@@jasonskeans3327 "there is no ignorance, there is knowledge" sounds like a violation of the code to me to not have seen through obviously fabricated evidence. they were at war, they knew powerful sith were behind the war, and yet nobody was busying themselves with searching the force and finding out wtf was going on. besides, the issue wasnt just that they believed she was guilty, its that they had no qualms whatsoever about being willing to do so
"Palpatine explains to Anakin that he would treat him as an equal. That he won't cast him aside." Darth Vader, 20 years later: So that was a fucking lie.
This was well written! A lot of what ifs seem a bit contrived, but you gave a great explanation for why Palpatine would wait and let the Jedi Order come into disrepute.
This was an excellent video. You must continue on how this would affect the galaxy from there on. Ahsoka really needs to be brought into it. Not to mention, Han and other such characters need a way to come into the Skwalker family's lives as they did in the original timeline.
I liked this one quite a lot. The biggest plot issue you have is the main adjustments to this story occur around the birth of the children which is after the events where Anakin gave Ashoka her lightsabers back to help her fight against Darth Maul. So he'd have been deposed by Ashoka and Bo Katan. But that aside, I like the happy ending for Vader.
I Want A Part Two Where Anakin Comes Back And Reconnects With the Force And Redeems Obi-Wan and Where Qui-Gon Talks To Both Anakin and Tries To Reason With Obi-Wan/ How Could Obi-Wan Turn To the Dark Side I Mean He Is The Embodiment of the Light Side.
Maybe Palpatine was already waiting for Luke and Leia to be born. He already knew that the rebel pilot that blew up the death star was Anakin's son and we saw Leia being kidnapped by imperial forces in the Obi-wan Kenobi series. Palpatine was already plotting to replace Vader with either one of his kids long before the events of the original trilogy.
@loudboy317 Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me. Palpatine liked to have a million-and-one contingency plans. Finding, keeping, and hiding one of Anakin's kids to train and use as a backup apprentice sounds like just the kind of sadistic thing he'd do. (6/20/2022)
@@GamePlays_1230 Because he doesn't want to waist countless years training a new apprentice when he can simply manipulate Luke and Leia to join the dark side just like he did with Anakin.
This is an awesome video you and the detail are so well done and I love the choice of Anakin refusing to rejoin the Jedi Order in order to remain with his family and actually choose to save the Jedi not because he is the chosen but because he knew deep down it is not right to let the Jedi perish by both by the Clone Army and the Droid Army under Palpatine aka Darth Sidous' control. I would love to see a part two for this what-if video is a masterpiece and it deserves to have its own trilogy. I have a what-if idea for the next video if you won't hear it out and something tells me maybe Maul might have transferred essence into Grand Master Kenboi's body or it could be Palpatine himself, who possessed Obi-Wan to his new vessel to cause destruction around the force. Either way, awesome job with this what-if video, please update some more videos for they are awesome, and keep up the great you're doing and May the force be with you!!
Thanks Ben! We have a lot more "What Ifs" on our channel that I guarantee you will enjoy! I do want to explore the concept of essence transfer, although I am unfamiliar with it in legends so need to learn up on it first.
Definitely need a part 2 and in part 2 we need anikan to make a come back and reconnect with the force in order to stop obiwan and bring him back to the light
Palpatine had to have known Padme and her and Anakin's children had to be eliminated because he would have seen them as a problem to him in turning Anakin to the dark side since his love for them from turning completely evil.
palpatine 100% knew padme was pregnant, it would have been a much smarter idea to wait, but perhaps he thought he wouldnt be able to turn anakin if padme survived and he had his kids
Why does Anakin and Sidious battle reminds me of Revan vs Malak on the Star Forge? Anakin cutting himself off of the Force reminds me of the Jedi Exile, but as always the Force would guide Anakin no matter what. He is half-Force so him cutting himself off the Force would only cause the Force to reawakened within him like the Jedi Exile did. Obi-Wan killing Maul and falling to the dark side of the Force is something I surely didn't see coming, but I imagine how Anakin's reaction would be seeing that his father has turned away from the light and became a monster. I guess Anakin and Obi-Wan balanced each other out so the other wouldn't fall to darkness. Without one another, one would inevitably fall and the other would be lost.
I hate that the council is like " you can't keep your lightsaber" Why?.. that KYBER Krystal belongs to Anakin through the force. They're bonded together. Taking a force users saber and Kyber will probably just create more chaos than order They have no right to take it
Obi Wan: *turns to the dark side* *Jedi not sensing it* *One Jedi walks in to Kenobi's location* Jedi Knight: Master, we won! It's over! Obi Wan: *ignites lightsaber* Jedi Knight: oh no... *every Jedi in the Order could now sense the Grand Master's fall to the dark side* Jedi Padawan: I sense a great shift in the Force, master. The Padawan's master: I felt it too, it seems...Master Kenobi has fallen... Obi Wan: *goes on a slaughter house, the fleet did not even realize*
Very good I don't know if it's a term out I would have love to happen due to mace dying but still I think it's a good tern of events If it ever would have happened
make what if anakin stayed on mortis like the father said to keep on eye on the son and daughter what if palpatine never became supreme chancellor and many more what if Anakin never lost his rigth arm to dooku
What if Bo-Katan Kryze was a stronger and better fighter than Maul and Pre Visla combined, thus defeating Maul and/or Sabine Wren in combat for leadership of Mandalore and/or the Darksaber?
Sorry, I don't care how tire Mace was in the fight, the more dark side energy Sidious uses against Mace, the stronger he is making Mace with his Vaapad.
excellent but mandalore would never even be strong enought to even scratch a galaxy spending power and second of all maul would be already in prison due to ahsoka. Obi wan turning also more than unreal obi wan is extremly well in the jedi way and would never switch.
No I don't believe he would turn because he didn't strike him out of anger and as the grand master he would have lots of training on how to deal with his emotions and how to use the force.
Only thing is the stronger the dark side is with palpatine the stronger it makes Mace windu because of a pad now it would have made more sense if you had those thousand clones that he killed shooting at him while ol palpy is attacking then I would believe sidious could kill Mace windu one-on-one regardless of how tired window is it don't matter js
I feel you focus too much on following the movie and following your plot idea over the characters. Keep in mind when you let plot shape characters, you always end up messing up characterization. Let them shape the plot. If Palpatine wasn't so focused on Anakin to help finish off the Jedi, then he would have had someone else by his side....like Barriss who he might have gotten a guard to help her escape. Or he might have re-enlisted Maul and/or his brother during this time if he didn't focus on grabbing Anakin immediately. Also, instead of telling Anakin he's the Sith lord, why not be smart about it and just hire him as a bodyguard or protector. That way if any Jedi come arrogantly crashing in to arrest him (with no political authority to do so), they'd also have to battle against Anakin first. Make it interesting, not just blindly follow the path of the movie. You're changing things with 'what if'. Other points will change too from the tweaks you make.
i thought it was great up until the end. I am sorry but obi wan would not turn to the darkside to beat maul. especially not an obi wan who had never seen the order destroyed and kept training for the next twenty years. more than that it just is not in that character to behave that way. look at everything that kenobi goes through in the skywalker saga: he is taken from his family as a child, trained as a youngling and then selected way late to become a padawan, has his master killed in front of him, then gets the pressure of being the first jedi in a thousand years to kill a sith, also btw we know you just became a jedi knight but here is space jesus and you have to teach him so don't screw up.. so then after 15 years of raising anakin and teaching him, all while fighting through the clone wars and watching maul murder satine in front of him, then anakin and order 66 and his chopping anakin into bits and pieces on mustafar, rescuing leia and helping the rebels a little. kenobi went through all of that and never even thought about using the dark side because he is obi wan kenobi and he is the epitome of the jedi order and the jedi master
"you have violated the jedi code"
"you mean like you did when you threw my padawan to the wolves a few years back?"
that didn't break the code tho and all the evidence pointed to her
@@jasonskeans3327 "there is no ignorance, there is knowledge" sounds like a violation of the code to me to not have seen through obviously fabricated evidence. they were at war, they knew powerful sith were behind the war, and yet nobody was busying themselves with searching the force and finding out wtf was going on. besides, the issue wasnt just that they believed she was guilty, its that they had no qualms whatsoever about being willing to do so
"Palpatine explains to Anakin that he would treat him as an equal. That he won't cast him aside."
Darth Vader, 20 years later: So that was a fucking lie.
Luke, Leia, Mara and Ahsoka really need to appear. A part 2 would be awesome.
This was well written! A lot of what ifs seem a bit contrived, but you gave a great explanation for why Palpatine would wait and let the Jedi Order come into disrepute.
This was an excellent video. You must continue on how this would affect the galaxy from there on.
Ahsoka really needs to be brought into it. Not to mention, Han and other such characters need a way to come into the Skwalker family's lives as they did in the original timeline.
But, Han sadly died!
@@doomtitan1172 You know what I meant!
wow very beautiful work, a version of my life where i don't turn to the dark side and i live in peace whit my family: a dream
He deserved better ):
@Shrek the ogre Palpatine......NO. but I must admit that the tragedy he told me is very interesting....
@Shrek the ogre ANAKIN DONT TRUST HIM HE IS DARTH SHREK
Yeah, but then your best friend/big bro turns to the dark side.
@@simply2187 i will join the dark side
I wasn't expecting the return of the Star Forge, of all things.
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
I liked this one quite a lot. The biggest plot issue you have is the main adjustments to this story occur around the birth of the children which is after the events where Anakin gave Ashoka her lightsabers back to help her fight against Darth Maul. So he'd have been deposed by Ashoka and Bo Katan. But that aside, I like the happy ending for Vader.
I Want A Part Two Where Anakin Comes Back And Reconnects With the Force And Redeems Obi-Wan and Where Qui-Gon Talks To Both Anakin and Tries To Reason With Obi-Wan/ How Could Obi-Wan Turn To the Dark Side I Mean He Is The Embodiment of the Light Side.
Yes
This video was awesome! Please do a part 2 and a part 3.
Maybe Palpatine was already waiting for Luke and Leia to be born. He already knew that the rebel pilot that blew up the death star was Anakin's son and we saw Leia being kidnapped by imperial forces in the Obi-wan Kenobi series. Palpatine was already plotting to replace Vader with either one of his kids long before the events of the original trilogy.
@loudboy317 Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me. Palpatine liked to have a million-and-one contingency plans. Finding, keeping, and hiding one of Anakin's kids to train and use as a backup apprentice sounds like just the kind of sadistic thing he'd do. (6/20/2022)
but why would palatine wait knowing they could be kept away?
@@GamePlays_1230
Because he doesn't want to waist countless years training a new apprentice when he can simply manipulate Luke and Leia to join the dark side just like he did with Anakin.
The fact din Djarin is in this is hilarious good job
We need a part 2 I need a part 2 I was on the edge of my seat
Thanks John!
This is very great and very exciting and very nicely well done. Yes, definitely make a Part 2.
Thanks again Master!
This is an awesome video you and the detail are so well done and I love the choice of Anakin refusing to rejoin the Jedi Order in order to remain with his family and actually choose to save the Jedi not because he is the chosen but because he knew deep down it is not right to let the Jedi perish by both by the Clone Army and the Droid Army under Palpatine aka Darth Sidous' control. I would love to see a part two for this what-if video is a masterpiece and it deserves to have its own trilogy.
I have a what-if idea for the next video if you won't hear it out and something tells me maybe Maul might have transferred essence into Grand Master Kenboi's body or it could be Palpatine himself, who possessed Obi-Wan to his new vessel to cause destruction around the force. Either way, awesome job with this what-if video, please update some more videos for they are awesome, and keep up the great you're doing and May the force be with you!!
Thanks Ben! We have a lot more "What Ifs" on our channel that I guarantee you will enjoy! I do want to explore the concept of essence transfer, although I am unfamiliar with it in legends so need to learn up on it first.
Definitely need a part 2 and in part 2 we need anikan to make a come back and reconnect with the force in order to stop obiwan and bring him back to the light
Part would be awesome would love to see a Darth negotiator storyline
This was amazig video, please, you must make the second part!
this was a great story that definitely needs a part 2
Please make a part 2 quickly because this series is awesome!!!!!!!!!! Keep up the good work man. Peace out.
Everytime you upload it givss me joy like no other
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@@FantasyFolklore also when Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker goes OP mode it makes to happy and excited
Palpatine had to have known Padme and her and Anakin's children had to be eliminated because he would have seen them as a problem to him in turning Anakin to the dark side since his love for them from turning completely evil.
Love it, I suggest an active Asoka in part 2
Thanks!
Bit of a cliffhanger on the end
palpatine 100% knew padme was pregnant, it would have been a much smarter idea to wait, but perhaps he thought he wouldnt be able to turn anakin if padme survived and he had his kids
How can anakin rush towards sidious blade ignited if the council took his lighsaber?
Why does Anakin and Sidious battle reminds me of Revan vs Malak on the Star Forge? Anakin cutting himself off of the Force reminds me of the Jedi Exile, but as always the Force would guide Anakin no matter what. He is half-Force so him cutting himself off the Force would only cause the Force to reawakened within him like the Jedi Exile did. Obi-Wan killing Maul and falling to the dark side of the Force is something I surely didn't see coming, but I imagine how Anakin's reaction would be seeing that his father has turned away from the light and became a monster. I guess Anakin and Obi-Wan balanced each other out so the other wouldn't fall to darkness. Without one another, one would inevitably fall and the other would be lost.
"Waves hand" you will do a part two now
Hiw does Anakin ignite his blade when he turned it over to the council when he left?
Awesome
Do a part 2
Part two, part two!
Yeah. Make part 2 for us
best what if ever you have made my friend
Thanks Gerardo*** that means a lot ❤️
@@FantasyFolklore its gerardo but you get it so when do you think you can make the other what ifs
@@gerardocovarrubias3058 Im thinking of the What if Palpatine never became chancellor storyline currently!
Sorry Gerardo! We will get to it soon I promise.
@@FantasyFolklore ok man
That would be interesting
Premiers tomorrow!
We need a part two , an akin and darth high ground need a stand off now
Yes a part 2 pls
This was really great, keep up the great work. Peace ✌🏻
Thank You!
@@FantasyFolklore Your Welcome. Part 2 please.
@@FantasyFolklore do a part2
Cool part 2 great story bro
They should really make a live action what if situation where anakin never turn to the dark side and raise his kids with padame
Part two please
Palpatine never knew they even existed
So did Ahsoka not face Maul in this alternate timeline?!!
I guess not
Part 2 good work
Need part 2
Next u should do what if Obi wan fought Reva part 2
I hate that the council is like " you can't keep your lightsaber"
Why?.. that KYBER Krystal belongs to Anakin through the force. They're bonded together. Taking a force users saber and Kyber will probably just create more chaos than order
They have no right to take it
Make a part 2
2:09 i don't think duko and grievous would be dead at that point. Palpatine will wait at least with grievous until after they will be born
This is a great scenario
What if Palpatine waited until luka and Leia Were Born?
Easy, nothing. Disney would fuck up the saga anyway.
Yeah pretty much
What If grand admiral thrawn was fulcrum instead of kallus?
Obi Wan: *turns to the dark side*
*Jedi not sensing it*
*One Jedi walks in to Kenobi's location*
Jedi Knight: Master, we won! It's over!
Obi Wan: *ignites lightsaber*
Jedi Knight: oh no...
*every Jedi in the Order could now sense the Grand Master's fall to the dark side*
Jedi Padawan: I sense a great shift in the Force, master.
The Padawan's master: I felt it too, it seems...Master Kenobi has fallen...
Obi Wan: *goes on a slaughter house, the fleet did not even realize*
Council Member: you HAVE to be kidding me, it actually managed to sway him...
Council Member 2: then we are in BIG trouble...
Still Waiting on that part 2 a year later
I like to think that anakin used maces lightsaber to strike sidious since his was taken
Lesson: don’t be patient
Please give us a part two
Very good I don't know if it's a term out I would have love to happen due to mace dying but still I think it's a good tern of events If it ever would have happened
This is incredible animate it will be great
Thank You!
make what if anakin stayed on mortis like the father said to keep on eye on the son and daughter what if palpatine never became supreme chancellor and many more what if Anakin never lost his rigth arm to dooku
That's a good idea!
great video, but too bad there's not a part 2 1 year later
Pt 2 pls 😄
Part 2 please 🙏
Where is part 2 to this story we all want a part 2
We're did Anakin get a lightsaber , to fight Sidous. The council took his saber?
Any part 2? Please
Let guess, Anakin rejoins the Jedi to defeat Sith lord Darth Oi wan
Where is part 2?! 😖
Is there a part two to this video?
Who’s lightsaber is Anakin using?
Part 2!!!
Obi-wan didn't betray Anakin, he just told him what was happening.
I just don't know where anikan get his Saber from to fight sidious?
Poor I’ll be one, got consumed by the freaking Darkside, and or he’s good in the dark side, we will never know until we get a Park to
What if Bo-Katan Kryze was a stronger and better fighter than Maul and Pre Visla combined, thus defeating Maul and/or Sabine Wren in combat for leadership of Mandalore and/or the Darksaber?
Sorry, I don't care how tire Mace was in the fight, the more dark side energy Sidious uses against Mace, the stronger he is making Mace with his Vaapad.
Only problem here is that Revan Destroyed the Star Forge over 3000 years before this.
This video was good but don’t you think anakin would strive for balance instead of cutting himself from the force
I have another what if Idea what if mother talzin had killed palpatine on dathomir
yes please
bro became german 8:21
5:09 if obi wan leave with anakin than anakin will respected to anakin and the Republic will be more distrusted the jedi
excellent but mandalore would never even be strong enought to even scratch a galaxy spending power and second of all maul would be already in prison due to ahsoka. Obi wan turning also more than unreal obi wan is extremly well in the jedi way and would never switch.
How did Anakin still have his light sealer if he had to turn it in
What if Vader sensed Leia was his daughter in episode 4?
No I don't believe he would turn because he didn't strike him out of anger and as the grand master he would have lots of training on how to deal with his emotions and how to use the force.
He turned because of the Star Forge. Those who use it get corrupted by the Dark Side.
So your saying Yoda would've been corrupted too?
Only thing is the stronger the dark side is with palpatine the stronger it makes Mace windu because of a pad now it would have made more sense if you had those thousand clones that he killed shooting at him while ol palpy is attacking then I would believe sidious could kill Mace windu one-on-one regardless of how tired window is it don't matter js
i dont think obi wan would turn cause of his mental stength
Part 2
part two
Is there a part 2
Not right now
I feel you focus too much on following the movie and following your plot idea over the characters. Keep in mind when you let plot shape characters, you always end up messing up characterization. Let them shape the plot. If Palpatine wasn't so focused on Anakin to help finish off the Jedi, then he would have had someone else by his side....like Barriss who he might have gotten a guard to help her escape. Or he might have re-enlisted Maul and/or his brother during this time if he didn't focus on grabbing Anakin immediately. Also, instead of telling Anakin he's the Sith lord, why not be smart about it and just hire him as a bodyguard or protector. That way if any Jedi come arrogantly crashing in to arrest him (with no political authority to do so), they'd also have to battle against Anakin first. Make it interesting, not just blindly follow the path of the movie. You're changing things with 'what if'. Other points will change too from the tweaks you make.
why did obi wan turn wvil?
Part 2?
What if Palpatine waited until Luke and Leia were married?
That never happened
@@beltaristeryt8991 Yes it did! I read it in some fan fiction on the internet!
Fan fiction on internet=fact.
14:11 ummmm kit die in order 66 my gezz like he didt live in order 66 but i guess if order 66 was kinda late than is effected who live so respected
i thought it was great up until the end. I am sorry but obi wan would not turn to the darkside to beat maul. especially not an obi wan who had never seen the order destroyed and kept training for the next twenty years. more than that it just is not in that character to behave that way. look at everything that kenobi goes through in the skywalker saga: he is taken from his family as a child, trained as a youngling and then selected way late to become a padawan, has his master killed in front of him, then gets the pressure of being the first jedi in a thousand years to kill a sith, also btw we know you just became a jedi knight but here is space jesus and you have to teach him so don't screw up.. so then after 15 years of raising anakin and teaching him, all while fighting through the clone wars and watching maul murder satine in front of him, then anakin and order 66 and his chopping anakin into bits and pieces on mustafar, rescuing leia and helping the rebels a little. kenobi went through all of that and never even thought about using the dark side because he is obi wan kenobi and he is the epitome of the jedi order and the jedi master
What makes you think palpatine didn't want to wait? He was all for helping Vaders dying wife but Vader failed low ground dumb ass jump.
But still fucking awesome.
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Plus your what if killed Palpatine. Yoda died before Palpatine. Your newest videos are better :)