What if Count Dooku & Mace Windu BOTH Turned to the Dark Side?

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  • What if Count Dooku and Mace Windu BOTH Turned to the Dark Side? Let’s explore the depths of this scenario in the video.
    The Jedi Council is not pleased as Dooku and Mace Windu stand before them. Both Jedi recently finished a mission to Raxulon to investigate the death of Jedi Master Katri. While a success, Dooku greatly overstepped his authority and the council is concerned about this behavior.
    Ki-Adi Mundi: We understand the quest for justice is long and difficult, but there are limits one must follow when pursuing it.
    Dooku: Yes, yes. I am well aware of the protocol that must be followed, as you have informed me many times.
    Yoda: And ignored them, you have. Many times.
    Dooku: With all due respect, masters. There was little time to report everything. The longer we waited, the more opportunities the killers would have to cover up their evidence.
    Yoda: And what of threatening the senator, Master Dooku?
    Mace: Master Dooku acted rashly, I understand. But the blame is not only his.
    Yoda: On that, we agree. This behavior, we expected from him. Which is why sent you, we did.
    Mace: Are you saying I am to blame for this situation?
    Tera Sinube: What we are saying is that there are expectations of how Jedi Masters must behave and that we had expected more from both of you.
    Yoda: Dismissed you two are, discuss this situation, the council must.
    Both Jedi march away in a huff, neither one saying a word to the other as they head to their quarters to cool off. Mace attempts to meditate, reflect, and understand the Council’s decision. But despite his best efforts, he finds no wisdom, only frustration.
    He’s a Jedi Master, and so is Dooku. Why is it his job to control him? Suddenly, a voice echoes through his head.
    Palpatine: A frustrating thing, isn’t it? When bureaucracy and protocol take precedence.
    Mace opens his eyes and a hooded figure stands before him. He leaps to his feet and draws his lightsaber.
    Mace: Who are you? State your business!
    Palpatine: Chuckles. Peace, my friend. I am simply here to talk.
    Mace: I am in no mood to talk with anyone, especially intruders like you.
    Palpatine: Oh? You are barbaric for one who prides himself in fighting for civilization.
    Mace: Unless you have information of any relevance, then you have no business wasting my time.
    Palpatine: Oh, I do, though it may be information you already know. Larik is far from the only corrupt senator out there. Look into the Senate, and you shall find hundreds more just like him. All stealing from their worlds, selling their people, and betraying the Republic they fought for.
    Mace: Is that supposed to entice me? You say what every vagabond and street urchin can tell me.
    Palpatine: And yet the Jedi Council turns a blind eye to it. The Jedi have failed you, Mace. They failed Dooku as well. They are blind to their hypocrisy and weakness. But there are ways to change this galaxy for the better for those willing to reach out and take it.
    Before Mace can respond, the vision begins to fade, and he finds himself alone in his quarters. Little does he know, Dooku has received similar visions.
    To their dismay, the council decides that both Jedi require a break from active duty to cool off and hopefully teach them patience. They will work in the library and train the younglings.
    Mace uses this opportunity to try and purge these negative emotions by throwing himself into his work. As he spars with the other masters or trains with the padawans, he allows those negative feelings to flow through him.
    It seems to help Mace’s mood as he begins to feel better and doesn’t receive any more visions for the next few weeks. However, Dooku spends his time in the library. When he’s not sorting through the archives, Palpatine discreetly begins sending classified documents that show the Senate’s corruption.
    Dooku verifies the claims Palpatine sends him int he archives and with his contacts. He sees entire worlds being sold to corporations, cities left to ruin or at the mercy of pirates, and political murder on an unprecedented scale.
    He brings many of these issues to the Jedi, begging them to investigate, but they either don’t believe him or the bureaucracy and protocol prevent them from launching any meaningful investigation.
    Dooku grows increasingly frustrated with the Jedi's inability to do anything. He even warns them that this might be a sign of the coming dark side. But rather than act, they decide to once again wait and see.
    Mace hears of this and pulls Dooku aside one day.
    Mace: Whatever may come, know that despite our differences I am ready to stand with you.
    Dooku: As am I, my friend. But alas, we are at the mercy of the Jedi Council.
    Unfortunately, the first encounter with the Sith is with neither Mace nor Dooku, but with the latter's apprentice, Qui-Gon who is slain by Darth Maul.
    Shortly after, Dooku mysteriously vanishes from the Order. No one, not even Mace, knows what happened to him. No one takes the blow harder than
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  • @DarthTheorist
    @DarthTheorist  17 днів тому +41

    Considering making most of my videos long form like this. Convince me which one you like better, 15-25 min or 30-40 min stories!

    • @KingCodd
      @KingCodd 17 днів тому +5

      either, as long as the story is good it doesn’t matter how long it is, and as far as i can tel the large majority of you stories and great

    • @jackfunnysmart3298
      @jackfunnysmart3298 17 днів тому +4

      I like longer but whatever you like more I don't mind. Thanks for the great videos. Keep doing your great work.

    • @arcticfox3243
      @arcticfox3243 17 днів тому +3

      I love long format. But you need to do what good for you. The stories are awesome either way.🙂

    • @Exatic13
      @Exatic13 17 днів тому +1

      I love long form, I usually end up using these to sleep and sometimes it takes me 3-4 vids to fall asleep

    • @AlphaWolf77975
      @AlphaWolf77975 17 днів тому +2

      @DarthTheorist to be honest I really prefer the long format so that way it helps greatly reduce the amount of part videos needing to be made allowing you to focus on your next theory instead of trying to finish one you haven't finished yet. Though it is up to you and which way you prefer to make them. Also your theories and the way you make them are on par if not better the Pente Patrol and I really like your videos either way.

  • @Only1199
    @Only1199 17 днів тому +19

    What if a jedi master forgot to close the restricted Holocron Vault and a holocron of an ancient Sith Lord began enticing padawans?

  • @socialaccount0000
    @socialaccount0000 17 днів тому +19

    A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. I had considered what would happen if Mace joined Sidious and Dooku became Master of the Order, but this also as intriguing.

  • @KingCodd
    @KingCodd 17 днів тому +14

    What if Palpatine told the senate he was Sidious when he was elected (not illegal by the time of the prequels)?
    What if Padme didn’t trade Anakin for grievous when they were both captured on naboo
    What if Anakin used force lightning in various moments throughout the clone wars?
    What if Palpatine sensed vadar’s betrayal in return of the Jedi?
    What if Gungi stayed with the bad batch?
    What if Caleb joined the bad batch when his master died?
    What if Caleb survived the fire on Lothal?
    What if Ahsoka got to coruscant with maul before Mace windu left for the chancellors office?
    What if Ezra found luke instead of obi wan on Tatooine?
    What if Illum gave Anakin a red kyber crystal?

    • @DarthTheorist
      @DarthTheorist  17 днів тому +1

      @@KingCodd which one of these do you wanna see on the weekly what if poll most? 👀

    • @alduintheanti-dragonborn
      @alduintheanti-dragonborn 17 днів тому +3

      That first one sounds interesting.
      Dooku: "Are you aware that the Senate is under the control of a Sith lord called Darth Sidious?"
      Obi-Wan: "Yes, Palpatine announced his identity the moment he was elected."

  • @surferdude4487
    @surferdude4487 14 днів тому +1

    I almost expected them to cross their light sabres shouting, "All for one and one for all!"

  • @arronfrazier7873
    @arronfrazier7873 17 днів тому +8

    Mace could never be a apprentice under Palpatine long or at all. He isn't Anakin, Dooku or Maul as far as being manipulated so easy. If Mace did turn to the darkside, Palpatine would have to watch his back every minute with Windu.

    • @DarthTheorist
      @DarthTheorist  17 днів тому +4

      And that’s exactly what happened 😏

  • @crownprincesebastianjohano7069
    @crownprincesebastianjohano7069 16 днів тому +4

    There is so much potential for an alternate Dooku Jedi Temple in the time after he left the Order. This was alluded to in "Master & Apprentice," when at the end of the novel Dooku tries to recruit Rael Averross to join him.

  • @alduintheanti-dragonborn
    @alduintheanti-dragonborn 17 днів тому +6

    What if Darth Sidious was a sith ghost who possessed Palpatine and created an alter-ego of the Naboo senator?

  • @kaymeachem1619
    @kaymeachem1619 12 днів тому +1

    *Palpatine pulls out red lightsaber*
    Anakin: how do you know he’s a sith lord🤨

  • @starlordprime4505
    @starlordprime4505 17 днів тому +3

    Hey man, keep up the good work with the Star Wars videos maybe in the future can you see about doing what if Yoda followed Dooku to the layer instead of Yaddle that will be a good one to discuss since that takes place about a decade plus before the clone wars

  • @reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134
    @reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134 15 днів тому +1

    More Dooku & Mace What If Stories please 🔥
    I like fan fictions focused on more characters then just Anakin Skywalker all the time.

  • @Mr.zemo-zg3um
    @Mr.zemo-zg3um 17 днів тому +2

    Nice video!
    I expected the next!

  • @gamepad3173
    @gamepad3173 15 днів тому +2

    so by killing Palpatine on the Invisible hand, Order 66, the rise of Darth Vader, the Galactic Empire and the Fall of the Republic are prevented.

  • @Desselation
    @Desselation 17 днів тому +3

    Dark side what if's are my favorite!

  • @heavyarms55
    @heavyarms55 17 днів тому +1

    More on point with YOUR story, since I always feel the need to share my own ideas, this one was a lot of fun again! I like you playing on the what happened with Plaguis for the idea here! I'm glad to see you willing to pull from deeper lore like that! I hope to see more! Like, I'd love to see you do a story with the Yuuzhan Vong from Legends. Or maybe Centerpoint Station and the Maw.
    THERE'S a fun What If! What If Palpatine discovered and reactivated Centerpoint Station!?
    If you don't know Legends Lore, you're in for a treat! Centerpoint Station is a massive, ancient space station that pre-dates the Republic and was thought to have been used to actually BUILD the Corellian star system, by actually capturing rocky planets and putting them into useful orbits. If moving planets isn't enough for you, it also could manipulate gravity on such a scale as to put an interdiction field over an ENTIRE solar system, preventing ANYONE from jumping to hyperspace...
    Or it could be used to force a star to go Supernova.
    Come on, tell me an ancient superweapon like that doesn't SCREAM "Palpatine's wet dream!"
    In Legends no one know what the station did until years after Palpatine died.

  • @machodorienjones4757
    @machodorienjones4757 17 днів тому +2

    What if padme was a secret sith lord and raised Luke and laya

  • @homelesskoopa1308
    @homelesskoopa1308 17 днів тому +2

    Mace windu is already on the dark side

  • @samuelescano6646
    @samuelescano6646 17 днів тому +2

    You should do part 3 of 'What if Ahsoka fought Anakin.'

  • @heavyarms55
    @heavyarms55 17 днів тому +1

    What if Mace Windu, Dooku and Qui-Gon Jinn left the Jedi Order to start their own Jedi Order independent from Courscant and politicians? Instead of joining the Sith, they go the other way and show the galaxy what REAL Jedi can do without political chains.
    The way I imagine it, many Jedi would follow them, and the Senate under Palpatine would use this schism to start a Jedi Civil War in an attempt to destroy the Jedi and recruit the survivors.
    Dooku and Qui-gon's positions are pretty well known and plausible for this. But most people portray Windu as a massive Republic loyalist - but that's exactly why I think he'd leave, because he loves the Republic and Democracy, he would want to fix it and save it, even from itself.
    This would replace the Clone Wars. Instead of the Clone Wars, it would be a Jedi Civil War and play right into Palpatine's hands. Palpatine and Sifo-Dyas would bring in the Clones to put down the rogue Jedi - but they would go too far and while thinking they were attacking the Jedi, they would also destroy a civilian space station killing tens of thousands - the Republic Massacre at Corellia would spark full scale war - bringing the Sepratists to the aid of the Jedi - enemy of my enemy, but these reinforcements would be what drive the Courscant Jedi to believe Dooku and company were the ones going dark while Dooku's Jedi would believe the same of the Courscant Jedi.
    Palpatine's goal would be to force the Jedi to destroy each other and then use the survivors to form a new Dark army to serve the Sith, not Sith themselves, just trained, disciplined Dark Side Warriors.
    There's my idea. I'd love to see you do your take someday!

  • @mxyptlkzy
    @mxyptlkzy 8 днів тому

    There needs be a part 2 immediately

  • @rossomgamming7017
    @rossomgamming7017 12 днів тому

    This needs a follow up

  • @Trailbreaker3966
    @Trailbreaker3966 17 днів тому +2

    So Mace and Dooku are light side Sith in this story… interesting

  • @bigwsly
    @bigwsly 17 днів тому +2

    Can you do what if went to hogwarts with the golden trio since u had what if voldermort was sidious as an option
    Or what if anakin and mace fell to the dark side and overthrow the republic
    Or what if anakin found and saved darth venamis

  • @josephprendergast771
    @josephprendergast771 17 днів тому

    What if Grogu trained with Ben Solo against Darth Talon and Krayt?
    What if Cal Kestis trained Kata Akuna after Jedi Survivor? They could join Ezra and Jacen in Luke's Jedi Praxeum on Ossus.

  • @thekaiser3815
    @thekaiser3815 12 днів тому +1

    What if Anakin was really creepy, he is not evil or rude he is just very creepy and strange e this is a commady of sorts.

  • @Rez2000
    @Rez2000 16 днів тому +1

    What if palpatine fell in love with shmi skywalker

  • @ZomboidMania
    @ZomboidMania 16 днів тому

    Part 2 when? 🥺😭❤️

  • @King-iy6xu
    @King-iy6xu 17 днів тому

    Darth Windu

  • @dianesinger9729
    @dianesinger9729 17 днів тому +1

    Like Mace and Dooku turning to the dark side

  • @crownprincesebastianjohano7069
    @crownprincesebastianjohano7069 17 днів тому +1

    Rule the Galaxy, they would.

  • @Demonoicgamer666
    @Demonoicgamer666 17 днів тому

    I feel like if mace feel to the dark side he would be like the rule of 2 sith Darth gravid who went mad because he tried to meld the Jedi and sith ideologies. Mace has a few attachments 2 of which are the republic and the Jedi in this way if mace attempts to stay a Jedi and partakes in Jedi practices I think like gravid this would send him insane.

  • @marcusisgod2592
    @marcusisgod2592 17 днів тому

    As we know darth vader was a natural engineer and could use mechaguru or whatever so what if he used skill to create nanobots to repair his lungs and burns while also making limbs that could conduct the force to make lightning. This could relate to inquisitor baris as she used nanobots in the bomb and he may remember nanobots and their uses. He could could also conduct experiments diguised as torture to fool sidious, learning to heal wounds, make force sensitive droids/limbs and using nano bots to manipulate mididclorians to strip or enhance the force in individuals.
    What I was thinking was that he used nanobots to remove scar tissue especially around the lungs and he would be dipped in bacta or bacta would be applied this would allow him breath which means he can meditate more deeply. And for the limbs, it is possible to make material force sensitive and I was thinking he make limbs skeletal looking like in attack of the clones but would then cover the we either grafed flesh from his body or flesh made from his blood and other ingredients like perhaps kyber crystal this would make the force flow from him easier and perhaps with the sith alchemy in the limbs making his force lightning more powerful. Basically an uber vader who is perhaps stronger than full potential anakin.

  • @chromxrobinandcorrinxcamil9031
    @chromxrobinandcorrinxcamil9031 14 днів тому

    *Sees title*
    F moment.

  • @marcusisgod2592
    @marcusisgod2592 17 днів тому

    What if anakin spirit in the world between worlds saved padme by making her a force ghost or new mother if the ones. She could make him help ben solo and others saying you got to help people who are suffering from your past actions.
    What if anakin was piloting before attack of the clones and sensed ventress fall to the darkside as her master died and took his ship to the planet to investigate. Perhaps starting a romance as they are very similar in their stories.
    Also what if ahsoka taught ben skywalker as she saw him as history repeating itself.
    What if anakin was a jedi watchmen or wayfinder.
    What if anakin went with kenobi to face maul and savage instead of adi gallia.
    What if anakin fell in love with luminara or your own version of aayla secura romance.
    What if oppo rancis trained anakin.
    What if anakin met and fell in love with ventress just before the clone wars just after her masters death.
    What if anakin became a jedi sentinel like a watchmen or one of those who find younglings.
    What if evan piel became a mentor or second master to anakin.
    Or anakin became a healer either before or after his mother death could be related to his friendship with offee or alternatively what if he was trained by tra sa who taught windu and actually did not forbid attachment as shown by her relationship with tholme , they could become like a pseudo parents to anakin and train him away from the temple in azati martial arts and from trasa the living force as she is a plant lady so imagine anakin controlling plant life.

  • @marcusisgod2592
    @marcusisgod2592 17 днів тому

    What if darth vader went to darthomir to learn. New suit or perhaps more unique powers.
    Resurrect talzin maybe.
    what if Vokara Che became a mentor to anakin as anakin was being treated for bullying and trauma from being a slave.
    What if anakin fell in love with luminara unduli, serra keto or bultar swan.
    What if anakin was taught by agen kolar or sasee tin or adi gallia.

  • @djashovel
    @djashovel 17 днів тому

    What if Anakin and the 501 First saved Ahsoka from being executed by the Republic for the bombing of the jedi temple
    That's a what if scenario. No one has done a video on

    • @Nikko557
      @Nikko557 17 днів тому

      I believe Pente Patrols has done something similar to that, though not the exact title as you said, the video he made is called, "What If Anakin attacked Palpatine at Ahsoka's Trail", that video overall covers pretty much how the 501st and Anakin would be able to save her from being framed, its just a different title but the dialogue and events in that "What If" video would pretty play out identically to this what if you have suggested.

  • @gurnoorgrewal7853
    @gurnoorgrewal7853 17 днів тому +1

    Could we connect somehow G, I have so much stuff i want to talk with you about.

    • @DarthTheorist
      @DarthTheorist  17 днів тому +1

      Let me know bro! I’ll hit your line

  • @djashovel
    @djashovel 17 днів тому

    What if yuuzhan vong Started their invasion during The last year of the clone wars
    I can tell you I know one thing that would happen Padme Would not survive The vong siege of Coruscant and even if she has the twins She will not make it
    Anakin Being so angry That the entire race of the yuuzhan vong That can't fell the force All feel Just something of pure anger
    (And I could see Ahsoka taking care of Luke and Leia and sadly they would call her mom and Probably a long time During the war would be the only parent they know Anakin Would Be really busy with this Against the yuuzhan vong)

  • @howtogoogle8031
    @howtogoogle8031 17 днів тому

    shoudlnt mace use the juyo a version of the vaapad the vappad uses the dark side of the foce but channels it towards the light side juyo is something that uses the dark side of the forfe but is more alighned to wards the darkside hmmm

  • @marcusisgod2592
    @marcusisgod2592 17 днів тому

    What if anakin was found by jedi belonging to another sect like corelia or those nomadic jedi who allow attachment.
    What if anakin went to dathomir in revenge of the sith to search for ways to save padme.
    What if yoda decided to swap the masters of ferus olin and anakin.
    So anakin with siri.
    Obi with ferus
    What if ahsoka and anakin crash landed on bendu's planet. Also what if darth vader joined thrawn in meeting the bendu and went on a spiritual journey back to the dust ball tatiotene.
    What if the whills turned padme into a literal force angel to save vader.

  • @chromxrobinandcorrinxcamil9031
    @chromxrobinandcorrinxcamil9031 13 днів тому

    Also, ew, High Republic images.🤢