He helped reintroduce a new generation to Doctor Who and the first nu season was very British (a yank here). I would love to see Eccleston get another go.
only bc social media was in its infancy then. Rose, End of the World & all three Slitheen episodes were probably more hated than half of these that made the list.
I have to defend the 10th Doctor's regeneration. The tantrum was perfectly placed IMO. Nine told Rose in "Aliens in London" that he was 900 years old. Ten tells Wolf in TEOT that he is 906. Presumably we're speaking of Earth years. So at most, Ten is 6 years old in TEOT. For such a long lived race, 6 years must feel like a week. Of course, he's protesting that his time has been cut short and how much more he could have done had he only had more of it. If you were dying so young with so much left unaccomplished, you'd throw a frustrated fit too. Yes, yes, he's an alien, but it's been acknowledged several times that Ten is the most human, most emotional of the doctors. To me, it would have seemed strange if he had not acted that way. And yet...he gave up all that potential to save the life someone he cared about and had respect for. That's very Ten.
Honestly, putting The End of Time on this list feels like someone giving into their bias looking past all the strengths of the episode, as well as all the beauty behind 10's regeneration into 11, purely because whoever made the list still feels salty about 10 regenerating. It seems as though a lot of Doctor Who fans have a hard time coping with the concept of change and letting go of the past, which is ironic since the show constantly cycles through new characters and actors, that's basically it's thing, but also poetic, since their reaction perfectly mimicked 10's, which only makes his anger about regenerating even more valid as a writing concept.
@@spotsnspans5217 bro looking "past their bias" would make the episodes even shittier and less interesting, cuz without it the strengths of the episodes are.. - a couple great scenes that driven by two actors and murray gold and that's all i can think of, yet there's so much garbage in there i even cried during it cuz i grew up with 10 but i'd be embarrassed to introduce those eps to anyone else
River Song is one character in which Flanderization actually makes perfect sense. We're seeing her lifespan Backwards, with her starting as a fully grown, brilliant woman, and then seeing how she learns as she goes
@@brainlock72 Not really, as it's generally told backwards minus a few blips. The best analogy to describe it is that her story is told like a *river* (Ba dum chh) is formed. It's going in a direction quite clearly, but it's not really straight and flows from left to right unpredictably.
Or if the actual plot beats (the Cybermen, newly empowered, invading Gallifrey and converting Time Lords, while the Doctor and a ragged resistance fights a last stand) weren't underwhelmed by the fact that we already went through the exposition dump twice. We didn't need Sacha Dhawan narrating over an orange version of "Ascension"'s flashback moments. We just needed a fast-forwarded version of it while the Master goes: "The Timeless Child is the one who granted regeneration, The Other who moulded our society, who eventually retired from service in a forgotten Division. The Timeless Child... is you." (I think Tecteun should have actually been first revealed in Flux instead, because foreshadowing her would have been superfluous) That way, the actual story wouldn't actually feel so rushed, and we wouldn't have had to suffer through Dhawan's only dip in acting quality. I'm not actually bothered about the actual reveal, since it just means more Big Finish stuff, and we all need more Big Finish. Also, we had already been foreshadowed about it... in Morbin' Time. (do not make me repeat that pun)
Having it be either of them gives them too much power and importance. It makes far more sense for there to have BEEN a timeless child, fine, but have it be neither of them, just some never to be found other person who's hopefully living out their life (lives) on Barcelona The Planet. The master took the genetic racial memory that presumably ALL Time Lords have about the child, weave it into The Doctor's history with The Division (Chibnall just forgot that the Celestial Intervention Agency was a thing, didn't he?) and turn it into a clever lie. Boom, fixed.
Now, that might be the REAL story. I’ve maintained that we shouldn’t trust hero’s exposition from the villain. We can’t just assume that the Valeyard was the Doctor, nor that the Doctor was the timeless child. The Master being the Timeless Child would check a lot of boxes, for me.
I unironically stopped watching Dr Who at that point. I was busy besides that, but this episode made me realise I didn't care enough to continue lol. Might jumpt back on now RTD's back.
@@Scaldaver Exactly the same happened to me, but the recent specials prompted me to go back and catch up on the ones I'd missed and to my fairly profound surprise, Capaldi's doc may now be my favourite? Kill the Moon is still brain-meltingly awful, though
I have a personal headcanon about the Timeless Child: The Master is lying. He was there too, so the Matrix may have been tricked into showing HIS backstory. What if HE'S the Timeless Child? It would make more sense and make the Doctor more on line for what we expect.
The Timeless Children actually committed a cardinal sin of the Doctor: making them a special being. The Time Lord Victorious (Waters of Mars) was part of Ten's god complex which was quickly quashed, whereas the Doctor being some kind of legend was an earned reputation as someone who managed to succeed even in the most dire circumstances. But he was never supposed to be inherently special. Death In Heaven subverted the idea by giving him extreme power, only for him to reveal he was just "an idiot, with a box and a screwdriver, passing through, helping out".
Although there was the Cartmel Masterplan back in the 80s which would ultimately have revealed that he was the Other, one of the semi-legendary founders of Time Lord society alongside Rassilon and Omega.
An important note for love and Monsters, that kid who designed the Absorbaloff? He didn't like the end result, he had envisioned it as a massive monster bigger than a bus, not just Peter kay in a green rubber suit! I think it also doesn't help the episode that it is naturally held up to the other Doctor-Lite episodes: Blink and Turn Left, and compared to a genuinely chilling horror story debuting one of NuWho's most iconic monsters not to come from Classic, and a haunting What If showing just how much worse off the earth would be without the Doctor, it comes off lacking.
I never felt like the end of the Tennant era was telling us that we should dislike his predecessor. That seems like projection to me. I liked Matt from the moment he stepped on screen, and he ended up being my favorite Doctor of the modern series so far. The only time I felt like the show ever told us we shouldn't like a Doctor was when Peter regenerated into Colin. Colin's very first scene with Peri is so stand-offish and condescending, it's almost like the show is daring you to dislike the guy.
Love and Monsters may not be the best story and the monster is a wrong decision. Still, I found it a nice heartwarming pace change, and It was interesting to see what a doctor who episode looks like from a regular citizen's perspective.
@@CharlotteSunshine94 yes, the worst part was exactly the design of Abizorbaloff and the idea of keeping the face of his victims on his body. That was so unnecessary
I'll always defend that episode - sure it's one of the weaker ones in The 10th Doctor's run, and not the kind of episode we watch Doctor Who for, but it's pretty good still! For what it is, as a one off episode :) It's a good episode for Jackie, definitely. And the story serves as a clever metaphor for how fandoms arise - and how that can get ruined by "toxic" fans, who 'absorb' the joy away But then the Absorbalof reveals his true form and the episode completely derails unfortunately, imo. And the pavement slab thing was weird...
Agreed. I like the story overall of the group trying to find he doctor, but the execution of the abizorbaloff was awful. Overall not a horrible episode, but not great either.
Regarding: "In the Forest of the Night", I think the purpose of the episode was to partially focus on what was supposed to be that all the kids on that field trip were all "special needs" and that at that time to now, we are quick to medicate an issue before trying to understand why a person is acting or behaving in a contrary to perceived normalcy. Not encouraging children to stop taking their medication. But, it's easy to takeoff with a subject in a children's show, like the end problem people can't seem to see in the Pixar/Disney Movie "Inside Out" which teaches kids that running away brings families together resolving a child's problems. No one seems to have seen this issue. The other focus was that the trees are here to save us so we shouldn't bo so keen to clean sweep the remaining Forrest's because without them we will all die, that the world needs to work on its conservation now more than ever because in reality those trees we genuinely need aren't going to suddenly grow just to save all our sorry destructive asses!
There's also the fact that how comes the Doctor has no knowledge of the planet being helped in this way before? Considering the amount of time that he has spent here in all different eras. This could also be said about Orphan 55, she should already know that is what is going to happen if humanity doesn't stop pollution etc. Its one of my biggest qualms about new who because it more or less makes his past involvement with Earth like it occurred in a different programme...
@@princeeverlove I wouldnt go that far. I personally think 13 was a really good Doctor. It was just the scripts that were bad. Jodie's acting and performance were great, but even the best characters will fail if the writing is bad
@@willjohnson9667 THIS. I have no problem with #13 in general. The issue for me is it became way too much more ensemble and almost crime procedural feeling. Hard to explain. Just over all a very odd tone. There were a couple of 13s episodes I liked, can't remember which ones, but it was because they felt more "Doctor Who" than "Detective Who Squad". It's a shame Jodi didn't get a chance with more 'classic new who' stories.
The End of Time being "an afterthought" is true, in a book on Russels time on the show he talks about his original finale being very small scale but the beebs told him to make it a big finale event
I think my issue with Clara i think was that I felt too much of the story relied around her when she was a companion. She gets a Tardis. She gets to technically live in a space between time, so she doesn't HAVE to go to Galifrey and die unless she wants to. She gets to travel time and space with an immortal who was also just kinda forgiven for her actions. And she is forever responsible for saving the doctor in any time, as she exists born and aware, in every part of the Doctor's life, even helping him choose his exact Tardis. Jenna is a good actress. I'm just not a huge fan of the characters' plot.
I get that the finale for 10 set up resistance to liking 11. However we were already resistant because of the bait and switch of them dangling David Morrissey as the 'Next Doctor' for 6 months before that Christmas special. He seemed like a cross between 10 and maybe 8, and was an exciting choice. Matt rolling in channeling the Second Doctor felt weird and like a mistake at first (he ofcourse was amazing, but that doesn't speak to preconceived notions). As for Love and Monsters, it is a product of it's time. A time when we all knew a kid won a contest, and so we all treated it like a picture your kid draws at school in the first grade. We smiled, and put it up on our fridge, uncriticized. Thank god we are so much more cruel and petty now, and can call it like it is.
The End of Time part 1 and 2 are two of my favourite episodes of Doctor Who. Where has the hate come from? It's not nearly comparable to Let's Kill Hitler, Fear Her and Sleep No More.
@@nathanjordon6950 Well they're right when saying the story went nowhere any time it went near the Vinvocci and the Naismiths. And I think, for those of us who aren't fond of it, RTD's final bits of writing for David were horrible. After he found out he had to save Wilf he threw a childish temper tantrum. Then after he does save him he goes off to "get my reward". I'm sorry, what? No Doctor has ever treated regeneration in such a puerile way before. (Although I'll agree with you about Fear Her and Sleep No More, which are practically legendary regarding just how horrifically bad they are. I have no idea why they aren't on this list!)
@@ladycplum David Tennant had a long run in the show but in terms of lifespan he only lived for 6 years while all other incarnations lived in the range of hundreds. As well as having a large range of emotions and being regarded as the most human incarnation of the doctor it's really not as "horrible" or unreasonable for him to act that way
actually the end of time was one of my favorite episodes, exactly because the things you mentioned as contra. just that they ruined it afterwards again. and what i mean is the relation between the doctor and the master. in the predecessor the doctor and the master were shown to share a deep bond that's beyond love and hate. and it felt like the doctors biggest wish was to gain him as a friend. but the master was suddenly not a random villain. he was actually sick. when he looked into the time vortex he got this weird thing implanted in his head causing him to go completely nuts on something like a bloody rampage it wasn't only a climax for the doctor, but also for the master. it was a beautiful scene, where all the hatered, all the mental illness that has been forced on him accumulated to his rage unleashing on rassilon, doing the one thing he never could've imagined. saving the life of the doctor who is his arch enemy. this moment felt like the possibility of the doctor and the master becoming friends becoming real. and in the next seasons i continued to get up my hopes so much, even as there was a slight let-down when missy then appeared, being all destroyed by that horribly whittacker-accident. when i watch doctor who i feel with the persons inside. and i feel with the doctor. and this is why i don't want him to suffer. i want him to get a friend. a true friend. one that doesn't betray him with his twin. that doesn't dump him because she got something better. that doesn't throw him away just because he couldn't respond to her feelings and, what's more impo^rtant, that can live as long as he does. through all his incarnations. the master would be the perfect companion. those two could be incredibly strong and beautiful. and what's important: happy! and i think the doctor deserves a bit of happyness. not a short moment where he's revising his previous life and reminds the faces from those who left him.
I mean... "Let's Kill Hitler" is for me, one of the best River Song episodes. It's not Flanderization if the first time we see her, she has just left the Singing Towers, after 26 years of "Domestic bliss"
Probably one of my favorite River Song moments it's the one in the episode The pandorica opens part 2 where she's fighting the Dalek and it says she's an ally of the doctor so she will show Mercy and then she says I'm riversong check your database again and then she kills it after it asks for mercy best moment ever Mariah.
Nightmare in Silver was written as a 2 parter by Gaiman but due to time constraints he was forced to condense it into a single episode. As for Arachnids in the U.K. the story might have worked better if the referenced Metebelis III from Pertwee's Planet of the Spiders.
If The Timeless Child has been an original character, now that would have been something that could have also worked. Just picturing it now: After finding out that an innocent child from a completely different universe was taken and experimented on by ancient Time Lords, The Doctor would be horrified upon discovering this cruel untold peace of Time Lord history. Upon defeating the Master, she would then make it her mission to find this innocent child and protect them - or at the very least, make sure they were alright. That whole scenario could lead to so many interesting directions for Who. For the Doctor, for the storylines / arcs overall. Heck, maybe Series 13 could have leaned into this as well, with it being revealed that the Flux was created by the 'beings' from the Timeless Child's universe, who were seeking retribution for the child's absence. Having only just now discovered what universe they went too. Who were they, why did they want the child back? That too opens so many more doors for far more interesting storylines, instead of the one we got. :(
While I enjoy the channel in general, one thing I've noticed during my time watching content here is that a lot of the topics seem to repeat the same entries to death and often reuse the same words and references. I can't be the only one who notices these things, surely?
It's a good thing we're all different. I tend to give Arachnids in the UK a passing grade, mainly for the scene at the very end inside the TARDIS. The End of Time I do think is the best story of the Tennant Specials Year. And, while I do agree with all the points listed about Nightmare in Silver, it is my guilty pleasure episode for Part 2 of Series 7.
Thank you for your explanation of The Tsuranga Conundrum belonging on this list. I know it’s all in fun and out of love. I TOTALLY agree that the Pting is the only memorable part. But with just a little reflection, my love of the Pting wins out and i still love the episode.
I actually LIKE Nightmare In Silver! Cause I could never stand the Cybus variant of the Cybermen! I've HATED them with a passion since they were first shown in the series! So to have them redesigned in this episode was like a breath of fresh air to me.... Now, if we can have a different variant of the gold and bronze Daleks and have them stick in the series, I'll be one fricken HAPPY Doctor Who fan! I CANNOT stand that look for them! I'd take the new paradigm Daleks or even the earth designed Daleks from Jodie's era over those horrible gold and bronze ones ANY day!!!
I will be controversial but I loved Love & Monsters. Ok it’s a bit daft and it’s not the most credible episode in the shows history but we’ve got to remember, it was the FIRST EVER Doctor-lite episode and that threw viewers off (including me). Also it came after a dark 2-parter with the Satan Pit and was about to hit the finale, so there needed to be a bit of lightness. Also, it was also good to see the doctors world from the eyes of others whether it’s Jackie or Elton’s childhood encounter with the doctor.
In "In the Forest of the Night", I agree with the Doctor. We should listen to what the child is trying to say long before we "shove pills down their throats"... Children sometimes have a hard time expressing themselves but with some help, they learn quite fast. I don't say "Don't give a child their medication at all cost", but sometimes parents do it for their own convenience and not for the child's benefit. And that disgusts me. I don't think you got the right message here... :)
Hate is a strong word... I don't think we need to "hate" these episodes, just recognise the problems. There were always going to be variations in quality over the years for such a long-running series. I will still enjoy them.
Yeah, that was a surprise! On the most hated list are 3 stories with Clara and 3 with the 13th Doctor! 😂😂😂 Now, I would attest that the reason for the Clara episodes being on this list don't really have to do with Clara at all, even though she's a divise Companion to say the least, but the poor quality of the episodes themselves and she just happens to be in them. The fact that there are 3 episodes with 13 is a little harder to explain away since she was even more divise with certain fans. Again, the blame here can be laid more at Chibnall's feet Than Jodi Whitaker, but it just gives fodder to the trolls who didn't like Jodi in the first place to hate on her even more. Oh well, we'll have to see in 10 years time if there will be any newer future episodes of Who that can knock any of these episodes off this list, though I doubt that The Timeless Children will ever drop out of the top spot simply due to how it tried to mess with the lore and origins of the Doctor itself.
As someone who dislikes River, I can agree with Ellie about the backstory. Let’s Kill Hitler is basically her introduction, so of course she’s different than in Silence in the Library. Timeless Children touched on the Brain of Morbius, where we see other incarnations of the Doctor. It basically just followed that canon. Hartnell is still of the first of THIS version of the Doctor, post mind-wipe. And that’s the most important.
Not only that, there's also the still existing setup of the Cartmel Masterplan in the Seventh Doctor era, hinting that there was much more to the Doctor's past then what we knew. All the evidence was there of past Doctors. Everyone just simply ignored it.
Love & monsters was okay for me due to the episode about what happens to people when they've met the doctor. To me I was hoping for a OMG moment at the end like Elton was a time lord or a child of a ex companion. Agree with all of these episodes too
You know, it says a lot about the episode when I was shocked when you said “hell bent” thinking it was Heaven Sent because I forgot that one even existed 😂
the worst part of the timeless child is the absolute reversion of a pretty significant theme with the doctor. they arent supposed to be some special chosen one, they are an idiot with a box and a screwdriver who goes around and fixes things. the master should have been the timeless child, it would have given alot of context to why they just cant seem to be a genuinely good person. even when we see missy being probably the least unhinged incarnation shes still noticeably on the crazy side
Hell Bent was great and the people that didn't like it didn't understand Moffat's approach to writing series 9. The Doctor was the villain, and Hell Bent showed us a version of reality where he goes off the deep end to get what he wants.
But did it had to be about Clara though? All the buildup of going back to his lost home, all the suspense regarding the Doctor's past and an mysterious being, just for a latest companion whose popularity and importance wasn't exactly on par with Sarah Jane or Rose. I think most people understood very well of Moffat's approach, but that didn't make his method more appealing.
Nightmare in Silver is one of my favourite episodes. Let's Kill Hitler is ok I don't hate it. River song is also one of my favourite characters and Alex Kingston is one of my favourite actresses. Into the forest could be better some of the children are annoying. What I don't like about End of Time It's how long it is. With love and monsters if you pause on the image of the newspaper Saxon lead the pole with 64% that's the first reference to the Masters Saxon.
I was one of those people who did not want to accept eleven. Fortunately however it only took his first episode to convince me that i absolutely adored him and he went on to be one of the best doctors. Eleven making the Atraxi flee in terror simply by telling them who he is one of the best moments of Doctor Who, it was that moment that convinced me he was a worthy successor to ten.
I actually liked a lot of the episodes on this list and actually hate many episodes that most of the fandom claim as being the best. I don't know what that says about me but I mostly watch because I enjoy the escape from reality.
If The Timeless Child is not number 1, I'll call bullshit. I would add "Fugitive of the Judoon", not because it's a bad episode, but because Jo Martin shows us what we could have gotten as the Doctor instead of the plank of wood that was Whittaker.
Bernard Cribbins reduced me to tears.... i cried like ... i don't know what ... after watching his performance, even more than at Oswin's desperation at being trapped in a Darlek. He broke my heart even more
Imo Moffat dropped the ball on End of Time, not RTD. 11 immediately showing off all of his quirks but none of his complexity really sets a bad tone, moreso than 10 reluctantly saying goodbye. All we needed was some kind of transition -- 11 showing any hint of lingering regret before being jolted by the crashing tardis into his new self would have brought out the complexity we eventually get with 11 from the start, and made a lot more people open to him. Instead we get this weird whiplash moment where it feels like you're watching an entirely different show about an entirely different character. (That being said, while I'm generally a fan of 10's grand finale, my god the way The Master was written and the accompanying cartoony CGI was awful. Love the rest of that episode, constantly cringing at him.) Sidenote but I do really like 11. I just think he was frequently short shafted by the writing, and his introduction is one of the worst examples of that. Sometimes I get the vibe that Moffat was so focused on River Song that The Doctor was an afterthought. (Love River tho. One of the best characters of all time.)
"In the Forest of the Night" was DEFINITELY a filler episode. Flatline was such an amazing episode beforehand, being a mix of funny and heart-racing. In the Forest of the Night just wasn't it, and was likely just an excuse to show Missy's power or somethin
For me, Love and Monsters was a kind of Scooby-Doo episode. I found it funny. I mean there's a cute guy dancing around his flat to Mr. Blue Sky. To get more British than that, add tea.
So funny story about insects and spiders--they do not feel pain the same way we do. So while that large spider might've suffocated to death if it wasn't shot, it actually probably would have been the more peaceful option of the two. The way pain works with spiders is that it is more sensing "I am missing a limb" or things of the sort--lack of oxygen puts them to sleep first and then over a longer period of time (well probably shorter for a large arachnid needing more air) it may then die. That's why researchers can put spiders and flies in the freezer or in CO2 for periods of time without really harming them--they don't feel that suffocation and instead their metabolic rate drops and they go to sleep (well in a way what we'd call sleep).
I'm confused, where does it say that William hartnell isn't still the first doctor. We all know 'The Doctor' is a chosen name, chosen and even given up during the time war. William hartnell can still be the first 'The Doctor' as that was when he originally chose the name. Before that, who knows what their name was, maybe it was 'The Timeless Child'. Flip sake, Steven moffett did an entire series about what the doctors real name is. And yes, you could argue that the Ruth Doctor was before hartnell but there is no conclusive evidence of that, all we know is that the Ruth Doctor is a previous regeneration. The Doctor could of easily had their memory or part of their memory erased twice. Once before becoming the Doctor, resetting them to be a child and completely erasing everything before hartnell and then a second time, only erasing one regeneration memory, ie the Ruth Doctor, which would be between the 2nd and 3rd doctor. Season 6B anyone?
The timeless child was so confusing. And then they just dropped it. Which is even more frustrating because I wanted clarity on it. But yeah, I feel so bad that Jodie Whitaker is featured in so many of the most hated episodes. They could have done so much for her, she had so much potential. The writing just let her down a little.
The timeless children wasn't a god awful episode. It would be fitting for this backstory to be the master's, but aside from this episode completely rewriting the show's history, there are so many fantastic moments in this episode. For example, the Master has probably been more of a threat in this entire episode than he was....like ever. He wanted to use the dead corpses of his own species, to create a race of Cybermen that could regenerate! Secondly, the Cybermen in this episode have a very retro looking design, with the classic looking heads, modern chest plates and some nifty shoulder pads that give the whole look a unique flair. There's also Ashad who is still being his menacing, kick ass self. Finally, the timeless child element. I don't care who you are or what you say, but this does not take away anything from William Hartnells time as the doctor. He will forever and always be Doctor number 1 no matter what kind of backstory you throw his way. He is the doctor. "The original, you might say" Also it finally (kinda) gives an explanation to why the timelords gave 11 an extra regeneration cycle: they did not want him to find out that he was a literal god. Again, we all have our opinions on this episode, but I would like to bring up the positive stuff that is seemingly neglected whilst talking about this episode. Besides there are much worse episodes to bitch about, some in this video 😂
I don’t think the Time Lords didn’t want 11 to find out he had infinite regenerations, because he didn’t. The Master told 13 that they limited the amount of regenerations to 12, so when they made the Doctor a regular Time Lord, they also put limitations on his regenerations, making him only have 12 instead of infinite. So William Hartnell was still the 1st Doctor, just the 1st Doctor of the new regeneration cycle, kinda like 12 being the first of his regeneration cycle. It doesn’t take away anything about who the Doctor is, it honesty only adds to it, and it makes sense as to why the Time Lords keep going to them when they’re threatened or the universe needs saving Edit: I do understand why people hate it, but I just think it’s a pretty cool twist and not awful
I’ll give props where props is due the cybermen look there best he but that’s all I’m giving it the master regressed quite frankly what happened to missy master and how did he come back when he literally killed himself saying he couldn’t regenerate again and biggest threat not really like I would argue that 10th doctors master forget his name think it’s Simon something he was fantastic and was the biggest threat declaring war on the universe with toglaphane and black hole ships then u had missy’s cybermen where she made a never ending army where the more they kill the more they recute and then galifray first why bring it back if your gonna destroy it again there’s no point it could of been so much better used and second are we really gonna pretend that the master could kill all of the time lords yes there not at there peak as in the time war but they are still dam strong such as the tunduscan barrier protecting galifry what happened to that or the gaulent that can kill time lords or any number of things it was so stupid then finally the timeless child I’m not gonna go deep on this for how rubbish it was the worst piece of story writing in all of history as it literally killed and destroyed doctor who before the doctor was an unimpressive time lord very average nothing special who set off to explore helping out whenever he can so much so that his actions and experiences made him the man he is today he wasn’t born to be special or that but now he his basically saying no matter who u are if your not born special then you won’t amount to anything regardless of what you do to me that’s stupid and destroys the very ideal and foundation which doctor who was built on
Huge canon alterations aside I just find TTC kinda boring, lots of exposition delivered in a very standard way. Sacha was wasted too. It had potential though.
i feel like 9 and 10 were the same doctor but then 11 was a completely new character. same with the change from 12 to 13. 11 to 12 wasn't as good as 9 to 10 but felt like the same character. it feels like we have 3 separate doctors.
I couldn't stand Matt Smith originally but he's actually my favourite Doctor and I've been around since the Third Doctor! I really love Nightmare in Silver, apart from the very last line which is disturbing as so unlike the Doctor. I loved the story and Smiths acting was phenomenal which it would have to be to carry off the situation the Doctor was in. The first time I saw Love and Monsters I was just *cringing*, every aspect really jarred with me but then after a few years I saw it twice more. I don't mind it. I saw a compilation video where the creator Loved the episode and we, myself at the time, slated them for it. But we All love different things, we all see the Doctor differently and the Doctor means different things to us all. I wish more would see it that way 😔❤️
Had to Google who the third Dr was, yep, started there meself, love the program, had some moments but, hey, it's t.v., so it's all good. Bring on the 60!😁
I feel really bad for 13. She's a great actress but she was given such bologna to work with. I love Doctor Who and was excited for a female doctor... but I was so disappointed. It took me months to actually get through all of it.
I could see Moffat's intentions for Hell Bent coming a mile off after Face The Raven. He could never let people just die. Remember how many times Rory perished in the show? I imagine he got a bit bored by the end of it! As it stands, I think there are way worse Moffat episodes that don't appear here. My additional/alternate picks/dishonourable mentions would be Kill The Moon, or "when Dr Who was anti-abortion but in a nonsensical sci-fi way" (before anyone asks, yes I am aware that telescopic pregnancy is a thing), and Dark Water/Death In Heaven. Everything about that two-parter felt like utter contrivance; Danny Pink's death, the reason for his leaving the army, the "don't cremate me" thing going basically nowhere, the half-baked fan service of a "cameo" from Robot Zombie Brigadier, and the literal deus ex machina to bring back the dead child from Danny's past. Capaldi really gave Dr Who his all, but by God the script quality of his era was shockingly inconsistent. Moffat thinks he's so clever but he really isn't (see also: that scene where Sherlock & Irene essentially use magic to figure out someone was killed by a boomerang that literally nobody else knew about because Moffat thinks "deductive reasoning" means pulling the answer out of your arse so there's more room for your head).
I think Jodie Whittaker got the short end of the stick when it came to the writing and never got the chance to truly shine as The Doctor. Also why wasn't the episode with the space moth hatching out of the moon on this list?
My most hated episode was the Idiot's Lantern. Mainly because of the disappointing villain who was super interesting at first and then only ever said ... HUUUUUNGRYYYY. And even more, because of the diabolical ending. Asking a victim of domestic abuse to "rescue" the abuser, or asking a teenage son to fix the dad .... beyond messed up in my books.
Agree, I don't think such a sweeping statement can be made as Tennant clearly has the benefit of time on his side and far too many people who are too young to have seen older Doctors and don't bother to watch it.
So, I agree with most of this list, it's actually pretty well put together. The only one I kinda disagree with is silver nightmare, but then again I'm an old who head and I remember stories about the great cyber war all over the place, and the new cyber men never felt as threatening. Like the cybermen from eathshock were far more terrifying. The concept the cybermen could adapt like they did(once plugged into the doctors mind at least if my destroyed brain is remembering correctly) give more weight to the silly, if still old school, weakness to gold..... I thought they might be trying to establish that there was only one thing they couldn't adapt too and that would be a part of the story. Of course they didn't but I think overall it a better story, not a top story, but not a top ten worst. And while I love the acress for river song I've never liked the character past her first apearance..... please don't hate me
I feel like part of the problem with River is that the pairing with her and 11 is god awful. I can't tell if it's the writing or if Alex and Matt just can't act opposite one another (despite each being great in other contexts). Silence in the Library works so well partly because River plays off 10 amazingly. She also plays well off 12 imo. But when she's in the same room as 11 everything is just tense and awkward. And of course that's the vast majority of her screentime. I love River but I really wish we'd gotten her story with any other doctor. 11 is just too much of a dorky asexual goofball. Love him, but wayyyyyy wrong vibes for River Song. (To be clear, I don't just mean the romantic pairing. That's the worst offender, but they don't even have good friendship/companion chemistry. I could get past an awkward romance with an otherwise compelling personality pairing. But they have neither to the point where it can be uncomfortable to watch sometimes.)
I always loved 10s tantrum because part of what makes it so painful is that there isn’t even a single moment of hesitation on whether or not he will sacrifice himself for wilf, 10 immediately knows what he will do and so do we. we see him for once let out the emotion he always feels but hides for the sake of others.
I still believe that when Elton was seeing and hearing Ursula in the slab, we were seeing things from His Mental perception. All the times Without the Recording border is the True perception.
Honestly, I think the idea that the 13 is a control freak would've been a great idea. It would have given us something to latch on to for her character, especially because she was famously underdeveloped in her first series, but there's still the possibility that future doctors could have this trait, so... yeah.
Love and Monsters should have been #2. It was a literal example to everyone of what not to do when writing for Doctor Who. and #1 would simply be "The Chibnall Era" which we all decide never happened, and retconned out of existence like bad fanfiction.
I hate how The Tsuranga Conundrum had a fantastic set up for a really good weeping angel episode. Its a claustrophobic environment with nowhere to run from the fastest most malevolent thing in the universe and the doctor is not on her A-game form a serious injury. basically Alien but with a weeping angel
Great video. Just to add my opinion: 10. I absolutely agree, this episode had the potential to be really great, but falls down the hill pretty quickly. I also hate spiders, so it's very triggering and I probably won't rewatch that episode ever again. 9. I don't agree to this AT ALL. I love Neil Gaiman's style, which is very recognizable and works wonderfully with Doctor Who. True, there's a lot of stuff going on and it could be a little bit much, but I'm okay with that. I love dense plots and I think the passing is on point. Gets you on the edge of your sit the entire time. Besides, Matt Smith is OUTSTANDING on this one. 8. Again, I can't disagree more. Hell Bent is devastating and, to me, the perfect conclusion to Clara and The Doctor's relationship. And yes, I get what you mean, seems a little pointless to spend millions of years grieving just to lose her. But that's a very Doctor thing to do. He sacrifices himself to save her and giving her the chance of a life, of adventure, even if that means he won't see nor remember her ever again. 7. No, how could ANYONE hate this episode? I mean, it's not the best, but c'mon. It's really funny and enjoyable. Helps you understand a whole lot more the story of River and the Doctor. Everything falls in place. AND RORY PUNCHES HITLER ON THE JAW, FFS. 6. Oh, yes, this one was terrible. I might not say is a bad episode, but it's so boring and sloooooooow, I had a hard time watching it. I liked the idea behind it, but the execution just wasn't right. 5. WHAT?! And I know I'm paraphrasing 10th here, but... WHAT?! I don't even know where to start. The End of Time is one of the best episodes of the entire NuWho. It's so action packed, so dramatic, so sad, so emotional, so full of chaos and epicness and iconic moments. David here is ridiculously sublime. Completes 10th' story so well and shatters your heart a thousand times to say the least. The last 15-20 minutes are the most heartbreaking thing I've ever seen on fiction. I literally can't see even a clip from it without feeling a huge lump on my throat and tearing up. I guess the only negative aspect is the CGI which yes, aged quite rubbishly, but I don't really mind and it's not that important. Also I wish to add that I don't think 10th antagonized 11th. It's clear that 10th didn't want to reincarnate because he loved so much who he was and the people he related with. But it's the very thing that he can't escape. He must confront that and accept his time is up (or rather, was taken from him, but you know what I mean). It's not 11th fault, it's just how it is, and it's important they address it in order for us to fully get the nature of the reincarnations. Specially since 9th into 10th's hardly felt as a farewell and David stamped his way into the series, making us fall in love with him almost in an instant. Anyways. Seriously I can't understand how people could hate this episode. 4. Totally agre with this one. They damaged the figure of the Doctor and everything she should stand for. I don't have much to add, it's so rubbish it's not even worth it. 3. Oh, I was waiting for it to appear. This episode is a complete mess. I like the idea of having a full Doctor related story without actually getting the Doctor involved and thanks to this attempt, Blink was possible, so maybe that's the price to pay. But oh god, the ending... *shivers* 2. I didn't even remember this one, that's how bad it is. That's all I have to say. 1. And... Of course. I think this is the episode that made me left the series for good, having me returning to it recently to watch the rest and get ready for the specials and season 14. I really hope T. Davies finds a way around to fix this canonically speaking, because it's a giant screw up.
Right on the money with Let's Kill Hitler. That episode was Moffat at his worst. Too many half baked plot threads, lame twists and reveals with little to no build up, and just that seasons overarching story just bogging down so much of that season.
Feel so bad for Jodie Whittaker they did her so dirty writing wise, basically making what was already a pretty hard job of being the first woman to play the doctor harder by just writing her to be incompetent and needy for no reason
Now that bigeneration is a thing, the other end of the 6th Doctor trial of a timelord is possible. The Master is present in the form of the Celestial Toymaker's gold tooth. The Valyard is now possible. They can use this opportunity to undo the fever dream of chibnalls destructive run, and make the whole last Doctor's run a glitch in the timelord matrix.
I'm actually surprised there's no mention of "Fear her" or any Mark Gatiss episode ! But overall, i agree with the video. Except for "The end of time". It's not a perfect episode, but it's still better thant the part 1, and it delivers some of the most emotional scenes. Clearly, the 20 last minutes are so ... special to me
I actually really enjoy love and monsters, the absorbaloff to me was quite freaky as a kid, because all it took was one touch and youd get sucked into him.
Nightmare in Silver is one of my favorite episodes because of the Cybermen update since Gaiman was going for a "Mondas meets Cybus and they become one" explanation. You also need to remember that these are the Cybermen at the end of millions of years of evolutions and upgrades, so I can buy them being able to beat laser beams because they are no longer mere Cybermen, they are CyberGODS! I will give you the annoying children though. I also felt no hatred towards Matt Smith since I officially got into the series on Series 5, and then went back and saw the other episodes, so I like Matt Smith more than David Tennant.
One thing I absolutely didn't like about The End of Time is that it's without a doubt one of the absolute WORST Master stories in the 60 year run of the show, and that stems almost entirely from poor writing. The Master is reduced from a scheming Bond Villain mastermind in a nice suit who is constantly 3-4 steps ahead of the Doctor for a significant portion of the story, to an occasionally X-Rayed Hobo who's hungry all the time, repeats himself a lot like a nervous tic, and quite literally lucks into his entire plan, with the Master simply capitalizing on what Naismith had already done and having given his own plan maybe like FIVE MINUTES' CONSIDERATION. It's furthermore never made clear what the Master actually plans to DO after converting mankind into duplicates of himself, because he himself doesn't seem to be thinking that far ahead, and Rassilon hijacks the plot soon after. The Master is reduced to a hollow shell of the antagonist he was before. Yes he gets a few emotional moments with Ten, but there's little else about his writing in this episode that really would strike anybody as him being "The Master" if the show weren't beating us over the head with his name throughout. He doesn't have the look, the behavior, the intelligence, or even the dour disregard for what he sees as his inferiors. He's a Hungry Hungry Hobo, and he screams a lot. Oh, and he can do Sith Lightning now, because... reasons. The idea of a Master driven mad by the state of Living Death, and determined to survive at any and all costs, was done MUCH better in "The Deadly Assassin" and "The Keeper of Traken", and there isn't enough time in the story to really narratively focus on his anger at what Gallifrey did to him, because it's only established they did anything to him at all in the second act of the final episode. It's a real waste of the character, which was a shame because John Simm proved he could stand alongside Delgado and Ainley as one of the best actors to have played the role in any medium in his prior appearance in "The Sound of Drums + Last of the Time Lords". His talents were comparatively useless in End of Time. Fortunately, Steven Moffat gave him a much better final send off with "World Enough and Time + The Doctor Falls", where Simm was able to really shine for one final scheme.
I like Riversong too.....I even have a cat named after her, (Yes it was mostly because we had a Russian Blue named Doctor who...may he rest in peace, I had him since I was 3, so I was really attached when it was time for him to go). But yeah, my family still loves her of course like all the cats we had, but now she gets to be the old fat and wise cat of the household.
End of Time is one of my favorite Who stories, but Part One is too long. The Obama subplot goes nowhere except to set up his becoming the Master. Why couldn't they just cut to the White House to reveal the Master as the President?
I'd completely forgotten about Orphan 55. I'm one of those people that dropped the show with the whole Timeless child thing. After Capaldi, nothing else is cannon.
Love and Monsters was only made cuz the bbc was running out of time on the schedule for filming. Because of this, the episode was filmed at exactly the same time as the impossible planet/ the satan pit hence why the doctor and rose had very little screen time in it. I did enjoy the episode tbh
No 9th Doctor episodes on this list.
He’s too untouchable.
What a legend.
Some episodes would have been cheesy but he just sells it.
He always was Fantastic!
He helped reintroduce a new generation to Doctor Who and the first nu season was very British (a yank here). I would love to see Eccleston get another go.
It helps that he only had 13 episodes. Doesnt really leave a lot of time for him or the writers to fuck it up.
only bc social media was in its infancy then. Rose, End of the World & all three Slitheen episodes were probably more hated than half of these that made the list.
I have to defend the 10th Doctor's regeneration. The tantrum was perfectly placed IMO. Nine told Rose in "Aliens in London" that he was 900 years old. Ten tells Wolf in TEOT that he is 906. Presumably we're speaking of Earth years. So at most, Ten is 6 years old in TEOT. For such a long lived race, 6 years must feel like a week. Of course, he's protesting that his time has been cut short and how much more he could have done had he only had more of it. If you were dying so young with so much left unaccomplished, you'd throw a frustrated fit too. Yes, yes, he's an alien, but it's been acknowledged several times that Ten is the most human, most emotional of the doctors.
To me, it would have seemed strange if he had not acted that way. And yet...he gave up all that potential to save the life someone he cared about and had respect for. That's very Ten.
Why is The Doctor not allowed to be angry in the face if his own mortality? And I loved Matt Smith.
best take on it ever 👏🏿
I didn't think of it like that. Very good point!
Honestly, putting The End of Time on this list feels like someone giving into their bias looking past all the strengths of the episode, as well as all the beauty behind 10's regeneration into 11, purely because whoever made the list still feels salty about 10 regenerating. It seems as though a lot of Doctor Who fans have a hard time coping with the concept of change and letting go of the past, which is ironic since the show constantly cycles through new characters and actors, that's basically it's thing, but also poetic, since their reaction perfectly mimicked 10's, which only makes his anger about regenerating even more valid as a writing concept.
@@spotsnspans5217 bro looking "past their bias" would make the episodes even shittier and less interesting, cuz without it the strengths of the episodes are..
- a couple great scenes that driven by two actors and murray gold
and that's all i can think of, yet there's so much garbage in there
i even cried during it cuz i grew up with 10 but i'd be embarrassed to introduce those eps to anyone else
River Song is one character in which Flanderization actually makes perfect sense. We're seeing her lifespan Backwards, with her starting as a fully grown, brilliant woman, and then seeing how she learns as she goes
Her story is NOT told backwards, it’s a big plate of times wimey spaghetti.
*backwards
@@brainlock72 It generally is though. There are few exceptions to her course in time compared to The Doctor's. Also:
*timey-wimey spaghetti.
@@mousermind That's exactly how I spelt it, you probable weirdo
@@brainlock72
Not really, as it's generally told backwards minus a few blips.
The best analogy to describe it is that her story is told like a *river* (Ba dum chh) is formed.
It's going in a direction quite clearly, but it's not really straight and flows from left to right unpredictably.
The Timeless Child could have worked if it had been the Master's backstory.
Yes!
couldn't agree more
Or if the actual plot beats (the Cybermen, newly empowered, invading Gallifrey and converting Time Lords, while the Doctor and a ragged resistance fights a last stand) weren't underwhelmed by the fact that we already went through the exposition dump twice. We didn't need Sacha Dhawan narrating over an orange version of "Ascension"'s flashback moments. We just needed a fast-forwarded version of it while the Master goes:
"The Timeless Child is the one who granted regeneration, The Other who moulded our society, who eventually retired from service in a forgotten Division. The Timeless Child... is you." (I think Tecteun should have actually been first revealed in Flux instead, because foreshadowing her would have been superfluous)
That way, the actual story wouldn't actually feel so rushed, and we wouldn't have had to suffer through Dhawan's only dip in acting quality. I'm not actually bothered about the actual reveal, since it just means more Big Finish stuff, and we all need more Big Finish. Also, we had already been foreshadowed about it... in Morbin' Time.
(do not make me repeat that pun)
Having it be either of them gives them too much power and importance. It makes far more sense for there to have BEEN a timeless child, fine, but have it be neither of them, just some never to be found other person who's hopefully living out their life (lives) on Barcelona The Planet.
The master took the genetic racial memory that presumably ALL Time Lords have about the child, weave it into The Doctor's history with The Division (Chibnall just forgot that the Celestial Intervention Agency was a thing, didn't he?) and turn it into a clever lie. Boom, fixed.
Now, that might be the REAL story. I’ve maintained that we shouldn’t trust hero’s exposition from the villain. We can’t just assume that the Valeyard was the Doctor, nor that the Doctor was the timeless child. The Master being the Timeless Child would check a lot of boxes, for me.
I would 100% replace End of Time with the Moon is an Egg. That episode hurt me.
"Kill the Moon" (the actual title) is one of the few DW episodes I have never rewatched after the first time. It was truly, truly awful.
Would be good if they removed the first 50 minutes of filler...
I unironically stopped watching Dr Who at that point. I was busy besides that, but this episode made me realise I didn't care enough to continue lol. Might jumpt back on now RTD's back.
12 has some great episodes heaven sent is my fav dr who ep oat@@Scaldaver
@@Scaldaver Exactly the same happened to me, but the recent specials prompted me to go back and catch up on the ones I'd missed and to my fairly profound surprise, Capaldi's doc may now be my favourite? Kill the Moon is still brain-meltingly awful, though
I have a personal headcanon about the Timeless Child: The Master is lying. He was there too, so the Matrix may have been tricked into showing HIS backstory. What if HE'S the Timeless Child? It would make more sense and make the Doctor more on line for what we expect.
i mean unfortunately the meeting with tecteun sort of invalidates this theory
Nightmare in Silver is not as bad as everyone says it is. The Doctor playing chess against Mr. Creative is fun
Nightmare in Silver is boring, forgettable and annoying. Much like most of Series 7
The Timeless Children actually committed a cardinal sin of the Doctor: making them a special being. The Time Lord Victorious (Waters of Mars) was part of Ten's god complex which was quickly quashed, whereas the Doctor being some kind of legend was an earned reputation as someone who managed to succeed even in the most dire circumstances. But he was never supposed to be inherently special. Death In Heaven subverted the idea by giving him extreme power, only for him to reveal he was just "an idiot, with a box and a screwdriver, passing through, helping out".
Although there was the Cartmel Masterplan back in the 80s which would ultimately have revealed that he was the Other, one of the semi-legendary founders of Time Lord society alongside Rassilon and Omega.
An important note for love and Monsters, that kid who designed the Absorbaloff? He didn't like the end result, he had envisioned it as a massive monster bigger than a bus, not just Peter kay in a green rubber suit!
I think it also doesn't help the episode that it is naturally held up to the other Doctor-Lite episodes: Blink and Turn Left, and compared to a genuinely chilling horror story debuting one of NuWho's most iconic monsters not to come from Classic, and a haunting What If showing just how much worse off the earth would be without the Doctor, it comes off lacking.
I never felt like the end of the Tennant era was telling us that we should dislike his predecessor. That seems like projection to me. I liked Matt from the moment he stepped on screen, and he ended up being my favorite Doctor of the modern series so far.
The only time I felt like the show ever told us we shouldn't like a Doctor was when Peter regenerated into Colin. Colin's very first scene with Peri is so stand-offish and condescending, it's almost like the show is daring you to dislike the guy.
Colin's Doctor's behaviour towards Peri was understandable, he was suffering from Spectrox Toxaemia which affected his regeneration!
Why would his episode tell us to hate the ninth Doctor?
Love and Monsters may not be the best story and the monster is a wrong decision. Still, I found it a nice heartwarming pace change, and It was interesting to see what a doctor who episode looks like from a regular citizen's perspective.
The monster was invented by a child.
Why does that matter
Its one of my favorite bottle episodes, really enjoyed how out there it was.
I was always curious about the shadow that killed the guys mom. It wasn’t given explanation and it seemed spooky.
I'll just say: I don't think that Love & Monsters is so bad, Abizorbaloff's real body visual is bad.
It comes so close to being a good story... and then suddenly turns into a train wreck.
Yeah I think the idea of an alien that absorbs his victims is actually a really clever idea for a child, it was just poorly executed.
@@CharlotteSunshine94 yes, the worst part was exactly the design of Abizorbaloff and the idea of keeping the face of his victims on his body. That was so unnecessary
I'll always defend that episode - sure it's one of the weaker ones in The 10th Doctor's run, and not the kind of episode we watch Doctor Who for, but it's pretty good still! For what it is, as a one off episode :)
It's a good episode for Jackie, definitely. And the story serves as a clever metaphor for how fandoms arise - and how that can get ruined by "toxic" fans, who 'absorb' the joy away
But then the Absorbalof reveals his true form and the episode completely derails unfortunately, imo. And the pavement slab thing was weird...
Agreed. I like the story overall of the group trying to find he doctor, but the execution of the abizorbaloff was awful. Overall not a horrible episode, but not great either.
Regarding: "In the Forest of the Night", I think the purpose of the episode was to partially focus on what was supposed to be that all the kids on that field trip were all "special needs" and that at that time to now, we are quick to medicate an issue before trying to understand why a person is acting or behaving in a contrary to perceived normalcy. Not encouraging children to stop taking their medication.
But, it's easy to takeoff with a subject in a children's show, like the end problem people can't seem to see in the Pixar/Disney Movie "Inside Out" which teaches kids that running away brings families together resolving a child's problems. No one seems to have seen this issue.
The other focus was that the trees are here to save us so we shouldn't bo so keen to clean sweep the remaining Forrest's because without them we will all die, that the world needs to work on its conservation now more than ever because in reality those trees we genuinely need aren't going to suddenly grow just to save all our sorry destructive asses!
There's also the fact that how comes the Doctor has no knowledge of the planet being helped in this way before? Considering the amount of time that he has spent here in all different eras. This could also be said about Orphan 55, she should already know that is what is going to happen if humanity doesn't stop pollution etc. Its one of my biggest qualms about new who because it more or less makes his past involvement with Earth like it occurred in a different programme...
The moon being an egg ranks pretty high with me.
The engineer in my brain who has a vague understanding of gravity absolutely hates this episode.
I feel so sad for Jodie having Chibnail as writer...
I like how over half the list is 13th episodes. Smh, and you wonder why we all hate Chibel. And why no one I know counts Timeless child as Canon.
Here! Here! Fake #13 is and was total rubbish😝 Jokey Witless was NOT TRUE WHO. Cheers!🍷
@@princeeverlove I wouldnt go that far. I personally think 13 was a really good Doctor. It was just the scripts that were bad. Jodie's acting and performance were great, but even the best characters will fail if the writing is bad
@@willjohnson9667 THIS. I have no problem with #13 in general. The issue for me is it became way too much more ensemble and almost crime procedural feeling. Hard to explain. Just over all a very odd tone. There were a couple of 13s episodes I liked, can't remember which ones, but it was because they felt more "Doctor Who" than "Detective Who Squad". It's a shame Jodi didn't get a chance with more 'classic new who' stories.
The End of Time being "an afterthought" is true, in a book on Russels time on the show he talks about his original finale being very small scale but the beebs told him to make it a big finale event
I think my issue with Clara i think was that I felt too much of the story relied around her when she was a companion. She gets a Tardis. She gets to technically live in a space between time, so she doesn't HAVE to go to Galifrey and die unless she wants to. She gets to travel time and space with an immortal who was also just kinda forgiven for her actions. And she is forever responsible for saving the doctor in any time, as she exists born and aware, in every part of the Doctor's life, even helping him choose his exact Tardis. Jenna is a good actress. I'm just not a huge fan of the characters' plot.
I get that the finale for 10 set up resistance to liking 11. However we were already resistant because of the bait and switch of them dangling David Morrissey as the 'Next Doctor' for 6 months before that Christmas special. He seemed like a cross between 10 and maybe 8, and was an exciting choice. Matt rolling in channeling the Second Doctor felt weird and like a mistake at first (he ofcourse was amazing, but that doesn't speak to preconceived notions).
As for Love and Monsters, it is a product of it's time. A time when we all knew a kid won a contest, and so we all treated it like a picture your kid draws at school in the first grade. We smiled, and put it up on our fridge, uncriticized. Thank god we are so much more cruel and petty now, and can call it like it is.
I liked Love and Monsters, if only because it introduced me to the band ELO. But the episode has a lot more going for it, too.
Finally, someone else who hates Let's Kill Hitler and The End Of Time! But where the heck are Fear Her, and Sleep No More?
The End of Time part 1 and 2 are two of my favourite episodes of Doctor Who. Where has the hate come from? It's not nearly comparable to Let's Kill Hitler, Fear Her and Sleep No More.
@@nathanjordon6950 Well they're right when saying the story went nowhere any time it went near the Vinvocci and the Naismiths. And I think, for those of us who aren't fond of it, RTD's final bits of writing for David were horrible. After he found out he had to save Wilf he threw a childish temper tantrum. Then after he does save him he goes off to "get my reward". I'm sorry, what? No Doctor has ever treated regeneration in such a puerile way before. (Although I'll agree with you about Fear Her and Sleep No More, which are practically legendary regarding just how horrifically bad they are. I have no idea why they aren't on this list!)
Could it be that fear her just wasn’t made for your demographic? They did make that episode for kids
@@loganmorrison3731 From reviews I've read over the years even kids were dead bored out of their minds.
@@ladycplum David Tennant had a long run in the show but in terms of lifespan he only lived for 6 years while all other incarnations lived in the range of hundreds. As well as having a large range of emotions and being regarded as the most human incarnation of the doctor it's really not as "horrible" or unreasonable for him to act that way
actually the end of time was one of my favorite episodes, exactly because the things you mentioned as contra. just that they ruined it afterwards again. and what i mean is the relation between the doctor and the master.
in the predecessor the doctor and the master were shown to share a deep bond that's beyond love and hate. and it felt like the doctors biggest wish was to gain him as a friend. but the master was suddenly not a random villain. he was actually sick.
when he looked into the time vortex he got this weird thing implanted in his head causing him to go completely nuts on something like a bloody rampage
it wasn't only a climax for the doctor, but also for the master. it was a beautiful scene, where all the hatered, all the mental illness that has been forced on him accumulated to his rage unleashing on rassilon, doing the one thing he never could've imagined. saving the life of the doctor who is his arch enemy.
this moment felt like the possibility of the doctor and the master becoming friends becoming real. and in the next seasons i continued to get up my hopes so much, even as there was a slight let-down when missy then appeared, being all destroyed by that horribly whittacker-accident.
when i watch doctor who i feel with the persons inside. and i feel with the doctor. and this is why i don't want him to suffer. i want him to get a friend. a true friend. one that doesn't betray him with his twin. that doesn't dump him because she got something better. that doesn't throw him away just because he couldn't respond to her feelings and, what's more impo^rtant, that can live as long as he does. through all his incarnations. the master would be the perfect companion. those two could be incredibly strong and beautiful. and what's important: happy! and i think the doctor deserves a bit of happyness. not a short moment where he's revising his previous life and reminds the faces from those who left him.
I mean... "Let's Kill Hitler" is for me, one of the best River Song episodes. It's not Flanderization if the first time we see her, she has just left the Singing Towers, after 26 years of "Domestic bliss"
Probably one of my favorite River Song moments it's the one in the episode The pandorica opens part 2 where she's fighting the Dalek and it says she's an ally of the doctor so she will show Mercy and then she says I'm riversong check your database again and then she kills it after it asks for mercy best moment ever Mariah.
Sorry I meant am I right I have autocorrect
@@reneesneed5778 It’s probably one of her top 5 greatest moments! That and “I’m an archaeologist from the future… I dug you up”.
Nightmare in Silver was written as a 2 parter by Gaiman but due to time constraints he was forced to condense it into a single episode. As for Arachnids in the U.K. the story might have worked better if the referenced Metebelis III from Pertwee's Planet of the Spiders.
Nightmare in Silver is a good story, aside from the two irritating kids.
And Mr. Clever would've gotten away with it, too--- if it wasn't for those irritating kids. 😏
(And, of course, the Doctor.)
i actually love Hell Bent, i think it's a perfect conclusion to a companion as important as Clara...
If The Timeless Child has been an original character, now that would have been something that could have also worked.
Just picturing it now:
After finding out that an innocent child from a completely different universe was taken and experimented on by ancient Time Lords, The Doctor would be horrified upon discovering this cruel untold peace of Time Lord history.
Upon defeating the Master, she would then make it her mission to find this innocent child and protect them - or at the very least, make sure they were alright. That whole scenario could lead to so many interesting directions for Who. For the Doctor, for the storylines / arcs overall.
Heck, maybe Series 13 could have leaned into this as well, with it being revealed that the Flux was created by the 'beings' from the Timeless Child's universe, who were seeking retribution for the child's absence. Having only just now discovered what universe they went too. Who were they, why did they want the child back? That too opens so many more doors for far more interesting storylines, instead of the one we got. :(
While I enjoy the channel in general, one thing I've noticed during my time watching content here is that a lot of the topics seem to repeat the same entries to death and often reuse the same words and references. I can't be the only one who notices these things, surely?
It's a good thing we're all different.
I tend to give Arachnids in the UK a passing grade, mainly for the scene at the very end inside the TARDIS.
The End of Time I do think is the best story of the Tennant Specials Year.
And, while I do agree with all the points listed about Nightmare in Silver, it is my guilty pleasure episode for Part 2 of Series 7.
Thank you for your explanation of The Tsuranga Conundrum belonging on this list. I know it’s all in fun and out of love. I TOTALLY agree that the Pting is the only memorable part. But with just a little reflection, my love of the Pting wins out and i still love the episode.
I actually LIKE Nightmare In Silver! Cause I could never stand the Cybus variant of the Cybermen! I've HATED them with a passion since they were first shown in the series! So to have them redesigned in this episode was like a breath of fresh air to me.... Now, if we can have a different variant of the gold and bronze Daleks and have them stick in the series, I'll be one fricken HAPPY Doctor Who fan! I CANNOT stand that look for them! I'd take the new paradigm Daleks or even the earth designed Daleks from Jodie's era over those horrible gold and bronze ones ANY day!!!
I will be controversial but I loved Love & Monsters. Ok it’s a bit daft and it’s not the most credible episode in the shows history but we’ve got to remember, it was the FIRST EVER Doctor-lite episode and that threw viewers off (including me). Also it came after a dark 2-parter with the Satan Pit and was about to hit the finale, so there needed to be a bit of lightness. Also, it was also good to see the doctors world from the eyes of others whether it’s Jackie or Elton’s childhood encounter with the doctor.
In "In the Forest of the Night", I agree with the Doctor. We should listen to what the child is trying to say long before we "shove pills down their throats"... Children sometimes have a hard time expressing themselves but with some help, they learn quite fast. I don't say "Don't give a child their medication at all cost", but sometimes parents do it for their own convenience and not for the child's benefit. And that disgusts me. I don't think you got the right message here... :)
There should be 2 lists.
Hate is a strong word... I don't think we need to "hate" these episodes, just recognise the problems. There were always going to be variations in quality over the years for such a long-running series. I will still enjoy them.
...yep, not a fanatic, prefer the term follower...
Yeah, that was a surprise! On the most hated list are 3 stories with Clara and 3 with the 13th Doctor! 😂😂😂
Now, I would attest that the reason for the Clara episodes being on this list don't really have to do with Clara at all, even though she's a divise Companion to say the least, but the poor quality of the episodes themselves and she just happens to be in them. The fact that there are 3 episodes with 13 is a little harder to explain away since she was even more divise with certain fans. Again, the blame here can be laid more at Chibnall's feet Than Jodi Whitaker, but it just gives fodder to the trolls who didn't like Jodi in the first place to hate on her even more.
Oh well, we'll have to see in 10 years time if there will be any newer future episodes of Who that can knock any of these episodes off this list, though I doubt that The Timeless Children will ever drop out of the top spot simply due to how it tried to mess with the lore and origins of the Doctor itself.
Yeah, I think she could have been a great Doctor but she got saddled with some terrible writing.
There could have easily been three more episodes with the 13th Doctor on this list. That was just a bad time.
As someone who dislikes River, I can agree with Ellie about the backstory. Let’s Kill Hitler is basically her introduction, so of course she’s different than in Silence in the Library.
Timeless Children touched on the Brain of Morbius, where we see other incarnations of the Doctor. It basically just followed that canon. Hartnell is still of the first of THIS version of the Doctor, post mind-wipe. And that’s the most important.
Not only that, there's also the still existing setup of the Cartmel Masterplan in the Seventh Doctor era, hinting that there was much more to the Doctor's past then what we knew. All the evidence was there of past Doctors. Everyone just simply ignored it.
The idea that the Brain Of Morbius was showing different versions of the Doctor has been retconned
Love & monsters was okay for me due to the episode about what happens to people when they've met the doctor. To me I was hoping for a OMG moment at the end like Elton was a time lord or a child of a ex companion. Agree with all of these episodes too
I also like Elton Pope.
You know, it says a lot about the episode when I was shocked when you said “hell bent” thinking it was Heaven Sent because I forgot that one even existed 😂
the worst part of the timeless child is the absolute reversion of a pretty significant theme with the doctor. they arent supposed to be some special chosen one, they are an idiot with a box and a screwdriver who goes around and fixes things. the master should have been the timeless child, it would have given alot of context to why they just cant seem to be a genuinely good person. even when we see missy being probably the least unhinged incarnation shes still noticeably on the crazy side
Hell Bent was great and the people that didn't like it didn't understand Moffat's approach to writing series 9. The Doctor was the villain, and Hell Bent showed us a version of reality where he goes off the deep end to get what he wants.
Exactly...
But did it had to be about Clara though? All the buildup of going back to his lost home, all the suspense regarding the Doctor's past and an mysterious being, just for a latest companion whose popularity and importance wasn't exactly on par with Sarah Jane or Rose.
I think most people understood very well of Moffat's approach, but that didn't make his method more appealing.
God, those kids in Nightmare in Silver were the worst. Best part was the girl shouting "Put me down! I hate you!" to a Cyberman.
Nightmare in Silver is one of my favourite episodes.
Let's Kill Hitler is ok I don't hate it. River song is also one of my favourite characters and Alex Kingston is one of my favourite actresses.
Into the forest could be better some of the children are annoying.
What I don't like about End of Time It's how long it is.
With love and monsters if you pause on the image of the newspaper Saxon lead the pole with 64% that's the first reference to the Masters Saxon.
I was one of those people who did not want to accept eleven. Fortunately however it only took his first episode to convince me that i absolutely adored him and he went on to be one of the best doctors. Eleven making the Atraxi flee in terror simply by telling them who he is one of the best moments of Doctor Who, it was that moment that convinced me he was a worthy successor to ten.
Whoculture can you please do a Top 10 7th Doctor Moments?
I actually liked a lot of the episodes on this list and actually hate many episodes that most of the fandom claim as being the best. I don't know what that says about me but I mostly watch because I enjoy the escape from reality.
If The Timeless Child is not number 1, I'll call bullshit.
I would add "Fugitive of the Judoon", not because it's a bad episode, but because Jo Martin shows us what we could have gotten as the Doctor instead of the plank of wood that was Whittaker.
Bernard Cribbins reduced me to tears.... i cried like ... i don't know what ... after watching his performance, even more than at Oswin's desperation at being trapped in a Darlek. He broke my heart even more
Imo Moffat dropped the ball on End of Time, not RTD. 11 immediately showing off all of his quirks but none of his complexity really sets a bad tone, moreso than 10 reluctantly saying goodbye. All we needed was some kind of transition -- 11 showing any hint of lingering regret before being jolted by the crashing tardis into his new self would have brought out the complexity we eventually get with 11 from the start, and made a lot more people open to him. Instead we get this weird whiplash moment where it feels like you're watching an entirely different show about an entirely different character.
(That being said, while I'm generally a fan of 10's grand finale, my god the way The Master was written and the accompanying cartoony CGI was awful. Love the rest of that episode, constantly cringing at him.)
Sidenote but I do really like 11. I just think he was frequently short shafted by the writing, and his introduction is one of the worst examples of that. Sometimes I get the vibe that Moffat was so focused on River Song that The Doctor was an afterthought. (Love River tho. One of the best characters of all time.)
"In the Forest of the Night" was DEFINITELY a filler episode. Flatline was such an amazing episode beforehand, being a mix of funny and heart-racing. In the Forest of the Night just wasn't it, and was likely just an excuse to show Missy's power or somethin
Love and monsters is one of my favourite episodes, I had no idea it was disliked. It's hilarious and iconic
For me, Love and Monsters was a kind of Scooby-Doo episode. I found it funny. I mean there's a cute guy dancing around his flat to Mr. Blue Sky. To get more British than that, add tea.
Personally nothing to complain about myself here but, wow, this channel really seems to be courting controversy in the past few posts
The tsuranga conundrum has Roy Kent in it too
So funny story about insects and spiders--they do not feel pain the same way we do. So while that large spider might've suffocated to death if it wasn't shot, it actually probably would have been the more peaceful option of the two. The way pain works with spiders is that it is more sensing "I am missing a limb" or things of the sort--lack of oxygen puts them to sleep first and then over a longer period of time (well probably shorter for a large arachnid needing more air) it may then die. That's why researchers can put spiders and flies in the freezer or in CO2 for periods of time without really harming them--they don't feel that suffocation and instead their metabolic rate drops and they go to sleep (well in a way what we'd call sleep).
I'm confused, where does it say that William hartnell isn't still the first doctor. We all know 'The Doctor' is a chosen name, chosen and even given up during the time war. William hartnell can still be the first 'The Doctor' as that was when he originally chose the name. Before that, who knows what their name was, maybe it was 'The Timeless Child'. Flip sake, Steven moffett did an entire series about what the doctors real name is.
And yes, you could argue that the Ruth Doctor was before hartnell but there is no conclusive evidence of that, all we know is that the Ruth Doctor is a previous regeneration. The Doctor could of easily had their memory or part of their memory erased twice. Once before becoming the Doctor, resetting them to be a child and completely erasing everything before hartnell and then a second time, only erasing one regeneration memory, ie the Ruth Doctor, which would be between the 2nd and 3rd doctor. Season 6B anyone?
You should have simply listed most of the episodes with Jodi. Hard to beat those any day.
The timeless child was so confusing. And then they just dropped it. Which is even more frustrating because I wanted clarity on it. But yeah, I feel so bad that Jodie Whitaker is featured in so many of the most hated episodes. They could have done so much for her, she had so much potential. The writing just let her down a little.
The timeless children wasn't a god awful episode. It would be fitting for this backstory to be the master's, but aside from this episode completely rewriting the show's history, there are so many fantastic moments in this episode.
For example, the Master has probably been more of a threat in this entire episode than he was....like ever. He wanted to use the dead corpses of his own species, to create a race of Cybermen that could regenerate!
Secondly, the Cybermen in this episode have a very retro looking design, with the classic looking heads, modern chest plates and some nifty shoulder pads that give the whole look a unique flair. There's also Ashad who is still being his menacing, kick ass self.
Finally, the timeless child element.
I don't care who you are or what you say, but this does not take away anything from William Hartnells time as the doctor. He will forever and always be Doctor number 1 no matter what kind of backstory you throw his way. He is the doctor. "The original, you might say"
Also it finally (kinda) gives an explanation to why the timelords gave 11 an extra regeneration cycle: they did not want him to find out that he was a literal god.
Again, we all have our opinions on this episode, but I would like to bring up the positive stuff that is seemingly neglected whilst talking about this episode.
Besides there are much worse episodes to bitch about, some in this video 😂
I don’t think the Time Lords didn’t want 11 to find out he had infinite regenerations, because he didn’t. The Master told 13 that they limited the amount of regenerations to 12, so when they made the Doctor a regular Time Lord, they also put limitations on his regenerations, making him only have 12 instead of infinite. So William Hartnell was still the 1st Doctor, just the 1st Doctor of the new regeneration cycle, kinda like 12 being the first of his regeneration cycle. It doesn’t take away anything about who the Doctor is, it honesty only adds to it, and it makes sense as to why the Time Lords keep going to them when they’re threatened or the universe needs saving
Edit: I do understand why people hate it, but I just think it’s a pretty cool twist and not awful
I’ll give props where props is due the cybermen look there best he but that’s all I’m giving it the master regressed quite frankly what happened to missy master and how did he come back when he literally killed himself saying he couldn’t regenerate again and biggest threat not really like I would argue that 10th doctors master forget his name think it’s Simon something he was fantastic and was the biggest threat declaring war on the universe with toglaphane and black hole ships then u had missy’s cybermen where she made a never ending army where the more they kill the more they recute and then galifray first why bring it back if your gonna destroy it again there’s no point it could of been so much better used and second are we really gonna pretend that the master could kill all of the time lords yes there not at there peak as in the time war but they are still dam strong such as the tunduscan barrier protecting galifry what happened to that or the gaulent that can kill time lords or any number of things it was so stupid then finally the timeless child I’m not gonna go deep on this for how rubbish it was the worst piece of story writing in all of history as it literally killed and destroyed doctor who before the doctor was an unimpressive time lord very average nothing special who set off to explore helping out whenever he can so much so that his actions and experiences made him the man he is today he wasn’t born to be special or that but now he his basically saying no matter who u are if your not born special then you won’t amount to anything regardless of what you do to me that’s stupid and destroys the very ideal and foundation which doctor who was built on
Huge canon alterations aside I just find TTC kinda boring, lots of exposition delivered in a very standard way. Sacha was wasted too. It had potential though.
@@danthemeegs8751 I'll give you that. Exposition can get stupidly annoying 🤣
i feel like 9 and 10 were the same doctor but then 11 was a completely new character. same with the change from 12 to 13. 11 to 12 wasn't as good as 9 to 10 but felt like the same character. it feels like we have 3 separate doctors.
I couldn't stand Matt Smith originally but he's actually my favourite Doctor and I've been around since the Third Doctor! I really love Nightmare in Silver, apart from the very last line which is disturbing as so unlike the Doctor. I loved the story and Smiths acting was phenomenal which it would have to be to carry off the situation the Doctor was in. The first time I saw Love and Monsters I was just *cringing*, every aspect really jarred with me but then after a few years I saw it twice more. I don't mind it. I saw a compilation video where the creator Loved the episode and we, myself at the time, slated them for it. But we All love different things, we all see the Doctor differently and the Doctor means different things to us all. I wish more would see it that way 😔❤️
Had to Google who the third Dr was, yep, started there meself, love the program, had some moments but, hey, it's t.v., so it's all good. Bring on the 60!😁
I love let's kill hilter I know it's flawed asf but it was kinda cool seeing an unhinged side of river that you don't see often
I feel really bad for 13. She's a great actress but she was given such bologna to work with.
I love Doctor Who and was excited for a female doctor... but I was so disappointed. It took me months to actually get through all of it.
I could see Moffat's intentions for Hell Bent coming a mile off after Face The Raven. He could never let people just die. Remember how many times Rory perished in the show? I imagine he got a bit bored by the end of it!
As it stands, I think there are way worse Moffat episodes that don't appear here. My additional/alternate picks/dishonourable mentions would be Kill The Moon, or "when Dr Who was anti-abortion but in a nonsensical sci-fi way" (before anyone asks, yes I am aware that telescopic pregnancy is a thing), and Dark Water/Death In Heaven. Everything about that two-parter felt like utter contrivance; Danny Pink's death, the reason for his leaving the army, the "don't cremate me" thing going basically nowhere, the half-baked fan service of a "cameo" from Robot Zombie Brigadier, and the literal deus ex machina to bring back the dead child from Danny's past. Capaldi really gave Dr Who his all, but by God the script quality of his era was shockingly inconsistent. Moffat thinks he's so clever but he really isn't (see also: that scene where Sherlock & Irene essentially use magic to figure out someone was killed by a boomerang that literally nobody else knew about because Moffat thinks "deductive reasoning" means pulling the answer out of your arse so there's more room for your head).
You should 100% make a top 10 Doctor Who characters with real superpowers list
I think Jodie Whittaker got the short end of the stick when it came to the writing and never got the chance to truly shine as The Doctor.
Also why wasn't the episode with the space moth hatching out of the moon on this list?
My most hated episode was the Idiot's Lantern. Mainly because of the disappointing villain who was super interesting at first and then only ever said ... HUUUUUNGRYYYY. And even more, because of the diabolical ending. Asking a victim of domestic abuse to "rescue" the abuser, or asking a teenage son to fix the dad .... beyond messed up in my books.
The end of time had a great storyline.
I question your statement that Tennant is the most popular Doctor of all time. Tom Baker is.
Agree, I don't think such a sweeping statement can be made as Tennant clearly has the benefit of time on his side and far too many people who are too young to have seen older Doctors and don't bother to watch it.
So, I agree with most of this list, it's actually pretty well put together. The only one I kinda disagree with is silver nightmare, but then again I'm an old who head and I remember stories about the great cyber war all over the place, and the new cyber men never felt as threatening. Like the cybermen from eathshock were far more terrifying. The concept the cybermen could adapt like they did(once plugged into the doctors mind at least if my destroyed brain is remembering correctly) give more weight to the silly, if still old school, weakness to gold..... I thought they might be trying to establish that there was only one thing they couldn't adapt too and that would be a part of the story. Of course they didn't but I think overall it a better story, not a top story, but not a top ten worst. And while I love the acress for river song I've never liked the character past her first apearance..... please don't hate me
I feel like part of the problem with River is that the pairing with her and 11 is god awful. I can't tell if it's the writing or if Alex and Matt just can't act opposite one another (despite each being great in other contexts). Silence in the Library works so well partly because River plays off 10 amazingly. She also plays well off 12 imo. But when she's in the same room as 11 everything is just tense and awkward.
And of course that's the vast majority of her screentime. I love River but I really wish we'd gotten her story with any other doctor. 11 is just too much of a dorky asexual goofball. Love him, but wayyyyyy wrong vibes for River Song.
(To be clear, I don't just mean the romantic pairing. That's the worst offender, but they don't even have good friendship/companion chemistry. I could get past an awkward romance with an otherwise compelling personality pairing. But they have neither to the point where it can be uncomfortable to watch sometimes.)
Stephen moffat's tenure makes Love and Monsters look like fucking Shakespeare
I actually liked a few of the episodes mentioned: orphan 55, the end of time, love and monsters and nightmare in silver
I always loved 10s tantrum because part of what makes it so painful is that there isn’t even a single moment of hesitation on whether or not he will sacrifice himself for wilf, 10 immediately knows what he will do and so do we. we see him for once let out the emotion he always feels but hides for the sake of others.
I still believe that when Elton was seeing and hearing Ursula in the slab, we were seeing things from His Mental perception.
All the times Without the Recording border is the True perception.
Honestly, I think the idea that the 13 is a control freak would've been a great idea. It would have given us something to latch on to for her character, especially because she was famously underdeveloped in her first series, but there's still the possibility that future doctors could have this trait, so... yeah.
Love and Monsters should have been #2. It was a literal example to everyone of what not to do when writing for Doctor Who. and #1 would simply be "The Chibnall Era" which we all decide never happened, and retconned out of existence like bad fanfiction.
Nightmare in silver was a great episode how could anybody hate it?
I hate how The Tsuranga Conundrum had a fantastic set up for a really good weeping angel episode. Its a claustrophobic environment with nowhere to run from the fastest most malevolent thing in the universe and the doctor is not on her A-game form a serious injury. basically Alien but with a weeping angel
is it just me or does chibnell look like rowland rivron (plays drums for jewls holland)
Great video. Just to add my opinion:
10. I absolutely agree, this episode had the potential to be really great, but falls down the hill pretty quickly. I also hate spiders, so it's very triggering and I probably won't rewatch that episode ever again.
9. I don't agree to this AT ALL. I love Neil Gaiman's style, which is very recognizable and works wonderfully with Doctor Who. True, there's a lot of stuff going on and it could be a little bit much, but I'm okay with that. I love dense plots and I think the passing is on point. Gets you on the edge of your sit the entire time. Besides, Matt Smith is OUTSTANDING on this one.
8. Again, I can't disagree more. Hell Bent is devastating and, to me, the perfect conclusion to Clara and The Doctor's relationship. And yes, I get what you mean, seems a little pointless to spend millions of years grieving just to lose her. But that's a very Doctor thing to do. He sacrifices himself to save her and giving her the chance of a life, of adventure, even if that means he won't see nor remember her ever again.
7. No, how could ANYONE hate this episode? I mean, it's not the best, but c'mon. It's really funny and enjoyable. Helps you understand a whole lot more the story of River and the Doctor. Everything falls in place. AND RORY PUNCHES HITLER ON THE JAW, FFS.
6. Oh, yes, this one was terrible. I might not say is a bad episode, but it's so boring and sloooooooow, I had a hard time watching it. I liked the idea behind it, but the execution just wasn't right.
5. WHAT?! And I know I'm paraphrasing 10th here, but... WHAT?! I don't even know where to start. The End of Time is one of the best episodes of the entire NuWho. It's so action packed, so dramatic, so sad, so emotional, so full of chaos and epicness and iconic moments. David here is ridiculously sublime. Completes 10th' story so well and shatters your heart a thousand times to say the least. The last 15-20 minutes are the most heartbreaking thing I've ever seen on fiction. I literally can't see even a clip from it without feeling a huge lump on my throat and tearing up. I guess the only negative aspect is the CGI which yes, aged quite rubbishly, but I don't really mind and it's not that important. Also I wish to add that I don't think 10th antagonized 11th. It's clear that 10th didn't want to reincarnate because he loved so much who he was and the people he related with. But it's the very thing that he can't escape. He must confront that and accept his time is up (or rather, was taken from him, but you know what I mean). It's not 11th fault, it's just how it is, and it's important they address it in order for us to fully get the nature of the reincarnations. Specially since 9th into 10th's hardly felt as a farewell and David stamped his way into the series, making us fall in love with him almost in an instant. Anyways. Seriously I can't understand how people could hate this episode.
4. Totally agre with this one. They damaged the figure of the Doctor and everything she should stand for. I don't have much to add, it's so rubbish it's not even worth it.
3. Oh, I was waiting for it to appear. This episode is a complete mess. I like the idea of having a full Doctor related story without actually getting the Doctor involved and thanks to this attempt, Blink was possible, so maybe that's the price to pay. But oh god, the ending... *shivers*
2. I didn't even remember this one, that's how bad it is. That's all I have to say.
1. And... Of course. I think this is the episode that made me left the series for good, having me returning to it recently to watch the rest and get ready for the specials and season 14. I really hope T. Davies finds a way around to fix this canonically speaking, because it's a giant screw up.
Right on the money with Let's Kill Hitler. That episode was Moffat at his worst. Too many half baked plot threads, lame twists and reveals with little to no build up, and just that seasons overarching story just bogging down so much of that season.
Feel so bad for Jodie Whittaker they did her so dirty writing wise, basically making what was already a pretty hard job of being the first woman to play the doctor harder by just writing her to be incompetent and needy for no reason
yeah, she had the potential to be a great doctor but the writing just fucked all that up
Now that bigeneration is a thing, the other end of the 6th Doctor trial of a timelord is possible. The Master is present in the form of the Celestial Toymaker's gold tooth. The Valyard is now possible. They can use this opportunity to undo the fever dream of chibnalls destructive run, and make the whole last Doctor's run a glitch in the timelord matrix.
I'm actually surprised there's no mention of "Fear her" or any Mark Gatiss episode !
But overall, i agree with the video. Except for "The end of time". It's not a perfect episode, but it's still better thant the part 1, and it delivers some of the most emotional scenes. Clearly, the 20 last minutes are so ... special to me
I actually really enjoy love and monsters, the absorbaloff to me was quite freaky as a kid, because all it took was one touch and youd get sucked into him.
So the Classic Who serials were all perfect?
Classic will be a separate list!
Nightmare in Silver is one of my favorite episodes because of the Cybermen update since Gaiman was going for a "Mondas meets Cybus and they become one" explanation. You also need to remember that these are the Cybermen at the end of millions of years of evolutions and upgrades, so I can buy them being able to beat laser beams because they are no longer mere Cybermen, they are CyberGODS! I will give you the annoying children though. I also felt no hatred towards Matt Smith since I officially got into the series on Series 5, and then went back and saw the other episodes, so I like Matt Smith more than David Tennant.
Disagree with half of these but that's ok, what isn't ok though is that the 2012(?) Olympic episode in the Tennant era isn't in here.
The 13th Doctor was the dark age of the show.
One thing I absolutely didn't like about The End of Time is that it's without a doubt one of the absolute WORST Master stories in the 60 year run of the show, and that stems almost entirely from poor writing.
The Master is reduced from a scheming Bond Villain mastermind in a nice suit who is constantly 3-4 steps ahead of the Doctor for a significant portion of the story, to an occasionally X-Rayed Hobo who's hungry all the time, repeats himself a lot like a nervous tic, and quite literally lucks into his entire plan, with the Master simply capitalizing on what Naismith had already done and having given his own plan maybe like FIVE MINUTES' CONSIDERATION. It's furthermore never made clear what the Master actually plans to DO after converting mankind into duplicates of himself, because he himself doesn't seem to be thinking that far ahead, and Rassilon hijacks the plot soon after.
The Master is reduced to a hollow shell of the antagonist he was before. Yes he gets a few emotional moments with Ten, but there's little else about his writing in this episode that really would strike anybody as him being "The Master" if the show weren't beating us over the head with his name throughout. He doesn't have the look, the behavior, the intelligence, or even the dour disregard for what he sees as his inferiors. He's a Hungry Hungry Hobo, and he screams a lot. Oh, and he can do Sith Lightning now, because... reasons.
The idea of a Master driven mad by the state of Living Death, and determined to survive at any and all costs, was done MUCH better in "The Deadly Assassin" and "The Keeper of Traken", and there isn't enough time in the story to really narratively focus on his anger at what Gallifrey did to him, because it's only established they did anything to him at all in the second act of the final episode.
It's a real waste of the character, which was a shame because John Simm proved he could stand alongside Delgado and Ainley as one of the best actors to have played the role in any medium in his prior appearance in "The Sound of Drums + Last of the Time Lords". His talents were comparatively useless in End of Time. Fortunately, Steven Moffat gave him a much better final send off with "World Enough and Time + The Doctor Falls", where Simm was able to really shine for one final scheme.
Hell. Bent is one of the best episodes in all of Who; new & classic.
I like Riversong too.....I even have a cat named after her, (Yes it was mostly because we had a Russian Blue named Doctor who...may he rest in peace, I had him since I was 3, so I was really attached when it was time for him to go).
But yeah, my family still loves her of course like all the cats we had, but now she gets to be the old fat and wise cat of the household.
How on Earth are Fear Her and Kill the Moon not on this list?
I stand by the fact that End of Time Part One is goofy and End of Time Part Two is phenomenal.
End of Time is one of my favorite Who stories, but Part One is too long. The Obama subplot goes nowhere except to set up his becoming the Master. Why couldn't they just cut to the White House to reveal the Master as the President?
Why are some of theese some of my fav episodes-
9:27 I wasn’t really into Dr Who and my nephews and brother tried to get me to watch it and Matt Smith’s Doctor actually got me into watching it.
I'd completely forgotten about Orphan 55. I'm one of those people that dropped the show with the whole Timeless child thing. After Capaldi, nothing else is cannon.
Love and monsters is my favourite episode great actors good script and ELO.
Please remake this but add the last 10 minutes of The Giggle.
Love and Monsters was only made cuz the bbc was running out of time on the schedule for filming. Because of this, the episode was filmed at exactly the same time as the impossible planet/ the satan pit hence why the doctor and rose had very little screen time in it.
I did enjoy the episode tbh