Fr, even some of the downsides of Mistweaver, like ''castweaving isn't an option''. Castweaving is amazing right now. Its not the meta choice but I have been having a blast with a PiP Master of Harmony build in raid. Its not ideal in dungeons sure, mostly because doing damage as a healer is so important and Mistweaver does a ton of damage when fistweaving, but still. The spec overall just has never been better than it is right now, and the 11.1 changes will make it *even better*.
I love your videos, but I gotta disagree on the priests. I feel like disc feels so boring, only really dpsing and not healing, where as holy with acheron or whatever it's called feels fun. I just wish they would make the holy nova not pull extra mobs if it hits them..
I've made a new priest alt the last few days and I kind of disagree as well as agree. Discipline feels like it has a very boring rotation. Its kind of like a ranged Mistweaver but without the fun of Mistweaver. Its visually pleasing but with the Mind Blast, Radiance, Penance, Smite spam rotation it just feels very bland and sterile. Holy is a lot more reactive and you get more of a feel that you are in fact healing. But it is also very shallow and two-dimensional.
No surprise, resto druid is my preferred healer for many of the reasons you mentioned! Disc priest and mistweaver and giga fun as well but druid will always be #1 for me. Team Orange ftw! 🧡
I mained mistweaver in dragonflight, man it was good. It looks so much better now. Im trying holy pally now and its a ton of fun, super unique. Tried shaman but its not a lot of fun. Good heals overall but it didnt feel great. It has everything youll need. Holy pally is so damn fun so far but it needs more damage and a bit more tuning. Outside of numbers its such fun to play, despite being worse than shaman or disc.
I HIGHLY recommend Chronowarden Preservation evoker. It’s very active and demanding but once you get a hang of it you just cycle and rotate all your spells with decreased CD and cast time, it’s very fast and very synergistic with itself
1 Mistweaver just as a melee player i can heal in melee and if i have actually no fun i can just switch to caster healstyle 😊 2 Shaman just because of totems and the fantasy to heal with water. 3 normaly paly but outside of cooldowns it feels bad the hps drops a lot. Hope they do a change there but till then of course disc priest this playstyle switches between holy and shadow is pure fun and finally powerful shields again 😊
They could go a long way toward reducing button bloat by consolidating some of the healing/damage abilities like they've done with Holy Shock. e.g. Combine Flash Heal & Smite to yield a healing component when used on friendly targets and a damage component when used on enemy targets. Not so freaking hard, is it!
I don't like dracthyr looks, I really don't like playing them and the transmogs issues sucks, still preservation is my favorite healer. I can't agree with the fact that Preservation is "barebone" to me I like it because I feel like the spec was so well made, there're so many spells interactions and little tricks to know and use. The simple fact that echo, as a spell, exist, transform your whole toolkit and gives you so many possibilities, from echoing to add more healing to a spell, to echoing a specific spell to share it's propriety like verdant embrace and the lifebind combos. There are spells like stasis that adds another layer of possibilities to the class. Lots of cds all unique plays different jobs in your kit. All of those tools create lots of possible combos to use and try I don't like when the healer I play have a clear solution to a problem and presvoker is the opposite of that. There are, of course, solutions you will use more often, but the fact that you have to much choice and agency as a player is what makes it fun. Hero talents come and add another layer of interaction with a whole new spell and a fun new gimick with chronowarden that adds lots of new possibilities. Still I can recognize the issues that might annoy people. The frontal cone of dream breath can be seen as restrictive, but it ends up being a fun mini-game because you have tools to circumvent it (Echo, lots of mobility, rescue). One issue I currently have with the class is Verdant Embrace, on top of being a great single target heal, it's a dash, it's the sole applicator of lifebind and it triggers Call of Ysera. All of these elements are important and I think that the spell currently has too many job and I would like them to be split, but except for that, and the fact that I have to be a dracthyr, I love pres ! Thanks for reading my little rant, I really like your vids it's always interesting to hear other people opinions. Happy New Year !
Mistweaver is by far the best Healer in the game, 2 completely different playstyles in 1 tree, great cooldowns, best armor type for mogs, the list goes on
I love Holy Priest the most because it's so easy. You only use flash heal, and heal and serenity. All our actual AOE heals are useless in M+. What you want to do is focus on Chaining peaples health who is the lowest, then using Serenitys on the others to get them up. You cycle that.
Thought you had missed Resto Druid as there was no time stamp and I was worried. Would agree unfortunately my favourite class is A tier right now, HPal is the class I never knew I wanted to play until about 3 weeks ago, now has higher IO than my Druid 😂
holy pala most fun out there. lightsmith not as fun as herald but very effective in high keys and makes it fun that way. holy pala is and will always be my favourite healing spec and spec overall
Evoker is the most fun healer since the learning curve is so high and it feels like you don’t have the tools to survive That uncertainty gives such a high
How I'd rate the healers I played... S tier: holy paladin A tier and below: every other healer I'm no healer main, so usually if I wanna heal I go holy paladin.
Mistweaver ruined healing for me... I love it so much I literally can't stand healing on anything else now LoL! I feel like I can be impactful at range and in melee, I'm impossible to lock down and I have actually meaningful battlefield control. It has everything I'm looking for in any roll, never mind healing. 🐼
Flameshaper and especially Engulf is the bane of preservation. I wouldn't shed a tear if they removed that stupid one trick spell. The rest of the kit is pretty fun but as you said it takes ages to get good at it.
I wish i could heal as a preservation evoker. I try really hard but i cant even heal a 2-man lvl 9 delve with a 600 ilvl. I can go all day as resto druid, or mistweaver monk.
Mistweaver easily. They'll be even better in 11.1 with what looks like way better healing when fighting a single target. Holy pal could be fun but it's such a clunky spec to play imo. Too many buttons and I hate cooldowns with rotating abilities.
Created my Mistweaver at the end of BFA and haven't looked back. Even when it was one of the weakest healers, it's just so much more fun to play than the other healers, I can't give it up.
I dont want to heal or tank or dps in m+ or hc, because people toxic. People are preaching for healers and tanks so they can go in to M+ dungeons as dps as they allways wants, and they do want toheal or tank themself. Maybe people that are preaching should tank or heal as much as they dps or maybe 1/3 heal, 1/3 tank and 1/3 dps, and then you can preach for more healers and tanks.
Have you guys ever sat down and listened to this guy? Worstly informed wow videos on the internet by far. Just rushes and puts out a video on anything, Half the stuff he says is incorrect information. Also repeats the same thing over and over. Not to mention he’s Terrible player. Never has a true opinion, just is on the fence about everything. Like dude has autism or something for sure. Hasn’t seen a hole or some grass in a while now. Based on what I’m seeing.
Mistweaver is everything holy pally wishes it was. Protect the mistweaver dev at all costs.
Yes
This is the way
I just watched a video on fistweaver, and now im thinking about healing for the first time
I’m 2800 currently on fistweaver, it’s lovely ;)
Fr, even some of the downsides of Mistweaver, like ''castweaving isn't an option''. Castweaving is amazing right now. Its not the meta choice but I have been having a blast with a PiP Master of Harmony build in raid. Its not ideal in dungeons sure, mostly because doing damage as a healer is so important and Mistweaver does a ton of damage when fistweaving, but still.
The spec overall just has never been better than it is right now, and the 11.1 changes will make it *even better*.
Mistweaver is a bunch of us high fiving and telling each other how much fun we all are.
I just picked up mistweaver and maaaaan its so much fun! It's the first healer I've really vibed with since the xpac launched.
Most fun healer haven't been released yet - a healer with dark theme. All healers so far use only nature or holy theme.
Disc is closing in on that vibe
I love your videos, but I gotta disagree on the priests. I feel like disc feels so boring, only really dpsing and not healing, where as holy with acheron or whatever it's called feels fun. I just wish they would make the holy nova not pull extra mobs if it hits them..
That's fair man!
I agree with this, disc is dpsing 90% of the time and applying atonements is an afterthought, it doesn't feel like playing a healer.
Honestly I want Archon to also buff divine star
I've made a new priest alt the last few days and I kind of disagree as well as agree.
Discipline feels like it has a very boring rotation. Its kind of like a ranged Mistweaver but without the fun of Mistweaver. Its visually pleasing but with the Mind Blast, Radiance, Penance, Smite spam rotation it just feels very bland and sterile.
Holy is a lot more reactive and you get more of a feel that you are in fact healing. But it is also very shallow and two-dimensional.
For me disc priest is most fun spec XD i
Hey !
What the name of the addon or aura you use to highlight the atornaments on the party frame ? the one that keeps blinking
Happy new year from Germany 🎉
But Mistweaver is since day 1 the most fun healer ever. Its never the best but fun is most important
Druid as a whole always felt like it needed a rework. I really hope they do before next expansion.
No surprise, resto druid is my preferred healer for many of the reasons you mentioned! Disc priest and mistweaver and giga fun as well but druid will always be #1 for me. Team Orange ftw! 🧡
I like everything about Preservation Evoker. But the hate on that slinky lizard doesnt really want me to play it
I mained mistweaver in dragonflight, man it was good. It looks so much better now. Im trying holy pally now and its a ton of fun, super unique. Tried shaman but its not a lot of fun. Good heals overall but it didnt feel great. It has everything youll need. Holy pally is so damn fun so far but it needs more damage and a bit more tuning. Outside of numbers its such fun to play, despite being worse than shaman or disc.
I HIGHLY recommend Chronowarden Preservation evoker. It’s very active and demanding but once you get a hang of it you just cycle and rotate all your spells with decreased CD and cast time, it’s very fast and very synergistic with itself
What’s your unit frame addon that shows atonement with the sparkly border?
It's just s weakaura. You cN easily set up that glowing frame for any spells you want
1 Mistweaver just as a melee player i can heal in melee and if i have actually no fun i can just switch to caster healstyle 😊
2 Shaman just because of totems and the fantasy to heal with water.
3 normaly paly but outside of cooldowns it feels bad the hps drops a lot. Hope they do a change there but till then of course disc priest this playstyle switches between holy and shadow is pure fun and finally powerful shields again 😊
Happy New Year!
This chanel is fire my favorite WoW content creators by far
They could go a long way toward reducing button bloat by consolidating some of the healing/damage abilities like they've done with Holy Shock. e.g. Combine Flash Heal & Smite to yield a healing component when used on friendly targets and a damage component when used on enemy targets. Not so freaking hard, is it!
Oracle Holy Priest in keys is the most fun I've had with the spec in a really long time. Excited for the upcoming priest changes coming next patch.
I was also sad when they took boomkin form, you just going to take my flap bro!?!?
Also I main mistweaver as a ranged/caster and I pump
As much as I wana get into Disc I just can’t man. Resto shaman for life
[Insert my standard 'bring back pre-Legion Disc Priest design' comment here.]
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@ I’d love to see a holy caster dps either pally or priest. Call it inquisitor or sm shit
I don't like dracthyr looks, I really don't like playing them and the transmogs issues sucks, still preservation is my favorite healer.
I can't agree with the fact that Preservation is "barebone" to me I like it because I feel like the spec was so well made, there're so many spells interactions and little tricks to know and use. The simple fact that echo, as a spell, exist, transform your whole toolkit and gives you so many possibilities, from echoing to add more healing to a spell, to echoing a specific spell to share it's propriety like verdant embrace and the lifebind combos.
There are spells like stasis that adds another layer of possibilities to the class. Lots of cds all unique plays different jobs in your kit. All of those tools create lots of possible combos to use and try
I don't like when the healer I play have a clear solution to a problem and presvoker is the opposite of that. There are, of course, solutions you will use more often, but the fact that you have to much choice and agency as a player is what makes it fun.
Hero talents come and add another layer of interaction with a whole new spell and a fun new gimick with chronowarden that adds lots of new possibilities.
Still I can recognize the issues that might annoy people. The frontal cone of dream breath can be seen as restrictive, but it ends up being a fun mini-game because you have tools to circumvent it (Echo, lots of mobility, rescue). One issue I currently have with the class is Verdant Embrace, on top of being a great single target heal, it's a dash, it's the sole applicator of lifebind and it triggers Call of Ysera. All of these elements are important and I think that the spell currently has too many job and I would like them to be split, but except for that, and the fact that I have to be a dracthyr, I love pres !
Thanks for reading my little rant, I really like your vids it's always interesting to hear other people opinions. Happy New Year !
Mistweaver is by far the best Healer in the game, 2 completely different playstyles in 1 tree, great cooldowns, best armor type for mogs, the list goes on
I love Holy Priest the most because it's so easy.
You only use flash heal, and heal and serenity.
All our actual AOE heals are useless in M+.
What you want to do is focus on Chaining peaples health who is the lowest, then using Serenitys on the others to get them up. You cycle that.
Cheers!
Thought you had missed Resto Druid as there was no time stamp and I was worried. Would agree unfortunately my favourite class is A tier right now, HPal is the class I never knew I wanted to play until about 3 weeks ago, now has higher IO than my Druid 😂
He talks about how easy it is to heal with Holy Paladin and in the video everyone dies in just the 8th key.
I gotta agree with resto shammy, it’s the only time I genuinely feel like falling asleep, for real
Blackout kicks make my brain tingles go weeeeee
You forgot the best healer, Blood DK lol
Makes all healers uncomfortable!
holy pala most fun out there. lightsmith not as fun as herald but very effective in high keys and makes it fun that way. holy pala is and will always be my favourite healing spec and spec overall
Evoker is the most fun healer since the learning curve is so high and it feels like you don’t have the tools to survive
That uncertainty gives such a high
Fun how the last part says dh vengeance 😂
but, vengeance >preservation?
@@MarcelianOnlinehaha you guys fixed it now I see 😂
Love watching your tier lists always fun.
How I'd rate the healers I played...
S tier: holy paladin
A tier and below: every other healer
I'm no healer main, so usually if I wanna heal I go holy paladin.
Mistweaver ruined healing for me... I love it so much I literally can't stand healing on anything else now LoL! I feel like I can be impactful at range and in melee, I'm impossible to lock down and I have actually meaningful battlefield control. It has everything I'm looking for in any roll, never mind healing. 🐼
“Holy paladin is poorly designed, hard to use, and extremely punishing. I love it” more power to you brother
Flameshaper and especially Engulf is the bane of preservation. I wouldn't shed a tear if they removed that stupid one trick spell. The rest of the kit is pretty fun but as you said it takes ages to get good at it.
I wish i could heal as a preservation evoker. I try really hard but i cant even heal a 2-man lvl 9 delve with a 600 ilvl. I can go all day as resto druid, or mistweaver monk.
Look Holy Paladin may have a plethora of problems, but... hammer smack. I get to smack. With hammer. And heal at the same time. It's so god damn fun!
For me, War withing killed all the fun of playing Holy Paladin. Glad you still able to enjoy it tho
Mistweaver easily. They'll be even better in 11.1 with what looks like way better healing when fighting a single target.
Holy pal could be fun but it's such a clunky spec to play imo. Too many buttons and I hate cooldowns with rotating abilities.
I like the Vengeance DH timestamp lol
Uhm, slight technical difficultiees xD
Lightsmith Avenging Crusader would be my way to play M+
Where Blood DKs at
What he said about evokers is so true, it’s cringe to see one 😅
there is no fun healer in this current m+ system.
I'm definitely playing resto shaman wrong. I run out of mana so quickly. Enjoying the hell outta my monk.
Resto druid hero trees are boring. They need to give adaptive swarm back too.
I used to main Pally. But the whole shift into melee has made me leave the spec.
"Having to play around cooldowns" THATS THE PROBLEM WITH EVER TANK SPEC, YOU PLAY AROUND DEF CD.
RIP Hpal
Created my Mistweaver at the end of BFA and haven't looked back. Even when it was one of the weakest healers, it's just so much more fun to play than the other healers, I can't give it up.
Represent brother, we need more mistweavers!
Love resto druid wish holy pala was stronger!!!
plz make a new :D video after the rewrork :D great video!
dat sweater :DDDD (Y)
if only holy shock healed way more and presvoker had 40 yard range ... :(
One can only dream!
I dont want to heal or tank or dps in m+ or hc, because people toxic. People are preaching for healers and tanks so they can go in to M+ dungeons as dps as they allways wants, and they do want toheal or tank themself. Maybe people that are preaching should tank or heal as much as they dps or maybe 1/3 heal, 1/3 tank and 1/3 dps, and then you can preach for more healers and tanks.
Disc priest is a trap
MW MONKS RISE UP
still i dont like monk
That bad? What's your go to then!
First true comment lol
:D
Have you guys ever sat down and listened to this guy? Worstly informed wow videos on the internet by far. Just rushes and puts out a video on anything, Half the stuff he says is incorrect information. Also repeats the same thing over and over. Not to mention he’s Terrible player. Never has a true opinion, just is on the fence about everything. Like dude has autism or something for sure. Hasn’t seen a hole or some grass in a while now. Based on what I’m seeing.
Healing is no fun at all in wow actually ! Sorry Wotlk and Mop healing was much more fun !