" isn't as attention grabbing. The performances on Origin of Symmetry are amazing and their first several albums have artist merit that their modern image shouldn't discourage viewers from checking out. Similar situation to Coldplay.
Title is clickbait. I would argue Anthony has not sat down and attentively listened to Origin, Absolution, or Black Holes, in a super long time. He is absolutely right about why they suck now and they deserve the harsh criticism, but yeah, people should really listen to their good stuff.
Yeah Parachutes is a genuinely good album! Such a shame how some bands become so big they somehow have to turn to shit to cater to a shit audience (yes mainstream audiences are shit).
@@ReadyMindsetGoColdplay genuinely had 4 excellent first albums - Viva La Vida is a masterpiece imo. They have kinda lost their way since then but they’re still amazing live
@@planeguy95 Muse is pretty much the same way. I'd much rather listen to Coloratura than 90% of Muse songs after The 2nd Law, though.
@@negangains2684 Fair comment. Though I do really like Simulation Theory, it’s grown on me a lot over time. The Void is one of Muse’s best songs of the last 10 years imo
Why does it sound like fantano still secretly likes muse
He said he likes the earlier albums. Aren't we all secretly fans of the earlier in albums? I wouldn't dare tell anyone. I like Muse anymore...too embarrassing
@@HORNGEN4 nah man you can tell he still likes their new stuff and is so ashamed by it, that he had to make this video so nobody would accuse him for it. He is coping so hard
@@HORNGEN4who cares what others think you listen too lmao.
Thet only one here coping is you, kid. Not everyone is going to like your lame music and pretending they secretly do is peak copium😅
Undisclosed Desires is an undeniable banger
My man
I still love "Hysteria" and "Knights of Cydonia" but _good lord_ they've been awful for like a decade now.
All the way up till resistance was just amazing music in my eyes then 2nd law came and had a couple of decent tracks and then it kinda went down hill from there and I still give there music a chance because they meant a lot to me growing up.
I still liked some tracks of drones, the lyrics were bad tho, but the music was enjoyable
@@benjamincarmona3703 Reapers and The Globalist are some of their best works musically. Shame about the lyrics though.
Muse was brilliant up until 2011. Then they fell off a cliff. They did not copy Radiohead, that's the laziest narrative possible. Origin of Symmetry is a world class album, so are Absolution, Black Holes and Resistance. I've seen them live three times and they're honestly one of the best live bands I've ever seen.
Radiohead are a thousand times better band than this knock off.
@@lsweedsimp
🙄
@@tommo5597
@@lsweedradiohead bumlicker. if you can’t see past radiohead then you don’t deserve to have an opinion on music in general
@@lsweed Cry more, fanboy.
My favourite Muse moment was when, in the middle of a global pandemic where conspiracy theorists were losing their mind about how mask/test/vaccine mandates were the government trying to control us, they started making an album about the government trying to control us, and by the time the album actually came out, virtually all mask/test/vaccine mandates had been gone for months.
this is every muse album since the 2nd law lmao
So they're not trying to control us anymore? They did exactly what they wanted to do with Covid. Now it's Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine / Trump, Trump, Trump. Until the next "crisis."
Wait, is Muse antivax?! 😮
@@carlosleon6374 Sounds like they're anti-authoritarian.
@@MatPandaZ that film was more to do with the stranger things hype and synth wave movement than anything to do with covid
Up til drones they were great.
I dont care what anyone says "The 2nd Law" bumps
Good albums
Drones may have cringy lyrics but it's a blast musically. Some of Matt's best guitar work ever
@@jdg1251yeah, Repaers and Handler. Dead Inside is a great song too. And The Globalist is extremely good. I, personally, like Defector a lot, but can see why some don’t. Couldn’t care less about the rest tho.
@jdg3644 I feel the cringy lyrics definetly bring that album though.
Lots of albums have great production and instrumentation but have terrible lyrics that really ruin the experience
@@thepancakereviewer that's a fair point
Went to see their KL show last week, and I got to admit songs from WOTP like Compliance and Halloween are good live even if you're not a big fan of them on the album. The thing about Muse is that they will always put on a good concert.
yup totally agree, saw them in Glasgow this year and man oh man, the WOTP songs live hit SO much harder
@@Marth8880 Kill Or Be Killed and Won't Stand Down are phenomenal. Hope they will remain on the setlist on the next tour.
Yep, really great live band, but agree that latest records are super weak
I've seen Muse six times (including last March) and I completely agree with you. I didn't get on the new songs at all but they are always incredible live and I had a great time anyway.
This video hurt me Antknee. As much as Muse sucks nowadays, their run from Showbiz to The Resistance is some of my favorite music on the freaking planet. Not only is it nostalgic for me (Muse was the first rock band I called "my favorite band"), but Muse got me to continue to play the Piano, they got me to learn guitar and experiment with effects, and I still return to their music all the time. They will always be my 2nd favorite band.
I will say this, for each of their records post 2nd Law, they are definitely trying very very hard to make music they would enjoy. We arent enjoying it, but I can tell Matt Bellamy and the gang thought "yeah, Whammy Pedal dubstep is a good idea! 'Your ass belongs to me now' on Psycho is a good idea! Getting Timbaland as a producer on an electronic rock album is a good idea! The line 'We are fucking fucked' is a good idea!" They give their bad ideas a budget of a Marvel movie. I respect that at least.
I agree with you. Muse is awesome. I've always still loved Muse and always will, they still have some really great songs. Admittedly, yes Showbiz through Resistance is their peak, but I really love The 2nd Law and Drones as well.
@@MaxRosewater I didn’t care for 2nd law that much, but Drones has some high lights like Dead Inside and Reapers
Ugh, the criticism of early Muse that they they were "a little derivative of Radiohead" is so lazy. Their music was completely different and the comparison always annoyed me because the only similarities between the two bands is that they both play rock music and Bellamy has a similar voice to Yorke.
I think Fantano is overly critical on this one. Went and saw them live and they were awesome. Totally agree though about their latest album, WOTP is a pretty big let down as a Muse fan.
He’s always had an obsessive hateboner for this band tbh
Yeah, it feels weird for Fantano to go after them like this, especially when he's shown such little interest in them in the past outside of his reviews. This video honestly felt so... unnecessary (and I say that as someone who agrees with most of his points). Plus, I think it's difficult to say a band categorically suck when they're all really talented guys, sound incredible live, and have a super impressive run of material in the early 2000s.
About the Malaysia concert, it is true that they did remove a song from their setlist by request, but the one they substituted for it was a song about how love is more powerful than the system. So they sort of relayed the message even more directly.
Do you know which songs were swapped? I imagine "We are F**king F**ked" was the one that got removed...was "Resistance" played instead?
@@johndeleonardis901Yes, that’s what happened
2001 Muse:
Microwaves me insane
A blade cuts in your brain
Sounds like forks on a plate
Blackboard scratched with hate
2022 Muse:
Ah
We are fucking fucked
Ah
We are fucking fucked
Look, I'm obviously a massive fan. And while I do vouch for them, even today, I can understand why people don't like them post-Resistance. But you cannot invalidate that Showbiz and Hullabaloo are fantastic, Origin Of Symmetry, Absolution, and Black Holes And Revelations are masterpieces. They have cemented themselves as one of the greatest live bands of all time as well. I personally do enjoy them still, but to say they straight up suck is just bs.
Excuse me? Origin Of Symmetry isn't great?? Wtf are you smoking?
2008: first Hunger Games book releases
2009: The Resistance releases
I think we know what happened.
nah the resistance is based on 1984 Bellamy does love popular culture so hg may have given him the motivation most def
Dude was on infowars in 2006, he always was a conspiracy theory nut
@@TMmodify Yeah, I feel like a lot of people have forgotten just how huge 9/11 Trutherism was in the 2000's. Plenty of celebrities fully bought into that shit (I remember there was a song by the rapper Jadakiss that had the line "Why did Bush knock down the towers" in it, for instance).
@@jmckenzie962 We've had approximately zero changes to the systems we use to fireproof skyscrapers since then. PNAC seems to have made the policy decision, even if Bush did nothing someone needs to be facing charges. But he's not a war criminal, he's a charming old man who paints pictures.
3:02 - I'm pretty sure this song was written at the start of the pandemic and has sort of satirical tongue-in-cheek references of how people were hoarding toilet paper and stuff, but it's also got some real anxiety mixed in there as Matt has mentioned in interviews. At the time it was written, nobody knew what would happen with the pandemic. A vaccine was not even in development yet. It's like they made anxious overthinking personified by the lyrics of a song. As someone with severe anxiety, I can relate. I've heard it live and it was a banger. I also love that this song has the exact opposite message of their song The Void, which is super optimistic about the future of humanity.
Muse are very nerdy and write about a lot of philosophical type stuff, and that's part of why I love them. They've spoken in interviews about how a lot of their songs were meant to be sort of ironic and over-the-top in a fun way. But they also have a sincerity to them and aren't afraid to write really expressive emotional songs, which I like.
I feel like Fantano misunderstands Muse a lot. They aren't his cup of tea, fine, but I think it's unfair for him to say they're bad or shit on their music so much just because it's not his thing. But the weird thing about music or art in general is how different people's perceptions can be. To me, Muse has a very distinctive sound in their music, particularly the classical-influenced stuff. It's hard for me to understand how someone could listen to the last few minutes of a song like "Citizen Erased" and not be moved. But that's just how it is, no matter how good something is there's gonna be someone trashing it somewhere haha
By the way, I think it's laughable to critique a piece of art on the basis of being "uncool". That's a concept that is extremely subjective and changes all the time. Muse knows they aren't seen as cool by a lot of people, and they have even mentioned this in interviews. But ironically, that not caring and nerdiness is part of why I think they are very cool. MGMT is another band totally unconcerned about being seen as cool... Read any of their recent interviews. I think Fantano needs to work on letting go of his ego and obsession with his image a little bit. It seems like he's afraid to be perceived as a nerd. Maybe that's why he killed off his excellent Cal Chuchesta character. I don't know the lore, but I do know Cal was funny af.
bro really downplayed "origin of symmetry" and thought we would let that slide 💀
KoC goes hard on GH3
Who published that game again??
Uprising slaps too on WOR
3s and 7s goes harder
@@avebave6550lol
@@avebave6550Activision Baby
ooof this is a tough one for me
muse were my favorite band, from a bit before the resistance dropped, until like a year or two after drones, to the point i've made long lasting friendships with local fans, went to their hometown literally 6 years ago (i'm from latinamerica), saw them at reading festival's front row, appeared on the BBC streaming and got a setlist signed by matt and dom
TR was my first muse release and didn't meet my expectations considering their past discography, so my friends and i waited for their return to form. drones was good imo, but can't say the same for the rest
and i'm sure the issue has been matt himself this whole time ngl, i think it's obvious he holds the band's musical vision and he just won't leave his comfort zone. he won't go deeper in his politics themes, musical ideas, writing habilites, composition, you name it
which sucks! they're very good musicians and matt himself is very talented, but he needs to accept some help to make his ideas come true in a well executed way. the man just can't humble himself and be vulnerable, and it shows. and he's dragging the band with him
with that being said, i don't think the song issue is that bad. granted, i guess changing the song because its title has a swear word is super lame, but they picked resistance as the replacement, which is literally a song about hidden love. so i kinda see what they did there
still tho, shows that muse/matt doesn't have a backbone. how are you so easily convinced to change a song because of a swear word, when that song is part of an album that invites to popular uprising and challenging the status quo? why did you call the organizers in the first place, why not change the song without letting them know?
i hope they take the backlash as fuel for writing what they actually believe and stand for. i don't think that would be an issue for other bands, but muse has made those themes their brand and aesthetic, looking stupid in the process
their live shows are still amazing and matt is a great showman tho, probably gonna see them again if/when they come back
i think alot of it has to do w them not wanting to let their malaysian fans down. they hadn’t performed in malaysia for 16 yrs prior to that performance, and the fans reaction to them performing resistance and stuff like that is what they were aiming for i believe. it meant a lot for them- look at the comments on muses most recent insta post from their performance in malaysia, there are like tons of positive comments from malaysian fans.
@@mikhaelamann.1810 you're right, i can empathize with them when it took 7 years to have a proper muse show in my country and that felt like an eternity hahaha. i bet malaysian fans are happy and i guess that's the important part, but we can still criticise the band for not having a backbone. although, to be fair, we're not in malaysia so we can't surely know what's the mood in there regarding this whole situation
I think the next Muse album will be better... because i cant see how it could get any worse
Muse have always been one of my favorite bands ever since I first heard the song Hysteria and was blown away by its ridiculously bad ass bass riff. That being said, it gets harder and harder to defend the band as none of their releases since The Resistance have been good. Drones was absurdly goofy, Simulation Theory tried some fun new things that just didn’t work (you’re not Prince, Mr. Bellamy) The 2nd Law decided it might be cool to throw some terrible dubstep in and WOTP was…honestly not that bad in my opinion (I know) but the title track was laughably bad.
But I will defend We Are Fucking Fucked to my dying day that shit rules ok
Fantano just can't help himself, his body needs him to make a Muse hating video every once in a while lol
Agree that muse sucks. BUT, haven’t many LGBQT+ folk in Malaysia openly stated that Matty Healy is doing them a disservice by going against the norms there? I’ve seen several people on socials talking about how they’d rather have concerts exist in their country than their messaging being pushed (even if Healy’s message is a good one). I see Muse cutting those songs from the set list as them giving those people a concert. I understand that it’s going against the messaging they’re putting in their music and yes there absolutely is hypocrisy, but I think at the end of the day they want people to hear their music.
I’ve always considered Muse to be a band that accidentally wrote stadium rock songs, and have then spent the rest of their career trying to intentionally write stadium rock songs.
How’s the lawsuit going
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For context: They replaced "We Are F*cking F*cked" (a dumb song about how we're all doomed and the world is ending) with "Resistance" (a song about love always resisting and always defeating hate). Say what you want about it, but they didn't censor themselves, quite the opposite.
Edit: Also, i really recommend you take a look at the Malaysian subreddit to get an understanding about the 1975 story and how the singer's act actually made the government double down on the persecution against LGBTQ people. Praising an act that did way, WAY more harm than good to a group of people is weird.
Wether the 1975 protested in in a good or bad way, that's up for discussion. But in the end, it's the Malaysian governement that is the root cause of this harm, not the 1975. Project your anger at the Malaysian governement which doesn't respect basic human rights, instead of at people protesting against that governement.
@@bramve5021 the issue is: there are ways of protesting. And I don't think they chose the right way. You need to read the room of the place you're in. Yeah, I'm sure they had good intentions but in the end of the day, Matty Healy will return to his mansion in a 1st world country and the LGBTQ people in Malaysia will still suffer more for HIS actions.
There are plenty of way more effective ways to protest than put a targeted group into a even greater danger.
I dunno man, I just saw them live for the 6th time and they continue to blow the doors off. Incredible live act with a chunky back catalog
Look, I understand where people are coming from when they say they liked the first 2-3 albums of a band better than their later work. I’ve seen this said about Coldplay and Oasis too, as well as a bunch of other bands. I get it, but people who harp on it so much and begin to say they dislike or even hate a band because of their newer albums just seems weak to me.
There aren’t 10 songs by Pearl Jam I like more than the entirety of their debut record. Same goes for Chevelle and their 3rd album. I have my favorites, but just because I don’t vibe with someone’s later work doesn’t mean I’m going to write them off as sucking. I’d still say I like Pearl Jam and Chevelle, even if I don’t actively listen to more than half their studio albums.
In fact, I say good for the groups that stick together, even if they rest on their laurels a bit. Musicians don’t owe it to anyone but themselves to make music, and adding songs to their library that their fans dislike doesn’t change how much people enjoy their early stuff. If you liked Muse in the past, but you think they tainted their legacy over the last ten years, that’s just on you. Your tastes don’t have to evolve with a band, and that’s okay. Going on and on about how you used to like a band, but now actively hate them is just for the birds, imo
matt bellamy is a stagnant genius
Take that back anthony! 😔 😟
99% talking about lyrics and 1% about music. Music is far more important than lyrics when we are talking about music, do you agree?
Otherwhise we can read books or poetry with some background instrumental. Lyrics give you a key to understand the context, music goes beyond rationality.
So I think u had to focus about music. Because hearing a song and say "it's annoying" it's something someone could use for a statistical analysis, like a single opinion of a simple guy. U are acting like a music critic so u should focus on their music and trying to be objective. But i think your channel is a place where a guy talks about music (using terms like" suck") not giving a damn about an objective evaluation on songwriting skills (that is the only thing that allow someone to get away, as much as possible, from a subjective point of view).
Muse is one of the rock bands that defined the type of rock music I like as I was growing up. It felt different and had its own identity compared to stuff released by others. The mix of space-synth, electric guitar, crunchy bass and piano gave them a uniqueness to their sound. But as time have gone I've noticed not only on Muse but many other bands and artists I follow, the way the music industry works, in which artists are expected to release the same album, with the same music genre over and over because doing other-wise is betraying what people know them for, makes them artistically stagnate. If you see the rock scene right now, many of the bands that keep releasing albums to this day, are mostly known for the records they made decades ago
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I feel like the main difference between Origin of Symmetry and Will of the People is that when writing Origin, the band was on mushrooms. When writing Wotp, the band was raising families, and I don't blame them for this. In recent years their drive to be as financially successful as possible comes off more because they want to provide for their families more than anything else.
i have a muse tattoo. i was a DIE HARD fan of the band for YEARS, like their music got me through my teen years. i love their albums up through the late 2000s, up until around resistance. i really really haven’t been able to get at all into anything they’ve made since then. i like drones okay, but man everything else from the 2010s on has been pretty rough. i like don’t and can’t call myself much of a fan anymore. their live shows are still absolutely unreal, i saw them on the simulation theory tour and it was unbelievable. but man i don’t like most of the music. i still frequently listen to their first three albums and i have a soft spot for bhar and resistance. but that’s about it. it’s a shame too, they had so much promise for the first half of their career. i called them my all time favorite band for years. but god yeah a couple songs here and there aside their stuff for the last eleven years has been terrible
Same here, tattoo and the same opinion. I’ll die on the hill that their first 4 albums are incredible, especially OOS, but there’s still been good post the Resistance era, though it’s been less and less with each subsequent release.
...I honestly didn't realise _Resistance_ was that disliked until recently. It was the last album of theirs I actively listened to, although that's less due to not being overly impressed by _The 2nd Law_ and more due to my interests shifting. Good timing on my part, evidently.
Eh, The Resistance is actually divisive among Muse fans depending on who you ask (Uprising, Undisclosed Desires & Resistance are still bangers though)
Well, don't rely on what you read here too much. I only noticed something of a "fall" when I got involved with other Muse fans on social media. Lots of nice people but also those "Everything-after-Absolution-(or Resistance)-is-crap"-people. I honestly could do without the latter ones and didn't notice anything of a fall before they told me. So, truth is, Muse are doing well, filling stadiums, making great music and it never gets boring. They are one of the best live bands. So, if you wanna know if they released good stuff after The Resistance, find out and trust your own ears.
I really dislike the latest albums, but still have found myself going to many of their latest concerts because of friends and family. The classics are still great, and the new stuff shines a little bit more live. They also put up an incredible show every time with props and effects. It gets cornier every time but you still have a lot of fun. I feel weird supporting them for getting worse every time but they do some of the most spectacular concerts. I specially liked Simulation Theory even though I was very cynical about the already tired 80's retro direction
Man idk they’re just fun. I really can’t see why they’re worth getting so mad over. I totally get why they’re not people’s thing but they’re not “destroying rock music”. I know it’s cheesy and stupid but sometimes that’s what I wanna listen to.
they squandered their huge potential
@@vasvas8914 They reached it. They put out 3 classic albums, headlined Glastonbury and played 2 nights at Wembley to like 200,000 people.
@@vasvas8914 Nah man they peaked with BHAR. Nowhere really to go but down, might as well just have fun now.
@@iivvrryy I agree that they were amazing, but their new music diminishes their accomplishments.
@@vasvas8914 Not really lol, just don’t listen to it lmfao
Muse had a REALLY big hit with "Uprising" and they've been trying to chase that hit ever since without looking at why their fans liked them in the first place. Uprising isn't a bad song in my opinion, but it was way more simplified and direct then anything they made before and I still consistently hear that song in public and on the radio. I do really believe that it's not The Resistance album as a whole, but that specific song that made Muse what they are today, for better or worse.
Muse replaced The song WAFF from the Malaysia setlistn because it had swear words and replaced it with the rong The Resistance, a song that has become a gay anthem in MUSE circles because of it's mentions of love being suppressed by the powers that be. It was the best choice they could have made
How in the HECK is Muse anything like Radiohead? I'm a big fan of Muse's first 5 albums, and of most of Radiohead's work, but I have NEVER understood why people say Muse sounds like Radiohead. Now hearing Fantano mention it I feel like I'm an alien or something. What am I missing?
I always thought Muse were like a mash up of Queen II era Queen, Sparks and U2. I also don't really hear any Radiohead in there.
Totally agree, never understood the connection. Maybe older Muse to older Radiohead, like The Bends days? I guess I can kind of hear Matt Bellamy belt out ‘Black Star’ in my head… but it’s definitely a tenuous comparison.
@@raithrover1976 Comparisons to Queen and U2 definitely make sense to me.
they made more than one song?
Hilarious and original joke
Unless you only heard them from that baseball scene in Twilight, then yeah.
@@iivvrryybro thought he had a banger
what I like saying about Muse is that they have about the same trajectory and number of quality albums as Coldplay, except Coldplay gets way more flack for being pop all along
In 2006, I had been away from radio music for several years. But “starlight” came on in a friends car one day and it was brilliant. Hoping they might be a band that sounds like that in general, I went and bought the CD. Outside of the 2-3 solid tracks, I tried to get into it for a few months (that’s what we did with CD’s to get our money’s worth) but it was ultimately a whole lotta inconsistent filler. I haven’t touched anything since.
Thing is Matt Bellamy isn't genuinely political. He's into conspiracy theories from the perspective of someone who finds it quite interesting, He's titivated by the dystopian future and the fantasy of the end of the world, but he doesn't actually have anything to say about this world, nor does he want to change it. And when the band felt their angst and were really screaming for the end of the world in that disempowered angst sense that just wants to cut loose and doesn't genuinely want anything really bad to happen to them, that THAT is what made them original. Radiohead with less melancholy and more rage. Less relatability and more DRAMA darling. You take that real feeling away (which let's face it, good for them, its probably healthier that way) and all you're left with is empty bombast.
I actually adore Origin of Symmetry, it gave me my first taste of something harder. But I could see the cracks on Black Holes and Revalations, and by Resistance there were fewer and fewer things I liked.
I will say though I've always enjoyed their classical pastiche. The choral work on that one polyphonic song on Drones is delightful.
Albumwise, kinda yes sadly. Muse live, NO THEY DON'T!
The last decent thing they did was Blackholes. After that it's some of the cheesiest overly dramatic "we live in a society" shit ever.
Matthew Bellamy: laughing in sold out concerts containing over 60,000 people attending.
The 2nd Law was a masterpiece, it was musically amazing with a good variety of styles. For once the lyrics aren’t “rise up against the government “ but instead “the way we are living is unsustainable treating our resources as if they weren’t finite” Animals finally has lyrics a bit more specific critiquing bankers and massive corporations who keep taking more and giving less back.
My whole music career is hitting the drums too hard and waking the neighbors while playing Muse in Rockband on the 360
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I get your point about their messeging being usually cringe and all that. Still tho, I think they deserve huge credit and respect strictly for musical talent they have. I think it’s agreed upon that in their prime these three guys really knew how to put together a song that is well written, tastefully produced and just super fucking fun to listen to, like goddamn I can write such a long list of their songs that I still come back to and think to myself damn, how do you write a banger like that? Imo they stand out in terms of the musical talent value and it’s important to notice and appreciate them for that and definitely their weaknesses shouldn’t be covering up their strenghts. Also they are just so solid live, like fucking top notch, if you ask me they should be seen as a benchmark for how tight a band can be. Anyway I’m gonna share my top 10 songs of theirs that I just think if you’re a rock fun you really should give a spin if anyone cares at all.
10. Showbiz
9. Citizen Erased
8. Map of the problematique
7. The handler
6. Supremacy
5. Darkshines
4. City of delusion
3. Assassin
2. Plug in baby
1. Knights of cydonia
I was such a fan for so long to the point of writing out a draft of a musical based on their music. I still had hope of trying to get it made up until I heard the dubstep album and then the next like 2 or 3 albums after. They just don’t hit the same and I can’t get down with them like I used to.
One thing that always bothered me about muse is that they would take Melodies and excerpts from classical piano (Chopin op 9 no 2, lots of Rachmaninov etc) but it always felt like they were trying to pass it off as their own because it’s all public domain lol
I’m not doing well anymore
I've seen them live 3 times from 2010 to 2018, They have truly amazing live experience and its a ton of fun. I don't care for the later music but they can put on a show for sure. At Bonnaroo 2018 they had the crowd singing madness so loud you could hear the crowd singing from miles away
when ever I hear a Muse song it's often the most flamboyantly dressed, full of itself 4-chord buttrock I've ever heard
It's like it's pretending to be prog or some shit
This is freaking me out. I just heard Muse for the first time at my new job. The stereo wars has been thick so far, but this really put it up a notch. How do I explain to Gen z that Muse is not tolerable at any point in the shift?
Say what you wanna say about muse, but their live shows are the best, they are arguably some of the best performers. Terrible lyricists though lol.
It's sad, but it's kinda how their live shows went as well. They were absolute beasts at the beginning (tons of material on youtube), so much energy, so much intensity, so physical, a lot of spontaneous improvisation, matt screaming, going crazy, losing themselves... and this was mostly just them and their instruments. Slowly it was replaced with throwing more and more money at the extravagant, flamboyant and expensive gimmick props, lights, screens, whatever the fuck, which was cool at the beginning, but then the musicians, the people, became more and more distant, Matt stopped screaming, and things started to feel more and more staged and sterile... and here we are.
A bit like seeing a small business of rebellious and ambitious friends become a giant mechanical corporation. A story as old as time, tbh.
Still fucking love the old Muse to death. The musicianship, the intensity, the blend of genres, the melodies, Matt's voice...
It's such a shame since the run of Origin, Absolution, and Black Holes is pretty damn good with Matt showing his classical piano influence and letting Chris go wild on his bass parts to help them stand out from the crowd. Once Uprising's success happened, it marked the beginning of the end as it just went to show that vapid political nonsense with no real substance and character was what was going to pay the mortgages.
How did they go from Origin of Symmetry and Absolution to Simulation Theory and whatever the new album is called